"we do not recruit Wardens out of pity" I think the Hero of Ferelden would disagree with you, Stroud
@davidsindler5336
7 жыл бұрын
Well, Duncan wouldn't conscript HoF if (s)he didn't show (s)he strong and competent. Straud doesn't really know if Bethany is worthy at the time he meets her.
@TheRevanSentinel
6 жыл бұрын
David Šindler Duncan was also the Warden-Commander of Ferelden, so he had a bit more leeway.
@michamcv.1846
5 жыл бұрын
thats only your hero^^
@victorhugo3952
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, no. All origins of the HoF proved themselves to Duncan
@yang6642
5 жыл бұрын
Victor Hugo Once you pick your origin, the rest of them die
@finvaly
Жыл бұрын
My favorite Dragon Age companion. Among the sassy mages and controversial elves with troubled past, it's so good to have a little sunshine. And she's so brave and strong, despite hiding all her life.
@Malon2006
8 жыл бұрын
I could never have Bethany killed like that, I just couldn't choose that option.
@Nor1998_
3 жыл бұрын
This is why KZitem exists. For people who have the stones to do it to record and post it online for us who don't have the stones.
@Katzykeens
2 жыл бұрын
She's such a good sister. She liked all my jokes. ;m; too bad I'm a mage through and through
@Mikito456
6 жыл бұрын
Wow seeing her brother murder mages almost brings poor Beth to tears. Really puts it into perspective.
@s-094cam5
6 жыл бұрын
Every time somebody threatened Bethany I went rude, crude, vulgar and violent. Hawke gets too much shit thrown his/her way.
@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyer
2 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest pro points for siding with the templars is being able to call Orsino out on his dealings with Quentin. It’s even a revelation for Bethany. Otherwise it kinda just falls under the table as a side note.
@adambridson8817
10 жыл бұрын
I had no idea that a mage grey warden was related to Hawke, it's a shame the warden won't appear in Inquisition it would have made an interesting conversation.
@Just_a-guy
3 жыл бұрын
Made them related to inqi human aand we will have another altair family to shape the world as they want :D
@baroncross3060
2 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to play as the warden again in a new dragon age game. Kinda like playing with shepherd in mass effect
@FinalFForeva
11 жыл бұрын
Bethany really does hate being a member of the Wardens. It's decided! She's never going to become one!
@beverlyarcher546
3 жыл бұрын
Bethany circle carver grey warden they are happier in those roles
@gamingmysticist6641
3 жыл бұрын
Bethany hates being in the circle as well...I kept her a warden cus Orsino killed her mother....at least Carver is a dutiful brother and him being in the order gives story lines
@bbhohahabook3391
3 жыл бұрын
@@gamingmysticist6641 Did Orsino kill her mother? When? Oo
@vitoriosouto02
2 жыл бұрын
@@bbhohahabook3391 Orsino was Quentin's mentor on necromancy. Orsino basically gave him the tools and reasons to kill Leandra.
@squares4u
2 жыл бұрын
@@gamingmysticist6641 I don’t think she’s that unhappy at the circle. Maybe at first yes, but she grows to like it there. Bethany isn’t a person searching for some great purpose like Carver is, and she dislikes fighting, so it makes sense that being a grey warden makes her exhausted and angry at the world.
@RuneAddySte
11 жыл бұрын
they were thinking "how can the player be a dick to a sibling"
@RamekGreen
3 жыл бұрын
2:37 Imagining Gamlen as a slave to a Tevinter magister is just hilarious lmao
@mayamellissa
8 жыл бұрын
God damn I love Bethany
@ElMarcoHoJ
4 жыл бұрын
Welp, never letting Bethany become a Warden ever again.
@Katzykeens
2 жыл бұрын
HOW COULD ANYONE LET MEREDITH DO THAT TO HER? BETHANY JUST WANTED PEACE IM SO UPSET 😭
@livingdeadfitness1528
4 жыл бұрын
I know she's just a character, but I think Beth is attractive. I kinda want to play Dragon Age 2 again partially cause of her lol.
@Dark_Voice
25 күн бұрын
If I could romance Bethany, I would. Damn the fact shes my sister, she is the only woman of value. She is better than Aveline, Merrill and Isabella combined.
@leoncoben6983
4 жыл бұрын
I really hope Bethany comes back as a companion and romance option in future games. Which would mean Carver too though. Still I hope that eventually there'll be conditional companions based on previous game desisions like Kieran as a special God Mage or the child of the Hero of Ferelden with their chosen love interest. Imagine the Chantry's reaction to Lelian's child if she was Divine or their potential interaction with their half-sibling.
@squares4u
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t see it happening because there are too many variables for what happens to her/Carver. Are they killed on the way out of Lothering? Do they die of the taint in the Deep Roads, or are they saved by Anders to become Grey Wardens? If not, is Bethany part of the circle / Carver a Templar? Do you allow Meredith to kill Bethany during the final quest? I think all future companions and romance options will be either new characters or returning characters that cannot leave or die (like Varric)
@leoncoben6983
2 жыл бұрын
@@squares4u Well whether they die or not in Lothering is dependent on Hawke's class but it wouldn't be too difficult to add them based on 2 conditions: Are they alive or dead and whether they were a Warden or Templar/Mage. That's it. Hawke's Warden contact criteria is pretty similar in terms of whether or not The Warden's companion is alive AND whether or not that companion is still with the Wardens. But I do realize the Warden Contacts aren't companions in Inquisition and have a set purpose in the game and say the same thing regardless of your choices. All they'd have to do to add the Hawke Twins however in future games as companions is just if they're alive or not and then change their personality and dialogue depending on their faction. Where they die wouldn't really matter it's only whether they did die. With the Dragon Age Keep, it's very easy to implement that, they don't even need to add anything since the Keep already tracks their status and alignment.
@morganrakes4184
2 жыл бұрын
I only feel it won’t happen because default Hawke is typically displayed as a mage in meaning Bethany dies in his story.
@leoncoben6983
2 жыл бұрын
@@morganrakes4184 Yeah and Alistair is typically seen as the King of Ferelden in the comics yet that is player decided as well.
@volourn9764
Жыл бұрын
@@morganrakes4184 There is no default Hawke.
@barraki92reborn
11 жыл бұрын
Out of all the women in Dragon Age 2, why did Bethany have to be the most attractive one? I mean granted when I saw all the female characters leaked before the game was released and I saw that Bethany's not romance-able because she's in fact your sister in game, I had to curse out loud. The same thing happened to me again when I was playing Lucas in Dungeon Siege 3, only to find out that Katharine is my stepsister in game. *Flips a table*
@horsenuggets1018
3 жыл бұрын
What are u doing step bro?
@beverlyarcher546
3 жыл бұрын
Well you can romance step sibling in reality as your not related unless their your cousin one of my friends family was that they were step sibs and cousins the parents not related I do believe they are related through the parents that didn't marry don't remember it was explained to me over 12 years all ik is the older 2 sibs were the mothers the middle 2 sibs were the father's and then they both had a daughter making them have a half sib
@ciarancooper394
3 жыл бұрын
Low key if you think Bethany is the most attractive I think you have basic taste.
@josephpercy8772
2 жыл бұрын
Isabela
@orchidofkhalida
2 жыл бұрын
@@ciarancooper394 Bethany is not basic, she’s supposed to be a simple girl who’s scared of Templar’s thrown into a greater destiny against her will
@ErnolDawnbringer
2 ай бұрын
Lol never felt a video game character like a sister except her. character writing and voice acting combined well
@victoriasharpe1661
4 жыл бұрын
Bethany is so lucky. A family loved her enough to protect her and keep her safe. Quite alot of the time, especially in origins, in regards to mages, you hear of their parents being distant, calling them abominations, especially Jowans backstory. The only unique parents that don't turn them away like they don't love them anymore, is Isolde and Arl Eamon, and Bethanys parents. Even more so with Bethany though because her father actually trained her. So it's probably assumed she was better trained than a circle mage by that point. She was very lucky indeed and I hate that you have to be a non mage in order to have Bethany on your team. Shame there's no mod for it either, none that I can find anyway
@Hjalmar_an_Craite
4 жыл бұрын
Eamon didn't know Connor was a mage, Isolde hid it from him since he would send the boy to the circle and mages cannot inherit titles and lands.
@EmoBearRights
4 жыл бұрын
In one of the origins you meet a mage Finn who was supported by his parents and received letters from them. Alain wrote to his parents it wasn't their fault his letters were thrown in the fire. Ella was supported by her parents.
@channel45853
Жыл бұрын
@@EmoBearRights why were the letter thrown into a fire?
@EmoBearRights
Жыл бұрын
@@channel45853 We don't know except Ser Karras is a dick and they didn't like he was telling the truth about how he was being treated.
@NusradMucahid11
3 ай бұрын
There is a mod for it. Only that it lets you keep both Carver and Bethany in your game, no matter if you play melee or mage Hawke. I used it and let Bethany taken to the Circle while Carver becomes Warden. It sure made things interesting.
@huggywuggy3247
4 жыл бұрын
8:49 "I used to wish I had just been taken by the Circle, like our cousins. *I could have been the Hero of Ferelden* " Yeah-yeah, and after the joining, she keeps complaining all the time and blaming Hawke for her life. No Bethany, my Amell warden wouldn't let you take her place.
@illogicalstuff6099
4 жыл бұрын
Lol so true. I felt guilty when I opted to save her life by making her a Gray Warden :P
@coraline3767
2 жыл бұрын
@@illogicalstuff6099 What would you feel guilty for? As if its your desition only. Bethany was also agreed with that desition, or she could dicide death otherwise. Shes is not a baby, she can speak for herself.
@ADL21
4 жыл бұрын
Oh nah, anyone that makes a move toward Bethany Hawke dies.
@ArcaneTuber
8 жыл бұрын
They gave the players the option to let Meredith kill Bethany, why not give us the option to kill Carver too? it's not fair...
@theemperor3497
8 жыл бұрын
Because Bethany is a mage and Carver is not a mage. Remember, Meredith hates mages, old blonde bitch her.
@SeventhheavenDK
3 жыл бұрын
@@theemperor3497 . Yeah, but when siding with Mages there should be an option to kill Carver in battle.
@volourn9764
Жыл бұрын
Orsino: Stay Strong Also Orsino: I helped kill your mother, and I'm so weak I'll become a literal abomination and try to murder fellow mages. What a piece of garbage.
@josephpercy8772
11 жыл бұрын
So the only question I have right now is this: is it better to leave Bethany behind during the expedition and have her join the Circle, or to bring her and have her become a Grey Warden.
@grelly_chan8401
4 жыл бұрын
she's happier in the circle. Carver is better as a warden
@miloradowicz
2 жыл бұрын
I left her in the Circle all the while thinking that I'd break her out at the earliest opportunity. But somehow ten years has passed.
@blegh336
11 жыл бұрын
I prefer Carver's side really. Its just more interesting to me personally.
@al27mr
9 жыл бұрын
For me the worst thing to achieve Platinum on this game was to side with Templars... eish...
@Shadowhunterbg
8 жыл бұрын
+Álvaro Maurício Nope. I sided with the templars and i feel like the good guy. I stand with the people not with the blood mages. People often side with those weak minded mages without seeing the big picture. Siding with the mages is worse.
@Shadowhunterbg
8 жыл бұрын
Álvaro Maurício No, its nothing like that. More likely its like all islamic people have bombs in them and you make sure that they wont use them. Yes. Not all will blow themselves but people wont take that chance to risk innocent lives. Unlike people with bombs, the power of mages can't be taken away. But it can be limited. Mages are in the Circle because of what they can do and not for what they believe in. Besides... the mages in Kirkwall didn't do anything to show me that they are strong and will not use blood magic. It was the other way around. On the streets, beneath the city, around the city blood mages, blood magic everywhere. Even your mother falls pray to a blood mage. Grace becomes a blood mage to kill you. People enthralled by blood mages walk the streets at night trying to kill you too. A blood mage almost made you slit your throat. Anders is an abomination even Merril is a blood mage. From where do you think all those random blood mages come from? From outside the city? Yea like a blood mage would want to come to Kirkwall with those templars... They came from the Circle itself. With a First enchanter that tolerated blood magic and even that kills his fellow mages during the Annulment to fuel his blood ritual and with a thin veil over the city that made mages even more willing to use blood magic do you honestly think that the Circle was not corrupted? All the facts show otherwise. As the champion and protector i will not turn my back on the people of Kirkwall or risk even more the lives of my companions in a Last stand siding with a side that is more smaller and weaker only because of a "maybe they are innocent". The facts state the opposite. Meredith was crazy sure, but i didn't support her. I supported order and safety for the city while you protected the mages only because of your own "moral" and baseless assumptions that they are innocent. Orsino lied to you many times. Why wouldn't he lie to you that the Circle is innocent? Sometimes you need to think with your head. Not with your heart. I saved some mages that surrendered peacefully so in the end i did the right thing. You say that the mages are innocent? Tell me why do you think that?
@Javitomanzano
8 жыл бұрын
+Hurlock alpha Constant vigilance, lots of pressure, extreme punishments, templars abusing their position, the Rite of Tranquility imposed to anyone that "might" be a bit rebellious. Even some of the templars agreed that Kirwall Circle was too harsh. Put people in a extreme situation and they will resort to extreme means. Yes, magic can be dangerous and mages should be trained (by mages) to avoid stuff like Connor being posessed. Yes, templars may be necessary to deal with rogue mages. No, I don't think constant vigilance and lack of freedom is the best environment to train mages, specially when you cut them off their families. No, I don't think feed instigate fear against magic or mages is a good idea, specially in a medieval, illiterate world. "Magic is to serve man", right? In that I agree but that turned out to be in "mages are to serve the Chantry and those who refuse must be haunted and killed". Remember, they are still people.
@Shadowhunterbg
8 жыл бұрын
Javitomanzano I remember this too well. I know that they are still people and that's the problem. People are greedy, jealous, power hungry, vengeful. Even if a mage is trained that doesn't mean that he won't resort to blood magic to better his position in life. If a mage outside the Circle goes hungry, threatened by bandits, goes desperate because a loved one died i ASSURE YOU he will probably resort to blood magic to satisfy his needs. And if that happens, if a blood mage lives outside the Circle in secret how will he be tracked down? He can control people, manipulate kings and queens with unholy magic, he can enthrall anyone. Quentin was a strong mage, he was trained and that didn't stop him from killing women for his experiments. Or the mages in Inquisition... They were free, outside of the Circle and because they were threatened by bandits they summoned a pride demon to "protect" them... Do you see how much responsibility they lack? The templar and Circle system must exist. Of course many mages that are strong willed, who will never use blood magic will be wrongly put in the Circle but that's because there is no way to distinguish the good ones from the bad ones. In Origins Jowan assured me that he never used blood magic and i really believed him. In the end he betrayed me. He lied to me. I was a fool. Anders was a skilled mage but his ignorance allowed him to be possessed by a spirit that later became a demon. In the end Anders became an abomination. I never liked what Meredith did and in my opinion any templar who tranquils a mage without a reason must be executed on the spot for "murder". In the end i sided with the templars because yes, they fucked up really bad, but the Circle system worked in general. The people from both sides (mage/templar) who were in that system were incompetent, reckless. One thing was clear. Blood magic plagued Kirkwall and the normal people suffered from it. Clearly magic was the problem. Magic was the threat to the people and not the templars. You don't lead the Annulment, you are just a part of it, an unwilling soldier. Its more logical to side with the templars because the mages didn't really do anything for you to win your trust. You never even entered the Circle. Anders said that many mages escaped the Circle and you see in act three that the city was overrun with blood mages. Mages, probably who escaped the Circle and stayed in the city. So i choose order. Its better to weaken the mage side and this way the blood mages won't be so bold anymore. Being a hero means that sometimes you must make hard decisions that will get your hands dirty but will benefit the majority of the people.
@Javitomanzano
8 жыл бұрын
Hurlock alpha The thing is that blood magic doesn't have to be related with demons. A mage can use it's personal blood to fuel his spells without demons being involved. Anyway I understand your point but I disagree with it (not with everything, of course). At least we agree to disagree. Is just great how this stuff brings this kind of debate. :) Have a nice day.
@wingedparagon4448
5 жыл бұрын
Who seriously would pick that last option....? Just....why?
@michamcv.1846
5 жыл бұрын
after rethinking shouldnt Anders not know , that wardensblood can stop the blight ???
@ghostlysiren9574
5 жыл бұрын
The person who stopped the Blight made him a Warden. So he either knows or doesn't based on what the Hero of Ferelden told him.
@RazorBMWblacklist1
7 жыл бұрын
wait. i thought when Bethany went to the wardens she was gone forever? fuck. that changes what i was gonna do with this playthrough. make Bethany a warden and side with the templars. then again iirc i can stay somewhat neutral by not picking a side at the beginning of act 3.
@angeliquezambardi878
5 жыл бұрын
Bethany died for me in the very beginning of the game, when that ogre came running and smshsed her into the ground - idk how to change that.
@yang6642
5 жыл бұрын
Don’t be a warrior or rogue
@astralaris8712
4 жыл бұрын
No you need to be either a Warrior or a Rogue, then shell be your sister and live. If you choose mage, Carver will survive.
@Potatocrime24-7
6 жыл бұрын
Bethany didn't die on the last one look the sword went under her arm
@grelly_chan8401
4 жыл бұрын
Bethany is such a sweetie too bad you can't have Bethany in your party unless you're not a mage
@RolandoMariaBNogoy
5 жыл бұрын
3:33 Well, Bethany may be beautiful, but her hands looked crooked. Poor Bethany. :(
@cripplehawk
11 жыл бұрын
My take I prefer that Bethany becomes a Warden. She may hate it but she grows up. Bethany being in the Circle makes her more like a damsel in distress IMO, she is happy but as Anders put it she is VERY naive. Carver is the exact opposite
@Hawaiian_Pizza_Enjoyer
5 жыл бұрын
HolyDragon2808 What I don’t like about Circle-Bethany is that if you side with the mages she seems to be a soft version of Anders at the end. Some sort of activist who wants to fight the system. What’s interesting about that is that during banters between him and her (if she is in the circle) she mentions that she actually likes it there. It’s nice not having to be on the run and she enjoys being a teacher and mentor to the kids. This seems to suit her perfectly. Yet during the last conversation in the gallows she acts like she hated every second there. When siding with the templars, her being in the Wardens doesn’t get her into the crossfire, but she’s so unhappy there...
@EmoBearRights
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why you would side with the templars? Meredith is mad and she's willing to destroy an entire circle - men, women AND CHILDREN including Bethany's friends NONE of whom did ANYTHING to blow up the Chantry. And you don't see why she'd be unhappy about it?! Honestly.... words fail.
@lhomepereta6425
11 жыл бұрын
Dana, will you upload the carver's scenes too?
@abbynady
8 жыл бұрын
dragon age 2 the best da
@beverlyarcher546
3 жыл бұрын
Is there a glitch with carver as you never see him show signs of the Blight like Bethany he literally looks worn out
@mariothompson3201
3 жыл бұрын
No it's not a glitch, that's normal for everyone. A result of an oversight missed during development.
@achilles9448
5 жыл бұрын
I love dragon age franchise and in dragon age 2, I loved being the mage and romance with isbela but I hated the brother, I wish they made it where if your a mage your sister will live
@spectre8913
3 жыл бұрын
Mods can fix that.
@federicomachado811
8 жыл бұрын
I think i prefer Carver.
@ghostlysiren9574
5 жыл бұрын
Wtf?
@Jeymez
Жыл бұрын
if they ever decide to remaster this game you know what i would do, since it's impossible to romance Bethany or Carver, i would introduce two new characters, one male for Bethany and a female for Carver. but we get to play a small role as Bethany or Carver, if Bethany or Carver becomes a warden, they meet someone along the way, if Carver is in the order or Bethany in the circle they meet somewhere there giving the player a chance to see what Hawke doesn't see. so during the main story of the game, when you reunite with your sibling Hawke will notice someone new with them. it wouldn't be a very long dlc, but just enough to build a relationship with Bethany or Carver and this new person. i mean the game pretty much had Hawke play matchmaker with Aveline since you can't quite make her a full romance option, that's another thing i would change. but back getting to it, people always said how they wish Bethany wasn't related, well what if a separate dlc existed that allowed fans to get what they always dreamed of. Bethany for example becomes a little bitter as a warden, but what if you got to play a small role to see how she's dealing with it, you can help play a role in helping Bethany grow as a person. later in the main game Bethany forgives Hawke, or in Carver's case, you get to play a minor role as him as a templar or warden.
@Milu0000000
11 жыл бұрын
It's a little annoying how she is afraid of the Circle at the beginning of ACT 1 and calmly accepts it at the end of it. It couldn't take more than a few weeks.
@majagirlpower2561
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👽
@jhaycraft3980
3 жыл бұрын
I love Bethany, and carver is so annoying. But I just can't bring myself to make hawke a non-mage.
@bioticgod4940
2 жыл бұрын
i wish bethany was the inquisitor
@ComfyCornerReviews
5 жыл бұрын
Why can't Hawke return to Ferelden?
@yang6642
5 жыл бұрын
He could but what would the point be? There’s nothing left for him there
@Tenzou988
Жыл бұрын
I wana romance Bethany , and Carver will always bite the dust.
@vardellsfolly5200
4 жыл бұрын
.. i mean, if Game of Thrones had incest, why can't we love Bethany!?
@DraculaCronqvist
4 жыл бұрын
Because it's morally wrong and disgusting and just because a sub-par show like Game of Thrones extolls such "virtues" doesn't mean you should emulate them? Don't be sick.
@vardellsfolly5200
4 жыл бұрын
@@DraculaCronqvist Obviously, you missed the joke, didn't you?
@DraculaCronqvist
4 жыл бұрын
@@vardellsfolly5200 First of all, sarcasm is difficult to detect via blank text, mate. Second, many people actually do have this opinion. Many sick fucks around when they're presented with anonymity.
@vardellsfolly5200
4 жыл бұрын
@@DraculaCronqvist That is true, it is indeed.
@EmoBearRights
4 жыл бұрын
Cersei effs her brother as a way of being him and makes him do terrible things for her - it's not a good thing.
@LuciFrederiksen
7 жыл бұрын
I hate this game like hell , the one who made it had serious issues in within his family , i would have chosen the option to let at last 1 char to stay in the team , after the Deep Roads , they actually kill the mood for me to play
@astralaris8712
4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean exactly? Did it kill it for you since you cant keep wither Bethany or Carver in the party? I would agree, she/he and Varric are the best characters in the game, if you manage to get through the game, play the DLCs at the end and youll get more out of both of them :D
@illogicalstuff6099
4 жыл бұрын
@@astralaris8712 That's the only gripe I had. I mean, she is really good companion after all :)
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