Hierarchy systems that are based on something other than merit are problematic in any country. While I personally think the over-emphasis on age and wealth in determining status in Korea is a negative thing, it's up to Koreans, not foreigners, to decide if they want that in their culture. I have often felt uncomfortable about the deference my Korean friends give to my words (I'm considerably older than everyone).
@Grams1942
2 жыл бұрын
Wisdom should be the determining factor and not age. I know a lot of people who are much older but are of no value when it comes to giving advice or anything else, as a matter of fact, to the younger generation. Also, respect is earned and not delved out like candy. Parents who have not taken care of their children or grossly abused and neglected them don’t deserve the respect just because they are parents! Their is so much wrong with that system that the few examples I have given doesn’t even start to cover the absurdity of the system. The good news is that 75 % of the Korean people realize this and want to change it! Shows us that a large percentage of the country is intelligent! The others are grasping at something they don’t deserve but want anyway! I hope it changes for the intelligent majority.
@leamubiu
2 жыл бұрын
@@Grams1942 Abolishing the Korean age system will not abolish the Korean age hierarchy. They will simply be (and they already are) using the more accurate international age, but even with no way of telling the precise age of someone there will always be an age-related hierarchy. In France we never really ask anyone’s age, but there are many more social cues that determine the pecking order, and age factors in. Here is something to consider: meritocracy is a sham, and nobody has time to read the resume of everyone they meet. Hierarchy is mostly based on shorthands. Even a gold medal is a shorthand, and most people cannot tell a real one from a fake, or care to. I also like to think of respect as coming with two facets: one is genuine, the other is performative, both are useful. Hierarchy is mostly performative, it’s a social lubricant, thus people don’t waste their time competing and proving themselves at every turn. We only demand and feel genuine respect for the really important stuff. I know it’s very frustrating and damaging to be stuck under the foot of incompetent seniors or bad parents, but respectful acknowledgement of seniority isn’t the problem. Only corruption, cowardice, and lack of resources (to help victims) are to blame.
@tibowmew
2 жыл бұрын
I find the biggest problem with Korean age is in teaching in schools. A child who is actually 10 in international age may be put in the same class as a kid who's 12, but because in Korean age they are the same, they have the same expectations put on them, despite being at different points in development. Sometimes this leads to moments where other students will naturally help or look out for the younger students, and yes, this can be very sweet. But in many cases, I watch those students struggle more than their peers and develop insecurities or self-confidence problems if they can't keep up.
@minstorm
2 жыл бұрын
So in your country people born late in the year is not together with those who are born early? I think in most countries the full 12 months get put together in the same class. So I don't understand what you believe the difference is.
@tibowmew
2 жыл бұрын
@@minstorm There is a cut-off point. Kids born after a certain time of the year are pushed back a grade because they're so many months younger.
@minstorm
2 жыл бұрын
@@tibowmew But then they are together with those born early in the next year so it's still up to 12 month difference? Wherever the cutoff point is doesn't matter. Only if the years are divided with different starts for different ages(months) it matters. If there is only one start each year then there will be the same regardless of system.
@fransmith3255
2 жыл бұрын
@@minstorm True. :-) But I think the western system is a little more flexible. I'm Australian, so other countries might be different. There are limits, but there is flexibility. Age differences in a grade might be more than a year apart for various reasons. Parents can often choose whether their children start school this year or next year, for example. I was born in December, for example. My parents could have had me start school in the same year as other children born in that year, or one year later. They chose one year later because I was born with some medical problems and so developed some skills later. That meant that when I started school I was very ready for school - I could speak well, count, write a little and had an extra year's maturity. I did well at school, but I might not have had I started the year before. My brother was born in February - he was not born with medical problems, so he started with his peers and did well at school too. Some kids are ready to start school at 5 1/2 years old (Australian average school starting age), others are not. Parents, often with the advice of teachers and professionals and friends with children, can observe their children's maturity and compare it with other children of the same age, and choose whether they are ready to start school or not (ready means mental and psychological maturity to communicate and socialise with other children (perhaps the most important thing), motor skills (running/holding a pencil to write), language and listening skills (very important!), etc. The other thing is that we sometimes make our children repeat a grade if they don't do well. This is almost always done for the first grade, rarely afterwards because there is also damage to self esteem if it is later. This decision is taken carefully, and usually takes into account a child's maturity compared to their peers, as well as other things. Often a child who doesn't do well is also less mature than their peers. That kind of child we would often hold back to repeat a grade. But a child who struggles with school work, but has good maturity compared to their peers we might not. Children's personality is also considered. Will the child benefit from being held back? Will their self-esteem suffer too much? Do they have strong friendships in their current grade that they will miss? Often immature children don't make friends well, and so would benefit from repeating a year and thus making new friends with children more their mental age. And parents have to agree. These are teacher suggestions only. Parents get the final decision. This isn't a criticism of Korea - just an observation - I realise that age is a very important part of Korean culture, so starting school together with your age group is very important in Korea. I also teach in Korea (although, I'm also a qualified University educated teacher in Australia with a dip.ed, too - not just a 워나민), and I've taught children in Korea who definitely would have done better starting school a year later. I write this only to explain the difference in our systems a little. Not to criticise in any way. Culture is important. And Korean culture is beautiful in many ways. :-))
@marialuisaachille9608
2 жыл бұрын
@@minstorm 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@aprilknutson2809
2 жыл бұрын
I understand that Korean age is tied to learning the language and formalities, but I’ve seen it get in the way in many situations. For example, in sports. Younger kids won’t tryout or play on teams with older kids. It’s awkward for both sides. Also, older coworkers make all the decisions and younger coworkers have to just go with it. Despite the fact that they’re paid the same and do the same job. Her: “Is it possible to stick to just one formality level with everyone? Probably not.” Me: Um…other languages do…
@SnackyKorea
2 жыл бұрын
that's pretty true, it has been a negative culture in korea for a long time so nowadays sometimes it comes reversed. like younger people neglecting or refuting against older people. they have the words like "꼰대"(old fools), "틀딱"(every word they say sounds like clenching of their artificial teeth). since they already have victim mentality, they have negative attitude to listen to older people. it all is because of Korean hierarchy, formality level system. everything has pros and cons but it has too much side effects for its merits it seems.
@denisethegood
2 жыл бұрын
The software used in our medical system here in Turkey might be Korean; whenever you get a report/test printed, your age is written on top and it is indeed one’s Korean age. Young people love it, everyone over the age of 30 hates it! 🤣
@Andymegaara
2 жыл бұрын
I think a possible solution for using international age would be this: If two people are chronologically less than a year apart in age, then they should be considered to be the same age, no matter if their international age is different at some points (like one being 27 years old and the other 28 years old, but their actual age is just four months apart). And if someone is chronologically a year or more older or younger than you, then you are not considered to be the same age.
@anamazariegos1358
2 жыл бұрын
I’m about to move to Korea for 2-3 years, and I would really love to learn the dos and donts as a foreigner.
@DaniaRohena
2 жыл бұрын
I would love my daughter to have this experience. She's only 7 now but planning for the future. We're both learning Korean now. Are you going as an international student or to work?
@anamazariegos1358
2 жыл бұрын
@@DaniaRohena work mama!
@weakanklesfornamjoon
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you also to the commenters for teaching me much more than I knew before. All the respectful perspectives give a lot to consider. 고마워요.
@pro5skate08
2 жыл бұрын
I was watching the latest episode of Running Man and they were discussing about voting for the ruling or opposing party for the presidential elections so I got curious how elections happen in Korea. In my country, citizens vote for the president down to the lowest positions every six years (with the lower positions actually every 3 years). How come this time you're only voting for the president and what's with only choosing between the two parties mentioned? Haha sorry if this is a too complicated topic for a TTMIK video 😅
@ainvip5ever285
2 жыл бұрын
Based on what I know, presidential election in South Korea happens once in 5 years, like the still current one is the President Moon Jae-in who took the position on May 10, 2017, so as now in 2022 where 5 years has passed, a new presidential election took place on March 9, 2022 as scheduled (fyi also, early voting also started since a few days before the polling day). And about the political parties in SK, it's generally understood as there are 2 blocs of political parties in SK, the ruling one and the opposition ones. The ruling/left wing one, currently is Democratic Party of Korea (더불어민주당), and actually there are many other political parties that are considered as in the opposition bloc/right wing (the main, current opposition party is currently named as People Power Party/국민의힘), despite political agenda of every of the parties may be different from each other, so there isn't just 2 parties in SK. So, for this new election, by now, there were 2 main presidential candidates: Lee Jae-myung (Democratic Party of Korea), Yoon Seok-yeol (People Power Party), and there are many more candidates, as much as 14 candidates from different political parties. One of them (Ahn Cheol-soo from People Party/국민의당, one of small opposition parties in SK) retracted from competing and instead, has supported for Yoon Seok-yeol. Anyway, as I explained before that most of the time, the two parties (Democratic Party and People Power Party) are the political parties that SK people are focusing on. Update (1): Yoon Seok-yeol won this presidential election with close difference of votes over Lee Jae-myung. So SK now has new president to be elected. Update (2): I watched a short on Mykoreandic channel about a skit that's closely related to this TTMIK video above - The new president-elected Yoon Seok-yeol has promised to change the Korean age system to international age system. This is just what I know so far, need to find more information about it first. If anyone knows any more information, let's share and discuss about it together.
@randi4321
2 жыл бұрын
I would also love a video on this topic!
@lingxihu2428
Жыл бұрын
I am Chinese and I come from Jiangsu. We are still using this system a lot. I don't think it's ever officially "abolished", it's just there is a regional difference in using it. As far as I know, people in my region (south-east China) are quite used to adding 1 or 2 years on our international age, while northern ppl do it less often.
@ChannelBCD
2 жыл бұрын
Yeji maam's pronounciation ❤️
@anonnnymousthegreat
2 жыл бұрын
American here: In america, i know if someone isn’t more than atleast 5yrs older than you, you just call them by their first name. So growing up, if they were atleast 5yrs older, i always put; “ms/misses/mrs./mr.” in front of the person’s first or last name depending on the relationship between us. So if the person was an authoritative figure (teacher, boss, etc…) i would call them “Mr. [person’s last name]”. Now if there were someone like a family friend or someone who doesn’t mind being called by their first name, i would call them, “Mr. [person’s first name]”. And if it was someone who was a friend but someone to be respected like and authoritative figure like an elder, it would depend on who it is and what they are comfortable with. Whether it be their first name, last name or a nickname.
@tedcrowley6080
2 жыл бұрын
China uses a similar system. Whenever someone is asked their age, they say "this year I am 23" (今年23 岁)or "I was born in 1998". There is no age change on the birthday, as far as I can tell. But this video explains the system very clearly to westerners, including explaining the benefits of this system. Thank you.
@anonnnymousthegreat
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t americans reply the same way pretty much. Like if someone was born in September of 1990, they would reply, “i’m 31, but will be 32 in September”.
@servantrose
2 жыл бұрын
@@anonnnymousthegreat no, not usually. Even when talking age, people don't tend to state their birthdate unless asked. And in general, people don't ask or talk about their age. There's little cultural reference besides the fact that no one likes to think about how old they are once they are about 25 hahaha
@ABcdefgI143
2 жыл бұрын
uhh no?? Chinese people abolished it decades ago. The "this year" is either a filler word (i.e. Haven't passed my 24th birthday yet, so 23) or simply how many years you *have* experienced (i.e. 2022-1998 = 24). It's pretty different from how many years you *are* experiencing, (i.e. 2022-1998+1 = 25) in Korea
@yuyuxyu
2 жыл бұрын
I'm a west Asian and I never heard of if my Korean friends once mentioned it and now I'm obsessed with it
@b_bread13
2 жыл бұрын
Me : Korean Born : July in 1998 Korean age : 25 International ag : 23 ( i ll be 24 as soon as gone my birthday) My counties counting system is weird , i admit also , So , dear foreigers! If you encount to circumstance to show your age to koreans , but you dont know how old i am ? THEN , just tell i was born in Xxxx Year ( for example : 1998 , 2003 , 2005 like this ) i think it will be simple way to let them know your age clearly :3
@kimnoir
2 жыл бұрын
It would be really helpful if you covered a few to many polite and/or formal versions of nouns and adjectives in Korean.
@PaulCHa
2 жыл бұрын
I’m Korean American and I always thought the Korean age system was unnecessary. Calculating age is always arbitrary whether it’s the Korean system or the rest of the world system. I don’t think it will impact Korean culture much at all if it’s gone.
@annas9016
2 жыл бұрын
I personally like Korean age, but really only because of the aging on new years thing. I think it's really cool to face the new year being a different age because then it feels like there has been more of a transition since the last year. Also, it helps that it makes Korean formality a little bit simpler, since that is by far the hardest thing for me as learner 😅
@blueraineee
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone gets to start drinking on the same day
@nevermind2312
2 жыл бұрын
And now it has changed
@nicholaswhorley8343
2 жыл бұрын
I got 2 years older just arriving in Korea. I was 32 when I left my country (a day before my birthday) and was 34 immediately upon arriving since it was not only my birthday, but I had to add that extra year for my Korean age. Then I quickly turned 35 during the following new year just 4 months later. 3 years in like 4 months lol. Still makes me laugh. Honestly, it and the oppressive hierarchy need to be dissolved. More harm than good for Koreans, imo.
@potterhead2194
2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow now I understand the system, thank you!
@damzzx_
2 жыл бұрын
독특한 문화다
@bluebirdeyes
2 жыл бұрын
This year I turned 30 in Korean age T-T I'm only 28, Korea, don't age me so fast! I imagine many women want to switch to international age for that reason alone haha
@KylieXD1823
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading this video I understand this now
@brownvirtue
Жыл бұрын
If you change it from who’s older in years to who’s older in months, you can still keep your hierarchy. You just ask for the birth date and not the birth year and whoever is older in years remains your hyung/oppa/noona/unnie. It only affects same age friends. Whoever is older in months becomes the hyung/oppa/noona/unnie. Someone born December 31, 2000 will still be older than the person born on January 1, 2001 even though now they will both be 22 all but one day in 2023.
@Koreanmarie
2 жыл бұрын
Very simple and concise explanation there teacher! 👍
@k-quest
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This was really helpful, now it all makes sense!
@iamme_youareyou
2 жыл бұрын
When I was younger, I used to add the year I was born😃(like the Korean Age System) too to find my age but later, my family said that it's not how it's done😐....But I find the Korean Age System interesting😊!!!....Thank u TTMIK!!❤
@martinamaffei
2 жыл бұрын
Very useful! Thanks 😉
@nigarhasanli9129
2 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for korean people. They are considered older for no reason at all. When you should still be in your late 20s, you are already 30 in S.Korea, this is so depressing:/
@aphr0d
2 жыл бұрын
And what's wrong with bring 30??? You need to embrace aging instead of being depressed about it. We are all gonna age. The clock with never stop ticking. Enjoy your life and enjoy the process. And it helps to have friends of your age group to that can relate to the challenges and lifestyle of your age. Older and younger friends are great too but definitely have some that are you age as well, since they can relate to you on one more aspect of life.
@nigarhasanli9129
2 жыл бұрын
@@aphr0d I completely agree with you. I just wrote from my pov. I'm on my mid twenties and I already feel depressed about my age:D But in any case, it's weird to think of 3 months old baby as a 1 year old. All growth period and stuff is going by international age, so it doesn't match either.
@tenzingwangmo9379
2 жыл бұрын
Nepal is a multi-ethnic, multi-lingual, multi-religious and multi-cultural state, with Nepali as the official language. People from the Himalayan part of the Nepal also use the same age counting system. While performing ritual ceremonies or marriage ceremony they use the birth year to count the age instead of birth date. Only difference is the year counts from our New Year not on January. Ex: if you are born in 11month of Ox year you will be 2 in the year of Tiger which is only a month year old in regular age counting. I find Korean culture is very similar to our culture 😊 That’s why I am learning Korean language and Korean culture to find out more similarities.
@wandapharrow1000
2 жыл бұрын
Ok now I understand...I wondered why RM from BTS says he is 1yr older than his actual age...neat
@ananya_hs
2 жыл бұрын
I guess every culture and language in this world has its own formalities and some exceptions. That goes with Korean language and its culture too. So, there is nothing to be disliked about the Korean age system.
@monticarlo8064
2 жыл бұрын
I heard that Korean age system is associated with the idea that life starts in the moment of conception rather than birth. If so, it doesn't seem unplausible to me even if I don't quite understand why it is connected to the beginning of a new calendar year.
@DaniaRohena
2 жыл бұрын
It must be very difficult for a man to date an older woman with this system and viceversa. I think this age system and the formal language determined by age and familiarity perpetuates the control over how people perceive other people according to age and social status. It seems sweet and endearing but imo it serves as a control system that encourages ageism. It may mean respect when the age gap is evident but when for example a woman is 5 years older than a man, it makes it difficult to connect as something more than mentor/mentee relationship once age is disclosed. I may be wrong but if you have direct experience with this, please clarify. I'm curious to learn.
@bluemintchoco3883
2 жыл бұрын
For those who got confused by korean age system, now we are ok👌. They abolished the system today and now it’s the same with intentional age system 😉
@trusfrated....
2 жыл бұрын
So I am already 15 according to the Korean age and I am not even 14 yet I have one month left in the international age system wow that's shocking I have grown 2 years older without knowing 😳 😮
@vitess
2 жыл бұрын
My region (East China) has the same way about age.
@enicole1203
2 жыл бұрын
I was a little confused by the example just because the man was always older than the woman; he didn't just become older on his birthday. If they're the same year but he's born in April and she in December, he hypothetically could still ask for the same formality. 😅
@kakaji5053
2 жыл бұрын
Tibetans also use a similar system.
@alluzhin8952
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah over here in America I wouldn't say age really matters all that much maybe a little but not like other countries
@SilverHawk214
2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you could just refer to people formally unless (a) they are a minor. or (b) They give you permission to address them in a informal way. (c) They are people who are significantly older (20+ years?) Though that is not without it's own problems it would at least make it easier for international business
@dayisfading
2 жыл бұрын
I would not have expected public opinion on the system to be so negative! That's really interesting.
@Brickerbrack
2 жыл бұрын
My immediate thought is that you continue basing formalities on the _year_ you're born, which doesn't change, rather than your _age,_ which does... In the example, if Seungkwan and Yeji are born in the same year, they'd still be "same-age" friends, even when one has a birthday...
@gangnamkorean3054
2 жыл бұрын
예지쌤 넘 귀여워요~^^
@vadjulawakaru
2 жыл бұрын
I read before there is a bill proposing to abolish the Korean age system.
@gloriastrickland28
2 жыл бұрын
Well I only see that they are two years older but the respect thing is the same in most places but if we’re in the same age group we speak like we’re friends but older we show respect to our elders
@reun9669
2 жыл бұрын
Now its changed congrats yall got younger
@tsunchina3040
2 жыл бұрын
Korean age has been abolished ??
@taexdiya_3460
2 жыл бұрын
Hi
@curlyfriesss2380
2 жыл бұрын
actually China too but basically everyone just has a year added to their age for the time their in their mum I think and they don’t count it for school years I think idk I’m sorry
@ABcdefgI143
2 жыл бұрын
I'm chinese and most people in China had a similar age system (in fact, this entire "counting pregnancy age" thing came from China) but we abolished it. And the next thing we knew, there was only 2 formality level left - one for everyone who you don't have to be formal with, one for people decades older than you / unfamiliar / more authority. There was nothing left on "age" (i.e. 27 and 28, no difference, but 27 and 57 you can tell the difference by eye, so use formal). I kinda like how Korean kept it, though. It's part of the East Asian culture and *someone* should keep using it.
@patronrosalie3872
2 жыл бұрын
😊😊😊
@reinamoedad5228
2 жыл бұрын
If your not Korean do you have to follow the ageing rule 🤔
@glossaria2
2 жыл бұрын
If it went by international age (birthday), wouldn't someone who's older than you just... always be older than you? It would no longer be by year, it would be according to specific age. (Since you'd be asking anyway, it seems like asking birthday instead of year wouldn't be much of a step farther...) I think part of what makes it difficult for foreign speakers (like me) is how very precise it is. In English, I generally use more formal/respectful language towards people who are clients, senior co-workers, or people who are significantly my elder, but that decision is generally based on an estimated age. It makes me kind of uncomfortable to demand that kind of respect from someone who's only a year or two younger than me. I guess... it feels pretentious? I mean, we basically have the same level of life experience, so I feel like... how is my year or so of life deserving of greater respect? Also, in the U.S. it's generally considered rude to ask a stranger their age unless you're enforcing some kind of age restriction, so that part of the conversation is going to take some getting used to. :D
@rebeccasjodal9769
2 жыл бұрын
Confusing for me as a Swede😥 But interesting👍🏻
@ItsMeAnn628
Жыл бұрын
Since I’ve become a BTS fan I learned about the Korean age. I never understood how they can say a newborn is one years old since the infant hasn’t actually lived an entire year. 🤷♀️ Glad the country is changing to the international age for all legal matters. 😁💜
@elviramagnusson2396
2 жыл бұрын
But if someone in Korea asks me how old I am what should I answer? International or korean age?
@bbyskittles91
2 жыл бұрын
My birthday is December 31st, so I'm not the biggest fan of the Korean age system lol
@theiy_amo
2 жыл бұрын
I have a question about this korean age system. I've watched some variety shows with kpop groups and some, although they are born in the same year, are not considered the same age because they were born in January or February. As an example, someone born in February 1997 is considered a friend of a 1996-born person. How did this happen? Please let me know if I got the wrong idea about this or it is really something normal in Korea. Thank you! 감사합니다 선생님!
@michellelo3637
2 жыл бұрын
I think it is beacuse they went to school early, since new school year start in March every year in Korea. So if they are born in Jan or Feb, they can go to school one year earlier and be in the same grade as the people born in 1996. In recent years, the education system change and people born on or after 2003 (I think), cannot go to school one year earlier and everyone will be born in the same year. Correct me if I am wrong.
@여자그냥
2 жыл бұрын
It's usually a personal choice if they have an early birthday like January February. Also it isnt actually acknowledged. Like if they are born 1997 in January they still aren't allowed to drink the same year that those in 1996 turn 20. They have to wait to drink with those born in there year
@nwoletmein
2 жыл бұрын
I used to think Korean age worked this way, but my Korean coworkers told me that I am a year older than I thought because my birthday is in January, and the Lunar New Year is the actual date everyone gains a year on. Does this vary by region?
@AlM22
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it actually adds an extra year onto your Korean age, but if you were born in January/before Lunar New Year, you can be classed as the same age with someone born the previous year - 빠른. Not everyone agrees to this, just depends who you're with and how close they are to you but say if you meet someone born the year before you and you were born on e.g. 13th Jan, they may allow you to speak informally to them and treat them as a friend, yet some others may still wish you to speak formally and treat them as older. Depends on the person.
@ShadiaMAhmed
2 жыл бұрын
of course we must respect any culture. But. really l can't understand this much respect for being born before me
@ilin.football
2 жыл бұрын
I am half korean.
@tiffanybrown1001
2 жыл бұрын
It makes sense to count the time in the womb as one year.
@applepatronum4934
2 жыл бұрын
I still have some questions. I thought they get the one plus year at Lunar New Year but now you say a baby turns two on January first. Also, how does that look in school? Everyone born in 2002, from January to December will be in the same year? How about the honourifics like unnie? So yeah i'm mainly confused about Lunar New Year, i thought you're the same age if you have the same Chinese sign, but now seems like people who were born in 2002 January (snake sign) can be grouped together with people born in 2002 May (horse sign).
@dayeonuri_
2 жыл бұрын
I think its actually not nesesary. I don't wanna spread hate but it looks very odd like everyone thier gets older in the same day. If a 10 year old kid was born on 2011 december 31st the following day they would be 11 years old... I don't think the culvation should work like this in korea. But i do rlly vouch for one thing and respect it more. I rlly vouch for the older name and younger name they have to call. In Bangladesh we call our elders boy=bhaiya or uncle girl= api/apu or auntie. I rlly like the culvation style of the asians. Its kinda odd to be honest by calling your older brother or sister by "you" or there name...
@patperez1446
2 жыл бұрын
So if siblings are born in the same year for example one in January and one in December are they the same age?
@talktomeinkorean
2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@btslife.shamkook298
2 жыл бұрын
Plz tell me I am born in 2010 5 june then what is my age in 2022
@scribblesandscrawls
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how many times this has been explained to me but I STILL don’t get it 😂
@haleemasadia1421
2 жыл бұрын
Why does she looks like TXT yeonjun??😳🤩
@ohmyuniverse2773
2 жыл бұрын
She is look like hyojun
@jagx234
2 жыл бұрын
My son was born on Dec 31st, 2018. I had a fun time blowing my wife's mind with this fact.
@blueraineee
2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! Your baby is 2 years old once it's born!
@ariarichannel2022
2 жыл бұрын
한국 나이 정말 복잡해요. 잘 설명해주셨어요~~!👍👍
@gvxkaur
2 жыл бұрын
Soo I'll be turning 14?
@selmaakkus8966
2 жыл бұрын
Turkey uses the same system
@pennyteddy8062
2 жыл бұрын
MY KOREAN AGE IS 16 NOW WHAT IM GETTING OLD
@nadinewang.official
2 жыл бұрын
I feel so old
@fancyvalencia127
2 жыл бұрын
seriously asking, isnt China also use this?
@Leilarosales9834
2 жыл бұрын
Can't you still be respectful and speak formally using international age? Also it ages people faster (not physically but numerically)
@dvnnliv
2 жыл бұрын
I'm already 10 years old?🤭
@nekohwa4962
2 жыл бұрын
Funny how the president j removed this system
@MhaYeeArt
2 жыл бұрын
So if there are twins born a couple of hours apart and falls on two different years, they will have different korean age. Interesting...
@cutegirl955
2 жыл бұрын
Pov: you are an army😁💜
@v.s.5349
2 жыл бұрын
The Korean age system is fostering a culture of hierarchy based on age. This creates conflict.
@aditi2994
2 жыл бұрын
남자입니다..
@servantrose
2 жыл бұрын
With my westernized mind, I don't see the advantage of doing this. I think keeping to their culture is cool and wonderful and definitely do it, but if 75% of people hate it seems like they could phase it out slowly. maybe come up with another way of keeping to honorifics. altho it would still work with the int'l age system. Also, do you need to ask everyone around you their age in order to know if they are oppa or not? Like in the video, the guy announced he was older - ok clear, but how about if it's not announced? Seems like that would cause some awkward moments (i've been deferring to you all this time and you are 1 year YOUNGer than me) hahaha
@mamastay164
2 жыл бұрын
I still don't understand.
@Fellapart
2 жыл бұрын
I'm 16😂
@victorfergn
Жыл бұрын
So... Koreans don't want to remember anybody's birthday
@canalabouteverything
2 жыл бұрын
One year more, or one year less, best wishes to you 여지 님 because of the international women's day ⚘⚘⚘
@melissat9120
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone watching this after the Korean presidential election? Heh heh heh 🙃
@kevinross6235
2 жыл бұрын
I understand the Korean age better now, but the system still doesn't make sense, lol.
@우비-f4y
2 жыл бұрын
세는나이가 중국 나이계산법 문화임 쪽팔리니까 한국나이 홍보 하지 마세요...어차피 이제 곧 세는나이 폐지하고 우리나라도 만나이 쓸거임
@thylionheart
2 жыл бұрын
Whenever I think about Korean age & social hierarchy, I think about how Beomgyu and Soobin from TXT are only 3 months apart, but Soobin is born in 2000 while Beomgyu is born in 2001, so Soobin is Beomgyu’s “hyung.” But Beomgyu has pointed out how Taehyun and HueningKai are nine months apart, but both in 2002, so they’re same-age. So even though Soobin and Beomgyu are closer in age than Taehyun and HueningKai are, there’s a formality gap that frustrates Beomgyu. It makes me think about my own life and how there were classmates I had in high school that were close in age to me but in a different year, and how uncomfortable and frustrated I would be if I had to extend formalities to them just because they’re a few months older than me. I’m of the opinion that merit and kindness matters more than age when it comes to earning respect, but I can’t say that an entire country’s system is wrong. That’s up to them to decide.
@cupid.dazaii
2 жыл бұрын
yep. and btw you're a moa too uwu can we be friends
@CuriousJinn
2 жыл бұрын
Well, I guess age and formalities matter a lot for us, Asians. And I find nothing wrong with that. I take pride in our culture and our values.
@MrsNiaboo2000
2 жыл бұрын
Why does it have to affect your actual age?? You can still have formalities without this weird counting.
@lucasmitchell369
2 жыл бұрын
You dont need to use this age system to use formalities. It just less accurately represents your actual age and adds confusion. Then again I don't live in Korea so I wouldn't know but I am familiar with formalities as I speak a language that uses polite speech. Of course English uses formalities as well foreigners just don't realize that we do because we are more friendly with strangers typically.
@CuriousJinn
2 жыл бұрын
@@귤귤-t5l No, not if you keep abusing me. But without abuses, even if you are one month older than me or just 30 days, I'll use the formalities. We, Asians have our culture based on this system. We don't enter the house and go give a hug to our father saying, "Hey dad, what's up?" The first thing we do is bow before the elders (Indians even touch the feet as a form of respect) and then proceed with greeting the others. Because experiences matter here. The more elderly the person, the more experienced they are. It's how we have our lifestyles - family based. 😇
@realist4418
2 жыл бұрын
@@CuriousJinn you live in a very strict orthodox household then. i know no indian family around me that still encourages this standard because most times even slightly older people end up taking advantage of it. and btw, it's way better to be honest and close to your parents than fearing them for the sake of giving "respect"
@radhikacsa3585
2 жыл бұрын
As long as age is not being used for a power trip I think its great for teaching us boundaries and being respectful of others.
@earthsmightiestdorks
2 жыл бұрын
The percentage of people unhappy with Korean age was waaaay higher than I was expecting! Wow! It still doesn't make the most sense to me as a western person to count people born in December to have experienced the whole year but I do see now how it's so closely related to the language and culture! I do hope that if I ever go to Korea I'll get a pass to not adhere to it as a foreigner tho, I'm not ready to instantly age a year 😂
@littleone3357
2 жыл бұрын
Though it’s not actually “culture” because it’s just an age. Plus I asked Koreans where it came from and they said they don’t know. Meaning they don’t even know if it came from Korea itself… which makes me believe it possibly came from china, but why do they still use it if it’s not even their own?
@EsperSpirit
2 жыл бұрын
I don't mind the different way of counting it. It even has some advantages, especially if you get older and have to calculate how old you currently are (yes, it happens). But the cultural aspect of having to ask everyone how old they are is imo really annoying. It also makes no sense to treat someone with more or less respect just because they might be born a few months before or after you.
@aidanrlow104
2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never seen this 5-minute Korea style video from you guys, but I really enjoyed it! Thanks for the amazing content 💛
@julevincentjaraula1749
2 жыл бұрын
This cleared up my confusion about the Korean age system. It would also be helpful if TTMIK can briefly discuss about the military enlistment system, because enlistment timelines of Korean idols and celebrities also confuse me a lot. 😅
@pritika_
2 жыл бұрын
They use international age for that. Current enlistment deadline for most is by their 28th birthday (actual day) in international age. With idols, BTS have an exception, where they have until 30 (in international age), so as it currently stands, Jin will have to enlist by his 30th birthday in December this year (even though he is 31 in Korean age), and Suga will have to enlist by his 30th birthday next March (he is 30 in Korean age now).
@julevincentjaraula1749
2 жыл бұрын
@@pritika_ Ohh, thank you for the very clear explanation! However, I just have one clarification. Semantic Error lead actor Park Seoham (who actually used to train with BTS back in the day) actually just enlisted in the military yesterday (March 10), but he was born on October 28, 1993, which is way beyond his 28th birthday already. What could be the explanation in his case?
@pritika_
2 жыл бұрын
@@julevincentjaraula1749 Good point! That I don't know, maybe there is some leeway as long as you are still 28? Not sure, though I know you can apply for extensions for good reasons, but don't know much more than that!
@mi_2
2 жыл бұрын
In Japan, the same system was also used in the past, but it has almost disappeared from our daily life. "Shichigosan (七五三)" is one of the few examples of using it. It is a traditional event to go to a Shinto shrine and pray when our child becomes 3, 5 or 7 years old. The same one as the Korean style in this video, is often used at that time. For the first time I knew the system also exists in Korea, and this viedo made me feel Korea more close. Thank you!
@Kumulmeskis
2 жыл бұрын
It is of course a very unique cultural approach, but makes no sense at all to a foreigner. You probably have to explain yourself each time you collide with the International business to avoid the confusion regarding age :))
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