I always felt the intersection of race and religion specific to African descendant peoples should be examined more especially in regards to Islam and Christianity
@paradisecityX0
4 ай бұрын
Also important to note what Christianity and Islam actually teach, not fixate on what people do in the name of their faith
@Spursfaninthe313
4 ай бұрын
@@paradisecityX0 but how important are the words on the page if nobody is emulating it? What would be the point of the book if people are just to read it and not live as if it isn’t instructions?
@paradisecityX0
4 ай бұрын
@Spursfaninthe313 Still important regardless. The words are timeless. That's why we should encourage Christians to be more Christ-like
@Spursfaninthe313
4 ай бұрын
@@paradisecityX0 exactly or we can choose to adopt something else that we feel is more accurate or at least appealing to us, that’s why there isn’t just 1 spiritual belief in this existence
@paradisecityX0
4 ай бұрын
@@Spursfaninthe313 Christianity is as accurate as a universal belief as you can find. It's made the world a better place even on a secular level. There's various faiths and beliefs because humans are fickle and prone to distortion
@afrinaut3094
4 ай бұрын
I’ve been talking about this for years. But African religions face a level of negative-bias & discrimination that even other racially-colonized peoples such as Native Americans do not experience. Let alone Asian religions miss such wide marginalization entirely. But the intersectionality of race based discrimination and religious discrimination that is at the heart of the exploitation of African people in history, is the main reason for this. Also specific to the Abraham religions, in particular, Islam and Christianity is the belief that if one does not submit to their god (Jesus or Allah), they are destroyed, fits neatly with views and agendas of racial conquest and imperialism. “To save” the savages.
@CampNou1999
4 ай бұрын
Why is your comparison between African religions and Abrahamic religions based on how Abrahamic religions were introduced in Africa? You speak as if African themselves weren't doing any conquering and killing. What does it have to do with the religion they follow?
@afrinaut3094
4 ай бұрын
@@CampNou1999 what you said makes no sense. Africans didn’t invent racism or race-based imperialism. I’m not comparing anything. I’m simply stating why the racialization of Africans into lessor beings by Arabs & Europeans unfortunately fit neatly with the ideals of both Islam & Christian. Racial & religious discrimination. Africans were of a lessor race & religion/culture. Civilize the savage.
@theace3164
4 ай бұрын
@@CampNou1999OP is comparing them because African tradition religions are viewed as demonic on global scale and by Africans themselves
@kiritugeorge4684
4 ай бұрын
@@CampNou1999 Africans had no business with outsiders or conquering them. Even the Kemetic 18th dynasty (under whom empire was literally developed as a template for future powers like the Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians and Greeks) had a fsr higher interest in fellow African states than with the middle east or Europe.
@TheodorictheGoth-cc2jj
4 ай бұрын
Traditional African religions Largely endorse female genital mutilation and Many also Endorse human sacrifice and cannibalism. Don't romanticize traditional African religions. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6334568/ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_sacrifice_in_Uganda#:~:text=When%20a%20child%20is%20sacrificed,discarding%20of%20the%20child's%20body.
@ADAJ3KINGANGEL
4 ай бұрын
As someone who used to be very religious, I understand the emotional, blind faith, cognitive dissonance, & confirmation biases used by many believers. I don’t hold it against them because most of them like me were indoctrinated from a very young age. Also, we have not come up with new institutions in society that bring the same level of community and hope that religion brings to people. We can drop all the knowledge we want, but life is tough and everyone needs to find meaning in it. Religion gives a predetermined meaning.
@theace3164
4 ай бұрын
You nailed it my friend plus I love gospel music 🤣
@JD-ny3vz
4 ай бұрын
Great post i feel the same way
@grapeshot
4 ай бұрын
I got off the religious plantation some time ago and I have absolutely no regrets.
@chibu3212
4 ай бұрын
Just have to get off the race plantation next by deconstructing that also (the concept of “blackness” or race was entirely foreign to indigenous Africans before Western intervention). People of African descent who proclaim to have been free of religious indoctrination should absolutely be at the forefront of race abolition, as it’s a pseudoscience that’s only upheld because of shared experiences/ trauma and the widespread effects of colonialism.
@paradisecityX0
4 ай бұрын
And now you're on the anti-religious plantation. Goo's job
@chibu3212
4 ай бұрын
You should be a race abolitionist too then.
@paradisecityX0
4 ай бұрын
You're still on one, your zeal is just redirected
@paradisecityX0
4 ай бұрын
@chibu3212 Or better yet an abortion abolitionist
@briandyer2090
4 ай бұрын
Religion is all about Keeping you in a submissive naive position in poverty. With songs, prays and delusional hope of glory in a fictional afterlife, while the controllers enjoy everything in real time. Brilliantly Executed for thousands of years in different forms..
@tysolbohan6446
4 ай бұрын
If that was true why did jesus sdk you to call no man king but the father why did jesus actively work agaist every ethical norm of his time why is jesus the only human thematically that is perfect buddha never claimed to be fhe way the truth or the life he never claimed to be perfect muhammad claimed to be perfect but he commited sinful acts im not even getting in to the norse myths or the muths of ancient greece they are all hypocritical basatards
@grandmawisdom421
4 ай бұрын
Very interesting and very REAL today.
@jamaaldaynitelong8367
4 ай бұрын
Because they prostilatize....and the practitioners brought technology, new ideas, and things that natives didn't.....It's an easy win for the outsiders. And probably the most important part was a written text...the written word can outlast most oral traditions 9/10.
@igweogba6774
4 ай бұрын
Writing things down is key. This is where African religions have failed completely
@jamaaldaynitelong8367
4 ай бұрын
@@igweogba6774 I don't know of any written indigenous languages...I wanna say the Ghana crew but offhand I can't think of any other.
@igweogba6774
4 ай бұрын
@@jamaaldaynitelong8367 Actually there are written languages all over Africa but many of them have adopted the Latin script. The problem is that African philosophies, wisdom, technology etc are rarely written down.
@jamaaldaynitelong8367
4 ай бұрын
@@igweogba6774 Give me some names if you know any.
@tojwilliams
3 ай бұрын
True " religion" is not predicated so much on postures, forms and other fashions. It is the understanding that we are all a part of something much greater than ourselves. This is probably the essence of true spiritually.
@jkenneb1
4 ай бұрын
Zeph3:8Therefore wait for Me,” says the Lord, “Until the day I rise up for plunder; My determination is to gather the nations To My assembly of kingdoms, To pour on them My indignation, All My fierce anger; All the earth shall be devoured With the fire of My jealousy. 9“For then I will restore to the peoples a pure language, That they all may call on the name of the Lord, To serve Him with one accord. 10From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia My worshipers, The daughter of My dispersed ones, Shall bring My offering. 11In that day you shall not be shamed for any of your deeds
@knotzed
4 ай бұрын
What about Ethiopia the jews and Christians there?
@ultramaleX
4 ай бұрын
I believe there's only one creator and we can never fully comprehend him. Religions come and go but truth stays constant. I have examined all these questions and I am wholly at peace with my relationship with God.
@KevinAPTTMH7
3 ай бұрын
I believe there is some way to comprehend the Creator, but one must be in nature and understand their purpose.
@yannickbaroue
4 ай бұрын
As a European with Celtic and Roman ancestors, I always wondered why we accepted a religion from outside Europe like Christianism instead of Pagan European religions. I wonder why African people accepted outsiders religions like Islam and Christianism when so many local religions existed...
@savinggift158
4 ай бұрын
You know that Israel is in north east Africa and that the Ethiopian people are among the oldest Christian’s?
@Larry_Suave
4 ай бұрын
Because the Abrahamic religions were more compatible with European society. Christianity was an organized religion, and Europe had become highly organized in their societal and social structures. It also offered a moral template that made sense to people in a way that the old pagan religions no longer did. Christianity molded perfectly with feudalism.
@amictrl
2 ай бұрын
A religion isn’t restricted to one area this argument is dumb asf Christianity and Islam are for everyone , you decide based on your heart not your ancestry why would I be forced to follow the religion of my ancestors if it doesn’t make sense ?
@Commandosoap777
Ай бұрын
@@savinggift158no he wouldn’t because he doesn’t think for himself. I like this channel don’t get me wrong but there is a lot of opinion and a shortage of citations in their videos
@rhinochino
4 ай бұрын
This brother is very articulate and present good challenging content. Thank you
@ADMusic1999
4 ай бұрын
I look at how people see and read about events happening today and come up with vastly different interpretations of the same event, so of course, reading about something that happened thousands of years ago and trying to get the “right” interpretation is difficult. That’s why I try to read the Bible with an open mind and don’t try to analyze it from my own political, social, or cultural beliefs. When I do that, I realize that none of the hardcore modern ideologies really align with what the Bible says. We’ve all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and the sooner we realize that, the better off we’ll be.
@marvelouslukpata5345
4 ай бұрын
Ds man content always hits me everytime
@rhinochino
4 ай бұрын
Good video! Thank you, blessed brother.
@MarkoMKZ
4 ай бұрын
This content is radically necessary, informative, and interesting asf!!
@quelnariemrah5624
4 ай бұрын
I believe that we as a people need to have a better historical understanding of any religion we choose to follow. My meaning is that we need to know and understand the people and context in which the religion was created. There is also a need to expand our worldview beyond our personal societal norms. I have studied most of the Abrahamic books (not claiming full understanding) and have increased my knowledge of indigenous belief systems from other places. My personal belief is that all religions stem from the same source material, expressed in different ways due to the people, climate, and period they lived. The source material, as with humankind, stems from Africa.
@gardeniainbloom812
4 ай бұрын
Pre-colonial African spiritual traditions.
@kaylean39
4 ай бұрын
Israel and Judah are who and what they have always been. I’m of the unpopular belief that had we lived truly biblically we’d be in a different place in the world. A lot of what preachers teach isn’t biblical. We’re not to be impoverished, borrowers, and live in fear. We should be leaving inheritances to our children’s, children. We should be courageous, and not back down to anyone. When the Bible says turn the other cheek or to have grace and mercy, that’s only for other Israelites. I’ve yet to see in the Bible where it says to spare your enemies. Which that would be a whole different video on why black preachers don’t teach on the Old Testament and still in a way preach from the “slave Bible”.
@shanevan1
4 ай бұрын
6:00 is a perfect summary of this video. The OP hasn't read up enough on all the Abrahamic religion, thus is not able to distinguish the WILDlY different views on race, social justice, sexism, classism, pedofilia, chattel slavery etc. The mere claim to Abraham's God doesn't say much. Also, the treatment of Africans as a result of being faithful to the religious texts and following the prime example to follow vs a result of contradicting the religious text and prime example to follow is a big factor to consider.
@MrMetro-mt5qv
4 ай бұрын
Atheists, stand up!
@paradisecityX0
4 ай бұрын
They already did several times. Revolutionary France, Soviet Russia, Khmer Rouge Cambodia, Maoist China and N Korea happened as a result
@TrillVilla5
4 ай бұрын
@@paradisecityX0The winner tells the story of those who lose.
@gastonneal724
4 ай бұрын
Since we have no physical proof, religion should be used as a moral code. I agree with the Law that Musa bought. If you read it, most Laws are understandable, and very just. After reading Beyond Good and Evil by Neitzche, Huey,, Plato, Garvey, WEB, I landed on that. Without the argument of an invisible “God”.
@paradisecityX0
4 ай бұрын
@@gastonneal724 l recommend reading Five Proofs For The Existence Of God by Ed Feser
@TrillVilla5
4 ай бұрын
@@gastonneal724 It is but isn’t. The physical comes in signs and the invisible comes from within.
@sipp5657
4 ай бұрын
Africa and the Abrahamic religions is a contentious topic but I'd argue has been overall good
@gardeniainbloom812
4 ай бұрын
It's not enough that we interpret the texts for ourselves. We need a set of beliefs/standard/worldview by which to measure all ideas. I'm finding Dr Marimba Ani's ideas useful in that regard.
@gastonneal724
4 ай бұрын
I do like the stories though, esp. when Musa came to Kemet with the staff. And started doing “magic”(could be called science). The priests from Kemet could do some of the same “magic”. I think Abraham’s priest was African. Nimrod the mighty hunter was African. AfroAsiatic people, we used to look the same. Sampson 7 lox, Samuel had lox, Nazarites wore lox. If you believe Revelations(just the Torah for me) hair like wool, feet like copper. No one is black. We are brown peoples, well most of us(on Earth). We are African. They just made “white” Africans a law here, on the census. Pay attention brothers and sisters.
@Outofmemory5142
4 ай бұрын
Stumbled across your content, Keep up the good work.
@sincerelythewolf1671
4 ай бұрын
I am a rootworker and a Christian but I'm not a go to church and let them give me their version christain. Nor am I a turn the other cheek christian. I am more of a flip the table and demand justice christian 🤷🏽♀️. I study the history along with the text. We break things down and go down religious rabbit holes to gain a deeper understandings. Compare the stories to those of much older religions. The Ethiopian Bible contains the most books so I like that one better. Also the apocryphas. What you find by studying multiple religions is its all the same God. The prophets are different. All have been corrupted and used to the benefit of man. And it gets deep when you really pay attention to mistranslations and missing text. Like everyone knows Satan supposedly fell for a disagreement with God but how many people know what he disagreed about? Jesus being sent to die on the cross for our sins. That was the disagreement. Because God is the father of all angels including lucifer. He disagreed his brother be martyred for humans to erase our sins. Instead he believed we should not have the ability to sin and his brother not have to live and die in such a way. The arch has a large amount of radiation in it which is why Aaron had to wear specific armor which covered his chest and Groin. There's so much more there than just the words. It's interesting if nothing else. It's definable been white washed af.
@harrisbrownnurses
3 ай бұрын
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@chris10hi
2 ай бұрын
I have never seen any group focused on race as Blacks, sometimes that is all they talk about.
@rafiqjennings5262
4 ай бұрын
The key thing about the Abraham religions is that they come from the Middle Eastern region from a Semitic peoples. They are neither European nor African. Yes, they been efforts to make them European white or African black, but the origins will always be Semitic from the Middle eastern/West Asian region, and they are a different peoples with a different cultures. On the curse of Ham which was placed on his son Canaan… in a KZitem video entitled “Atheist presses rabbi Tovia Singer and eye-opening Bible interview”, Rabbi Tovia Singer explains the true meaning of the curse of Ham within the context of the Hebrew language the Old Testament was written on. There are 2 different words in the Torah that both translate to curse, but have 2 entirely different meanings. So instead of relying on King James, the new international version of whatever English verse Bible, we read, look at what the original Hebrew says and learn what it’s means. So instead of constantly harping about the curse of Ham that both Christians and Muslims have used to justify the African slave trade, just get the original Hebrew meaning and let it go! And the Talmud is a difficult read that takes of devoted Jew about 7.5 years to fully read and understand. Is best to discuss that with a competent Rabbi as opposed to rely on what the sources say, especially those of the Christian anti-Semitic kind. Now all this is not to say don’t engage in any of the Abraham religions, just know - fully know what you’re getting into. Judaism of the orthodox kind is as close as you going to get to the original of the Abraham faiths, but Christianity and Islam does derive the same universal moral codes from Judaism. It’s just with the latter two religions, it’s a numbers game - in having to have converts where in Judaism, there is no need to convert. And of course, people should apply rationale thinking to any religious belief day come across. But a lot of times it is about feeling and believing, not critiquing - and in the past, violence was used to make a people converting believe. That can’t be ignored either.
@idontknowname-rl8yb
4 ай бұрын
Lies . We Ethiopian thought Moses
@rafiqjennings5262
4 ай бұрын
@@idontknowname-rl8yb I don’t understand what you mean by “Ethiopia thought Moses”. It’s said that Moses had an Ethiopian wife named Zipporah and that’s really it, aside from the story of queen of Sheba, and of course, the kingdoms of Kush and Nubia being referenced in biblical texts. But Ethiopia is an outlier. Aside from never being colonized, Ethiopia is situated near the Middle Eastern region to where it had access to the Abrahamic religions (to creating their unique Ethiopian Orthodox Christianity). Generally speaking, northern Africa was conquered by Islamic empires and was forced to accept Islam by the sword. The rest of Africa, excluding Liberia and Countries that became protectorates like Botswana, were colonized and got Christianity via colonization. Ethiopia is not the entire continent of Africa.
@rafiqjennings5262
4 ай бұрын
@@ubiss8487 Yes, the curse of Ham is not in the Quran and what the prophet Muhammad said about humanity is also true. However, what was written in paper was not practiced in real life. The curse of Ham is an import to Islam via "Isra'iliyyat" to where some Muslim writers used it to justify the African slave trade. And the Islamic world didn’t just enslave Africans, it enslaved everybody.
@taginefc3189
4 ай бұрын
The thumbnail is soooooo true!!!
@Exxperiment626
4 ай бұрын
Semitic mythology has no place in Africa.
@truthhurts6327
4 ай бұрын
💯💯
@einhutch26
4 ай бұрын
It's based in Africa. Have you read it
@chibu3212
4 ай бұрын
Neither does Eurocentric race or any other concept not originated from Africa
@thevisitor1012
4 ай бұрын
You do realize that the Semitic language is an Afro-Asiatic branch? Meaning that Immigrants from Africa traveled to Asia and brought their language and culture there.
@nirbija
4 ай бұрын
"has no place in" the world of humans.
@kaylean39
4 ай бұрын
Great video
@MarcusMartin-x7y
4 ай бұрын
Caribbean Flavor
@mr.e212
4 ай бұрын
Missed your videos
@sollymadeit
4 ай бұрын
💙💙💙
@jkenneb1
4 ай бұрын
Always great content you provide information to educate us and allow us to make the conscious decisions ourselves! I would love for you to dive deeper into the moral similarities to the Abrahamic religions that were already apart of African culture! Hebrew cultural practices within the text is what distinguished them from other nations! The European nations are gentiles their cultural practices were even worst before their conversion!
@blackdreamhunk3413
4 ай бұрын
We are not leading on this topic because other races delete what black people like my self have to say about the topic because skin color matters.
@Xfcf-b1n
4 ай бұрын
🙏🏽
@truthkindahurtsloveyalltho6272
16 күн бұрын
I find it interesting how black people love abrahamic religions but we didnt call in allah jesus muhammed or any of them to save us from slavery. Actually almost all the successful rebellions were started with our traditional religions.....so, why?
@LeviteGitere-zo8mk
4 ай бұрын
Hi
@deed5049
4 ай бұрын
Salubrious
@sableindian
4 ай бұрын
All Jews do not follow the Talmud. All Jews did not go to Babylon. The Farsees or Pharisees brought their own beliefs when Israel was resettled. Those with this belief are the Ashkenazim today.
@kiritugeorge4684
4 ай бұрын
The bible is a rip off of Kemetic cosmology, Jesus is a parody of Horus and the greeks plagiarised Kemetic philosophy.
@tysolbohan6446
4 ай бұрын
Absolutely not Jesus was the logos made flesh he was the divine word of god the generative rationality of the world made manifested into the world Horus set and kemetic philiophy leads to summoning demons in fact its actually been shown that the temple of set is heavily correlated with satanic imagery there is a reason yahwrh find ancient egeypt disgusting it isnt what you think it is ancient egeypt was a heirachal society where the elites worshipped the morning star and sacrificed humans in blood sacrifice rituals and orgies the elites though cover it up. Who are the elites ? The cultists who tap into this demonic realm do not be fooled by the current pagan psyop reaching society
@gastonneal724
4 ай бұрын
There also Laws on how you treat a “slave”. Yacob was slave, for his wives,father, plus you get compensated. Basically you are contracted, usually for a Jubilee, 6 years. I call that job security 😂😂. If you know the Law, it is about Justice. That is the focus, it’s mathematical, and boy we are too. Dr. Emeagwali, Dorothy Vaughan, Thomas Fuller, the Ishango bone, Benjamin Banneker (super underrated).
@itsbeyondme5560
4 ай бұрын
Rid of religion. We are going backwards, Africa
@CampNou1999
4 ай бұрын
I think the title of the video already shows that your analysis is gonna go in the wrong direction. People can't have relationship with religions. They have relationships with other people. Africa was affected by other people who happened to be following different religions. Doesn't mean the "problem" was in fact those religions.
@nirbija
4 ай бұрын
You were doing well, until your last (invaders are bad -- religions are good) sentence! lol In addition to the "problem" with the evil invaders, criminal colonizers, kidnappers, enslavers and sex-enslavers, the "problem" IS ALSO "with those" foreign and mind-weakening and mind-wasting religious rubbish! Does it happen in your special world that invaders and colonizers and enslavers bring enlightening ideas and practices TO THEIR VICTIMS? lol No one, and for sure not enemies, impose anything good upon another: The FOREIGN religious rubbish WAS IMPOSED in African lineages. And as it is the case with a mental virus without immediate cure, way too many Africans are having "problem" finding cure for the foreign and imposed religious rubbish of the invaders, colonizers, etc ..... ENEMIES of Africans!
@LeviteGitere-zo8mk
4 ай бұрын
First
@gastonneal724
4 ай бұрын
When the Israelites left out of Kemet, some Kemetic people went with them. Musa was an Kemetic Prince. Joseph was two tribes by an Kemetic wife. Juda’s lineage was first propelled by Cannanite wife. Again with Sheba. Ethiopians have a strong claim. Abraham’s first child by a Kemetic woman. Still I just use it as a moral compass. Eye for an eye, tooth for tooth. You owe what you took, nothing more, nothing less.
@astersdixon3142
4 ай бұрын
You could NEVER be a dead beat Son, only dead beat daddies who live in and out of the house! You owe him nothing but honor and respect according to God’s Commandment that your days may be long on the earth!
@Spursfaninthe313
4 ай бұрын
I hear you but none of us asked to be here. and some people live through so much trauma and abuse, not to mention because we are born of flesh we’re doomed to death off rip. Does that deserve honor and respect? I’m honestly asking not trying to be disruptive
@kevinleonardo2063
4 ай бұрын
@Spursfaninthe313 I agree. It's hard to respect someone you don't understand. From my experience, I had to learn that my parents are just regular people. Holding on to their short comings was hurting me more than anyone. You see it in other people with unresolved mommy or daddy issues. It's hard to see it in ourselves because of the emotions we feel from it. I learned that to understand someone is to truly love someone. You can love, honor, & respect someone, while at the same time knowing their are boundaries & a certain amount of distance to keep when you understand who they are & why. That's what helped me. Hope it helps you as well.
@Spursfaninthe313
4 ай бұрын
@@kevinleonardo2063 my spirit animal!!! 2 of my friends just cut me off because we had a discussion and one of them felt I’m always trying to be right. I told him no I just don’t want to be misunderstood so I explain thoroughly why I think the way I think. I told them to love me is to understand me I speak to be understood because that’s how you get to know me.
@kevinleonardo2063
4 ай бұрын
@@Spursfaninthe313 100%. I had to start asking myself if what I'm going to say is even worth saying. And ultimately come to terms with the fact that some people just won't understand me, and it may not be they're place to. I mean if you really think about it, being understood by other people is not a God given right. Even Jesus wasn't always understood. According to the Bible, some people apparently did not understand him at all 😂.
@paradisecityX0
4 ай бұрын
Christian is objectively the best thing that ever happened to the world. Islam, not so much (not much at all, really)
@valdu5899
4 ай бұрын
Thanks for missing the point of the entire video lol
@paradisecityX0
4 ай бұрын
@valdu5899 Just stating a fact lol
@flyingspacerock8968
4 ай бұрын
@@paradisecityX0 that is a FLAWED opinion.
@paradisecityX0
4 ай бұрын
@@flyingspacerock8968 It's a FACTUAL opinion. I recommend reading "Dominion" by Tom Holland if you'd like to know the complexity into how
@ADAJ3KINGANGEL
4 ай бұрын
This is a historically inaccurate take. Early muslims focused on mathematically/scientific, hence where we get the terms for Algebra and the stars in our solar system. Both Christianity and Islam have been used to do unspeakable damage to nonbelievers, so I don’t see how Christianity is objectively the best thing ever. The people who gave Christianity to black people didn’t even believe black people could be righteous or go to heaven.
@idontknowname-rl8yb
4 ай бұрын
We Ethiopian been Christians before Christ came before two thousand years ago. Read the first book of adam and eve. Also the fifty spiritual homilies of saint mercurius. We Ethiopian know the truth. It is the Ethiopian wife father who tough moses about god
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