Adnan is 100% GUILTY. Use the time and resources for other actual innocent people.
@iboi7440
5 жыл бұрын
There is not enough evidence to say that. Plus Jay is a extremely shady subject. He is untrustworthy. Then there is the tampering of evedence
@melaniegroce4878
4 жыл бұрын
It is so frustrating to see comments about Adnans guilt when there is so much that isn’t told about this case. You need to research more than watching a couple shows or listening to a podcast. I 100% believe Adnan is innocent!
@TheDemiena
4 жыл бұрын
listen to crime junky episode on adnan syed. That changed my mind.
@Roxwins
Жыл бұрын
Where is Sean now? I am curious to know his thoughts.
@MsKeepitReal1
5 жыл бұрын
That man is innocent. Hopefully he gets out soon.
@noahforman3349
5 жыл бұрын
nope.
@TheFaro2011
3 жыл бұрын
I don't fully believe he's guilty but her current bf wasn't investigated. And there were gaps there. However, guilty beyond reasonable doubt through justice system. No way.
@lionelcregut1222
2 жыл бұрын
no way he is innocent
@MsKeepitReal1
2 жыл бұрын
@@lionelcregut1222 he is definitely innocent. They gave him an opportunity to get out if he admitted it and he declined. I think itbwa Jay or the current bf
@lionelcregut1222
2 жыл бұрын
@@MsKeepitReal1 This is called pride...all or nothing...How can he face his family as a guilty man? especially as a muslim...his family would disown him.. he never thought he would get caught....again this doesnt prove anything. What is more likely that Jay did it? why? because Adnan paid him to do it? maybe but then he is still guilty....Not taking the opportunity doesnt mean he is innocent, it is not a proof....
@kevinJmadsen
Жыл бұрын
Next up a champion of "OJ is innocent" and can we really blame Jeffrey Dahmer? He just liked the way people taste!
@Roxwins
Жыл бұрын
If this is your attitude, you really have no understanding of Adnan’s case. Did you watch and really listen to the discussion? I’m also going to guess you don’t have any experience with the criminal justice system. My brother was killed my a reckless driver. The reckless driver hit my brother head on, on the opposite shoulder of the highway from his direction of travel about 100 feet from an intersection, at which the light was red for the reckless driver. The reckless driver was passing another driver in a no passing zone, speeding, crosses 3 lanes of traffic, and hit my brother on the shoulder of the highway. The police spoke to the witness ONE time on the phone over the witness’ lunch break. They didn’t do any toxicology on the reckless driver. The reckless driver fained a language barrier when questioned by the police. The reckless driver was on probation when he killed my brother, but magically the DA’s office didn’t know about his probation at the time he killed my brother, and somehow it also managed to go unnoticed 3 months later when he was finally charged with killing my brother. His charge was only reckless driving resulting in death. The prosecutor told my family this charge was a charge they knew they could win with so they weren’t going to investigate any more details surrounding my brother’s death. The reckless driver failed to appear to a court date and should have been arrested when he showed up for a hearing where the reckless instead of being arrested asked to travel for Thanksgiving and the travel request was granted. The justice system isn’t about justice, it’s about the DA winning and getting re-elected. The police in Adnan’s case fabricated a narrative and built a case the prosecutor could win and cost Adnan his life and the real person responsible is still free.
@kevinJmadsen
Жыл бұрын
@@Roxwins First off, the justice system is fucked up 6 ways from Sunday. Politically appointed Judges, policemen with chips on their shoulders on power trips, politically ambitious DAs, greedy and incompetent lawyers, one system for the wealthy, another for the rest, overworked detectives, public pressures, jurors with no critical thinking skills, racism, on and on. Nevertheless, it doesn't ALWAYS produce injustice. I take interest in selective cases, OJ Simpson (I could probably write a brief summary of the entire case, including all the evidence, even after all these years.) Casey Anthony, Jodi Arias, Gabby Petito, Scott Peterson and several others. I started listening to Serial a few years ago but only got through the first 3 or 4 episodes before Sarah Koenig thoroughly pissed me off with her weak, wishy washy thinking and bullshit attempts to keep people wondering whether Adnan was guilty, just to keep them tuned in. Frankly, I question the critical thinking skills and credulity of anyone who just listened to that pile of bullshit. So I stopped and read all the trial transcripts. There are damn good reasons the jury, the judge and millions of others concluded Adnan is guilty. What has happened now is that an incompetent, lousy, fired and corrupt prosecutor on her way out the door, has attempted to rescue her career by pleasing some large fraction of the 750 million duped podcast listeners, by letting an unremorseful, narcissistic, psychopathic killer free and implying someone else might have killed Hae Min Lee, while simultaneously hiding the evidence that she says might be exculpatory, because "they are under investigation" BULLSHIT!
@Roxwins
Жыл бұрын
@@kevinJmadsen have you read Rabia’s book Adnan’s Story? The trial transcripts you read came from the corrupt system you just outlined. The police decided basically on Jay’s word that Adnan did it and built a narrative around that. They coached and bribed Jay to say what they wanted and ran with that. They didn’t take any forensic evidence from Hae’s body. Police determined she was buried by 7pm, when she was in a state of rigger with her arms in weird positions and blood pooled at the front of her body. This would have only happened after her body was sitting for at least 8 hours. They found her buried on her side with one hand sticking out of the dirt. Despite Jay having all the details he was never charged with any crime and never went to jail. Even though Don, Hea’s current boyfriend, was never a suspect. He claimed to be at work so the police officer called the Lens Crafters to confirm is he was at work. It was confirmed, but his manager was also his Mother. Later they pulled his time card to confirm and the employee number on the card for the day didn’t match his regular employee number. The trial transcripts may make it seem really easy to determine Adnan’s guilt, but the same police officers who investigated Hae’s death have been the investigators in other cases where convictions were overturned because it was determined they planted and tampered with evidence.
@kevinJmadsen
Жыл бұрын
@@Roxwins Rabia Chaudry began with the premise that Adnan was innocent. Every moment and every calorie she has expended on Adnan's behave, and perhaps incidentally her own, is based on that premise. She has no more credibility than the countless millions who thought OJ Simpson was innocent and had to have been framed. Those millions stood in unison and cheered themselves into a frenzy on the day OJ was acquitted. They had good reason to mistrust the justice system that has abused them since they were first enslaved. Nevertheless, the evidence against OJ was monumental and his guilt proven dozens of independent ways. While Adnan doesn't have the mountain of scientific and circumstantial evidence against him that OJ does, it is still convincing, substantial and beyond a reasonable doubt. I don't believe for one nanosecond that the police coached Jay Wilds to say a damn thing. I don't even think that it's possible to coach him. Jay's character, though severely flawed, is not unfamiliar to me. The core issue that Adnan coerced Jay to pick him up to create an alibi at practice, showed Lee's body to him in the trunk, moved Hae's body and car to bury her in Leakin Park, hide her car and remain silent under duress is corroborated and not dismissible. If you are part of Rabia Chaudry's cult of "Adnan is Innocent", which I must suspect, since I doubt non members would read the drivel in her book, then there is likely nothing I can say to dissuade you, such is the nature of a cult.
@lionelcregut1222
6 жыл бұрын
If Adnan didnt kill Hae then Jay did...its as simple as that, however Jay has no motives so i m sorry but Adnan is guilty, too many people play the emotionnal string because they like Adnan, but its all about the facts
@phillipgregory17
6 жыл бұрын
lionel cregut Jay didn't kill hae don did Jay knew don through weed he strangled Her any criminal knew about phone signals in 1999 so knew how to frame adnan and maybe police can look the other way and especially if the don't like Muslim
@MsKeepitReal1
5 жыл бұрын
After listening to Undisclosed, I don't think Jay killed her either.
@kathleenhenderson7987
5 жыл бұрын
Hae’s boyfriend, at the time of her death, was the guilty party. The boyfriend was in the area, but the police never questioned him about what he was doing at the time of Hae’s death. There were many problems and tests not performed at the autopsy and missing test results for the forensic investigation. A drug test was never performed on Hae, nor a rape test done. Those were important missing items.
@ps3862
4 жыл бұрын
@@kathleenhenderson7987 Don had an alibi though during that day. What was reason for Don doing the killing? Jay seems bit gullible, but i got Adnan doing it. Now was the trial fair to Adnan probably not. Should be get another chance i think so.
@Kevincooper220
3 жыл бұрын
You're wrong...Hae's boyfriend's alibi was his mother...Don wasn't investigated
@hibafaisal1377
5 жыл бұрын
If someone believes that he's innocent that's their opinion. Dont tell people what to think. With that said, I think he shouldn't have been convicted!
@owenmclain3327
4 жыл бұрын
Jurors all agreed that Adnan Syed strangled Hae Min Lee dumped her body in Lincoln Park THE END...
@jillianjones6698
2 жыл бұрын
he just got released owen, he didn’t do it😅
@ali1118
Жыл бұрын
So no physical evidence, not even DNA. So you think he did it. Jurors was convinced why Jay put himself in trouble if adnan did it become a accessary. But only reason was other case where he can go jail so save himself.
@beverleylumb8048
3 жыл бұрын
And I wonder how she feels now after doing all that work for years and he didn't take the expected plea deal. I think everyone was so ready to accept it you didn't bother to ask adnan god knows why he wouldn't take it who wouldn't be glad to do just 4 years more he was sentenced to life
@AC-sy8xy
4 жыл бұрын
Inocente
@foofy3406
6 жыл бұрын
i believe he is guilty. this is a farce.
@MsKeepitReal1
5 жыл бұрын
I think he is innocent.
@TheDemiena
4 жыл бұрын
listen to crime junky's episode on Adnan
@lionelcregut1222
2 жыл бұрын
I agree a 100 percent. I think its because there is so much information, people are getting carried away and do not place information in a relevance hierarchy. I am not a detective, can detectives be wrong? sure...does american justice system convict innocent people? sure...if Adnan one of them? not at all....guilty at 100 percent
@jillianjones6698
2 жыл бұрын
well, guess what? you’re wrong, he just got released 😂
@mckernan603
Жыл бұрын
@@jillianjones6698 doesn’t prove it
@tamaraspink4201
5 жыл бұрын
Guilty.
@TheDemiena
4 жыл бұрын
listen to crime junky's episode on Adnan
@jillianjones6698
2 жыл бұрын
he just got released, he didn’t do it
@mohilfc
2 жыл бұрын
🤡
@jillianjones6698
Жыл бұрын
@@mohilfc lmao what a joke
@VioletJoy
Жыл бұрын
@@jillianjones6698 That doesn't mean he didn't do it. Sometimes there just isn't enough hard evidence to get a conviction. There was TONS of evidence though.
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