I know that this video is a gross oversimplification here's a video with a well researched and well argued takes, it's worth the watch. kzitem.info/news/bejne/1aCJ3np3gIJqhqg
@themoondeity
Жыл бұрын
*37 seconds ago*
@just_efraim
Жыл бұрын
💪
@krisprdz9986
Жыл бұрын
i ammm sooo glad more and more artists are waking up to this , preach it brother , and thank you so much for your effort to spread the word out !!!
@neon-kq6wz
Жыл бұрын
Unrelated but good job with the lip syncing bro that sh*t is way too difficult lmao
@noobatredstone3001
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t call it an oversimplification, as it doesn’t relate to reality much. At the moment, AI does the very same thing artists do - it looks at references to make its own picture. The linked video does not deny this. In response, it says: « The details of stable diffusions’s, or any other model’s process, are not what we want to get caught up on, as new methods will be developed, new companies will emerge, and the technology will change » (8:54) The first part of this response calls us to ignore details, and the second is speculating about technological advancement (which is fine in context of that video, but not for understanding how the A.I. actually works). Furthermore, the whole section of the video does not seem to ever deny the process’ description in the argument. To be clear, I am by no means protecting the “AI artists.” The artwork is created by the A.I., not by the prompt writer. Edit: I had time to watch the video properly now, and it seems to be mainly talking about the ethical issue. The author even specifies that the A.I.’s output is still art.
@Aldanaonair
6 ай бұрын
I once saw an AI "artist" who did AI art "commission" for $15 using a free AI art generator. I'm fucking done
@hashbird22
4 ай бұрын
well typing "someone eating cheese realising it was their hair" is worth arguably $30 of course, if that argument is with a toddler
@cantin8697
4 ай бұрын
But it's HARD WORK to type what you want. No joke, I've seen someone use that excuse once for calling themselves an artist... To be fair though, it probably is hard to type "hot anime waifu" while holding two waifu body pillows.
@user-fh3im9xe9u
4 ай бұрын
@@cantin8697 its definitely hard to add 30 watermarks and send over the screenshot one handed too
@HauntedOath
4 ай бұрын
@@cantin8697 its easy to get random good looking pictures but hard to get specific good looking pictures
@aeoligarlic4024
4 ай бұрын
The worst part is some people are buying it
@Sanches7557
Жыл бұрын
Everyone think it’s a joke… until AI artists make a Patreon and ask for donations
@L30N_M
Жыл бұрын
Sad part is there's one that come to mind. Though I can't remember his name, he's gotten called out because he's been posting on twitter his clearly AI developed art without tagging it as either AI or non post edited material. A few art drama KZitemrs though I know made videos on the situation, but story is the guy opened like a Ko-Fi or something along the lines of that for open commissions to sell his AI art aka compiled stolen assests
@doaflamingo3713
Жыл бұрын
until ? there are so many of them, what they 'teach' you is how to put prompts LOL
@Sanches7557
Жыл бұрын
@@L30N_M Wow, that sounds awful. Selling AI art without tagging it feels like such a scam. I mean taking requests from friends to make a neat profile pic is one thing (I used it for my DnD character), but to make paid commisions is stealing with extra steps
@Mente_Fugaz
Жыл бұрын
Don"t worry, that patreon channels are not selling art, are selling prompt tricks, so the consumers are thereselves lol... And people who sell "art" are basically scaming so their business has short life... There was scams since a really long ago, people who even sell artists content without consent,
@w110w0
Жыл бұрын
@@Sanches7557 that doesn't sound just awful. I'm pretty sure it's illegal too. It's sad to see this because a handful of scummy people gave such a bad reputation to a tool that could've helped actual artists find new ideas and inspiration.
@0BucketMask0
Жыл бұрын
"I made this cake!" "You bought it from the bakery down the road." "WELL I TOLD THEM WHAT I WANTED ON IT SO I MADE IT!!!!!!!!!"
@mellamojeff458
Жыл бұрын
Same cope about piracy jesus
@dranfessa
Жыл бұрын
stupid comparison Here, rather, I watched hundreds and thousands of bakers create decorations on their cakes, I took those that fit my composition and made them my own way
@0BucketMask0
Жыл бұрын
@@dranfessa please shut up
@Orange_Swirl
Жыл бұрын
Well, I wouldn't say I *made* it, more like employed modern slavery to make it and so now it's mine
@VentingGragory
Жыл бұрын
@@dranfessa made it your own way, you say? By telling bakery what you wanted on it?
@oisy
Жыл бұрын
Artists are like people who spent 5 years learning a foreign language, while ai artists are the ones who use google translate and pretend like they understand the language and the culture behind it.
@snuckel4
Жыл бұрын
yep
@inker_monkey
6 ай бұрын
fr
@yashi0412
6 ай бұрын
This hits me in another stage of pain
@ZackShark1
6 ай бұрын
*cough cough* wehraboos
@Debate_Bot
5 ай бұрын
Culture behind it is crazy when you talk about drawing
@prexytheartist
Жыл бұрын
AI artists are the equivalent of people copying your homework and getting more points than you
@ARCHIVED9610
Жыл бұрын
Yeaa.
@malak.art.99
Жыл бұрын
Fr
@Sanches7557
Жыл бұрын
Or hearing your joke and re-telling it for the whole class to laugh (K&P reference right here)
@monsares
Жыл бұрын
not only copying. they are the ones who had the idea, but let another person copy it for them
@Akaeru
Жыл бұрын
@@Sanches7557 the guy who said the joke, but louder
@chanbricks4461
Жыл бұрын
The only good part of AI art is that normal artists can see what errors they can avoid when making REAL art
@Nina-wh6hb
Жыл бұрын
Yeah (and reference that they can’t find)
@randominternetuser2436
Жыл бұрын
Are we forgetting that Ai can get better??
@Akacchin
Жыл бұрын
@@randominternetuser2436 i mean yeah, but it's not that fun to just use words to make art, it's still art but depressing
@randominternetuser2436
Жыл бұрын
@@Akacchin I don’t think those companies are making Ai to be fun, they’re training the Ai just to be sold for big companies, nothing more.
@eid8fkebe7f27ejdjdjduyhsvqhwu2
Жыл бұрын
And making a lewd picture specifically tailored to your desires.
@Portahooty
Жыл бұрын
Ai artists telling artists not to make art anymore is like telling someone to stop making a sandwich because they can order it online
@crazyhairsinger
8 ай бұрын
Or also like asking chefs to stop making complex dishes because mcdonalds exists
@inker_monkey
6 ай бұрын
exactly. even hooty agrees
@oeildeconstellations1768
13 күн бұрын
Yeah or like ask the bakeries to stop making bread when you literally need bread to make a sandwich in the first place
@Ibloop
7 ай бұрын
Most AI artist can’t even code ☠️
@Sharp22CatFish
6 ай бұрын
I don't get the point you're trying to make because most artists can't code in the first place
@ceejay_outstanding6546
6 ай бұрын
@@Sharp22CatFish I don’t think that’s the point of the comment Is there really any need for coding when it comes to drawing or painting?
@Sharp22CatFish
6 ай бұрын
@@ceejay_outstanding6546 I understand
@2006HondaCivicD
6 ай бұрын
Realest take
@eatplastic9133
4 ай бұрын
Actually some of us code and draw. It's all helpful in 3d work. AI artists will fall behind because of their laziness
@ls0l4ce
Жыл бұрын
I've seen a couple of good artists delete their accounts because their art keep getting stolen for IA. We really are in the worst timeline.
Calling Ai users artists is like calling fast food junkies chefs, neither make shit themselves
@the_big_5_is_the_goat
Жыл бұрын
The second one is cap. How pur they not chefs if they cook the food
@nez_ic
Жыл бұрын
@@the_big_5_is_the_goat OP's talking about fast food customers, not employees
@peterkantor9494
Жыл бұрын
Well technically fast food junkies do make shit.
@neraslight4997
Жыл бұрын
What if I make art, think it’s good then 7 months later feed it into ai, trace it and fix it up a bit, and make more art? Is that technically bad?
@neraslight4997
Жыл бұрын
And the ai in question was just an HD regeneration of my own art
@twentystars6116
6 ай бұрын
Ai art is like mass produced food engineered to be as delicious/addictive as possible by corporations and it’s like saying there will be no more home cooked meals or fine dining because it’s cheaper and faster to buy microwave meals
@twentystars6116
6 ай бұрын
I would prefer to pay for a piece made by an artist with a signature style that I‘ve been following, even if I could get an identical piece from a computer. It’s less gratifying and takes the value away. This is less true for industry art/corporations.
@romanrytp
Ай бұрын
Based
@Valcuda
6 ай бұрын
I saw someone say "Artists are only upset because it lets the non talented make something" 1. Art doesn't require talent, you're just lazy. It's a skill anyone can learn. Even people whos art you admire once sucked, they simply put in the effort to get better over a long period of time. 2. You didn't make the artwork. If asking someone to make art for you doesn't make you the creator, neither does asking an AI.
@thesun9210
5 ай бұрын
There's more to AI art though, like good prompting, editing problematic details and perfecting your art, but i get your point about people who just post raw results from AI.
@anordinaryfellow2832
5 ай бұрын
@@thesun9210 I'd like to know more about AI. Not interested in using it, I can paint quite well on Photoshop or CSP. Internet stranger here politely asking you If you have some experience with this and tell me more about it.
@thesun9210
5 ай бұрын
@@anordinaryfellow2832 well, everything starts with a model, the very base of any generated image, it can be realistic, anime, cartoonish or 3d like, they all give different results and demand personal prompt approach because of weights which affect the noise alteration and as such the final result so a lot of time goes to find optimal key words for every model you use. Then there are smaller models, LORAs, that bring in custom weights and which trained on specific images like characters, styles, clothes and such, their role is to bring something new into the base model, something that wasn't there, i think artists mostly complain about these because there are lots of LORAs trained on specific artists like WLOP or SamDoesArts, and results really look like drawn by them, but it's not really what the whole community rolls around, because characters, detail improvements and NSFW content are far more popular. There is also img2img tab which primarily used as photoshop to fix details like arms, eyes or anything else that needs fixing, or it can be used to generate arts from very basic sketches and it's also used for upscaling the image from 512x512 up to 4k+ or even expand the image beyond it's original content, it is present in photoshop i believe, this feature was very hyped on release, and on SD it was present from very early on. There are also lots of extensions with their own systems like ControlNet which allows to generate characters in specific poses, or take depth maps of pictures to alter the originals without losing the main idea, or also canny type which used to capture all the outlines in the picture, which can be used to paint manga for example. So it's a very big ecosystem that doesn't come down to simply steal artist's work, it's actually a very powerful tool to skip most of the labour work and create new things, that rely only on imagination, community and prompt manipulating skill.
@ajdndbdjbdj
5 ай бұрын
@@anordinaryfellow2832AI is only limited by how limited the human mind is, basically because its made by a human
@anordinaryfellow2832
5 ай бұрын
@@thesun9210 That's actually interesting, from the way you describe it. It could truly enhance and make an artist's workflow much faster and more effective. Oh, question( if you don't mind): So an AI generator generates better images if the model that is being employed is (generally speaking) "better" right? Are there developers who charge money for these models? How much could they charge? Or are most models just free to use? (Wanted to thank you for taking your time to write this. Im just Tryna expand my view on this new technology. Guess I'm too lazy to Google it up or smn 💀
@TheMoonShepard
Жыл бұрын
They aren't even artists, they're users, the machine creates the art, they just tell it to do, and even then it's from references other humans create.
@pokepumpkin9376
Жыл бұрын
THIS RIGHT HERE ☝
@drippycity4135
Жыл бұрын
Exactly! That’s like saying you’re an author bc you posted an AI Dungeon session online
@randominternetuser2436
Жыл бұрын
And when Ai becomes good, they will just sell it to big companies, selling ARTISTS work
@EdenHamilton
Жыл бұрын
I'm a regular artist but I also use AI and consider myself an AI artist. I think the difference between some dude just using AI and an AI artist is that an AI artist is good at giving good prompts, using Img2Img to repeatedly change parts of the image and put it back into the AI to get the exact final result and layout you want and using good compositing and colour adjustments to make the final image look better. I don't think an AI artist is remotely on par with a good regular artist, but I think to me at least the term is there to separate people like me who put a lot of work in whilst generating artwork and the average AI user who just puts in a prompt and gets a piece of art.
@randominternetuser2436
Жыл бұрын
@@EdenHamilton I get your point, but I must question, do you use your own art or just an Ai that steals other people’s art?
@misterlamprey7777
Жыл бұрын
I know a dude who described ai "artists" perfectly.... "This Dominos pizza is great, I chose all the right toppings/crust/cheeses/sauces! I'm such a great chef!"
@cinnabunii
Жыл бұрын
exactly that
@gabiz1331
3 ай бұрын
Lmao best description I've heard so far
@isabrom5295
Ай бұрын
And they took it without paying because they "made" it
@Shimamon27
2 ай бұрын
A.I artists with pen and paper - "Well pen, here's what I want you to write..." Pen does nothing. A.I artists - begin a crying session.
@dootrevenant5886
Жыл бұрын
I fucking hate AI artists, they're delusional for thinking that feeding prompts into a machine is the same as making real art
@omnipresentcatgod245
Жыл бұрын
Well both takes effort but making real art is much harder
@SpookyHost
Жыл бұрын
@@omnipresentcatgod245 yea sitting on your ass and typing words is so difficult while me sitting for 6 hours is so equal to ai that doesn't even move a damn brush😂
@omnipresentcatgod245
Жыл бұрын
@@SpookyHost Do you think we just type words to get the AI to work perfectly, Nah it's much more complicated. I take hours to generate what I call a "perfect image" without anatomically incorrect things and perfect lighting, proportions and shadow.
@sockening
Жыл бұрын
@@omnipresentcatgod245 literally just clicking a button
@sockening
Жыл бұрын
@@omnipresentcatgod245 ive used ai art before, and as an actual artist that makes real art, it IS as easy as it sounds. sure it might take you a tiny bit to generate what you want, but all youre doing is sitting on ur ass and clicking a button. no skill involved.
@Xxblade17
Жыл бұрын
At first ai art was cool when people were messing around with it and having fun but now its becoming mainstream and that aint it
@ammagon4519
Жыл бұрын
Me basically on anything lol
@ShinyShilla
Жыл бұрын
when it's for fun quircky horrors, sure But when people "train" the ai to simply emulate an artist art and punish that artist, that's too much
@isabelly7998
Жыл бұрын
Some years ago I liked to use it as inspiration for my own art, just for fun and training, I remember being so excited about the whole machine learning thing. Now its just sad
@MitridatedCarbon
Жыл бұрын
Mainly because it is uninspired. Like the few that used it at first had cool ideas, but the mainstream population doesn't. Like, I'm getting really tired of Beksinski, Giger, Junji Ito, Greg Rutkowski and others applied to very mundane stuff.
@scaleythedino49
Жыл бұрын
Agree
@Poppy-ht8rb
Жыл бұрын
artist : *trained for years* ai : "fuck you find other job go back to college"
@Azarthes
Жыл бұрын
theyll also tell you that youre greedy and its a good thing youre being filtered out of the job market
@the_big_5_is_the_goat
Жыл бұрын
@@Azarthes I mean it is pretty greedy I personally have had my art stolen but I don't give af. It's a waste of time to care about getting art stolen even if the person gets more attention than u, like if u care about art getting stolen than ur either a attention seeker or sensitive or want fame waaay to much. But this is all my opinion tho not a actual fact👐👐
@Azarthes
Жыл бұрын
@@the_big_5_is_the_goat i dunno i dont exactly think artists are greedy when theyre trying to get credit that costs nothing for their work i can see a company or a person not crediting an artist if they purchased the art, money has already been given and im not their marketing agent. but outright stealing... yea
@the_big_5_is_the_goat
Жыл бұрын
@@Azarthes meh
@the_big_5_is_the_goat
Жыл бұрын
@@Azarthes I don't either tbh. All of my opinions are very simple but also very very complicated so it's like meh 🤷🏾
@salamanderavem3782
Жыл бұрын
I am seeing Ai art accounts Makes me sad they blow up more than actual artists who do hand work
@ferrijuhul
Жыл бұрын
not really surprised there.. they spam images hundreds per day while real artist post once a week.. they will get more attention of course..
@midnalazuli793
6 ай бұрын
I don’t care what anyone says. “AI artists” don’t even deserve to be called “artists.” Real artists create, “AI artists” text something out and then push a button.
@thesun9210
5 ай бұрын
Depends on who defines the "art", I as a customer don't really care how the painting was created if it fulfills to my desires.
@midnalazuli793
5 ай бұрын
@@thesun9210 “Fulfill your desires?” What the actual fuck is that supposed to mean?
@thesun9210
5 ай бұрын
@@midnalazuli793 creating what i want to be created, what else could it mean? I want an art and don't really care about the source if art is good for me.
@midnalazuli793
5 ай бұрын
@@thesun9210 Can you really say you appreciate art if you don't even care who or what makes it?
@thesun9210
5 ай бұрын
@@midnalazuli793 i can appreciate something apealing to my taste, it's no difference for me if it's made by man or machine(also it's very hard to differ if decent amount of efforts have been put into AI art), same applies for lots of things and the world still didn't collapse because machines took some jobs, i see no difference between AI revolution and any other technological revolution, people lose jobs, prices go down, same as it many times happened and will happen many times in the future.
@w110w0
Жыл бұрын
Assert dominance on the prompt writers by commissioning them to make a fully hand-drawn illustration.
@matheussanthiago9685
Жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd be in the same boat as the "show your work" kinda of teacher
@savagespider6836
Жыл бұрын
Yes this right here
@realdragon
Жыл бұрын
Assert dominance by 150 word description of what you want
@flow185
Жыл бұрын
@@matheussanthiago9685 "you and I aint so different after all"
@daveyi
Жыл бұрын
assert dominance by asking for something extremely specific and detailed
@micah329
Жыл бұрын
So AI art just became another way to steal artists work legally
@Sanches7557
Жыл бұрын
It is not legal, however, there is no certain strict rules on it yet. Imagine being the first photographer in the world and selling your photos as realistic physical art
@doesbadart13
Жыл бұрын
PRETTY MUCH :(
@aflockofconnivingmagpies3490
Жыл бұрын
That's the thing, it's still not even legal lol, no matter how much you changes you make to the original, as long as you still used it without permission or license you're still violating their copyright, it's just the word copyright has become such a dirty word on the internet that these people know they can just bully the actual artist into submission by amassing a mob to harass them.
@MacZephyrZ
Жыл бұрын
@@aflockofconnivingmagpies3490 I'm sure you could make the case that the art is "transformative" and therefore fair use. That said I think this'll probably just be a fad like NFTs. People will stop being impressed when the novelty wears off and people see how unintentionally offputting the images are. Still gross for the time being, though.
@defaulted9485
Жыл бұрын
To avoid this I think StableDiffusion use Public Domain art or Creative Commons as their copyright are made publicly free. If you want an actual issue, consider using a certain living artist's name alias to create a specifically tailored art and see if they consent about it. If they are using a living artist's name then the AI is directed to take many of their arts directly.
@BruhDidYouKnowThat
2 ай бұрын
Ai shouldn't replace artists, they should HELP artists. Period.
@bunniixe
Жыл бұрын
this whole ai art thing makes me feel so unmotivated as a young artists, my art isn't that good and I'm trying my best to improve it but seeing people just generating art with one click makes me wanna quit bc I put it so much effort in practicing art😭😭
@SpookyHost
Жыл бұрын
Hey,as a artiat myself,first off I'd say,don't give up,(: your improving alot trust me and ai can NEVER so what you do other then steal shit, the motivation is that your better then a computer! :D keep on the improvement take breaks when you can and see how far you've come on day!really proud of you!^^ cant wait to see you in art museum one day! :D good luck!
@sockening
Жыл бұрын
dont give up, please. giving up is the worst thing you can ever do because everyone starts somewhere, you will only get better with time. if you continue, in the future, you will look back at yourself and will be glad that you never gave up.
@mr.milkoloid9467
Жыл бұрын
Give up. While you hone the skill of drawing hands - the AI will already make at least 20 masterpieces at the level of world art. While you learn how to draw eyes - the AI will already make a step-by-step instruction for its "works". By the time you learn anatomy, there will be soooo much generated art, that people will basically lose any interest in art and you will simply lose time.
@nidgithm
Жыл бұрын
i feel this, I've already been struggling with motivation for various reasons and this is just a cherry on top
@ouroboreas
Жыл бұрын
@@mr.milkoloid9467 haha no. art can be fun and fulfilling to make. it doesn't matter if a computer can do it better. acquiring skills is cool regardless B)
@gingerskyyy
Жыл бұрын
Edit: guys stop responding. It’s been a year and this statement was made with the knowledge from this and some other videos talking about it. AI "artists" go trash talking actual artists and they say that there is no point in doing art anymore because AIs are better, but when in reality without human art AI can't generate images. AI doesn't just magically make up images. It looks at real art and generates an image with that. If people stopped drawing, then the AIs wouldn't be able to take part of their artwork to create images.
@noobatredstone3001
Жыл бұрын
If humans stopped drawing, the A.I.s would still be able to. If the database was erased, they wouldn’t.
@ihavenoname7599
Жыл бұрын
You're a serious hypocrite
@gingerskyyy
Жыл бұрын
@@ihavenoname7599 how am I a hypocrite?
@dibbidydoo4318
Жыл бұрын
@@noobatredstone3001 ??? database? You do realize that the database was only used to train it, the AI model exists independent of the database all over the internet that can be downloaded locally on any computer.
@noobatredstone3001
Жыл бұрын
@@dibbidydoo4318 Well, then it would just become impossible to create new art generating A.I.s.
@Truth_chan_studio
Жыл бұрын
actual artist: *look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power*
@amartious2123
Жыл бұрын
How long to you take to draw a picture? I'm not an AI model user at all, just wondering how exactly you consider actual artists to be superior to AI.
@ophelia5240
Жыл бұрын
@@amartious2123 AI can't capture emotion at all. It can't tell a story with body language or texture. If you try to generate a human then you'll get random limbs, extra fingers, a third eye. If you try to generate a house or a scene then it'll be incoherent and messy, it does not look professional at all. This is becuase the ai doesn't draw or generate from scratch. It looks up random art from the keywords you gave and mashes several peices together. It's like if you buaght three different cakes and stacked them all on top of each other without removing the decorations. It's obviously someone else's hardworking and you kinda just look like an idiot for calling yourself a cake decorator. Real artists are far superior to ai generation.
@blackwell4701
Жыл бұрын
@@amartious2123 :/ the picture generated by an AI took several years worth of hours due to how much data was needed to correctly make your Squidward Anime Girl icon a reality. Then another set of time just taken to make the damn thing. So yes, an actual artist took less time to make the images the computer is tweaking long before it photoshopped 50 images together.
@Sarahi_Drawz
Жыл бұрын
@@amartious2123 I dunno, maybe because AI literally MERGES ART MADE BY ACTUAL FUCKING ARTISTS? Ai is a cheap art blender that talentless attention seekers on the internet use to get clout. Nothing else.
@Truth_chan_studio
Жыл бұрын
@@amartious2123 from 5 sec - lifetime. Usually take 4 hour for me. Well A.I might be powerful but they can't create styles, yeah they probably can copy styles from a certain artist like Van Gogh but still they can't copy their history and legacy. Real artist could fix the mistake of a painting while A.I probably change the whole painting, sure they can develop some kind of correction command to fix a certain mistake in the painting but that would take an entire crew of developer to do so. Actual artist might understand more of the customer request when doing something like commission, an A.I would not understand human taste,it just do as the command prompt says, some command might overlap sometime.
@alvinip9128
5 ай бұрын
I personally don't hate the existence of ai but yeah people entering a prompt and calling themselves artists is just disgusting
@patrickkirby6580
Жыл бұрын
It’s so crazy to me that artists can’t put their own Spider-Man drawings on a T-shirt and sell it as their own product. But an A.I company used hundreds of copyrighted Spider-Man images that somebody else made, to train their A.I and sell that A.I as their own product. And share none of the profits to the original artist
@merucrypoison296
Жыл бұрын
Remember in Detroit become human all the people were attacking and hating on the robots, we should start doing that in real life nowadays
@charmingsushiball9769
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, because i learnt to draw with dragon ball i can no longer sell my art because i was trained on a copyrighted media, yeah shut up
@chuchu5946
Жыл бұрын
@Merucry Poison In Dune there is a galactic war against AIs and computers. Trillions of people died, but using AI is now a herecy with the death penalty. Just a suggestion ;D
@charmingsushiball9769
Жыл бұрын
@@merucrypoison296 Tell me you haven't played the game lol
@charmingsushiball9769
Жыл бұрын
@@chuchu5946 In Sumeru any kind of artistic expression is illegal because of how useless it is, we should try that aswell. (Obviously not) Keep trying. AI can't be stopped
@derek2288
Жыл бұрын
I bet those "artists" can't even draw shit on paper
@menace21_self63
Жыл бұрын
not all of them, i have seen some ai artist's debunk this because of comments like these....so how much do you wanna bet 🤔
@RandomArtist7
Жыл бұрын
Yes I bet most of them can't
@UnbreakableBird
Жыл бұрын
crippling phobia of pens and papers or something
@Rainjojo
Жыл бұрын
@@menace21_self63 then use your own art and stop stealing ours lmao
@tizzy-hizzy
Жыл бұрын
@@Rainjojo real
@macaronnotmacadamia222
Жыл бұрын
Still thinking about that artist who got thier work stolen by one of these people DURING their stream and then got accused by the person that stole it
@Danariya1
Жыл бұрын
Who was that artist?
@Illamdalt
Жыл бұрын
I still remember that story and how stupid it was. AI bros trying so hard to get likes
@brokenbreaks8029
8 ай бұрын
@@Illamdalt WHO
@rayhimmel7167
5 ай бұрын
answering the thread to see an answer if there will be one
@ShadowHunter7878
4 ай бұрын
@@Illamdalt Who was it
@emmariley1980
Жыл бұрын
It's astounding to me how proudly delusional AI "artists" are. Creativity, inspiration, art, intellectual property are just some of the words that come to my mind that they do not seem to know the meaning of. But it's sad to me how proudly callous they are. That inauthentic works of theft are celebrated in their world. That real artists are mocked for simply not wanting their passion replaced and their hard work stolen, their reflection of those things important to them used for images that are nothing more than math and equations. AI art is anti-art for the laziest among us. An insult to those who trade their time and money for the pursuit of something that has connected humans across continents, centuries, cultures, etc.
@ccordyceps
7 ай бұрын
cope HARDER for me pls.
@emmariley1980
7 ай бұрын
@@ccordyceps the average brainrot response. no surprise there
@ccordyceps
7 ай бұрын
@@emmariley1980 LOL soo mad. keep it up for me.
@jesuschristbutafab9923
5 ай бұрын
@@ccordycepswhiny bitch alert !! Average ai "artist" !! Cry louder, lmao 💞 xoxo
@s-dv9kf
5 ай бұрын
@@ccordycepsno life troll
@nohayconexionainternet609
Жыл бұрын
AI Artist are the new cryptobros
@Lakeside80
Жыл бұрын
The AI tools should force a watermark on the piece so everyone knows it's AI generated. I really think they should do this, every other program has some sort of watermark.
@dibbidydoo4318
Жыл бұрын
How is anyone going to enforce that? you think only big companies have access to it? anyone with a computer can remove it.
@rexanity9452
Жыл бұрын
@@dibbidydoo4318 the process of removing any kind of watermark is of course scarilly easy
@Illamdalt
Жыл бұрын
This would be pretty easy to remove, tho i did see a lot of people forget to remove the watermark and get called out on their BS
@0BucketMask0
Жыл бұрын
Big waterwark covering 80% of the image so they can't crop it like little shits
@lostchron
Жыл бұрын
They actually did this with DALLE-2 which always has a watermark on the bottom right, but that can be easily removed by cropping it out. However, each AI generated image has invisible watermarks, machine learning engineers which are ethical could work on AI art detectors trained on them, but they would need to be very careful on such a model and how it is shared or used, as the detection could also be used to improve a model.
@atsuki-mitsuri
Жыл бұрын
💀 When AI improves furthermore in the near future, we are fucked.
@tg9858
Жыл бұрын
As long as they can’t invent new things we’re not totally screwed
@electrocola9765
Жыл бұрын
Or the opposite is possible if $ex bots will become more advanced. So bad that it is good actually.
@arcsoned1112
Жыл бұрын
@@electrocola9765 uh oh...
@eagletgriff
Жыл бұрын
Ai was a mistake 💀
@pokepumpkin9376
Жыл бұрын
It's the "AI replaces humans"-shit all over again lol
@fotisk-sg2sh
Жыл бұрын
ai "artists" after sitting down in their chair typing words for more than 5 minutes: "I... Can't... Breathe... Lord... WHY DID YOU DO THIS TO ME!?"
@fotisk-sg2sh
5 ай бұрын
@@ThatZenoGuy they don't say the words, they feel like that
@slimeinabox
Жыл бұрын
AI art isn’t art, it’s a generated image. Art requires effort. A Machine can’t put out effort.
@costelinha1867
6 ай бұрын
Art is a form of human expression, AI isn't human, it has no emotions, or anything like that. Therefore it cannot create genuine art. (Also Art, like you said requires actual effort.)
@-PNGMAFIA-
Жыл бұрын
hopefully this is ai art thing just a trend. don't get me wrong, it's cool in theory, and shows how far we've gotten with technology, but if it's being used maliciously, then i'd rather it be gone.
@durd320
Жыл бұрын
unfortunately, it is being used maliciously, diffusion stability or something i dont want to bother naming has actually tried to create a workaround to the copyright law in order to make profit off of the arts the ai created based on copyrighted arts.
@bongus840
Жыл бұрын
It feels like the nft craze all over again. Granted, I don't know if it will end in the same way or at all
@MitridatedCarbon
Жыл бұрын
Honestly i hope so. I mean, in the end all AI art kinda looks the same so if anything look the same people would seek something that looks different. Like you can't eat McDonald everyday. For example I follow a lot of indie heavy metal artists and Lot of them has started using AI art for their cover, to the point I kinda grew uninterested of the cover and stopped checking them. However, I clicked to another band with like 7 views (Pistacia, If anybody is interested) for just the album cover art for how raw/sketchy it looked.
@metausername7195
Жыл бұрын
Nah companies didn't pour all this effort in this just to be a trend. They're already rolling out 3d modelling ai. This is the future, for better or worse
@MitridatedCarbon
Жыл бұрын
@@metausername7195 I just hope it falls down then, like Meta. It would be funny to see like companies putting dangerous amount of money on AI and then having people still liking real artists.
@fangthewarrior
Жыл бұрын
You heard of tracing, you heard of removing watermarks, now there's new method!!
@vermillionz
8 ай бұрын
at least tracing can be used as good stroke and drawing practice as long as its not being shared and removing watermarks just increases the popularity of the original artist if they get called out. ai 'art' garbage is just a shitstorm of a bunch of stolen artwork put together to make something "new".
@lorekeeper685
6 ай бұрын
Tracing is fine Others are not
@usser-505
6 ай бұрын
@@lorekeeper685 well, tracing is not hard. At all. Designing and training a generative model is. So I'm with AI here. At least, it is more hard work than even drawing a painting it will learn from
@lorekeeper685
6 ай бұрын
@@usser-505 why not do tracing than? It's more moral it looks better and it's easier So why use unmoral ugly one? That machine learning causes
@bhaisahab451
2 ай бұрын
@@usser-505 except the fact that YOU are not the one doing it. That's the work of a software engineer, not AI "artists".
@MuseinChaos
5 ай бұрын
Makes me scared to post any of my drawings that could be stolen to fuel these things. I spent years getting this far, not perfect but it’s something, and someone with no practice can type a prompt and end up with a full image in seconds and it’s frustrating.
@The_I_of_the_Angel333
Ай бұрын
Try to poison your artwork with nighshade or use glaze
@dr_doritotf2305
6 ай бұрын
Hey i worked really hard putting in the Konami code of descriptors to get my anime girl to look like existing property 😡
@tokio6332
6 ай бұрын
I love this comment
@naudalyke
Жыл бұрын
it's so funny that there was an anime about this too (well, about music being robot generated) and the same thing ended up happening... people wanted authentic art made by humans after so long.
@shivanik5315
Жыл бұрын
Can you tell me the name of the anime?
@naudalyke
Жыл бұрын
@@shivanik5315 carole & tuesday!
@AshEshyr
Жыл бұрын
@@naudalyke man I totally thought you were gonna say Vivy: fluorite eyes song for a second lmao
@naudalyke
Жыл бұрын
@@AshEshyr 👀 no clue what that is, but I'm interested lol I'll check it out
@Rainjojo
Жыл бұрын
@@naudalyke I love that show!
@severinehedi
Жыл бұрын
AI art is like NFT, made with little to no effort, can be sold for shit ton of money while making the real artists suffer
@GrBiEdits
Жыл бұрын
Wooow.... wait a second. Can you imagine how hard it is to make AI do that? its easier to Just draw. Why Don't you Just shut up bc you Don't know anything about AI and programming.
@ihavenoname7599
Жыл бұрын
Try to make your own program like that. Then tell me how much effort it took
@GrBiEdits
Жыл бұрын
@@ihavenoname7599 I tried and failed bc I am not very good at AI programming. I am Better at games and websites. Also programming AI is one of the hardest things to do in the world.
@ihavenoname7599
Жыл бұрын
@@GrBiEdits Exactly, thank you. We just disproved that making AI doesn't take "little to no effort" and at least programmers actually contribute something useful to the world. Now I'm reconsidering wanting to be a designer- I don't want to be associated with these entitled brats.
@crow9408
Жыл бұрын
@@ihavenoname7599 Bro the ones who made AI are cool and all but the ones we are talking about are the users who use AI to generate images and then sell it.
@theguywhoasked925
Жыл бұрын
I've used ai art generators just to have fun with my own ideas because I have neither the time nor the desire to learn how to draw, but anyone who wants to sell ai generated "art" as art needs to find the nearest volcano and investigate
@SpookyHost
Жыл бұрын
Fr fr,can be good to think of ideas,but once a job or somethin,that shit is just made lazy lmao
@whatdoinamethischannel9749
6 ай бұрын
Every time you generate art using an ai tool, it uses artwork stolen from thousands of artists, over a million pieces of artwork and the ai picks and chooses which best suits the outcome of the request just for you to get your desired image, I’ve seen artists techniques even my own techniques copy pasted to create the smudge known as ai art And I do not care
@cuminthesink
6 ай бұрын
That's wild 💀
@muddashucka9743
Жыл бұрын
The matter is more complex than this, however this is a good example of how AI art generators can be abused.
@Live_Laugh_Loathe
Жыл бұрын
I need Squidward going undercover as Hatsune Miku in my life tbh
@RowdyClouds
2 ай бұрын
The sad part is there's people who actually pay their hard earned cash on shitty art with a belly button on the woman's neck. Patreon is full of these no talent hacks and they actually end up making decent money. Makes me worry for when AI can handle much larger tokens and continue improving.
@fabiansalazar7445
2 ай бұрын
The fact that AI artist are a thing is surprising to me, like bro the AI Is the artist, the AI did all the work not you
@ShinyPrimarina
Жыл бұрын
"I am not asking for your permission" is the most painful part of this video ngl.
@legsdealer8124
Жыл бұрын
Making AI art is like claiming you are a good at math while using a photomath Edit: Yeah with the calculator was a bad example.
@noobatredstone3001
Жыл бұрын
No.. most people who are good at math use calculators.
@ihavenoname7599
Жыл бұрын
Are you dense? Maybe you should've worked on your common sense instead of a useless art degree. Any 8 year old can make better art than you and you're just salty about it. It's time to get a real job.
@Awesoemfella
Жыл бұрын
@@noobatredstone3001 yeah lmao, its a main reason even most upper end maths classes require you to have calculators out and why many tests and shit have calculator sections regardless of skill level. theres likely much better analogies out there but i get your point maybe another one would be claiming you're good at writing stories and shit when you just use talk to transformer or other ai websites or claiming you can speak another language when you use google translate to even be able to say "hello"
@menace21_self63
Жыл бұрын
that's a very bad example, since it's required a lot of the time regardless of your skill level, but i get what you mean...
@MiorAkif
Жыл бұрын
Better example: A.I. art is getting your friend to solve an equation for you.
@Ryltar123
Жыл бұрын
I work as an Artist and we had some dude that joined us.Turned out that he was using AI to "draw" and got the job but was quickly verified by life when he (naturally) wasn't able to do the work when he had to draw something specific or to correct things.Fucking clown.
@cosmic2591
Жыл бұрын
and this is why AI won't replace most creative jobs, lmao
@MASTERCRAFT938
6 ай бұрын
I can't wait until AI makes 80% of people unemployed. I really want to see it happen, because at that point someone might stop and think that they need to regulate that sh*t.
@fritt_wastaken
6 ай бұрын
Yea, capitalism really needs to be regulated, it's absolutely unsustainable in the age of automation
@Red_Shewhart
4 ай бұрын
Someone probably needs to put restrictions on the machinery used on factories as well, since it decreased the number of work hours needed to produce a single product and thus left many people unemployed, right? Let's thank god people like you are not in power to make any decisions and regulations, otherwise we would still be in a stone age.
@0SilentShot0
4 ай бұрын
I cant wait for it either, then these annoying artists selling crayon drawings will have to find an actual job and only the good artists will remain, for everything else there is AI.
@dejanjakobovic9803
2 ай бұрын
AI freeing us from all jobs? Sounds good.
@NatePhan
Жыл бұрын
You have to be a real narcissist to call yourself an artist just because you can enter in a few words into a program. It's like calling yourself a GM at chess just because you're using stockfish. What a joke.
@costelinha1867
6 ай бұрын
In other words, you just have to be Shad from Shadiversity.
@jerrycoob4750
Жыл бұрын
You know what? I’m gonna double down on my art because of this!
@longdarkwing103
Жыл бұрын
THAT' THE RIGHT SPIRIT! YOU CAN DO IT BRO!
@matheussanthiago9685
Жыл бұрын
Same
@blackcrow4446
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but it'll be even more art in the database of those AI so... It don't really solve the problem... (Sorry if it comes off as rude😖🙏)
@dingdong896
Жыл бұрын
The better u r art the better their art
@jerrycoob4750
Жыл бұрын
@@dingdong896 Not if they can't find it ;)
@optccaptain
Жыл бұрын
First NFT and now This, Damn...
@RawkiMtn
Жыл бұрын
This is like someone turning down a 3 Michelin star meal and getting frozen pizza instead because “it was just easier”
@The0Stroy
Жыл бұрын
Maybe. Or maybe just cheaper. It's nice to have 3 Michelin star meal, but it doesn't matter if all you can afford is frozen pizza. Same with commissioning artists and doing stuff with AI.
@justachilldude4356
Жыл бұрын
Everyone : AI art is so good, looks like human artists are getting replaced Ai Art : Is literally just spliced human art
@misterprop9089
Жыл бұрын
Lmao i like that the artists as a coping mechanism decided to make up the fable of the a.i that creates collages.
@nise6699
Жыл бұрын
@@misterprop9089 they could've gone for an actual argument route instead of a shit talk route tbh
@justachilldude4356
Жыл бұрын
@@misterprop9089 Elaborate please, I'm just talking from what I've heard , if it does work differently I'd like to know how
@noobatredstone3001
Жыл бұрын
@@justachilldude4356 It works similarly to people. It analyzes images related to the prompt, and finds patterns. Then, it uses the learnt patterns/relations to create a new image. Basically the same as using references to learn.
@justachilldude4356
Жыл бұрын
@@noobatredstone3001 Source? I tried looking it up to double check but got a completely different explanation that was more in line with the "Splicing" idea. In any case I can see where artists get the idea from
@lollmaonice
Жыл бұрын
here's the truth: you're not an artist, you just commissioned an AI to do what's in your mind. if you think you are then every company that commissions an artist to do what's on their mind is also an artist
@Firefoxes85
Жыл бұрын
“Man, this domino’s pizza is great! I chose all the right toppings! I’m such a great chef 😌”
@domukelis
Жыл бұрын
Funny how you copied a comment to mock people who copy artwork
@Orange_Swirl
Жыл бұрын
@@domukelis Oooh, the irony.
@skeletonemoji
6 ай бұрын
I don't even hate AI arts, it just sounds stupid to me that some people actually claims themselves as "AI Artists" lmao💀
@radamtatum870
Жыл бұрын
Real artist will always be better Because they put effort
@thesteelsquid863
Жыл бұрын
Effort and quality doesn't matter these days. People just care about pumping shit out as fast as possible to make a quick buck.
@LuizDahoraavida
Жыл бұрын
effort doesn't equal value, that's a dated communist concept
@Heliomation
Жыл бұрын
Damn, it really hits hard, not to mention other people saying things like, goodbye artist :3 bruh
@dayjay_alldj7940
5 ай бұрын
Perfect example on how to *NOT* use AI art, since it's supposed to be a tool.
@ennope9005
3 ай бұрын
Late reply ik but A tool for what exactly? Seems to me like it was specifically designed to replace artists who make money through commissions If you wanted it to generate reference images you're better off just searching the internet yourself
@dayjay_alldj7940
3 ай бұрын
@ennope9005 even though AI can generate really impressive images, it will always have difficulty trying to make art as perfect as a human can if it can't even draw hands properly 😅 This is just coming from me, but AI art should be used for inspiration, y'know like instead of imaging it and having a hard time keeping that image in your head, you can see it better on screen and shape it into what you originally want your art to be. You should also mention that you used AI art afterward if you want to share your work because it's better you tell the truth rather than hide the fact you used it because it also shows you have integrity.
@JoyKingMusic
Жыл бұрын
If AI becomes a real deal in the future more and more, then I can say...there will be much much less interest in art and animation becuz those things comes out of real shit of patience, hard work, energy, time, etc. If that AI thing gets on social media and users mis-use it on animations or art stuff...then sadly, there won't be fun anymore. Not only fun, a lot of passion, dreams and imagination will come to an end. It's all over! There will be a social media where art and animations will almost be ignored, even if someone did it without AI.
@eatplastic9133
4 ай бұрын
Naah art isn't so much about how it looks, but what it says, what thoughts, symbols and emotions you portray. Art that just looks good isn't relevant in the long run. Even if the technology evolves to the point that you can just think of a story and everyone can see it in great detail, if the story is trash nobody will be moved and it will be irrelevant.
@xRAINxOFxBLOODx
Жыл бұрын
I've gotta say, though. Using Novel AI has been a great opportunity for drawing practice, because you can draw an image and upload it as a base for the AI, and worry as much or as little about the detail as you like. I haven't shared any AI generated stuff I've "made" publicly yet, and if I do, I'll post it with the base, if there is one, and make it clear it was generated.
@thealliedpowers
Жыл бұрын
don't use the programs period, i emplore you to watch the video in the pinned comment. these ai, with every generation, are being trained to replace us
@cooliostarstache5474
Жыл бұрын
@@thealliedpowers Sounds like a skill issue
@hontilash
Жыл бұрын
@@cooliostarstache5474 for now. and its not really an skill issue. right now, only in novealAI tag on pixiv, you have 50, 000 images. just in 24 days. artist cant post anithing in most tags because those tags are flooded with AI work spitted for secord. in the arg arms behint back, of each 60 work on each page, there are just 3 human made work. its not just "who can make a better image" its, the reality of our works beeing invisible on the sea of AI generated work.
@cooliostarstache5474
Жыл бұрын
@@hontilash the term skill issue is a meme, btw. I wasn't making a serious comment, at least not 100% serious
@jitseki_archive
Жыл бұрын
@@cooliostarstache5474 sometimes it gets really hard for me to not insult people, i hope you have a horrible day and at least improve as a human being
@littlecherryartist
Жыл бұрын
AI art was good when using it as references or just playing around, but then ppl really had to take something cool and turn it into something bad
@Evamme534
19 күн бұрын
I got an advert for an ai image generator before this video. Oh the irony
@liviemillie6455
Жыл бұрын
I am an artist and I also like making ai art for FUN, but I HATE when people try to pass it off as theirs. I was scared when AI art became a thing that people would of course use it to steal art. :(
@WoodlouseFairy
Жыл бұрын
same, i think its fun to experiment with random phrases and words, but i am also someone who does both digital art, traditional art and photography
@sockening
Жыл бұрын
YES!
@Illamdalt
Жыл бұрын
I still remember that time where I used dale-mini to make "Jacksepticeye chasing you with a knife". Those were the good ol' days
@kitten48484
Жыл бұрын
AI art should have stayed in the realm of funny shit posts. I have a person I know in IRL who used AI to make "custom original paintings" and framed them, actually sold them at the flea market and made good money :(
@cingcing3540
Жыл бұрын
thats gonna stop you? Money?really thats the thing that will stop you from the glory of being able to manipulate reality with your own two hands? hey being an artist you should know we do it for the thrill of creation and not for something that will taint your progress. but cant beat them, join em, but thats advice for guys like you. if youre not an artist, oops rip you read through all that.
@ammagon4519
Жыл бұрын
@@cingcing3540 not everyone is a freaking Leonardo Da Vinci, some still need a job and money, "passion" alone will get you nowhere. Since AI "artists" just managed to outsmart real artists, then yeah it sucks lol that crap could get sold in a cheaper way. But hey isn't that how the world works nowadays anyway? For the grind baby
@cingcing3540
Жыл бұрын
@@ammagon4519 cheers
@hontilash
Жыл бұрын
@@cingcing3540 sorry for breaking your bubble, but many will leave art not because they stopped enjoying it, they will leave it because nobody eats love for breakfast. You can argue that you can get another job and still make art as a hobby, and you'd be right, but every artist aspires to make art for a living, as few things are more glorious than living what you love. and that will be the first thing we will lose when AIs make freelancers obsolete, and the only ones who can make a living from it, are those who sell art as a method of money laundering.
@cingcing3540
Жыл бұрын
@@hontilash oops I know, I have some loose wires in my head. Mean like never had much in the first place so it won't change much
@El25444
Жыл бұрын
Artists should just make a Syndicate, even if it's just online to post their artwork, it will prevent not only stealing from techbros and such to use their work to feed an algorithm, but also avoid other problems as people in ebay using their artworks to sell shirts and a big etcetera. Heck, even an art page with a protection clause will work, or even forcing people who make ai "art" to put watermarks on the works generated via AI Edit: seeing how the trend has made "progress" i will risk to say, it maybye will not be necessary, this fashion about "art tech" probably already has a timer on his head.
@pikaa-si9ie
Жыл бұрын
How would you do any of that?
@El25444
Жыл бұрын
@@pikaa-si9ie the problem is where to start, there's some options but they will cost some preparation, time, maybye money and organization. The "association of concept artists" started something similar, but i don't know if they achieved something sustancial, last time i checked they tried to make other pages put protection clauses to some sites, but nothing more i heard. that would be a good advance, even better if sites like artstation, or other art sites could implement that (that doesn't fully stops someone from stealing your art, but it gives you the tools to make them take your work out)
@El25444
Жыл бұрын
update: the syndicate wasn't needed, the concept art organization and a formal lawsuit (aside from a 2008 debate about a monkey picture... yes a monkey selfie saved us) was enough to send this debate to hell, we are winning this.
@chuforeichi
2 ай бұрын
Ai artist: I will also put a watermark on it, you need to credit me to use it, and Im going to write nonesense about my spark of creativity.
@NewPersonBorn
2 ай бұрын
Lmao😭
@mrcandido
2 ай бұрын
Before AI it was very easy to call yourself an artist, now it is getting harder...
@NewPersonBorn
2 ай бұрын
Fact.
@UnbeltedSundew
Жыл бұрын
When I look at Machine Learning generated work it always gives the feeling of deja vu to me, like I've seen it a thousand times before even though I've never seen it.
@SuperSmashDolls
Жыл бұрын
'Cause it's a statistical average of millions of other artworks. Even if you're being honest and ethical with how you *use* the AI, and aren't telling it to deliberately copy a specific work, it'll still look like a Weird Al style parody of whatever you ask for. Especially if you prompt-engineer with terms like "trending on ArtStation" or what have you, which is basically deliberately asking for trend-chasing work. For what it's worth, it is possible to get the AI to spit out stuff that doesn't look like that, but it involves either playing around with textual inversion, fine-tuning, Dreambooth, inpainting, or prompt-engineering. The people who are using AI as another tool in the toolbelt are drowned out by the people using it as a bullshit spam tool.
@UnbeltedSundew
Жыл бұрын
@@SuperSmashDolls Yup. I've seen a few really good results, but they've obviously been touched up by a human hand I think, especially if the eyes are not swirling death abysses that Machine Learning typically makes. But those good ones are like needles in a haystack, that was created by hay chosen by hand out of other even bigger haystacks.
@ignis2638
Жыл бұрын
I like generating AI art, but I always say a AI did it cause duh
@doggycatalan
9 ай бұрын
"SIGH time for another long day of work.." Types a sentence into a program "Another grueling 9-5. Nobody appreciates me!1!1"
@corndogonasticc
6 ай бұрын
It'd be funny if there are actual artists who manage to adopt the stereotypical AI artstyle on some of their traditional artwork on paper as a "im a better bot" to piss them off. Then if they try to feed the art on an AI, they one-up the Ai users by being more of a menace in doing a "much better AI" of the art, and critiquing their way of AI art cause "its not AI enough".
@jorgesaxon3781
6 ай бұрын
I side with artists that AI "artists" are laughably stupid and cringe worthy but please get informed on how AI diffusion models actually work, they don't combine or copy thats not at all how it works and its annoying to hear yall be so painfully uninformed:/
@JacobXavierGurtones
6 ай бұрын
Ai art isn't art, and will never be art. Typing "hatsune miku in a banana suit" will never be art.
@ajdndbdjbdj
5 ай бұрын
The AI is the artist , and what it makes is art, compared to what humans do, it does the exact same thing, you just have no understanding of what you are talking about but there you go sharing your thoughts about it
@JacobXavierGurtones
3 ай бұрын
@@ajdndbdjbdj what do you mean the AI does the same thing that people do? Are you saying that the AI picks up a stylus/paintbrush and then spends countless hours creating the art? Ai just copies the art of random people on the internet to create the ai generated art.
@JacobXavierGurtones
3 ай бұрын
@@ajdndbdjbdj what I meant by "it will never be art" is that the fact it took no effort, time, skill, or money for the ai to create the "art".
@ajdndbdjbdj
3 ай бұрын
@@JacobXavierGurtones does this guy knows? I dont think so, you see, i mentioned something in my original reply about not knowing what you re talking about before sharing your thoughts, guess what, you've done it again
@JacobXavierGurtones
3 ай бұрын
@@ajdndbdjbdj WHAT THE FUCK AM I DOING WRONG????
@generationm2059
Жыл бұрын
I love how people are like: 'Oh noes, AI is going to make human artists obsolete', not even considering that not all artists do art for the benefit of companies or that laws concerning copyright infringement are going to catch up eventually.
@ammagon4519
Жыл бұрын
Yeah but every artist want money lol
@generationm2059
Жыл бұрын
@@ammagon4519 hence the 'not for the benefit of companies'' part
@hontilash
Жыл бұрын
@@generationm2059 i dont make art to companies and i want money, why? coz i dont eat love. i have to be ahble to make a living to do what i enjoy wich its art.
@anerrorhasoccurred8727
Жыл бұрын
The looming threat of automisation is scaring people for good reasons.
@devinward461
Жыл бұрын
@@hontilash Exactly, money isn't a luxury, people need it to survive
@mozgoed78
5 ай бұрын
-please don't do that -I'm already done that
@imnugget8085
Ай бұрын
We can poison a.i art with NightShade
@agihiruda
28 күн бұрын
And then attract only degenerate Twenty to thirtysomethings who always have minors DNI and be only relevant to them.
@_____Neo___
Ай бұрын
God I love the technology behind AI God I hate how humans use it XD
@Mente_Fugaz
Жыл бұрын
I saw some real perfect artworks on ai, and they are still boring, it's like to see a wonderfull lake, but there's no artist to admire or conect. So maybe is reaching its limit, because there's nothing that a machine can do beyond perfection... Hopefully people will get bored about ai at the same speed as the ai evolve. Then artists will rise again
@UnbreakableBird
Жыл бұрын
AI can't make anything with meaning because meaning is a human thing that AI can't get.
@durd320
Жыл бұрын
hopefully, but if the results they generate are above average then we are still fucked, as soon as big companies can exploit ai's then the demand for artists will simply not exist anymore
@Mente_Fugaz
Жыл бұрын
@@durd320 well maybe i think that the key is to create a comunity as an artist.. Maybe in the future companies who uses Ai will be canceled, and some companies will still work with artists just to not afront risks. And the community of an artist always mean extra publishment to the industries.. It will be a shit in everway... but i think there's still hope if you fight, But i suggest you if you are an artist, to learn how to use them.. and find a way to improve you art without loose your style , Artist will be always steps forward against average ai users, Because artists has a trained artist vision
@durd320
Жыл бұрын
@@Mente_Fugaz there are actually protests going on because of ai arts! i cant tell the name because i dont remember it (sorry lol) but i think you can search it up and see if you want to help !
@Mente_Fugaz
Жыл бұрын
@@durd320 yeah.. i think protest will help at least to make big companies have fear to mess it up with the community. I actually sugest to every artist to join the protest... Making our voices to be heard.
@angelqina
Жыл бұрын
let’s not talk about the trending tweets…
@SarkBM
4 ай бұрын
I saw someone saying "calling ai "artists" artists is like calling subway clients cooks" and it's pretty accurate
@notaulgoodman9732
6 ай бұрын
ai artists be like "christopher nolan 4:3 cinematic lens flares oppenheimer bomb nuclear with autumn leaves in sunset, sunset blvd reference top right corner portal light shadow vignette"
@kzyit
Жыл бұрын
The only thing I like to use AI art for is ideas. It meshes a lot of pictures together to make one, and then I can add my own ideas to it, too. I also have refused to get something more advanced, and have been sticking with DALL•E Mini, because I don't want to grow dependent on it. I use the ideas from that, trace it, add new ideas to it, and mesh it until it's a polished work, and then I take that picture and make a character based on it, where it becomes distorted even more. I only do it when I don't have ANY new ideas, too. I wish everyone would use it like that..
@justanub4697
Жыл бұрын
That sounds really nice but yeah people are greedy for the money. It's not about the pursuit of art but the moneh.
@kzyit
Жыл бұрын
@@justanub4697 For me, I never post or sell any of my art, so there's no way for me to make money off of it. I drew my profile picture, though, so you can see that one. I plan to redraw it soon.. Edit: I redrew it! I like this one a lot more, it captures my style better.
@rexanity9452
Жыл бұрын
That is actually it's purpose
@justanub4697
Жыл бұрын
@@rexanity9452 i see, it's certainly being used for malicious ways but since Ai Art is still relatively new, We still haven't set up what's right or wrong, hence why people are arguing since of course people have different opinions about this topic. It's more like a fist fight based on feelings with no winner on one hand one likes innovation on another one likes creativity and freedom.
@eatplastic9133
4 ай бұрын
This is the way it was intended to be used. You are making yourself a favour by it, because if you depend on something to give you ideas all the time, your mind stops coming up with them. Then even if you create stuff with AI it will be devoted of any originality, feeling and thought and it shows
@gachasunny5704
Жыл бұрын
that soo true bc it happened to my friend arts.
@mousely76
6 ай бұрын
Ai art has generously made many of my friends reframe from posting their art online anymore its actually sad that its even a consurn
@MeowsyDancer
Жыл бұрын
But who else is going to make the 150GB of Miku X Squidward that I desire? I can't afford that many commisions
@pokepumpkin9376
Жыл бұрын
While AI is a funny tool to mess around for shits and giggles or helpful to help visualize some things, it's not real art! It didn't "draw" anything by hand, it just generates random mush together that already exists and repruduces stuff poorly (and it also looks very uncanny and creepy). It still baffles me, how people think using AI is the same as picking up a pencil
@durd320
Жыл бұрын
the thing is it can improve, and it definitely will, even without souls or meanings, big companies will always try to make profit off of it as soon as the result is appealing enough to the public that simply doesnt care for artists, or in other words, artists will be replaced by souless machines
@pokepumpkin9376
Жыл бұрын
@@durd320 brings me back to these dystopian sci-fi movies 🥶
@durd320
Жыл бұрын
@@pokepumpkin9376 really disheartening, ive just started taking art seriously for a year or so and all of this happened just for my hopes and dreams to disappear
@thesteelsquid863
Жыл бұрын
Take the art out of artists, and you're only left with ists
@pretzell29653
6 ай бұрын
"So I can feel like special boy"
@Valquill
4 ай бұрын
Not artists, AI prompters!
@agihiruda
3 ай бұрын
Not the Art Commissioners, Greedy and Happy Merchants.
@vj7248
Жыл бұрын
Luckily the ai 'artists' got too cocky and have started spamming their art everywhere. Which ruins the novelty of the 'magic trick' going on.
@Ardeact
4 ай бұрын
I've tried enjoying AI art but I cannot shake the fact the "artwork" feels cold and inhumane. Like it was created by death itself.
@TTurnip
3 ай бұрын
The term AI artist Needs to be renamed to Good describer.
@The_I_of_the_Angel333
Ай бұрын
Some of them are even too lazy to describe and ask chat-gpt to write the prompt 🤭
@mooseoncaffeine
Жыл бұрын
Yesterday some AIArt account followed me and it was so deadly obvious it was AI art since nothing about it was perfect or human, and also they had no followers or traction to the level of skill the art really "showed". I hate AI "artists" with a burning passion. They don't even call themselves AI artists they call themselves artists.
@DaMaster012
5 ай бұрын
People who use AI image generation and call themselves artists is like a child using a calculator to do all their math homework and calling themselves a mathematician. It's like a NEET telling their mom what to make tor dinner and then calling themselves Gordon Ramsey. AI image generation is *nothing* but high-tech plagiarism, and those who use it are nothing more than thieves and weaklings who wish art was as easy as pushing a button on a replicator from Star Trek and magically getting food. Notice that I've been calling it "AI image generation" instead of "art." That's because real art has soul.
@user-hl6no1wv8u
Жыл бұрын
We need Sr Pelo to scream about this. Because THIS IS WRONG SO WRONG EVERYTHING YOU DO IS WRONG *slams the cute table*
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