I've tried both and settled on plumb bob. You definitely need to "calibrate" your putter to determine which angle you should be pointing the putter face in order for that specific putter to be hanging truly plumb. Once found, I place a small yellow paint marker dot on the shaft so it's repeatable every time. There's other videos on how to get this all sorted. I would not use this method unless you take the time to do that.
@juanhunglow2220
6 ай бұрын
Agreed
@sepetisionelatu5539
5 ай бұрын
I think it all depends on the speed at which the ball is being struck. Ben Crenshaw, l love his putting style, etc and so as Jack, Arnold, and Tiger BUT Ben is more of a sweeping taking all the slope kind of putt but the other 3 l think they are more on the attack jamb it in kind of putt lol. l think the majority of putts l confused myself by doing too much rather than just putting according to what my eyes see and the correct speed. Plumb bob is what l prefer.
@Athon08
Жыл бұрын
I think they also use the Stimp speed to vary how far their arm is stretched out as well. That can put your aim point degree off as well
@randyodden5730
Жыл бұрын
Aimpoint took their approach from H. A. Templeton's book "Vector Putting", published in 1984. I am paraphrasing, but basically he says that for an average speed and average sloping green of 2%, at 90 degrees to the fall line, putts will break 2" per pace. He published charts for various speed greens and slopes, you can probably find them online. For amateurs, this is as accurate as you need to be. Anything over 10', odds are you're not going to make the putt anyway. You just want to give it a reasonable chance to fall in.
@benhikingoutdoors1632
Жыл бұрын
Your standing way to far behind the ball for Aimpoint. I dont think you know how to do it correctly 😂😂
@lc-ii9ii
8 ай бұрын
Yeah this was really annoying me. It's literally the reason he was starting the ball too far away from the hole.
@theliftexpert
Жыл бұрын
Aimpoint is deadly accurate ❤ This is a 1 degree putt , you need to put your hand over the ball and use one finger for an accurate aimpoint read . Just saying that this video needs to be redone with a proper aimpoint method.
@FatihPekbas
Жыл бұрын
You are supposed to stay right over the ball when aimpointing. No wonder you saw more break than there was for 10 feet.
@bdorrance1
Жыл бұрын
Agree!
@josephscripture8893
Жыл бұрын
I was about to say that
@J2K2A
Жыл бұрын
Facts.
@brumfiba
Жыл бұрын
My biggest question regarding aimpoint is how the distance of the putt affects the size of ones fingers relative to the hole. For example, 2 fingers on a 10 footer and 2 fingers on a 40 footer are going to be drastically different given how far you are from the hole.
@weldo1948
Жыл бұрын
The two fingers does affect the amount of the read from different lengths of putts. At the same cross slope the putt will break more on the 40’ putt than the 10’ putt. The angle of the read remains the same but the farther the putt the distance above the hole increases.
@ricblic901
Жыл бұрын
When I putt I use the aim point method to see how the green breaks and where that break is. I look at the grass until I see a line. I need to use pace to get the ball to the break the green will do the rest. Always putt the shortest distance and that's to the break.
@Tognar
Жыл бұрын
Love ya man, but you’re butchering aim point technique.
@visarma9673
Жыл бұрын
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@kmsnow6292
Жыл бұрын
I see Adam Scott do this a lot during the round and I had no idea. Now I know. Thanks.
@Yair.M.N
Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry but this is not correct. For Aimpoint system you have to stand right OVER the ball, not 10 feet behind, that's why it gives you too much break. And for Plumb technique you have to hold the putter with the OPPOSITE hand to your dominant eye.
@dzaino1986
Жыл бұрын
Matt, I believe the system also has a factor built in for speed of the greens by moving your fingers closer or further away from your eyes. This would affectively change your break point by your field of view. I'll stick with laying on the ground and checking every blade of grass for the grain. Much faster :)
@Gigity1107
Жыл бұрын
I have the same issue with aimpoint. I just don't feel the break in my feet. Even had a putting lesson with the local pro and he was telling me he could feel 2° etc, me nothing. Another method he suggested though was to stand alongside the line, facing it. So you're effectivley standing facking the line. So you can feel the slope from your toes to heels. I found this slightly better, but still not as good as the plumbob for me.
@76MUTiger
11 ай бұрын
You train your feet to feel and calibrate that break through practice. I bought a level measured in percent of slope (the correct measure). You put it down, guess the break you feel, and look at the digital number. You do this over and over. You do it regularly to check your calibration (say, once a month). Easy peesey.
@FJA4709
Жыл бұрын
I like the plumb bob method the best. Great video!
@danpotts5083
Жыл бұрын
And the most recent Golf Digest has an article by an expert putting instructor talking about why plumb-bobbing isn’t very useful.
@Mike-wv2pn
Жыл бұрын
I am a visually impaired golfer so I rely on my feet and my coach to help with the read of the green. But it really works have dropped in some long putts with the read I do.
@Revellien
8 ай бұрын
I use Plumb Bob to show me which way that the break is moving as sometimes it’s difficult to see the break but surely it is imperative to calibrate the putter for Plumb Bobbing to find where its true vertical hang is? Given that most green slopes are 1% or less (ie the subtle ones) then the ball will move 2-4” per foot of putt - speed of green + speed of putt dependant. So work out the direction of break, look at length of putt and multiply by 2!! So a 10’ foot putt (for most amateurs surely a high 10’ conversion rate is nirvana) on a slope will usually require 20” of aim outside the hole. If it’s more than 1% the slope is really obvious & not subtle requiring a greater distance of offset aim. When i first started using this method I could not believe how far outside the hole I was aiming on a 1% estimation and but the results were amazing. This also means that for a massively high % of putts from 18” and inside, there is no need to start the ball off on a line outside the hole.
@Alces561
Жыл бұрын
Usually love the content. Unfortunately it shows you didn’t do your homework when it comes to AimPoint. I would suggest at least watching AimPoint express before trying to explain it.
@apokalypz08
Жыл бұрын
I just walk up behind ball, squat and read it. Like Tiger says, just putt to the picture. Don't over complicate it. Make sure to spend at least 10min at the practice green for a course before the round, b/c no other way to really get a good feel for speed. And if its a cheap public muni, then greens may plaly different so you may want to spend some time at first green with some extra putts to get a more accurate feel for the course cutt vs what they had at the practice green.
@johnrowell3583
Жыл бұрын
If you're going to compare aimpoint to something else, you need to understand how to do aimpoint! Too many misunderstandings here on aimpoint I'm afraid.
@kevray5858
Жыл бұрын
yep you have to stand over the ball not 10 feet behind the ball using aimpoint and stimp speed by moving arm forward or back , i use both as a tool it will give you an idear
@scottzimmerman5182
Жыл бұрын
The most important part of plumb bob is you can find with pretty good certainty where the straight putt is. Then, you can determine where you are in the 360 degree circle relative to the straight fall line. I think of it like a clock face. You don't have to worry about whether it is 9:30 versus 10:00 because more slope will change the hang of the putter and show you more (or less) break. Then, you just have to match up your preferred speed to the line that the plumb bob is showing you. Is generally 1/3, 1/2, maybe 2/3rds of the distance (for me). I will add 1/2 more break on greens with a lot of slope or that are running very fast (downhill)-- and then cut the distance by about 1/4. That is a "safety" putt that should die somewhere around the hole if you miss. Plumb bob has its limitations: on greens that undulate a lot, you have to just read close to the hole and figure out what the last 10 feet or so do. Otherwise, you are standing on the wrong slope and won't get and accurate read. Also, you have to alway read with your dominant eye, and you need to determine how your putter hangs so that its vertical. You can compare it to a vertical line like a door jamb and find the vertical hang. I put a dot on my grip with a silver sharpie that faces me when my putter hangs vertical. And, I know how far to rotate if I want to read down the right side of the putter versus the left. All and all, plumb bob is pretty easy and fast to use, and gives you a pretty accurate read line that with a bit of experience and adjustment, you will have a read and speed. I just carry a small note card that has 7:00, 8:00,. 9:00, 10:00 and 11:00. Obviously, on side of the clock is a mirror of the other. That's it: 5 or 6 reads / speeds, and a few notes if the greens get fast or have lots of slope.
@OTGAuGres
Жыл бұрын
How many pros use neither? Just curious.
@klientastic
6 ай бұрын
Bro!! You walking up and counting off feet of the putt while describing aimpoint was game changing right now! Gosh I’m an idiot!!
@MrKillahippo
Жыл бұрын
It's all gestimation,, Local knowledge is the best system. on straight putts my ball would always go right of the hole, a pro showed me how to work out the dominate eye and at what degree. once I saw my right eye had 2* right aim, I just aimed 2* left for a straight putt. dropped 2-3 more putts on my course.
@BrianLewis-f4d
2 ай бұрын
HI Matt, I'm just now watching this episode. In general, I agree with your assessments, in that there are a lot of caveats, such as finger width, putter shaft, etc. I'm a bit incredulous that one can accurately measure slope differences with their legs. Secondly, one needs an accurate speed determination as well. So I'm not sure that either method is accurate at all. Why? Because both methods in a sense have a speed already "set" for that particular aim point. What speed is that? Beats me. I was taught the opposite way. Calibrate your putts on the practice green and then read breaks by eye and adjust speed accordingly. But I digress...
@Charzander570
Жыл бұрын
Hold your putter up to something plump like a door jamb. Rotate your putter shaft in your fingers to the putter shaft is in line with the door jamb
@8dragonsx
5 ай бұрын
Would be great to see you redo this video using a Stimpmeter rather than a putter so as to remove a variable from the test
@aaronjolly2337
Жыл бұрын
Dad gum 1 hour into posting and everyone telling you youre doing it wrong. Epic fail 🤣
@scottysize
Жыл бұрын
I like to feel the slope with my feet to verify what I"m seeing with my plumb bob. So I will walk the line pacing off the steps and then divide by 3. I will straddle the hole and straddle my ball. Then I go through my routine. It works for me?
@Bassbaby838
Жыл бұрын
Matt, I’m sure with the plumb Bob you’d previously used your opposite arm to your dominant eye to get the line?
@galemurphy4914
Жыл бұрын
I recall this as well in an earlier video. This video does a much better job of describing and showing the plumb Bob method. So kudos for that.
@mlobitz
Жыл бұрын
much easier to use the level function on your phone to get a value for degrees of slope.
@zacharysbrennan5376
10 ай бұрын
good video. i like using plum bob
@johnbell1374
7 ай бұрын
With all due respect...this will probably create more slow play on public courses....but ur instruction is comprehensive.
@76MUTiger
11 ай бұрын
Matt, you say slope is measured in degrees. Not so. It's measured in percent of slope. Get a little level that gives a digital readout. Walk around the practice green. Put the level down. Guess the slope. Look at the digital readout. Do this over and over, anywhere on the green. You can easily stay out of people's way. You adapt to green speed by bringing your fingers close to your eye. Faster greens have more break, so fingers move closer to you. Some pros will have marks on their putter shafts to calibrate how far the fingers should be from their eye for a particular Stimp speed, such as 13 (e.g. put the putter head on the right shoulder. Put your fingers on the 13 mark on your shaft. Now you know.).
@fritzbeiswenger-ws7yk
Жыл бұрын
Better to subscribe to and view the aim point video which will give you the true method. It’s not degrees of slope it’s % slope and you read is way off because you lined up the putt way behind the ball.
@BullishBananaTrader
Жыл бұрын
I just lay down like Camilo Villegas. Inb4 amateur golfers will have the 4 foot levels out on the course now.
@Alan1michel
22 күн бұрын
Go watch golf sidekick video on it. Very well done
@Rome1031
Жыл бұрын
Wow, Aim point potentially slows down the game and adds footprints to the greens😢 We should all give Aimpoint the finger😂
@bronsonmcnulty1110
Жыл бұрын
i would give it 2 fingers , one for each hand ....
@golfspeed5559
Жыл бұрын
I hope you have done a certified aim point course because it looked like a mess your example
@keithpanco
Жыл бұрын
I use aimpoint without the feet. If I see a slope I just give it one finger, and two for a bigger slope. Gets me real close most of the time.
@totallynotjaxon6365
Жыл бұрын
Can you please review mistwood golf club in Illinois it is one of the top public golf courses!!
@ottawapop
Жыл бұрын
I spent an hour practicing plumb bob, the math can’t work. Lining up behind you ball will always produce the same alignment regardless of the slope. The practice green we have is 70% a sloped flat plane ( really stupid). Didn’t matter where I was the reading it was always the same from any angle because you’re always aligning the same thing.
@johnrowell3583
Жыл бұрын
In other words, if you line up putter over ball to hole, it will always line up as if a straight putt? This is what I found doing it myself. I don't understand how plumb bob works.
@ottawapop
Жыл бұрын
@@johnrowell3583 exactly. If you line up behind the ball with a laser, the laser runs through the two holes regardless of the slope of the green. If someone could please explain what I’m not getting, I’d appreciate it because I’d really like this to work.
@johnrowell3583
Жыл бұрын
@@ottawapop Thanks for the reply. So yeah, I have the same issue and I just don't get it. Would love to understand what I'm missing.
@chrisschuster9423
Жыл бұрын
8:25 also… you should use some kind of pendulum putt device for consistent exact force.. no offense, but your putt force will vary despite your clear skills..
@kwaste
Жыл бұрын
Hey Matt I think the folks we play with around here in California would be hitting into to you. Basically saying get moving guys, we got a lot more to do today. Like drink beer and get high.
@MrBlueleon
Жыл бұрын
before you plumbob you find the balance point of your putter , you line up that point on the putetr shaft with your ball when holding the putter vertical 👍
@ottawapop
Жыл бұрын
How can that matter if the shaft is plumb?
@MrBlueleon
Жыл бұрын
because the angle will change if you line up with different points on the putter and for consitant slope reading its better to always use the same refference point🤷♂and it works better-simple@@ottawapop
@ottawapop
Жыл бұрын
@@MrBlueleon I’ll get back to another comment I made further up the thread. Align a laser from behind the ball to the hole.Regardless of the slope, the line will always be straight just like a plumb bob on the laser line. I can’t see any way possible that the shaft will all of a sudden read 12” off due to slope.
@MrBlueleon
Жыл бұрын
@@ottawapop do what you do and I’ll do what I do it’s called golf ⛳️
@thedeeprot
Жыл бұрын
Love it as always matey! 🔥
@clintonstumpf5210
Жыл бұрын
Plumbob. Aim point is way to much homework.
@rayviola9444
Жыл бұрын
Can you do more vids on plumbob
@seegarsmkr
Жыл бұрын
The way I was taught AimPoint is to be up to the ball with my heels on each side of the ball when you use your fingers.
@thomaslahr9022
Жыл бұрын
How about us weekenders just eyeball it and keep pace of play at four hours.
@nicktopinoplus8393
Жыл бұрын
Never understood how plumb bob worked. This makes more sense.
@greghrice
Жыл бұрын
Incorrect Aim Point demo. He aimed from well behind the ball where’s as AimPoint aiming with 1-5 fingers is to be sited from standing AT the ball. This also explains why his erroneous AimPoint measurements were too wide. He also is not good at Plumb Bob
@malachi2371
Жыл бұрын
In your first video on Plum bombing, you would hold the putter with the opposite hand of your dominant eye… On this one you use the same side… Why the difference?
@MarkSweeney-q6k
Жыл бұрын
You get too much break because you have absolutely no idea what you’re doing.
@mike1wmike1w
10 ай бұрын
Over the past two years I have enjoyed watching your videos and have implemented a number of your tips into my game. However, I was very disappointed with the “AimPoint vs Plumb Bob video”, these are two very different, very difficult skills to master. Within just a few minutes into the video it was obvious that you don’t use either one of them and have only scratched the surface on how to properly use them. This past year I have put both methods to the test on and off the course. I am self taught by reading books, articles watching videos and then testing these ideas and as with everything on the internet a lot of information is just not correct. Just this year my putting has improved significantly using the AimPoint Method and it does not take me a lot of time on the green to determine the line. Plumb Bob seems to work best with putts of 15-feet or less with a single break and that is taking three readings and not just one as shown on your video. So at the end of the day don’t just throw some mud on the wall concerning these subjects and hope that something sticks for your viewers. Take some time and really put the two methods to the test with the correct setup and correct implementation. Then I think your viewers would like another video entitled “AimPoint Vs Plumb Bob Part 2”. Keep up the good work and great videos.
@grantbaben4016
Жыл бұрын
lame point vs spongue bob?
@joeidaho5938
3 ай бұрын
Never seen someone plumb bob aim....even as a carpenter....lol.
@nickcharli1025
Жыл бұрын
Hahahah dead at this. Hammering putts saying it’s off
@rm00k
Жыл бұрын
Of course neither method tells you how hard to hit it! There are many breaks, depending on your speed.
@kavanpyle1352
Жыл бұрын
Tumi the plumb bob is more about feel
@kavanpyle1352
Жыл бұрын
2 mi
@Rich-ey7jv
Жыл бұрын
I'm an okay putter, I just eyeball it. If I try AimPoint, I just get too stiff and come up way short.
@ralfliebhaber3543
Жыл бұрын
You must stand at the ball. If you stand way behind the ball you aim to much away from the target.
@par5611
Жыл бұрын
You stand AT the ball and aim, NOT 5 feet behind it. Aim point only works if done correctly. I think you are making way to difficult.
@ellisboys78
Жыл бұрын
Very useful video. Thanks for sharing!
@steveleak9497
Жыл бұрын
Hi Matt having used aimpoint you are doing it wrong , when you put your fingers up you need to be standing astride your ball not that far behind as you are adding distance to the putt and therefore break . Love your videos “normally “ ?…
@jamesreynolds4220
Жыл бұрын
If I were an aspiring pro, I might try to learn aimpoint. As a 74 year old amateur, I'm way too lazy to learn a system that complicated. I like plumb-bob for those putts that are difficult to determine whether or not there's a small break. Big breaks require lots of practice which leads us to intuitive feel. I hate to see too many feet around the hole. Seeing a caddy doing aimpoint on t.v. upsets me, should be banned. More feet around the hole mean more missed short putts, and perhaps long putts as well. If you are putting for bogey or more, miss it quick and get off the green.
@gaviscon999
8 ай бұрын
You’re supposed to take the reading with your fingers at the ball not 10 feet behind it
@calvindebeverly7410
Жыл бұрын
This plumb-bob method makes no sense! You say cover the left side of the ball but you don't way what you are aiming at. The video is too blurry to see what you are aiming at. I could stand on the other side of the ball and do the same thing you did but the putt would be going in the oposite direction from the cup to use an extreme example. What did I miss?
@chuckyz2
Жыл бұрын
The best putters that ever played this game used neither of these methods. They walked around the line looking at it from all angles. I do it that way. I also look at the green as I am driving up or walking up to it. If there any type of building in the distance, you know that the roof line is level and can use that to help you see the break. If someone steps on my line using aim point I will get pissed. Not just annoyed. With my method, you can do it without being forced to stand in certain spot. You can back off and still see it. I can see the break better looking at it from the sides. Seeing if it is up hill or down. Example. I will bend down behind the ball first and catch a look. I will then walk down the right side 5 or so feet away and stop a few times and look to see if it is up or down. If the slope is coming toward me, the ball will too. It will break right. The I catch a look from behind the hole back towards the ball then walk back to the ball on the other side of the line. For me, the uphill reads are more accurate. It will usually look like a little break looking uphill and straight looking down hill. I just split the difference favoring the uphill read a little. I am always checking myself looking at things I know are level for self calibration. It's a rabbit hole and there are a lot of elements at play. Like your ball. Is it level? Have you ever got a perfect read and hit down the same line at the same speed only to see the ball break differently than the one you just watched. Happens all the time. It's the balls gentlemen. Salt float them and you will see what I am talking about. You can test a hole box of new balls, even high end balls, and get imbalances all over the board. Even if yours are all hand picked with perfect balance, you opponents are not. You can only get a general idea of the break getting a read. Trust what you see when you read the green, if you have a good skills reading it. And learn from it. Then after a long time intuition will kick in. Your subconscious mind sees more than you ever will. Because there are a lot of factors you just can't see. Aim point and plumb bob are just a few. They only read the section you check. You need to learn to read the entire line. Don't waist your time with those methods. Walk around the line and read it from all directions. Train yourself to see it. Watch Tiger when he was in his prime. Watch Jack in his.
@fredeisen7401
5 ай бұрын
plumb bob
@rolfjongde7385
Жыл бұрын
Boven de bal staan, hoe verder de put dan veranderd de afstand en niet de aantal vingers
@randyharrison27
Ай бұрын
Plump Bob/aiming point - come on don’t slow play by doing all that, just spit in the wind & have a good excuse if you missed the putt my ride has arrived. I’m out of here.
@WarrenVanWyck15
5 ай бұрын
Plumb Bob was a fad. It went away. AimPoint is the new fad. It will go away. Just read the green normal, my friends. It saves time, is less annoying, and it is better overall. And if you don't think so, please view the list of the best Tour Pro putters and see which ones of those use AimPoint.
@markrobinson5654
Жыл бұрын
This was an AWESOME video....as you say, " love you guys "....Well I speak for us all, We LOVE YOU 2
@khamkenchanh2735
Жыл бұрын
Hi Matt. I'm not a big fan of either one cos I believe a couple of guys in my group are playing way too slow already 😁 but it's good to know why guys on tour are using them. For me, I just like the walking around the hole and most of the time I don't even do that and it's much faster. I hate to say that after the pga tour player uses one of the techniques here, and they still missed most of the time but at least they're putting for lots of $$$ where my is only for burgers or hot dogs 😂. Thanks for sharing!!
@jaredshearsgolf
Жыл бұрын
Skilled AimPointers can read their putt in under 30 seconds.
@samjohnston61
Жыл бұрын
You are standing too far behind ball for aim point.....finger should be near ball
@34dawgsgo
3 ай бұрын
This hacker says Plumb Bob!!!
@nic6754
5 ай бұрын
That was lots of info and very appreciated, as always, cool vids. Personally I like to simplify it. Pick your line and prey to God, Jesus's, buhda and Allah 😂
@georgeshaughnessy
Жыл бұрын
You just added 30 minutes to the group behind you.
@rikclarke4881
Жыл бұрын
Neither.
@perrythorvig6446
Жыл бұрын
Slows down play. Disallow.
@bosullivan5462
11 ай бұрын
Aimpoint is just slowing down golf,,,,
@akistolt114
Ай бұрын
Huomaa ettei tiedä mistä puhuu
@badboydave4509
Жыл бұрын
aim point sucks
@benhikingoutdoors1632
Жыл бұрын
Maybe cause you dont know how to correctly do it? Like SG said, it does take time to practice it. Cant just do it once and then shit on it when it didnt work. I started last year and my putting has improved tremendously. Its not a guarantee but it helps reading
@greggreenlee5679
Жыл бұрын
Why don't you try to make the game so slow...no wonder people are quitting golf....stuff like this...slow slow slow...just hit it and move on...PLEASE!!
@luispantin1
5 ай бұрын
Please, delete this video. You have no clue about Aimpoint. Even what you explained about how to apply the technique is not right. To all viewers he is not right. Just will mentioned couple things that clearly show that you have never ever took a “Aimpoint Class or Session”. First, Aimpoint does NOT mesure inclination in “DEGREES” it measures slope in “porcentage” yes in %. Second, for double breaks put there is a methodology to determine how much this type of puts breaks, and the methodology works perfectly. Moreover, in this video you putt more than 20/30 puts without making any. I could make a long list about all false misleading explanations about either Aimpoint and Plum Bob… just one more, no player in any tour use Plumb Bob because one simple thing… is does NOT work… as simple as that… the last one, Aimpoint is the most accurate method tho putt today. Please, attend to a class of Aimpoint URGENTLY… and after post a new video. OMG… all Golf Gods are going crazy with this video. Go to this link and find and instructor close to you and URGENTLY book a lesson immediately… PLEASE… do it.
@jimrozelle9673
Жыл бұрын
Aim point has way too many additional variables. The average golfer already has enough putting struggles.
@cgoodson1438
Жыл бұрын
Anything that slows the game is bad for the game and this seems to accomplish that.
@fatlittleparasite
Жыл бұрын
Overthinking.. Overanalyzing.. Separates the body from the mind
@danpotts5083
Жыл бұрын
You really should remove this video since you are demonstrating the Aimpoint method incorrectly. You are standing way too far behind your ball, your feet are too far apart when feeling the slope, and there are other nuisances you aren’t demonstrating (double breaks and finger thickness are covered in the Aimpoint training). Ultimately, you are hurting the business of the fellow who developed and sells Aimpoint training. Lastly, it now makes me doubt the other instruction you provide.
@mister.wizard
Жыл бұрын
Great topic Matt! A couple of things regarding AimPoint as I took an AimPoint class here in South Florida. My instructor had me do things even differently than what you will typically see. To make judging the slope easier he had us visually look at the slope to determine right to left or left to right. Then he had us always stand with our heels on the down direction in the line of the putt where the biggest break is to figure the degree of slope. That way you get the “feel” faster on different degree slopes and you can more easily remember what a 1 degree, 2 degree, 3 degree slope feels like. Then you have to stand over your ball (not way back like you were). He then had us using our fingers held toward us instead of the way you traditionally see AimPoint done, of your fingers away from you (come here vs. stay away). You outstretch your arm in towards you (very close with bent elbow) if the greens are fast (so your fingers appear bigger) or more away from you if the greens are slower (fingers appear smaller). I use AimPoint quite a bit (as the more you use it, the better you get the feel of it). Then of course is you have execute to putt at your target and you must putt the correct distance. He said to always try to putt to get just past the hole or you won’t have a chance to get it in the hole. Another thing is if you feel that the slope might be 1 and a half degrees, then simply cross one finger partially over the other (pointer and middle finger) to give you the AimPoint off of the (as always) the flagstick. Works for me! In addition you should practice how far you need to take the club back to make a 5 ft., 10 ft., 15 ft. putt so you know to learn to hit those distances regularly. Could be a could subject for you to cover on one of your upcoming great videos!
@barwick11
10 ай бұрын
Agreed on the distance standing back. You've got to be standing with toes next to the ball with aimpoint. Otherwise it's going to be way off.
@andresb31406
8 ай бұрын
What does “had us always stand with our heels on the down direction in the line of the putt” mean? Can you describe this in a different way or more in depth please thank you
@mister.wizard
8 ай бұрын
For example, if you see the green is slopping right to left (where the right side is higher), then he would have us stand on the line of the putt facing right, so that our heels would be in the down position. That way you could feel the amount of pressure of the slope on your heels to do your measure of slope (1 or 2 or 3). I hope that explains it better for you.
@andresb31406
8 ай бұрын
@@mister.wizard thank you
@mister.wizard
8 ай бұрын
You're welcome
@davidcosten4722
Жыл бұрын
I normally like your content but you’re actually trashing Aimpoint. You obviously have never taken an Aimpoint class because slopes aren’t read in degrees, they’re read in percentages which cannot be measured using a torpedo level like you’re using in this video. Also, when you take an Aimpoint class you learn how to calculate the capture speed, finger size has nothing to do with it. In my experience, Aimpoint is a very accurate way to read putts and by far the best method I’ve used in my many decades of playing this great game. Plumb bobbing is an extremely flawed method for reading putts because the putter must be held perfectly plumb which is very difficult to do with a putter head that is offset from the shaft making it not want to hang plumb to start with. Plumb bobbing, in my opinion, is nothing but green reading quackery! There’s a very good reason more and more PGA Tour professionals are using Aimpoint as time passes, it works! I’ve personally taken Aimpoint Express 1 & 2 and it’s the best money I’ve ever spent on golf. The lowest my previous handicap had ever been was 7 and now it’s 3, putting is finally a strength instead of a detriment to my playing ability. Maybe you should take a class and learn how to really use the Aimpoint system instead of your theorized version, it will very likely change your mind.
@amp4240
Жыл бұрын
Matt, I've purchased the AimPoint system and use it (and re-study it) regularly. I think that you unfortunately did it a big disservice by misrepresenting how it works. As other have said, you were standing too far behind the ball when you measured the target. Distance to the hole dictates where you measure the angle of break (sometimes at more then one location). Based on how far it looked you were, you should have stood and measured halfway to the hole, not right at the hole. There are also clear instructions for taking into account green speed and double (triple, etc) breaking putts; both of which you inferred weren't part of AimPoint. I'm a longtime subscriber and am usually smashing that like button, but unfortunately I had to give you a 👎 on this video.
@TimHeizer
Жыл бұрын
100% been doing aimpoint for years. You need to calibrate to the speed of the greens. I read putts very quickly with aimpoint and the statement about footprints around the hole is laughable. Works great for me and I make a lot of putts. But I put the work into understanding the system and I’m pretty tuned into the feel and use half percent increments all the time. Like anything in golf, one method doesn’t work for everyone.
@beaston18
Жыл бұрын
The real benefit of any green reading methods is having some kind of a read that you trust to make a confident stroke. If you don't trust your read, most golfers will tend to make a crappy stroke. Find one that works for you, and learn to do it quickly!
@PilatesGuy1
Жыл бұрын
👍👍⛳⛳Great subject. Thanks. I practice and use both methods. Learned Aim Point about 2 years ago. Overall, I usually have better results with Aim Point - often amazing results. I find ways so neither method slows us up. I detest slow golf. I used mainly Aim Point yesterday morning at wonderful Columbia GC in Minneapolis - we played 9 holes in 1' 20". Less putts takes less time. Plumb bobbing your 3rd putt doesn't help pace of play.
@mikebass2700
Жыл бұрын
I use the plumb bob method because it's fairly accurate and quicker. First, calibrate your putter by using a door jamb in your house. All putters are going to hang differently depending on the head shape. Holding it lightly in your fingers slowly rotate/twist the putter until the shaft is parallel to the jamb. Once you see that it is vertical, put a small mark on the putter grip facing you. You now have a vertical putter shaft for your plumb bob. Great topic for a vlog Matt!!!
@daytrader2694
Жыл бұрын
Charzander has it figured out below, but I find it most convenient to hold my putter up to an outside corner of a building or a straight communications tower every time I play. Rotate the putter until the putter shaft matches the straight line. Use that putter head angle for the day. I'm a hobby woodworker, and am always checking lumber for straightness. I've watched putts that broke three inches and the person hitting the putt said "look at that, it didn't break at all". Speed is more important than line to me. If I've got the green speed down, then I'll really try to tighten up on my line.
@lazy_dad
Жыл бұрын
when you use aimpoint, you stand at your ball to do the fingers. so in your examples, you over read by standing too far back! also, aimpoint uses percentage of slope, not degrees. so 1%, 2% and so on. to learn properly you can use a level app on your phone and drop it on the ground to check the slope percentage on the practice green. when you use aimpoint correctly, it's amazing. you will see more tour pros use it in the future. when i play casual rounds and it's a bit slow i use both to make sure my reads are correct. i would love to see you learn a bit more about aimpoint and then do this video again correctly.
@Jmo1290
Жыл бұрын
He did both of these incorrectly lol
@DanL50
Жыл бұрын
When picking your starting line for the putt, the AimPoint method calls for you to stand over the ball when holding up your fingers. However, you appeared to stand 6’-10’ behind the ball, which will over-read the break, since the farther back you stand, the more break your fingers will indicate. The correct method is to stand over the ball.
@benhikingoutdoors1632
Жыл бұрын
I noticed that too. He wasn't even doing it correctly 😂😂
@OliverSallander
Жыл бұрын
actually depends, if you are playing on a higher stimp you need to stand a little behind the ball to compensate.
@DanL50
Жыл бұрын
AimPoint says you adjust the bend in your elbow for faster greens … and still stand over the ball. The method does require calibration for “today’s” green speed.
@benhikingoutdoors1632
Жыл бұрын
@@OliverSallander I dont think standing 8'-10' behind the ball in the video is correct. Ive always understood you stand over the ball.
@OliverSallander
Жыл бұрын
@@benhikingoutdoors1632 yeah thats way to far behind the ball.
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