At 19:50 dendi could not Jaunt to his orb because when he came out of his phase shift he landed into a tether stun
@RealityCheck6969
7 күн бұрын
I loved everything in this dota. I was watching it live and I was amazed.
@jeppepeppe22
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining how wisp works every 5 sec for this whole series.
@volkancanbolat5521
5 жыл бұрын
I have missed good old dota :(
@johnwill4193
4 жыл бұрын
7.00 was a mistake
@isaacyingzhouteh
11 жыл бұрын
one very different element of sport and esport is that esport are usually stuff that we would want to avoid in real life, such as war, fight, shooting people down, killing opponent. and if you can use any ' military tactic', it's a real beautiful experience that we common people cant get in real life.
@rodjenlosbgd
11 жыл бұрын
Now, that's a comment i didn't expect to find here. Optimism would be the most powerful force in life, if it did actually work. 'Pray for the best, prepare for the worst'.
@lHDISMAEL00
11 жыл бұрын
THIS IS DEFENCE OF THE ANCIENTS Na Vi COULD NOT DEFEND
@VinZ9973
11 жыл бұрын
COMMON NA'VI FANBOYS! JUST ACCEPT THE DEFEAT! I am a Na'vi supporter too, but I can live with it. JUST ACCEPT DEFEAT ALREADY!
@damianlcr
11 жыл бұрын
They don't understand that this is not about which team is rougher than the other, this is a MIND game, so the better strategy, and well executed one is which wins.
@CdnStrategos
11 жыл бұрын
If it is the banning phase, you simply don't ban a hero, where as during the picking stage, you get a random hero.
@TJankris
11 жыл бұрын
"i know you are a great commentator but..." ahhhh, what was Bruno going to say?
@FASELstudios
11 жыл бұрын
that was a juke, though not a complex one. he ran one direction, shadowbladed and then ran the other way, so the enemies think he continues running the same way. that is the definition of juking....
@lHDISMAEL00
11 жыл бұрын
s4 was so OP at disabling tose TPs with Puck, thanks to him Alliance could take the Ancient, was so cool. Alliance team work was amazing and broke NaVi.
@Lashb1ade
11 жыл бұрын
Navi seem to keep making mistakes where their entire team rushes in to a stupid position and gets wiped by Alliance. This game it was moving to take the bottom tier 2, from which they never recovered. Last game they tried for Roshan when Alliance were right next to them, which nearly lost them the game.
@MysticMaiden90
11 жыл бұрын
To those sore NaVi wannabes : Stop nonsenses about "style" gameplay when victory is achievable by fulfilling the objectives of the game. Both teams had a great gameplay here. If you refuse to recognize Alliance's victory in this tournament, no one can force you to. But Alliance do deserve commendation for turning the tides, so bashing them won't change this fact.
@xAddictedSystemx
11 жыл бұрын
I feel like of all the commentator duo's (Lumi/LD Tobi/Waga ayesee/Draskyl) I think they are the best
@lztong
11 жыл бұрын
Good Luck Have Fun
@Hulkoviusone
11 жыл бұрын
Loda Quote - Its about killing buildings, not heroes, not farming gold. Ofc killing heroes and farming gold makes it a bit easier but when they ancient falls, u win.
@kevinariego601
10 жыл бұрын
Dendi is a good player also puppey !! GO Na'Vi
@UploaderA
11 жыл бұрын
I'm really sad that Na'Vi lost.. being a Na'Vi fanboy myself, this is really disheartening of course. However, awesome play by Alliance, gotta respect that. Their playstyle is really stable.
@054dhantealifsupriyadi6
11 ай бұрын
Alliance vs Na'Vi Grand Finals Game Four.
@nordicpoisonhd2969
11 жыл бұрын
Life is a series of proboability. every day there's a chance that a given set of things will happen. You'll keep getting "lucky" if you keep exposing yourself to things with upside and limited downside. If you get an amazing job or contract that you had a 1 in 1,000 chance of getting, were you lucky? No, especially not if you applied and pitched 1,000 other places. If you say, "Ok, I'm going to keep trying to get what I want until I do" you'll get it.
@buknoybobo
11 жыл бұрын
Except for the fact that Pushing against tower regen (AKA backdooring) is usually frowned upon.
@joeriddle90
11 жыл бұрын
That tether stun
@SonNguyen-pi6jq
11 жыл бұрын
[A] is the winner !!! At the end, It's all about winning the game. Very sorry for Na'Vi.
@taztazmanian223
10 жыл бұрын
Sad really wish navi had won but hey alliance ftw they are really good kudos
@bgtguwest
11 жыл бұрын
Good luck Have fun. Back from wc3 days.
@foolthatpool
11 жыл бұрын
How do you counter fountain hooking? Stun target + fountain hook = 100% dead hero every time. Backdooring can be countered with many hero's, one space cow in particular dominates natures prophet.
@Consural
11 жыл бұрын
Stopped reading after "Wisp and Prophet aren't strong." They are top tier ban/picks,and are among the strongest heroes in the game.They are picked/banned in almost every professional game.
@TehnQ
11 жыл бұрын
good luck have fun
@noobtubingpirate
11 жыл бұрын
You are kidding me right? The split push Alliance used to win was boring? Our opinion are on the opposite ends of spectrum brother. It was thrilling for me to see the team that is losing in gold and xp use a risky strategy to win.
@EpEDlxD0
11 жыл бұрын
I am agree with you. However, it is not even an abuse.
@renefranciscocarballocalde2244
6 жыл бұрын
When i see the hero picks i always think if navi pick omniknight and not bane they would win
@benchsengco8989
10 жыл бұрын
Great Team Alliance :D
@SonNguyen-pi6jq
11 жыл бұрын
When will the fifth game start ?
@noobtubingpirate
11 жыл бұрын
how is backdooring an ugly win? It is an awesome strategy man. This game is all about creativity. There are many strategies that can be used to win and each has a counter to it. If anything, wasn't Fountain hooking more of a cheap strategy than back dooring?
@XCWARRIOR91
11 жыл бұрын
because if they pop bans on them it leaves other champs open like naga and alliance is notorious for their naga play. games really can be decided by picks and bans
@Consural
11 жыл бұрын
WOW AMAZING SPLIT PUSHES,THEY CAN TP AND A-CLICK CREEPS HOLY SHIT
@nordicpoisonhd2969
11 жыл бұрын
Read with caution. ''as it requires alkot of things including timing,skill,luck,experience etc.'' LUCK?
@pkshd
11 жыл бұрын
BD and Split Push are ugly because the game doesn't end with one final battle, but instead the base just crumbles. Its unsatisfying for those of us who aren't playing. I hated watching Tong Fu lose to fountain hooks as well, but at least requires strong timing and execution.
@Nanijoe10
11 жыл бұрын
You use anything in your disposal to win. I think Na'Vi can understand that more then anyone(fans should too), or did you forget that Tonfu vs Na'Vi game where they had to use fountain hooks in order to win? In the end, it's not all about how you win, it's about winning. That means winning by team fights, back-dooring or any strat available. Any Dota 2 player should understand this, hell any MOBA player should.
@comatthew6
11 жыл бұрын
The sad thing was it wasn't even backdooring creeps were there and it was just a standard split push. So many butthurt Na`Vi fans (not you :P). I love it.
@ErsGebb
11 жыл бұрын
when they bann them they pick naga and chen and alliance has so strong combos based on chen and naga siren.
@thetute59
11 жыл бұрын
I can't agree with "if it's in the game, then it's legit". Things get patched for a reason, but it is true that bd has been in the game since I remember.
@clouz041
11 жыл бұрын
hahaha I LOVE BACK DOOR!! this is excellent strategy man ... this is crazy game ... great game !!! ALLIANCE .... you should protect your tower at all cost and mother ancient
@Consural
11 жыл бұрын
The current metagame is aimed towards banning some strong heroes. If you don't ban the strong heroes,the Alliance will pick split push heroes.And vice versa. You simply CANNOT pick against it.
@apologize8876
9 жыл бұрын
good skill
@xTZeronx
11 жыл бұрын
Worth noticing aswell is that I also agree that teamfights are a lot more entertaining than splitpushing.
@karl6615
11 жыл бұрын
you play to win.
@alhussainalrawi1
11 жыл бұрын
what does backdoor mean ???
@Floakaflow
11 жыл бұрын
Alright. Then I just think it's the wrong way to approach any match.
@lHDISMAEL00
11 жыл бұрын
Furion is taken for that a carry that push when the enemy team is far
@karl6615
11 жыл бұрын
Xboct's from Moscow or keiv, can't remember. Their old lineup was like half russian.
@Lquark
11 жыл бұрын
That looks like a stout shield, not aegis of immortal.
@Floakaflow
11 жыл бұрын
Ain't saying Fountain Hooks are easy. Not the right way winning a game, because the actual kill damage comes nowhere by Pudge. Simply using a not yet fixed bug, that is what annoys me. Na'vi still earned my respect this tournament, i mean they were outstanding. Not as much as my favourite Team Alliance with Akke in it :P
@p3drozroom
11 жыл бұрын
AT THE END: " I know you're a great commentator, but please stop talking shit"
@sianzinhow
11 жыл бұрын
Xboct is a beast
@randiwoww4268
11 жыл бұрын
winning lane is not the objective of DotA. winning team fight is not the objective of DotA. destroying the ancient is the main objective. and you should have a strategy to achieve that objective. including split push strategy and against back-door regen. sorry if my english isnt good
@Polored1066
11 жыл бұрын
I don't even know if alliance won a single game by pushing against tower regen... every time, Admiralbulldog brought some creeps with him
@grondoIamer
11 жыл бұрын
and you should have a strategy to defend the splitpush aswell. winning lane and teamfights is not the objective of dota, but it helps to win the game.
@saintconnnor
11 жыл бұрын
wait, you dislike alliance style of play but root for Fnatic???
@TopGunWrathOfGod777
11 жыл бұрын
good luck have fun :)
@MrKimosun
11 жыл бұрын
what is GL HF?
@PartyBasse
11 жыл бұрын
U cant really complain about wisp being op. The upper bracket matches between (A) and Navi. navi picked wisp 2 times and still got owned. and in this series they picked it twice as well so. Navi being stupid not recongnize alliance strengh.
@robot97dan
11 жыл бұрын
Sigh..Wisp too OP..ban please! @@ Good commentating, real fun!!! Keep it up ld lumi :)
@rellicbeats
10 жыл бұрын
as soon as picking was done i knew navi was fucked
@noobtubingpirate
11 жыл бұрын
and bd doesnt take skill for execution? Honestly, imo Fountain hooking is much easier. Just a little timing. And that's the point. It is the strategy. It is not the stronger team that wins, but the one with a better strategy.
@CarlosCapillo
11 жыл бұрын
[A] is so damn strong
@Consural
11 жыл бұрын
That still means it is involved...
@leonid313
11 жыл бұрын
What THE SHIT?! "the team that wins will win 1.4 million DOLLAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" what about being the best team in the freaking world?! ffs its also an honor to be the #1 team in the internationals.. not just the money -_-
@yusufadiwinata9165
10 жыл бұрын
io as key of game since game 1 LOL
@oldmarcussales
10 жыл бұрын
The key was not to die in the first night. Na'Vi simply gave that game trying to kill Nightstalker instead of just flee away.
@yusufadiwinata9165
10 жыл бұрын
haha GG man.. i cant keep eyes away.. amazing and 2014 we'll se the next champion
@TheDanishBully
10 жыл бұрын
yusuf adiwinata hoping it will be Fnatic :p
@Consural
11 жыл бұрын
1.I am not a Na'Vi fanboy.I was rooting for Mousesports and Fnatic. 2.I have never bet on a Dota game.Its stupid,as all betting games are. 3.I simply hate seeing boring games of dota.That's why I am opposing Alliance's gameplay style.That's what I don't like,I'm not saying these because I like or dislike these teams.
@skyhunter307
11 жыл бұрын
this is money we're talking about.. big big money. ur thought doesn't matter. just saying =D
@Remedynr
11 жыл бұрын
honestly the whole Grand championship felt a bit semi-staged
@NiklasLeorn
11 жыл бұрын
Well for the current version that's the best they can offer. There's that flaw with dota, global heroes are just too mobile. I agree with you though, rat dota is bad for various reasons. It's good when it first surfaces - anything new is good. But when it is played to the death you need to change it in favor for newer, better strategies. The thing is, Alliance didn't play rat doto until the last match. And it's Navi's fault for giving up Wisp - they were confident they could take the game w/Bat
@jackpoole8200
11 жыл бұрын
What's with all the complaining about split pushing. So what, it's used in pub games. What's wrong with pro teams using it? Yeah it's not nice to watch if its against your team but if it wins the game for a team and they have the lineup for it, then they're gonna use it at every opportunity. Just stfu complaining and if your gonna, don't embarrass yourself doing it.
@richardyan7288
11 жыл бұрын
they dont care about the audience, they care about the fucking money.
@RetardskillMe
11 жыл бұрын
Lol. Well, i didn't really play Dota 2. But i was a total Dota fan back then, until i realized life is much more than 10 heroes on a digital map. So I guess the dota world changed a lot...
@xTZeronx
11 жыл бұрын
Well, I have to disagree here. I find a successful fountain hook easier than a successful splitpush. Why? Dendi Pudge. If/when Dendi lands a hook, all that is left is timing and Na'VI doesn't lack that. When splitpushing however, you have to consider the fact you might be ganked and therefore you must have great map awareness. You have to choose the right moments when to safely splitpush and when not to etc. This only applies to professional Dota ofc. In MM splitpush wins 9 times out of 10.
@alecharmson8961
10 жыл бұрын
The throws at 7:30
@fabianthecownip
10 жыл бұрын
No hotkeys on powers? how do they play?
@ahriman935
10 жыл бұрын
Who said you see their interface with THEIR hotkeys?
@TheNecrumDavengers
11 жыл бұрын
Alliance FTW!!
@jajomer
11 жыл бұрын
Fountain hooks take skill ...
@nemesisrag
11 жыл бұрын
the only dps of na'vi has alchemist so build life after speells u can burn out all team!
@Consural
11 жыл бұрын
Less than %50 win rate in what?Pubs? Also Wisp won them the game.If prophet was alone,Na'Vi could easily stop him If you consider split pushing impressive,then I recommend you watch some of Na'Vi's games.Not just international games,other tournaments as well. Alliance can never match the individual skill of Na'Vi players,at all.That's why they resort to split pushing instead of teamfighting. Also,their old team,NoTidehunter,was a tier 2-3 team.They are succesful only because of the current meta
@Nomoredie
11 жыл бұрын
In the last fight xboct spent his bkb to kill prophet and he just instant bought back and tp back to fight... Such a waste ... they should focus gyro while bkb ... Minor details massive results
@paOl061
11 жыл бұрын
[A]lliance FTW!
@mastertwitter09
11 жыл бұрын
Even Tong-Fu can eat Na`Vi.
@Consural
11 жыл бұрын
I guess you MUST BE new to English. 1.Individual skill is %50 of the game.The other half is teamwork 2.Yes I agree,what does that have to do with this? 3.They did have dps,your point being? 4.They picked them.They knew they couldn't match Na'Vi with teamfight heroes.They went with sneaky split push strats. 5.There is nothing to evaluate,its just "OH LOL WE CAN'T WIN FIGHT,GO SPLIT PUSH" pub strat.Nothing CLEVER. You know what's clever? Level 1 roshan TP.That was clever.This is NOT old alliance.
@MrAngrygerman
11 жыл бұрын
Game Start: 9:20
@Consural
11 жыл бұрын
5-man RP IS amazing,as it requires a lot of things including timing,skill,luck,experience etc. What does Alliance do?See navi pushing mid tower?Okay,wisp and ck goes bot,prophet goes top. Thats it.No "next level tactics",no "impressive plays",just good old fashioned split pushing rat doto that a PUB PLAYER can do. Oh wait,that's why AdmiralBulldog is in the team.Right.Why am I even questioning that?
@Bandong1994
11 жыл бұрын
33:05 I think Luminous pissed his pants lol
@bidragon88
11 жыл бұрын
U cannot back door in dota 2, For example , you can't smash tier3 tower unless tier1 and tier2 towers got taken down , do you know that concept ? -___- Furion did split push, not back door. Think before you talk mate!
@Rakinroul
11 жыл бұрын
so switch channel nextime, we dont care what do you think
@pkshd
11 жыл бұрын
I never said that. Don't put words in my mouth. I said that split push and backdoor are boring to watch, not that they're braindead simple to do.
@Great-Dao-of-Elegance
8 жыл бұрын
Question if Oracle ult alc while he is in ult does he heal more? cause Oracle ' s ult increases the amount of heal u get right?
@Great-Dao-of-Elegance
8 жыл бұрын
While delaying the damage u take
@SDB_Dev
8 жыл бұрын
+Joseph Bauyon Yes, it will heal more
@Great-Dao-of-Elegance
8 жыл бұрын
Stephen Damm Bøås so why wouldnt they use that technique i mean alch would be pretty much unkillable cause i myself had to fight a similar combo where bristle had octarine and oracle combo cant even make bristle half his hp
@SDB_Dev
8 жыл бұрын
+Joseph Bauyon Its not worth getting oracle just because of that.. its not that op. Oracle is often picked to counter bat, so if you're up against bat and you have alch, sure.. Its just not that great of a combo, its not bad.. but hardly something to first/pick ban in this patch
@Great-Dao-of-Elegance
8 жыл бұрын
Stephen Damm Bøås bro its the same concept mineski used to beat alliance on huskar and dazzle u just need to keep ur main hero alive to kill them thats all :D
@SuperM4tz3
11 жыл бұрын
this is a case for google translator :D
@MrGCGameplay
11 жыл бұрын
IO RULEZ!
@Carl-lm5mz
8 жыл бұрын
at around 18 mins navi completely threw this game away. Alch had bought no items, it was night time, gyro was going for a fighting build, and s4 was doing nothing in the early game on an early game hero. Navi could have made this 3-1 if they didnt push that tower.
@TheQueHegan
7 жыл бұрын
NS isnt an early game hero, hes a mid game hero. The first night is usually spent farming, maybe a gank or two/. Its the second night when the fun really starts. But yeah, Alch not spending any money and Na'vi still pushing....big mistake.
@Carl-lm5mz
7 жыл бұрын
TheQueHegan he is an early game hero compared to other mids
@Carl-lm5mz
7 жыл бұрын
TheQueHegan also ns can do a shit ton at night
@TheQueHegan
7 жыл бұрын
Carl B Then Puck is similarly early game. And he was getting out cs-ed by NS. But both are mid game dominators.
@TheQueHegan
7 жыл бұрын
Carl B Yes but generally you dont have the levels+farm to do much during the first night. Which is why you often see NS keep on farming during it, unless the team can set up easy ganks.
@Consural
11 жыл бұрын
Navi beats most teams with Pudge,a pubstomp hero. All teams are worse than pubbers then?
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