@Blueoozarueditswhat does steve have to do with this?
@The.4.Seasons
2 ай бұрын
@Blueoozarueditsthis is not really about Steve and secondly Jonathan is better
@The.4.Seasons
2 ай бұрын
@Blueoozaruedits no way you like Steve the person that - Bullied Jonathan for no absolute reason - Said horrible things about Will, Joyce and him Even though he knew his brother was missing Him and his friends were making fun of Will being missing Compared Jonathan To his abusive father Broke Jonathan’s camera Wrote how Nancy was a sl*t on a sign because she was drunk and said some bad things and Evereyones excuse for him was his Dad wasn’t there when Jonathan was getting abused by his dad And never turned into a bully he Brought Nancy home when Steve left her there drunk Saved Nancy from the upside down s1 Jonathan also, was a father figure for his whole familly when his dad was abusing him he tried to not let Jonathan get hurt Tried protecting Mike and Will from getting shot tried saving Nancy from the flayed Also, ofc he was gonna need a season we’re he would have went the wrong path he had to make his brothers funeral at 16 while Steve is complaining about getting a job at 18 and he saved eleven Wdym he was useless he also, added humor to s4
@The.4.Seasons
2 ай бұрын
@Blueoozaruedits what are your reasons?
@trevormandouma
2 ай бұрын
@@The.4.Seasonsbro Jonathan literally took nude pictures of Nancy and Steve he absolutely had a reason and also that was all in season1 before he got his redemption Of course he got mad Nancy played him for a year He risked his life for Dustin max and Lucas Fought Billy to protect max and Lucas and lost He always put the kids and everyone else’s safety first He’s very supportive of Robin when she’s comes out and keeps her secret safe He also saved Jonathan Nancy Will and Lucas’ life by crashing into Billy He held down a door to ensure Dustin and Erica get away That’s all only in season 2 and 3
@rookiemonster646
2 жыл бұрын
I HATE the Duffers for what they're doing to Jonathan. He's a stoner now?? What happened to his love for photography, his dream to go to NYU, why does he barely interact with Will or Joyce anymore?? They've ruined his character and I HATE that. On top of everything, now they're hurting Jancy as well!
@Tonycillian5
2 жыл бұрын
At this point Charlie Heaton should just quit the show. It ain’t gonna get better
@rookiemonster646
2 жыл бұрын
@@Tonycillian5 Agreed! He should find something better to do, somewhere his talents aren't wasted!
@pranjalm7247
2 жыл бұрын
Long distance relationship totally suck
@pranjalm7247
2 жыл бұрын
By the way he was the funniest in this season for me
@EllieRansom
2 жыл бұрын
Being a stoner 1000% improves his character lol
@kid-ava
2 жыл бұрын
I hate how badly the writing team fucked Jonathan up, cause he's my favorite character and I felt he had so much potential. He could've evolved from the aloof, under the radar loner, who is loyal, hardworking, responsible, talented, and goal oriented (all admirable traits) and gave him a huge underdog to hero arc in this or even the last season. But no, they threw that (and his passion for photography) out the window and made him into a dull, lifeless, unmotivated pothead who dresses like a bum. Praying my boy gets more justice in season 5, the heart to heart scene he had with Will in the last episode showed some improvement 💞💖💗💗
@22taylorsversion9
2 жыл бұрын
not only his love for photography but also his love for music. And Jonathan always wanted to go to NY college, idk why they forgot about that and now they act as if his dream was always staying with his family
@BeatDr0p_Beats
2 жыл бұрын
Johnathan favorite Is crazy out of all the characters but Is respectable
@kid-ava
2 жыл бұрын
@@22taylorsversion9 fr!! the writers always seem to forget important stuff like that about the byers. the same way they forgot will's birthday
@bowser1166
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t get it either. He was always the one who was ambitious, brave and caring, of course that means a lot of stress, but he always seemed to be able to cope with it. Him forgetting about his passions is just so… depressing?
@Ammar7q9
2 жыл бұрын
What wym dresses like a bum? I kinda like his style and wanted to wear that to school xD
@theloudcartoonhouse
2 жыл бұрын
I genuinely thought this video would be shorter than the s3 one
@legomyeggo7471
2 жыл бұрын
considering the fact that season 4 has 4 more hours of runtime than season 3 and jonathans screentime only increased by a minute is saying something
@ngakieu3541
2 жыл бұрын
s3 Jo have total 5min, lol, there was a clip of him too
@tylerjones7592
2 жыл бұрын
Jonathan is now unfortunately a background character and he was once one of the main characters of season 1 .
@22taylorsversion9
2 жыл бұрын
He's my comfort character in life, there has never been a character that touches me the way Jonathan does. Charlie Heaton is an amazing actor, he deserves better! Give Jonathan a proper storyline please! Hate the Duffers for paying him dust for 5 years straight
@gamergabe769
2 жыл бұрын
exactly!!
@J0D1_
2 жыл бұрын
HE HAD SO POTENTIAL. he better be normal and then Nancy and him could get better again in s5
@tobiaslattimer2518
2 жыл бұрын
His character is totally being screwed by the show. If they break him and Nancy up, I'm gonna be pissed.
@cr0werr
2 жыл бұрын
look how they massacred my boy
@Jay-cy3wt
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Jonathan kind of got shafted after the first season. He doesn’t really have that much development. And I don’t like how they made him a stoner. They could have explained it like him trying to get through all the events in the past. Both Jonathan and Mike kind of feel sidelined this season.
@sawyersengel3044
2 жыл бұрын
WIll too. Literally the whole California crew because them mfs were sidelined af. Will's gonna be a big part of season 5 so I'm glad about that idk about the other characters
@luckacoline6308
2 жыл бұрын
Yea 😕😔
@TheLudwigWan
2 жыл бұрын
And Will got taken off since Season 3.
@loafibun.
2 жыл бұрын
yeah will was kinda useless after s2 lmao. i hope he actually does something in s5 besides crying and touching his neck
@chocobunny6382
2 жыл бұрын
@BUNNIE lmao😭😭😭
@FurkanSavas
2 жыл бұрын
Man if you compare Jonathan and Mike with season 1 they were like main characters now they are like funny side characters. I hope including Will last season they will get the playtime they deserve. They did a great job with Max, Lucas and Dustin but the opposite for these guys.
@tristanwillard5464
2 жыл бұрын
Thats the point of the show ! To focus on a different person each season.... yes this will make some people mad because their favcharacter isn't always the main... but hell not even eleven is the main character.. if we think about it there is no MAIN character, And that obviously pulls people in and out of the spotlight because everyone has different best friends and all live a little differently.
@Tonycillian5
Жыл бұрын
@@tristanwillard5464 Eleven always has a big part she is the main character and deserves the screen time. Steve is a glorified side character that shouldn’t have gotten nearly that much screentime. Not to mention Eddie who I can’t even mention without cringing. Jonathan and Mike used to be the most real characters on the show and they have been sidelined to being goofy love interest
@tristanwillard5464
Жыл бұрын
Id rather the show just be called " the strange adventures of eleven and chief hopper " they could be like a Demogorgon fighting Batman and Robin
@Abridgimation
6 ай бұрын
@Kenyagirly can't blame them, Steve Harrington is great, and Joe Keery is like the modern day Michael J Fox from the 80s. I got faith they'll give Jonathan and Mike some more importance in the final season
@Abridgimation
6 ай бұрын
@@Tonycillian5nah, Steve's screentime is warranted because he's an excellent character, but they definitely could've allowed Mike and Jonathan to be involved in the main stuff
@snack3760
2 жыл бұрын
the voice change when the bad men broke into the house
@meid789
2 жыл бұрын
They really did him bad this season...I really liked his character in the previous ones.
@ginsakis
2 жыл бұрын
twirling my hair giggling i love him so much
@therealricksorkin
2 жыл бұрын
I always thought Charlie was a really good actor who has a lot of potential but the writers screwed him over this season. I know a lot of people hated Jonathon but he was one of my favourite characters and they just threw his personality away apart from making him a stoner
@user-jb8ks4bt1n
2 жыл бұрын
Making him a stoner shows how the writers gave him realistic struggles that relate to people who have those aswell in reality. He even says in ep 9 volume 2 of season 4 to will “thats just me dealing with my own shit and running away from my problems.” His problems he has with college lead him to this, which is pretty realistic.
@leonidasoneoneseven
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-jb8ks4bt1n Exactly! 💯😁
@timtubehd4409
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-jb8ks4bt1n yess it was realistic but he had so much potential. Jonathon was a character that stood out from the rest of the st characters. The only reason they made him a stoner was because the writers didn’t know what story to give Jonathon when he’s not present with Nancy. In season 2 and 3 you can clearly tell how he slowly got replaced by Steve. The duffer brothers even confirmed Steve was supposed to die early in season 1, while they were originally planning to explore the buers family further in season 2 and 3. Don’t get me wrong I do kinda dig the way they took the character, and made him realistic, but they didn’t have to make him completely useless. Hopefully he gets more to do next season! It started with the byers and it should end with them!
@user-jb8ks4bt1n
2 жыл бұрын
@@timtubehd4409 This is a good explanation, and yeah I dont understand why they made him useless.
@Tonycillian5
2 жыл бұрын
Really hope Charlie leaves the show and does other things like A24 films or something. He is so talented outside the show and the writers have destoryed Jonthan's character and obviously hate the character and Charlie so he should just leave before he gets cancelled in Hollywood.
@Johan11702
2 жыл бұрын
Love the Blipp blipp blipp blipp bilpp
@Fatimayurr
2 жыл бұрын
They nerfed him hard this season. Still feel bad for what will happen to him
@ezzong
2 жыл бұрын
They might redeem him in last 2 episodes but I really don't have any expectation about it. Sigh
@22taylorsversion9
2 жыл бұрын
They lowkey did but sadly the Cali gang did nothing, just look at El
@Tvgirlsolos4
Жыл бұрын
This is gonna piss some people off but i low-key love Jonathan over Steve
@jayshannon9706
6 ай бұрын
That's the right choice
@soundberry
2 жыл бұрын
I can't really explain why he's one of my favourite characters, but it's prob because I really wanted an older brother like him lol. After season 1 he doesn't really do much, he's just kinda there :(
@Tonycillian5
2 жыл бұрын
Really hope Charlie leaves the show and does other things like A24 films or something. He is so talented outside the show and the writers have destoryed Jonthan's character and obviously hate the character and Charlie so he should just leave before he gets cancelled in Hollywood.
@margueritedadivas1442
2 жыл бұрын
Why would Jonathan think Nancy would throw away her dreams lol… Nancy is too cool
@Tripixium
2 жыл бұрын
They tried really hard making Jonathon a protagonist in the 1st season, and I gotta say they did pretty well with him back then, but now, this is just disappointing. Jonathon’s best season was still Season 1 and after that he’s gotten nothing too special at all, but Season 4 just ruined his character if the previous two seasons didn’t already. Hopefully Jonathan gets some more development in the 5th season.
@tristanwillard5464
2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does Jonathan remind u of that kid in middle school that u barely notice that every one kinda seems to stray away from except their closest friends.... And u may have even thought they may smell or have terrible breath or just downright not be a person to have a good time around. Then one day you actually speak to them... And u realize they could have been ( and may still become) like one of your closest friends and all around one of the most 100% real people at heart you ever met?
@Tonycillian5
2 жыл бұрын
He reminds me of someone who was a badass main character in the first season than was completely written of the show and just added in the background so they can make fun of him. Feel bad for the actor should leave the show
@andrewkruger7519
2 жыл бұрын
Johnathan: “Will have fun okay?”. You guys could tell that he was pissed at Mike for not wishing him a happy bday. Ugh.
@rebelliousoutsider
2 ай бұрын
Does Will even know that it was his birthday? Writers have a habit of forgetting things about the Byers family!
@is4bella._.21
2 жыл бұрын
0:20 i love that confused face 😭
@mangle3019
2 жыл бұрын
3:19 the way he runs is hilarious like how does you're body do that-
@tanjiroboomboom3925
2 жыл бұрын
2:17 blip blip blip blip blip blip blip blip
@markramos621
2 жыл бұрын
I hate what they did to his character there wasting his talent, I hope he gets more screen time in s5 or atleast redeems himself
@finalboy19
Жыл бұрын
they cut his screentime because he was an unpopular character in season 3. so instead of trying to make his character better or more interesting they just basically deleted him :(
@rebelliousoutsider
2 ай бұрын
So, if he is an unpopular character and they can't write an interesting character arc for him why didn't they kill him off?
@mannyharris5076
2 жыл бұрын
“Then we’ll hail ourselves a ride…. A cheap one.”
@Karlebow571
2 жыл бұрын
This Jonathan is basically like bro Thor avengers endgame
@apexpredator9769
5 ай бұрын
Bro it is infinity war Endgame would be season 5 I think jonathan would have a large screen time and specially action scene
@rebelliousoutsider
2 ай бұрын
@@apexpredator9769you are hoping too much from writers.
@hasona4000
Жыл бұрын
off topic but nancy didnt slay this season like im sorry but she didnt she just kept flirting with steve and giving him hope while all jonathon was doing in cali was think about her and worry about her i feel bad tbh jonathon doesnt deserve this
@GameHeroes6586
Жыл бұрын
My favorite character in stranger things Who's your favorite character
@Pollywood2009
11 ай бұрын
Mine is probably also Jonathan, along with Joyce and Mike. ❤
@Venquis_
Жыл бұрын
If I hadn’t looked up his Wiki page, I swear I would have lived my whole life thinking Charlie was actually American.
@EmmaSmith-du4cm
5 ай бұрын
I'm sorry but the "DRIVE, DRIVE" got me 😭✋
@mangle3019
2 жыл бұрын
' Jonathan what is wrong with you?? ' ' I m ' h I g h "
@skully7526
2 жыл бұрын
✨bleep✨
@Abridgimation
6 ай бұрын
I love Steve's development in the show, it's just unfortunate Jonathan doesn’t get more screen time.
@exerusyy
2 жыл бұрын
I ain’t gonna lie. I feel like they ruined Jonathan’s character in season 4, he did absolute nothing lol, not being rude I love Jonathan
@tankthethomasengine
Жыл бұрын
blip blip blip blip blip blip
@fid.ort0683
Жыл бұрын
Its funny how they completely destroyed this character lmao
@sevnzr
2 жыл бұрын
YAY
@rebelliousoutsider
2 ай бұрын
I have almost accepted that the Duffer brothers really have something against Charlie. Otherwise, they gave everyone a character arc, including Erica and Murray (not saying they shouldn't have), except Jonathan. Do the writers have something against Charlie or the character Jonathan? It's frustrating to see that every other character has been developed and given solid arcs except him.
@Tonycillian5
2 жыл бұрын
Charlie Heaton should seriously leave this series. The man is getting screwed up by the writers and he’s seriously wasting his talent on this show. It’s become a comedy and Charlie is more into dramatic horror British films. Like I would like to see him do Robert Eggers films.
@Sassywizard
2 жыл бұрын
The show wouldn’t be the same without Jonathan tho.
@AJReyes7039
2 жыл бұрын
No, he shouldn't. I know they did him dirty this season, and I totally hate it. Stranger Things 4 would never be Stranger Things 4 if this whole thing didn't happen, maybe the only thing we're left to do is to trust the writters. I know they know what they're doing, who knows, maybe in the last Season they will have the biggest contribution in the entire Season.
@pranjalm7247
2 жыл бұрын
I still cannot understand where will their team go Hawkins or Nevada
@lillydee5978
2 жыл бұрын
I'm all for him leaving the show as he's irreverent except in his interactions with Will. He's the least interesting character in the whole show.
@Tonycillian5
2 жыл бұрын
@@lillydee5978 I agree his acting technique just isn’t suited to this type of show. He just doesn’t fit the over the top funny acting performances that Joe Keery or Gaten give. He is more in the realistic and grounded type acting performances. Which just isn’t working. A more serious film or show is what he is made for. This show needs a more Ryan Reynolds type actor while Charlie is a Joaquin/River Phoenix type actor. That’s why he worked so well in season 1 when the show had a more serious tone.
@annie_willow_mc
2 жыл бұрын
Will you be doing a vol 2 one? ✌
@Tonycillian5
2 жыл бұрын
Charlie Heaton’s acting technique just isn’t suited to this type of show after season 1. He just doesn’t fit the over the top funny acting performances that Joe Keery or Gaten give. He is more in the more suited for subtle and grounded type acting performances. Which just isn’t working. A more serious film or show is what he is made for. Basically the show needs a more Ryan Reynolds type actor while Charlie is a Joaquin/River Phoenix type actor. That’s why he worked so well in season 1 when the show had a more serious tone. So if they didn’t kill off Jonathan by Vol 2, I advise Charlie to quit the show while he’s still not type casted.
@22taylorsversion9
2 жыл бұрын
This show is much more than comedy. Jonathan was funnier this season. Charlie Heaton is an all-kind of actor. He can pull off any role!
@ohifonlyx33
2 жыл бұрын
I really don't think of Stranger Things as being a comedy, although there are some great comedic elements. I think Jonathan plays an 80's introverted Weirdo Loner very well... and he is able to convey a grounded but average ordinary character with some range from intelligence to fear to just this tired guy who has a tough life, a kid just trying to get by, and a brother and son trying to support his family and hold it all together. I do feel bad for him. Him becoming a pothead once he leaves the stress of Hawkins and his mom and brother are ding well... just makes quite a bit of sense.
@Tonycillian5
2 жыл бұрын
@@ohifonlyx33 Yeah this I feel bad for him makes no sense he has never been focused on to really understand his struggles. You as an audience member have to infer that he is struggling. You don't actually see it affect him on scree like it did to other similar characters like Jesse Pinkman. Writers almost making fun of addiction when it is a really sad thing. I am sorry character is destroyed. Charlie Heaton deserves better and should quit the show and hopefully he gets another big project that would force him to quit it.
@rebelliousoutsider
2 ай бұрын
@@ohifonlyx33From a neutral audience perspective-someone who is not a crazy fan of the show but still loves it-it seems to me that the show took a more comedic approach starting in season 3, losing the raw emotional depth of seasons 1 and 2. In seasons 1 and 2, the humor was sophisticated, but since season 3, it has leaned more towards a clownish element. Although they tried to recapture the emotional depth of season 1 in season 4, I believe they still missed the mark. Eddie's death, for example, didn't move me as much as Bob's did.
@wadewilson333
2 жыл бұрын
Charlie Heaton would make a great John Conner.
@Tonycillian5
Жыл бұрын
Yeah he looks a lot like Edward Furlong
@timtubehd4409
Жыл бұрын
You should make all words said by Jonathon Byers vol 2
@rookiemonster646
2 жыл бұрын
Please do one for vol 2.
@fid.ort0683
Жыл бұрын
The Steve Harrington show i guess, Jonathan cant have screen time 😂
@JJ-re4qk
2 жыл бұрын
gawdamn Jonathan really fell off after season 3 😿
@mr.satire9681
2 жыл бұрын
How tf is Jonathan 19 yet looks 57
@Tonycillian5
2 жыл бұрын
The stranger things makeup doing wonders.
@plazmene6817
4 ай бұрын
0:58
@Racistfrieza
2 жыл бұрын
jonathan is a comfort/kin of mine and him turning into a stoner is kinda scary just like me lmao, me and jonathan both have daddy issues, we both love people and both hate some people in our life very quiet most of the time i don’t really like my family it’s shity but no matter what i’ll still be there for them my sister is 15 older than me i was 13 at the time beating ppl up for her just because i don’t like seeing my family members hurt now i just chill smoking most of the time to get away from my trauma that everyone has put on me for years
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