Very powerful video. May Allah reward you with good Bro. Hajji. Indeed this video will HAUNT the Salafees for long. This video has proven that some of the scholars of the path held extreme beliefs which were BASELESS
@mohammadshuayb3944
3 жыл бұрын
The salaf didn't held extreme beliefs, they were referring to jahmis who rejected this report to be jahmis who rejected the uluw of Allah. But yes they are not infallible and got its authenticity wrong.
@أسد_مبين
Жыл бұрын
@@mohammadshuayb3944 No! trustworthy Salaf scholars are infallible their Aqeedah!! They had pure Aqeedah .. whatever they report regarding Aqeedah matters are which reached them directly from the Sahabah from the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم
@ISHsClips
3 жыл бұрын
Brother Hajji 🏹❤️ , love your humble intro where you are leading by example by stating and clarifying the etiquettes, mannerisms & adab! & also the way you are showing love to the “moderate” brothers. It’s easy to acknowledge the corrupt ones after conversing with them after 5 mins because when you talk to some of them, their blood pressure if checked, reads around 140/90mmHg or higher (or 150/90mmHg or higher if they are over the age of 80). IYI اي ولله
@omersajed9383
Жыл бұрын
I am a salafi and I 100% support u, the madakhila süper salafis r a cancer, salafisim is meant to be what u r preaching
@ExposingAhlulBidah
Жыл бұрын
Why would a student of Ibn Abbas who stopped Ibn Abbas after each ayah from the Qur'an to ask for its tafsir take this belief from israeeliyat? Why would the israeeliyat specifically mention that Muhammad ﷺ will sit on the Arsh in the first place? How could Mujahid bring something from the matters of the unseen by himself? I panned through this video as I don't want to waste my time but did you even mention that Layth narrated this report from a book and not from memory? Because that changes things with some of the scholars of hadith. The reason why the salaf "exaggerated" calling those who reject this report a Jahmi was because those people who rejected this report did so because they thought it would necessitate Tajsim. There is a massive difference between, 1) rejecting the report because of weakness in the chain (like what you are doing and the lajnah etc), and 2) rejecting the report because one has issues when it comes to reports that speak about the names and attributes of Allah. You have conflated the two things to suit your own narrative and this is not correct. May Allah guide us.
@whn2058
3 жыл бұрын
Some Hanbali's went too far with the affirming and distorted the Athari aqeedah. However many shafi'is like the imams ad darimi and ibn Khuzaimah were athari. So were imams from the maliki fiqh like ibn abi zayd. Some of the Hanbali scholars like qadhi abu yala made mistakes in affirming beliefs onto Allah that were from weak reports and may Allah forgive them and us. Ameen
@hammadahmad6312
Жыл бұрын
Summary is. You can't narrow Sunni Islam down to Saudi scholars and their students in the UK. Even the Atharis have a spectrum. Respect all scholarship, stop with tabd3, learn your deen and live it.
@qasis42
3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard this before regarding anyone claiming the prophet (saw) will be seated on the throne next to Allah. I've been around salafis for years and have never heard this before
@abdulrahimnassor1904
3 жыл бұрын
Imam Ibn Taymiyyah believes this.. And I'm not bashing him. But he did. And that is where the Salafis get it from.
@qasis42
3 жыл бұрын
@@abdulrahimnassor1904 never knew that, that's strange. Doesn't surprise me though as they blindly follow their shaykhs
@nokhchi1079
3 жыл бұрын
@@abdulrahimnassor1904 source?
@abdulrahimnassor1904
3 жыл бұрын
It is in his book, Kitab al Arsh.
@qasis42
3 жыл бұрын
@@abdulrahimnassor1904 I've never heard any salafis claim this. Ibn taymiyyah isn't only the Shaykh of salafis and salafis don't necessarily follow everything he said.
@jamalkhalil77
2 жыл бұрын
That belief is like the Christian's belief, who say that jesus peace be upon him will be sitting on the right hand side of God.
@aamiribrahim2615
9 ай бұрын
Accept truth fully and become an Ash'ari or Maturidi۔ Many Salafis have a lot of Mujasima beliefs not only that Prophet Peace be upon him will be seated with Allah on throne.
@عبدالعزيزنصيف
Жыл бұрын
واذكر كلام مجاهد في قوله*** أقم الصلاة وتلك في سبحان في ذكر تفسير المقام لأحمد*** ما قيل ذا بالرأي والحسبان ان كان تجسيما فان مجاهدا*** هو شيخهم بل شيخه الفوقاني (شيخه الفوقاني= عبدالله بن عباس رضي الله عنهما
@briancordero7674
3 жыл бұрын
Bro Hajj is laying the issues bear,so those who one stop shop while pushing their cultish peer pressure and blind following may reconsider their formula.
@Adilhussain-ye4tl
3 жыл бұрын
Bro hadji u need to deal with mufti abu layth his misleading young Muslims
@MB-tb6jy
3 жыл бұрын
So many known Muslims have dealt with that guy, but still some people are drawn to him for some unknown (possibly dunyawi) reasons.
@aliditta7768
3 жыл бұрын
@@MB-tb6jy NOT A SINGLE MUSLIM IS WILLING TO COME ON HIS PODCAST TO DISCUSS WITH HIM. SO MANY TIMES MUFTI ABU LAYTH HAS INVITED THE SCHOLARS AND STUDENTS OF KNOWLEDGE BUT ARE ALL SCARED.
@MB-tb6jy
3 жыл бұрын
@@aliditta7768 He is the one scared of debating people. Only time I saw him in a debate was with Sh. Asrar Rashid (hafidhahu Allâh) and He didn't even let him speak. He just interrupted and laughed around. Had zero 'adab. Now you want people to come to he's podcast (which will be run by him) on he's channel (where he can edit out controversial parts, plus receive more views). If he is genuine then why doesn't he at the very least refute the allegations made against him?
@essiex6316
3 жыл бұрын
Mufti abu layth owns all of you lol still waiting for the day someone will top Abu Layth.
@jslj5774
3 жыл бұрын
@@MB-tb6jy most are fundamentally liberal and want some form of islam but not the corrrect islam even in the most fundamental matters. Their issue is that their true beliefs are liberal
@أسد_مبين
Жыл бұрын
So are you saying all those Salaf who believed in it are wrong. Y wud they mentioned a weak narration in their Aqeedah books?? They are the best of ppl..they narrate regarding Aeedah what have reached them from the Sahabah from the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم
@maboobhussain976
3 жыл бұрын
Salaam brothers great video as always ma shaa Allah please could someone kindly send me the tiltle of rhe nasheed played atbthe at the start of the video jzk shukran shukran
@BroHajji
3 жыл бұрын
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@abdullahosaka5176
2 жыл бұрын
قال شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية رحمه الله: " حدث العلماء المرضيون وأولياؤه المقبولون: أن محمدا رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يجلسه ربه على العرش معه ، روى ذلك محمد بن فضيل عن ليث عن مجاهد؛ في تفسير: عسى أن يبعثك ربك مقاما محمودا وذكر ذلك من وجوه أخرى مرفوعة وغير مرفوعة. قال ابن جرير: وهذا ليس مناقضا لما استفاضت به الأحاديث من أن المقام المحمود هو الشفاعة باتفاق الأئمة من جميع من ينتحل الإسلام ويدعيه لا يقول إن إجلاسه على العرش منكر - وإنما أنكره بعض الجهمية- ولا ذكرُه في تفسير الآية منكر" . انتهى من "مجموع الفتاوى"(4/ 374). وينظر كلام ابن جرير رحمه الله في تفسيره (17/ 531).
@AbdullaShoaibHaris
3 жыл бұрын
My doubt is whether any super salafi etc claim this interpretation nowadays? I haven’t heard so I asked
@abdulrahimnassor1904
3 жыл бұрын
They do.
@abdulrahimnassor1904
3 жыл бұрын
@@wahidemran833 again, books like Kitab al Tawhid by MiAW refers to al Muwafaqah that Ibn Taymiyyah directly related this. Some ideas like these are found in Sharh ul Hadith, Minhaj al Sunnah, Kitab Al Arsh, Aqidatul wasitiyyah all of which are books that salafis study and teach. Minhaj al Sunnah and Aqidatul Wasitiyyah is in the Madina University Curriculum.
@Th3wobbler
3 жыл бұрын
What's your stance on maturidis and asharis?
@jamielsaddiq9692
3 жыл бұрын
They are Ahli Sunnati wal Jama'ah! And they are the Jumhur.
@YouOnUsPath
3 жыл бұрын
Search ijma ulama international 2016 in Chechna, ahlu sunnah wal jamaah
@AbuWilly.
2 жыл бұрын
@@YouOnUsPath 🤣🤣🤣 lmao the conference of sufiyyah and retardation
@azizurrahman-pm5dl
3 жыл бұрын
But salafis don't believe this, who is calling you mubtadi over this? Can you please share the link or provide evidence.
@abdulrahimnassor1904
3 жыл бұрын
Salafis do believe this.
@abdulrahimnassor1904
3 жыл бұрын
@@wahidemran833 Brother, Aqidah al Wasitiyyah, Kitab al Arsh, kitab al Tawhid are all studied by Salafi Students.
@whn2058
3 жыл бұрын
@@abdulrahimnassor1904 What a silly statement. Sheikh Uthaymeen and Sheikh al Albani are salafi scholars and didn't take this as aqeedah
@ShafiAshari
Жыл бұрын
@@whn2058 😂😂😂😂
@hiphopjunkie303
3 жыл бұрын
Was this comparison with the Yahud actually justified?
@wisdomeacrosstheages
3 жыл бұрын
Allah uses the example of the Yahud (and other people) to teach us about the errors others fell into. If Allah used them as an example, then it means that we too are capable of falling into them; otherwise, there is no need for us to be told to take heed. Examples we can't take lessons from don't exist in the Qur'an because the Qu'ran is perfect and only teaches that which is beneficial. From that, we know that there will be Muslims making the same mistakes the 'Yahud' made for sure--it shouldn't be seen a slur, but a description of how they're behaving.
@hiphopjunkie303
3 жыл бұрын
@@wisdomeacrosstheages But aren't they muslims and not jews?
@wisdomeacrosstheages
3 жыл бұрын
@@hiphopjunkie303 They are Muslims of course inshaa Allah. But the Qur'an used the Yahud as an example for 'all Muslims'. In other words, we can take lessons from the errors they made even if we are Muslims--i.e. they went wrong in x,y and z so we should be careful before behaving in the same way. Going back to my original post, if it isn't possible to behave like them--not become them--then Allah wouldn't have used them as an example. Allah only uses that which is beneficial. As a result we know we can make the same errors as them, which wouldn't take someone out of Islam and make them a Jewish in faith (bearing in mind Jewish is also a race). It just means they are making those mistakes and should reflect upon their actions.
@hiphopjunkie303
3 жыл бұрын
@@wisdomeacrosstheages I agree with you. Thank you for the clarification.
@jamalkhalil77
2 жыл бұрын
When they say, more than one, they mean, many.
@MrAgenda25
3 жыл бұрын
There is a HUGE PROBLEM regarding who really are the Salaf. If we want to go by the famous definition of it as referring to the first three generations, then Imam Abu Dawud, Imam Ahmad, Imam Shaafi and many more scholars aren't referred to as the Salaf.
@MrAgenda25
3 жыл бұрын
Imam Malik studied from the Taabi-oon. Did Imam Shafi and Imam Ahmad meet any of the Taabi-oon? If no is your answer, how can they be part of the first three generations? Bear in mind that a Taabi is someone who met a Sahabi. The Taabi Taabi-oon is someone who met the Taabi-oon.
@markward3981
Жыл бұрын
A few people in the last few years have started to manipulate this term. Ironically, the salaf , didn't refer to themselves as Salafis. Think about it.
@ccc4cccc33
3 жыл бұрын
Asalamualaykum brother. Bro Hajji, I watched the whole video but I dont understand the point. Can you help me understand the point you are making? We as muslim dont believe that Muhammed SAW would be sat next to Allah as there is no authentic report. Does anybody believe this apart from the early generation who as you stated where being excessive? (And wrong as humans we are not infallible, may they be forgiven and rewarded, ameen) Sorry if it feels like I'm wasting your time but I dont understand what the argument you are trying to make. Does anybody argue this in this day and age?
@ccc4cccc33
3 жыл бұрын
@Farhiya Jama never heard that before until now (maybe I'm ignorant of their aqeedah) Didn't he bring their sheikh Rabee who they say they follow As evidence?
@ccc4cccc33
3 жыл бұрын
@Farhiya Jama can u cite the reference so I can check n verify.
@oeshkoer
2 жыл бұрын
The Hanbalis believed it
@YouOnUsPath
3 жыл бұрын
Ijma ulama international 2016 in Chechna ahlu sunnah wal jamaah
@MohammedAli-gk7pg
3 жыл бұрын
This is some crazy belief.. how can one think that. However which type of salafis actually believe that the prophet (saw) will sit on the throne?
@abdulrahimnassor1904
3 жыл бұрын
The type that follows Shaykhul Islam Ibn taymiyyah
@namakubento9604
2 жыл бұрын
I thought so, even if the report is shaheeh, Affirming literal sense of it, is absolutely stupid What kind of madness they have in their head?
@عبدالعزيزنصيف
Жыл бұрын
It’s him setting and shafah, it’s اختلاف تنوع Not sure why you’re tryna make it a madkhalis thing, many scholars accept and many from the salaf said the jahmiyya rejected it, الله يصلحك على فجورك في الخصومة تبغ تضرب المداخلة رحت ضربت عقيدة اعتقدها السلف الصالح
@mancinojackal9546
3 жыл бұрын
Good points brother Hajji but please stop making fun of people. I'm sure you are aware of the hadith about the people who make fun of others
@MasoodKhan-so9hv
Жыл бұрын
Salafi got their aqeedah from the Christian doctrine In Mark chapter 16 verse 19 where it says the lord Jesus after having spoken to them was taken up to heaven and sat down with at the right Hand of God. This is the same thing salafi scholars have quoted where Allah says the lord will raise you up to a praised station these Wahhabis have interpreted praised station as the prophet will sit next to allah in the Arsh. Second reference Hebrews chapter 10 verse 12 jesus sat down at the right hand of god, third reference Hebrews chapter 12 verse 2 as we look intently at the chief agent perfector of our faith jesus for the joy that was set before him he endured a torture state despite shame and sat down at the right hand of the Throne of God! kzitem.info/news/bejne/yXhnx5yOgnhhlKg
@wb3123
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome slam dunk bro!
@74IDREES
3 жыл бұрын
Give proof that the scholars ie sheikh rabee etchave the aqeeda that prophet pbuh will sit on the throne.?
@74IDREES
3 жыл бұрын
@@farzana6676 I follow Quran Sunna how Sahaba ra understood it. Not opinions of people or scholars
@74IDREES
3 жыл бұрын
@@farzana6676 well! Let’s put it to the test then. Are you Deobandi?
@74IDREES
3 жыл бұрын
@@farzana6676 as he said sheikh albani refuted it. So what is the issue?
@whn2058
3 жыл бұрын
@@farzana6676sh. ibn Taymiyyah wasn't from the salaf. So let's forget him for a second. Sh. Ibn Taymiyyah wasn't infallible. Just as the salaf weren't infallible either. However why is it that the schools of kalam cant accept certain hadith and instead do tawil on them like allah being over the throne or that Allah created Adam with his yaad. This was accept by imam Ashari but not the later Ashari's how come???
@LeekyKale
3 жыл бұрын
its hanbali aqeedah, there is no such thing as athari aqeedah
@abdulrahimnassor1904
3 жыл бұрын
Athari Aqīdah is synonymously known as Hanbali Aqīdah because many Hanbalis followed it. It is known as Athari because many of the Ahlul Hadith followed this Aqidah BUT not all of them. Just like not all Hanbalis followed this Aqidah.
@somahmed123
3 жыл бұрын
@@abdulrahimnassor1904 god has fingers, hands,face two eyes or one eye he sits in a chair in the sky. Comes down ever night.
@whn2058
3 жыл бұрын
Some Hanbali's went too far with the Athari Aqeedah and distorted it. However many shafi'is like the imams ad darimi and ibn Khuzaimah were athari. So were imams from the maliki fiqh like ibn abi zayd. Some of the Hanbali scholars like qadhi abu yala made mistake in affirming beliefs onto Allah that were from weak reports and may Allah forgive them and us. Ameen
@bosbanon3452
3 жыл бұрын
@@farzana6676 he following muhammad bin karam founder of karamiyyah
@muhammadhasan2582
3 жыл бұрын
@@farzana6676 He likely was not a Mujassim, some have suggested that his works were distorted by his opponents, pointing to issues with the narrators of some of his works. And who were those opponents? They were the Karramiyya - true Mujassimah. He refuted them. It is best to have Husn ad-Dhann and assume the best of Imam Uthman ad-Darimi.
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