There's a few more things I forgot to mention in the video: For FreeForm's airing of the special, their print contains audio from the old Classic Media Blu-ray releases. This is evident by the fact that in the Silver and Gold song, the "for" in "everyone wishes for silver and gold" was cut out. This is odd considering that the audio is correct on the Deluxe Edition Blu-ray and DVD, which the FreeForm print is based on. This is also an issue on the digital release of the 2022 4K version, despite it being correct on the actual discs. Also Rankin/Bass historian, Rick Goldschmidt (who runs Miser Bros Press), claimed to own a copy of the original ending in full color. He's tried contacting NBCUniversal to see if they could put it in the next home video release. Not only that, but a planned Rankin/Bass documentary was going to feature footage of the full color original ending, but it ultimately went unreleased due to lack of funding and permission from NBCUniversal. I don't know what's stopping Rick from releasing it on KZitem or Internet Archive, but I digress.
@shortshaker9236
11 ай бұрын
Great video! The official home media releases is definitely my go to way to watch Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer. I would have to say that the best home media release of Rudolph in my personal opinion would have to be the new 2022 4K remastered version that was released on 4K Ultra HD and on the recent complete Rankin/Bass Christmas Collection Blu-ray set. The picture is more sharper, the colors are corrected and overall it's best way to watch Rudolph in my opinion.
@AndrewsMagicandMore
11 ай бұрын
The 4K remaster has a very minor frame blending glitch during Santa's "Jingle Jingle Jingle" song number (it occurs when Santa wraps his jingle bells around Rudolph only for Rudolph to lose his balance).
@KingLaneCreations
11 ай бұрын
@@AndrewsMagicandMore That is true, however my copy of the 2002 DVD also has this "frame blending glitch". So it's actually nothing new.
@UrLocalSplatoonFanGuy
11 ай бұрын
What about on the newly released complete Rankin/Bass Christmas collection Blu-Ray?
@KingLaneCreations
11 ай бұрын
The Blu-ray version of The Complete Rankin/Bass Christmas Collection uses the 4K restoration for Rudolph. The DVD version from last year used the 2018 Deluxe Edition.
@heythatskyle14
3 ай бұрын
The 1965 Version Of Santa Yelling Merry christmas scared the living shit out of me when i was little
@hunterolaughlin
11 ай бұрын
I think the addition of Santa arriving to pick up the Misfit Toys and the montage of them being dropped off Santa’s sleigh during the credits was a smart one as it gives a more satisfying conclusion to the Misfit Toys’ story, where without it, the aforementioned toys just become one-scene wonder characters without much impact or importance to the plot.
@KingLaneCreations
11 ай бұрын
I 100% agree with you.
@lorelaimorace-kk1xz
6 ай бұрын
@@KingLaneCreations THEY FINALLY GET TO GO HOME WERE THEY BELONG love the fellow misfits
@powerpup97
10 ай бұрын
I can actually confirm that the scene with Donner setting out to find Rudolph was cut (or rather edited down). I remember having an 80's airing of the special recorded off of TV, and when I got an official VHS copy of it some years later, I noticed it was a little longer with Donner saying, "No! This is man's work!", which was new to me.
@jasonregina13
11 ай бұрын
That retake of Santa's 'MERRRRY CHRISTMAS!' line-read creeped me out as a kid as well.
@gmanley1
4 ай бұрын
15:28 I remember watching Rudolph on CBS back in 2022.
@itsjayden8002
11 ай бұрын
Every Christmas when I watch this special, I always watch the crusty, low quality DVD. The reason I do that is because the crust, grain and other natural film elements adds an extra layer of nostalgia that I also heavily associate with other really old things I grew up on like classic MGM, WB & HB cartoons.
@Impactjunky
10 ай бұрын
@itsjayden8002 Then maybe you might wanna start watching my simulated vintage CBS Rankin/Bass Christmas Special. I purposefully used the most accurate and complete versions of them I could find, but I also specifically avoided the versions that were abnormally clear and pristine to get that classic TV look. I also put some great vintage commercials in the ad breaks for nostalgia too. It's been really popular lately with just over 1.1 million views so evidently a lot of people like it.
@BarbaraMistina-zw6ku
4 ай бұрын
I can agree Santa does sound creepy. He sounds like an animal screaming in pain, and I think the original cut does sound great
@BluesCluesTheWigglesFTW
11 ай бұрын
Given that the special WILL BE 60 years old next year and that NBCUniversal NOW owns the rights to the pre-1974 Rankin/Bass library (the deal was made 2 YEARS after the 50th Anniversary release so i can see why it isn't released). SURELY the colorized version of the initial airing CAN BE released as a special 60th anniversary Blu-ray/4K Ultra/DVD edition of the special with MORE unreleased Rudolph materials (if there IS one at least)
@KingLaneCreations
11 ай бұрын
I feel like the only way we'll be able to see all that stuff happen is if Rick Goldschmidt was involved. But knowing his behavior, I wouldn't blame Universal for not wanting to work with him.
@heythatskyle14
3 ай бұрын
Now that I think of it, now that NBC universal owns it if sprout still existed it could probably air on there
@BluesCluesTheWigglesFTW
3 ай бұрын
@@heythatskyle14 that would be the case if it didn't completely rebrand the channel to Universal Kids
@jasonregina13
3 ай бұрын
@@KingLaneCreationsWhat behavior?
@christabelle__
10 ай бұрын
I have NEVER seen the peppermint mine scene! That DOES explain a lot! That, and I never knew the misfit song was removed for a while, I'm so glad I've always known that version! That's a longtime favorite of mine. Now to see if I can find the full version online...
@NiGHTSfreak235
10 ай бұрын
I remember even as a kid I noticed the TV broadcast of this special was altered a bit. Coz I remember at school, I don't remember what grade I was in, but the teacher played this special for us on the TV through either a DVD or VHS, I can't remember, but then coincidentally later that night the same special would broadcast on TV, and I remember being so confused at the Misfits song, coz I wondered what happened to that one scene where Hermie punched that snowman version of his boss in the face.
@Impactjunky
10 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for posting this and the original one too! I used them to help make sure I used the most complete and accurate version of Rudolph I could find for my simulated vintage CBS Rankin/Bass Christmas Special.
@Hovergoat_Guy
10 ай бұрын
I came here from discovering that "Fame and Fortune" existed in the first place. Now I'm tempted to check out the Freeform airing. How did that 2005 onward one EVER go to air? That editing with the Misfits song over Fame and Fortune's animation is frankly inexcusable if you ask me.
@ManAndDogFan
10 ай бұрын
Well, Freeform has the misfit song, not fame and fortune (thankfully). Freeform’s airing is perfect. I agree, CBS’s airing sucks. It’s crazy to think that CBS has been airing this version for 18 years
@KCandFriendsUSA
10 ай бұрын
@@ManAndDogFanFreeform cut out the film’s namesake song
@ManAndDogFan
10 ай бұрын
@@KCandFriendsUSAif you mean the credits imo the credits aren’t really a big deal to skip out. I would rather have the full original film than a highly edited version with credits
@loganmcnab1582
2 ай бұрын
As noticed, we are a couple of misfits was replaced by a new song called Damon Fortune
@Sydney2010.
11 ай бұрын
The 1965 take of Merry Christmas was honestly a little creepy to me too, so it ain’t just you. Then again, we’re both on the spectrum
@jasonregina13
11 ай бұрын
Up until last year, I totally forgot about that creepier line read. For the past decade, I was more used to the original less creepier edit. Then when I bought the 4K disc last year, I was silly enough to select the 2.0 English option and oh boy was I in for a rude awakening at the end. 😨😨😨
@ManAndDogFan
10 ай бұрын
Don’t worry, it’s not just you I think I it’s creepy too
@superjackster0165
10 ай бұрын
@@jasonregina13Thank god they brought back the original recording of the line
@ManAndDogFan
10 ай бұрын
@@superjackster0165fr
@Frnk_3
5 ай бұрын
I think it is too, just VERY unsettling.
@courtneyvincent2427
5 ай бұрын
I watched it on CBS and I remember the Yukon Cornelius scene and Santa's lower shout of Merry Christmas
@mindyhousel4251
4 ай бұрын
also lane for this christmas can you do all changes to frosty returns with the fhe release and the cbs airing please
@davidwestreynolds
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this very interesting study of a holiday classic. Your close look helps me get even more enjoyment out of a film I have loved for many years.
@LogoAttitude
10 ай бұрын
After this season, CBS should trade broadcast rights to Rudolph and Frosty (along with Frosty Returns) to NBC in exchange for broadcast and cable rights to It's a Wonderful Life. This would reflect corporate ownership. The Rudolph and Frosty specials are owned by DreamWorks Animation, a sister company to NBC, while It's a Wonderful Life is owned by Paramount Pictures, a sister company to CBS.
@SodorTrain1225
10 ай бұрын
I find the second take 1965 very fitting, as it's more energetic.
@superjackster0165
10 ай бұрын
I get where you're coming from. But I feel like the take they used in the original version (that's also used on current home media releases) worked way better. In in the original take, you can really hear the wind howling and Santa's voice sounds very echoey when he says "Merry Christmas". It really sells the impression that he's up there high in the sky
@SodorTrain1225
10 ай бұрын
@@superjackster0165 Huh! I never noticed that! You've got a good ear!
@superjackster0165
10 ай бұрын
@@SodorTrain1225 I took a film sound editing class when I was in college. So I'm good at catching all those little details
@superjackster0165
10 ай бұрын
I agree with how you thought the 1965 version of Santa saying “Merry Christmas” sounds creepy. I’m so glad that they brought back the original of it. I’m very curious on where the 1965 version of the line came from. Did they randomly decide to pitch up the audio of the line to be higher? Or was that just an alternate take that the actor had recorded? What’s interesting is that this change only occurs when Santa says “Merry Christmas” the second time. When he says it the first time, it uses the exact same audio that was in the original version
@KingLaneCreations
10 ай бұрын
I assume it was just an alternate take.
@superjackster0165
10 ай бұрын
@@KingLaneCreations Probably. It makes me wonder why they decided to use an alternate take for the 1965 version. Even then, why did they only use an alternate take for when Santa said "Merry Christmas" the second time but kept the original take of when he said it the first time
@vonniebeth
10 ай бұрын
I wanted to watch Frosty and Rudolph on Freeform last year and was met with Life Size 2 instead because the cable company I use blocked them from playing. I was very disappointed. At least I was still able to watch The Year Without a Santa Claus because that one is my favorite Rankin/Bass special.
@KingLaneCreations
10 ай бұрын
I also love The Year Without a Santa Claus.
@jenniferlewis7994
10 ай бұрын
Not the DVD menu selection theme music jumpscare at the end!!! Lol
@courtneyvincent2427
10 ай бұрын
I saw that "We Are Santa's Elves" scene on CBS
@D.W.Granata
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, but the musical bridge has been edited out.
@feliciteacup
10 ай бұрын
christmas eve 2019 my dad made me go to my uncle's house, and i didn't wanna be forced to interact with family, so i sat alone in my cousin's room watching the freeform cut of rudolph for the first time. i remember freaking out when they played the full unedited misfits song, and freaking out even more when they showed the yukon peppermint mine scene. it was like so shocking to me that they were actually airing that on tv
@UrLocalSplatoonFanGuy
11 ай бұрын
Lane, have you seen any of the Dreamworks holiday specials? you know, Shrek the Halls, Merry Madagascar, Kung Fu Panda Holiday, Dragons gift of the Night Fury, ect? or even The Penguins in a Christmas Caper or Donkey's Caroling Christmas-Tacular? those were some of my favorite Christmas specials to watch over the holidays. even more than the Rankin/Bass ones!
@KingLaneCreations
11 ай бұрын
Shrek the Halls and Merry Madagascar mainly. I might've seen Penguins Christmas Caper and Donkeys Caroling on Netflix a few times.
@christopherwesterberg8555
10 ай бұрын
I love Watching Rudolph The Red Nosed Reindeer Every Year on CBS
@ohyeagirl1111
10 ай бұрын
The peppermint mine scene is so important for cannon for the Island of Misfit Toys early 2000s movie
@paulbroxon4626
10 ай бұрын
I also remember the general electric commercials that features the characters at that time. Wish thay would put them on a DVD as a special feature. I did find them on KZitem.
@nathancruz9172
10 ай бұрын
6:55 I’m glad I saw this good ending from Rudolph.
@SpongeDan
10 ай бұрын
The higher pitch in the 1990s airings may be because of it being sourced from a UK print as they pitch things up
@Mikey5-O
8 ай бұрын
@KingLaneCreations so If I understand correctly, the best version out of all was the CBS version from 1998?
@mrvgsdoesstuff
10 ай бұрын
Every time when "misfits" was being spoken, I keep thinking of the band Misfits.
@WillCWilson
11 ай бұрын
You made a mistake Lane; the 1998 Golden Books VHS release still used the 65 version; the restoration wouldn't appear on home media until 1999, when it was rereleased by Golden Books Family Entertainment on VHS and for the first time on DVD.
@AndrewsMagicandMore
11 ай бұрын
Right. BTW I have that barebones 1999 DVD (cover is the same as the first Golden Books edition on VHS which has an odd render of Rudy himself)
@KingLaneCreations
11 ай бұрын
Really? I once grew up watching the 1998 tape, and that one used the original version minus the ending. I personally don't think I made a mistake, however I would love to see proof that the 1998 tapes did in fact use the 65 version.
@vm4kbdopenings121
11 ай бұрын
@@AndrewsMagicandMorehow dose the 1999 DVD look like
@AndrewsMagicandMore
11 ай бұрын
@@vm4kbdopenings121if you mean the DVD overall, the menu screens are similar to the 2000 DVD; the version of the film like the 2000 DVD has a bit of a warmer color palate and after the special ends there's a special credit sequence referencing the Golden Books restorations of the Rankin Bass specials (said credit sequence was also attached to the ends of "Frosty the Snowman", "The Little Drummer Boy", and "Santa Claus is Comin to Town")
@WillCWilson
11 ай бұрын
@@KingLaneCreations It's not too hard to find proof; look on KZitem or the Internet Archive for the opening/closing to the 1998 and 99 releases, or in the case of internet archive, full uploads of the tapes in question. Plus, the Golden Books Family Entertainment Christmas Video trailers were changed in visuals, music and narration in 1998 and in 1999. The 1998 version has the unrestored footage, and an orchestral instrumental of "Holly Jolly Christmas" from the 60's Rudolph Soundtrack album, and the 1999 version has the restored footage, as well as the music used for the Rudolph DVD menu as the background music.
@Psyclonus7
7 ай бұрын
What about the Bumble wearing a polka dot handkerchief at the end because he had a toothache all along? I remember seeing that as well as many other people but there's no footage to be found
@Cartoonnetworkrulz
11 ай бұрын
My favorite special
@FloofPuppy
10 ай бұрын
I actually remember watching the version with the "Fame and Fortune" segment instead of "Misfits" on a Pink vhs box of Rudolph!
@thedinobros1218
10 ай бұрын
8:45 I am on the spectrum too but I don’t think it is creepy, it is just dumb that they re-recorded it.
@superjackster0165
9 ай бұрын
I don't think they re-recorded it. I think, for an unknown reason, they just used a different take that the actor had recorded during the original production
@zxccxz164
9 ай бұрын
isn't there a COMPLETE version with EVERYTHING in it??
@lorelaimorace-kk1xz
10 ай бұрын
i'm glad they got the misfit toys
@DanielLave25280
11 ай бұрын
Nice Job Talking About the Changes But I am Kinda Curious Of Why CBS Choose To Change Were A Couple Of Misfits In the 2005 and Later Broadcasts (Talking about that Weird Frankenstein Edit They Did)? Did The Footage Of It Disorted or Can't Work In HD Please Someone Tell Universal To Give The Freeform Version To CBS Please
@ginabrooks3401
10 ай бұрын
So glad to find this. I swear I going through a Mandella Effect!
@thechillydogtrain
11 ай бұрын
Sadly, Freeform is not on the spectrum cable due to money and stuff from Disney
@aspieangel1988
10 ай бұрын
It’s on Hulu. Hulu has everything.
@zebart
10 ай бұрын
Starting In the 90's older re-runs were sped up so they fit more commercials in their time slot. Especially when TNT used to show their MGM /WB / Hanna-Barbera library
@55twintv39
9 ай бұрын
13:58 Four was at least.
@robertlauncher
10 ай бұрын
I grew up with a vhs including Fame and Fortune. It was so confusing to see the original later. I also prefer Misfits, though.
@Tricob1974
10 ай бұрын
Ah, you weren't the only person to notice the sped-up, higher-pitched versions of those video uploads. I'll tell you exactly what's going on here. There's the genuine bitrate - the bitrate that the video is *supposed* to be played ... the bitrate that the video was recorded. But then, there's the current playback rate ... the one used in KZitem. If you increase the current playback rate *without* updating the file, the speed of the video playback will increase, and the pitch of the sounds will increase as well. We still see this in modern KZitem times ... even affecting some mainstream videos of The Smurfs. Check out those 12-minute, 11-minute episodes that are inexplicably reduced to 10 and a half minutes; that's what's going on; the playrate rate is higher than the bitrate the video was recorded in.
@ethanrocket430
10 ай бұрын
15:14 salt truck
@SmallSpoonBrigade
10 ай бұрын
They don't still air the 1961 version of Babes in Toyland?
@55twintv39
9 ай бұрын
6:58 It probably is.
@MF-zj3zl
10 ай бұрын
Not sure if this has been mentioned here or in previous version: look at the Island of Misfit Toys and Final Credits and you only see 6 reindeer plus Rudolph. There are supposed to be 8 reindeer plus Rudolph. Who was left out?
@angelcaldwell4190
9 ай бұрын
I noticed that too! I heard somewhere that they had 6 other reindeer rather than 8 because the puppets were expensive to make and they had a tight budget.
@angelcaldwell4190
9 ай бұрын
I noticed that too! I heard somewhere that they had 6 other reindeer rather than 8 because the puppets were expensive to make and they had a tight budget.
@ManAndDogFan
9 ай бұрын
Donner and Comet are missing. Donner stayed behind so Rudolph could be the lead reindeer and Comet was disqualified because of him not letting Rudolph join the reindeer games
@kevinrogers5767
10 ай бұрын
Why did Yukon's snowsuit turn green from the original blue?
@KingLaneCreations
10 ай бұрын
That was a change exclusively seen on home video releases, hence why I didn't mention it in this video. From what I remember, Classic Media thought his clothes were meant to be green back when they restored the film in 2007. Even though his suit was always meant to be blue judging by images of the promotional puppet and full color printed ads. However, they changed it back to blue in 2014 for the 50th anniversary Blu-ray release. All future releases of Rudolph since then have the correct blue suit.
@D.W.Granata
5 ай бұрын
His suit was changed back to Aqua on 4K.
@presto709
10 ай бұрын
Interestingly, none of the misfit toys were actually misfits. The jack in the box was named Charlie but who would know? The elephant had spots, that's cute. The squirt gun worked fine just fill it with water instead of jelly. And then we learn from the credit scene that the bird actually could fly. I guess the boat was kind of a misfit but I think lots of toy boats aren't actually made for the water. Or maybe it learned to float.
@dylanmanf6427
10 ай бұрын
What’s the best possible version of Rudolph to get on home media? I don’t have it yet, but I want to get it soon.
@KingLaneCreations
10 ай бұрын
From my personal experience, I would choose the 2022 4K Ultra HD release for both Blu-ray and 4K. For DVD, I like the Golden Books/Classic Media releases from 2000-2002 the best.
@davidwestreynolds
10 ай бұрын
@@KingLaneCreationsThanks for the recommendation!
@FUGP72
10 ай бұрын
Do you really not know why there were scenes cut for the 80s versions and beyond? Because in the 60s, there was 50 minutes of programming and 10 minutes of commercials per hour. In the 70s, that would have been cut to 48 programming, 12 commercials. And in the 80s, just 44 minutes of programming and 16 minutes of commercials. These days, it would be 40-42 minutes of programming and 18-20 minutes of commercials.
@jeremyriley1238
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, DVD is the best way to see this classic, even if they have flaws.
@DavidPrisby
10 ай бұрын
There is no such person as a memo
@chrismcgovern1647
10 ай бұрын
Great job with this, you do great research with the differences in each cut of the special. But I do need to let you know the snowman narrator voiced by Burl Ives is not Santa. They are different characters. I mean, they both have white beards and everything, but I just wanted you to know, thanks. Great stuff tho!
@KingLaneCreations
10 ай бұрын
I must've accidentally called Sam, Santa, at some point while recording.
@ManAndDogFan
10 ай бұрын
You did. 13:54@@KingLaneCreations
@superjackster0165
10 ай бұрын
@@ManAndDogFan Funny story, when I saw the special as a kid, I thought he said "Call Me Santa" when he introduced himself. I found it interesting that a snowman was named Santa. Later on, when I listened to the audio more carefully and realized that he actually said "Call me SAM". Once I heard that, I was immediately like "Oh, his name is Sam. That makes way more sense"
@ManAndDogFan
10 ай бұрын
Lol, kinda like how a lot of people mistake Hermey’s name to be Herbie. Some merchandise even has his name labeled as Herbie even though it’s Hermey@@superjackster0165
@superjackster0165
10 ай бұрын
@@ManAndDogFanAt one point in the special, I think one of the characters accidentally refers to him as “Herbie”
@Jokelben493
10 ай бұрын
I was born in 1996
@Sonicboy06Dylan
10 ай бұрын
Cool video well good to know that you are autistic I’m also autistic aswell
@youtubetrash3196
10 ай бұрын
I don’t like the Fame and Fortune song
@ManAndDogFan
10 ай бұрын
Same. I always loved the misfit song, I found a 1992 recording on KZitem, and before I knew about the song change, I was so confused
@55twintv39
10 ай бұрын
Why not just watch the first original broadcast?
@ManAndDogFan
10 ай бұрын
From 1964? If that’s what you mean, it’s no longer available, but it’s the full original movie just without Santa picking up the misfit toys at the end
@55twintv39
10 ай бұрын
@@ManAndDogFan How come it’s no longer available?
@ManAndDogFan
10 ай бұрын
Tv doesn’t air that version anymore. But Freeforms is the closest to it, just with the misfit toy ending @@55twintv39
@superjackster0165
10 ай бұрын
@@ManAndDogFanSame with Home Video. Ever since 1998, every home video release of Rudolph features the original 1964 version of the special but with the 1965 ending
@55twintv39
9 ай бұрын
@@superjackster0165 I see. Well the. Just watch the 1998 version then.
@zxccxz164
9 ай бұрын
the cbs nbc logos are current, you should have used logos of the time
@80sDisneyFan
11 ай бұрын
15:14 Where is that from lol.
@KingLaneCreations
11 ай бұрын
The Late Show with Stephen Colbert kzitem.info/news/bejne/0qeCyo6ErGqdmII
@55twintv39
9 ай бұрын
13:54 Sam.
@RyanCoppedge
10 ай бұрын
do more leapfrog
@williamhaynes4800
11 ай бұрын
I enjoyed your post but you did not address something that's been troubling me. In the Peppermint scene. As the sleigh is lifting off, Rudolph's parents and Clarisse are watching from the ground and Donner is bragging about his boy. However, in an earlier scene, Santa tells Rudolph that he will never get his sleigh off the ground without his father; who is trapped in the Abominable's cave along with his mother and Clarisse.
@KingLaneCreations
11 ай бұрын
I speculate that Rudolph probably took his dad's place after accepting to guide Santa's sleigh.
@curtthegamer934
10 ай бұрын
Yeah, Rudolph took Donner's place that year, and Comet was disqualified for kicking Rudolph out of the reindeer games
@nicolecampos39
11 ай бұрын
The End
@EricYTP
10 ай бұрын
The elf killed the swimming bird out of revenge for two reasons: 1. The elf was unhappy because he had to relive the year prior to deliver it. 2. It was the first reject toy the elf made and he got a long beating for it, so he backhanded that thing out of the sleigh. You also can't trust anybody involved with the film when they say "the bird learned to fly", considering that they forgot to resolve the story arc. 😊
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