At that range they could have opened up the cargo bay doors and chucked beer cans at it.
@vikorovstock2432
11 ай бұрын
They REALLY wanted to destroy it.
@arklaw8306
11 ай бұрын
That would have been overkill.
@Commander_Raveth
11 ай бұрын
Warcrime.
@pantherowow77
10 ай бұрын
Even Marines aren't dumb enough to waste beer!
@whensomethingcriesagain
10 ай бұрын
What do you think the MAC was loaded with?
@battenburg6089
11 ай бұрын
You know, I never understood why they needed mac rounds to destroy the spire, surely a longsword bombing run could have done the trick.
@chrisp7326
11 ай бұрын
Probably wanted to send the Covenant a message, "you mess with us, you get the big gun." Jorge was even surprised they were using MAC round instead of traditional bombardments Covenant humbled the UNSC real quick with the super carrier though
@terrorreign7793
11 ай бұрын
kinda like your mom LMAOAOOAOOAOOAOA@@chrisp7326
@gohsk1512
11 ай бұрын
We know from halo 2 that the only way longswords were able to damage shielded covenant ships is when they intentionally opened holes in the shield to fire energy weapons through. Mac rounds and heavy missile bombardment were the only reliable way to bring down this protection. We can reasonably assume that this spire has similar shielding to defect unsc fleet bombardment. Using nuclear missiles might be a different story but at that point your doing more harm to your valuable military production planet than good.
@_spooT
11 ай бұрын
@@chrisp7326 yeah, but the UNSC did the same when they blew up their biggest carrier by hitting it right on the nuts. Knowing how zealous they were, that must've blew some morale
@siomai6739
11 ай бұрын
@@_spooTYeah. No wonder the reinforcement Covie armada that just slipped-in after the destruction of the Super-carrier turned Reach into a warcrime-all-you-can buffet.
@richardlew3667
11 ай бұрын
I still think it was unnecessary for the vessel to come in that close to its target.
@Goldenfightinglink
11 ай бұрын
Bad writing/directing Edit: nothing, just micheal bay transformer fans piping up
@eliflores9819
11 ай бұрын
@@Goldenfightinglink No, just rule of cool like they did with the Tip of the Spear cutscene
@sphere117gaming
11 ай бұрын
@@Goldenfightinglinkthe fuck? No. It was about the UNSC making a statement, it’s something Jorge even referenced during the campaign about the big guns. Unfortunately the UNSC could of never of predicted there’d actually be a super carrier. In fact the entire battle of reach of a cascade of unexpected events and the subsequent losses. A good example is the entire planets command bunker. It literally got hit by a fucking stray plasma torpedo by pure chance. Crippled the UNSC Anyone who says this particular moment isn’t realistic or is bad writing or something. Is terribly wrong as it only means you don’t understand the military, sometimes the military likes to do things in a show of force and excessively. And the UNSC did it there because they thought they could. Unfortunately they didn’t know about what was really hidden there and suffered. Doesn’t help it was also probably a maneuver to help bolster the troop morale. After all this is literally your second last fucking most precious world your entire species control…. Now it’s been discovered by the very enemy that seeks nothing but your death. If that ain’t something that would be cause despair and riots idk what would.
@griffin1095
11 ай бұрын
@@sphere117gaming I’m sorry but bruh, that in no way excused why they had to be only a few hundred feet from the spire itself. MAC cannons have a range of at leat 16,000 kilometers lmfao, they could’ve shot the tower from waaaaaay further away. This is literally just the rule of cool, and maybe for the sake of getting the player to easily understand what’s happening. It’s an illogical scene, just like that warthog charge at the beginning of the level, but hey it looks cool so fuck it. Also boosting morale doesn’t require them to be at that range either, just hearing that they destroyed the spire with a mac gun would be plenty.
@Major_Zephyr
11 ай бұрын
@@sphere117gaming It literally doesn't make logical sense. If they wanted to make a statement, they could have still hit it with MAC rounds from orbit, or at least from miles away. No reason to get THAT close. Obviously this is done purely for cinematic reasons, and not tactical or realistic reasons. Like the other guy says too, the Tip of the Spear cutscene with all the warthogs is absolutely NOT realistic in any way. Driving straight at Covenant forces over completely open ground? A futuristic cavalry charge field battle? Absolutely nonsensical, but it sure looks cool.
@sam23696
10 ай бұрын
It just shows how comically close they put the frigate to fire a MAC round. There's a lot of things like this in games if you view them from other angles. The experience of the player in the moment on the ground always comes first, realism takes a back seat.
@EngY2502
11 ай бұрын
1:09 This version of Spire would have been interesting. I'd imagine an invasion game mode where the unsc had to go back to Grafton to destroy data.
@thatonestrangerwholikestop866
10 ай бұрын
If i was a mod maker i would be making that right freakin now
@narfoshin3726
9 ай бұрын
Lore wise: the UNSC would have had a million other things to worry about including Sword Base which would have had way more intel than the Grafton Gameplay wise: it would be sick as fuck I’m in.
@josephmontanaro2350
8 ай бұрын
That would be a fun custom modded mission
@josephmontanaro2350
8 ай бұрын
@@narfoshin3726Cole protocol would still need them to verify its nav data was destroyed
@danielefabbro822
11 ай бұрын
The Grafton was a great frigate. Honor to the crew and the Captain. 😤✊
@purporium6902
10 ай бұрын
Super-carrier enters in da chat*
@danielefabbro822
10 ай бұрын
@@purporium6902 Jorge enters the chat
@aghouser4159
2 ай бұрын
@@danielefabbro822 Arbiters main fleet enters everywhere in the chat.
@danielefabbro822
2 ай бұрын
@@aghouser4159 Master Chief enter the chat.
@eymn-13
Жыл бұрын
love all the behind the scenes videos you've been doing. i hope to see more from you! ^_^
@J_C_CH
10 ай бұрын
I've always loved the little camera tricks they pulled for the cutscenes in Halo games. Multiple versions of the grafton, multiple versions of the spire, etc.
@TheRealJman87
11 ай бұрын
This is what happens when you decide what each shot will look like before you figure out it doesn't actually make sense
@MeadeJ67
10 ай бұрын
No, this is just how video game cutscenes are made...
@That_1_Bohemian
11 ай бұрын
Why did it need to be so close, cockeyed gunner needed a clear shot.
@bearjuncture
Жыл бұрын
Been looking for a video like this for a while, thanks.
@justinm.5536
11 ай бұрын
...wel that wasnt worth it...Even as a kid playing this I always wondered why they chose the MAC cannon at point blank range.
@purporium6902
10 ай бұрын
Uuuuh, why not? :)
@santa1797
9 ай бұрын
To ensure results
@jamesfra1311
11 ай бұрын
Not close enough.
@Radnick0024
10 ай бұрын
"Chief, how close are you?"
@cqb3814
11 ай бұрын
It’s probably still in the water right now
@333puggles333
10 ай бұрын
*glass
@purporium6902
10 ай бұрын
Probably melted
@matts7125
9 ай бұрын
I always thought the ship was way too close in the cutscene. Would have been just as cool if it was a little farther away.
@RyannEpic
11 ай бұрын
Would be dope to see this area after the ship crashed especially since this shows where it ends up. Maybe the lake is dried up from all the glassing
@InvaderZim_
10 ай бұрын
As big as that ship is, a bunch of the crew had to have survived
@whensomethingcriesagain
10 ай бұрын
Not that likely tbh, getting hit by a glassing beam alone would probably kill the lot of them from radiation, to say nothing of the crash, potential reactor leaks, or drowning when they hit the water.
@araknidude
9 ай бұрын
shot in the middle popped the rear engines so i figure every hallway got filled with radioactive fire as soon as the beam fired
@whensomethingcriesagain
9 ай бұрын
@@araknidude Hell, we learn later that the glassing beam itself puts out radiation in the millions of rads, when 1000 is generally fatal to most people, so everyone in the ship was probably more or less melted by it
@seemslegit6203
7 ай бұрын
Its actually not that big, theyre only about 250 meters long
@ozonius_6859
11 ай бұрын
All it needs is a live leak logo
@Otterdisappointment
3 ай бұрын
“MAC ROUNDS?! IN ATMOSPHERE?!”
@brianrasmussen1711
10 ай бұрын
I can only imagine seeing one your most powerful ships reduced to flames in one shot
@whensomethingcriesagain
10 ай бұрын
Well it is only a frigate, which is the second-lowest class of full warship, only above the corvettes. So it's not really like watching a battlecruiser or anything like that getting wiped, but the appearance of a Covenant supercarrier is probably the most despair-inducing sight possible for some other reasons
@gandalf2616
10 ай бұрын
Mean while somewhere on the covenant super carrier there's two elites saying to each other...bro the Wi-Fis down what's the deal? Then they see the explosion look at one another while saying softly...laser time?...laser time.
@brokenleftearbuglord9106
8 ай бұрын
Always thought it was goofy that they put the frigate so close. Goofy that they used the frigate at all. It’s like shooting a glass bottle with a pistol with 1 inch of distance between the two.
@ollanius_papyrus80
11 ай бұрын
Why didn’t they just use a havok nuke? You know, like every other time Spartans needed to destroy a covenant structure?
@richardched6085
11 ай бұрын
A Havok Nuke (30 megatons) would wipe out everything within a few kilometers. All they needed was this pitifully subkiloton MAC round. Even the glassing beam didn't appear all that powerful. Plus as made clear in the following level, Reach didn't have very many Nuclear weapons on hand and the ones they did have were onboard ships that were destroyed by the Supercarrier.
@Radnick0024
10 ай бұрын
They're trying to save the planet, not make it worse
@sam23696
10 ай бұрын
This is one of the very few times we actually see a frigate and see it using a MAC round. There's a lot of them used in the lore but almost none used in the games, and especially back in these days the idea of a MAC cannon was an insanely cool idea. It's not about realism, it's about them wanting to show off a MAC shot.
@sammenell2897
8 ай бұрын
Remember Grafton ✊
@juukame
10 ай бұрын
All that buildup to the MAC rounds and in the end it sounded like less than a little pop.
@tauIrrydah
10 ай бұрын
Jesus who wrote those physics, Space Engineers?
@TheRageEnterprise
10 ай бұрын
Was there an infected Spartan in the spire?
@AzureRath97
10 ай бұрын
I knew it was close but that's something else entirely lol
@justintimeboi31
11 ай бұрын
Now that i see it clearly, why did they shoot it that close?
@griffin1095
11 ай бұрын
Cause there isn’t much logic put into a lot of Halo’s cutscenes tbh. I love the games but shit like this and the beginning of tip of the spear where they just drive an army of warthogs directly at the enemy (the same level btw lmao) are just rlly stupid, but hey they look cool.
@richardjbarlow
11 ай бұрын
Engine limitations. The cutscenes are rendered in-game, so it has to be within the bounds of the loaded level.
@cromtuiseagain
11 ай бұрын
Camera angles and size of the map. Looking at it through the cutscene makes it seem like it's further away, which worked. We're all just discovering that it's closer that it actually was like right now
@ShadonicX7543
11 ай бұрын
@@griffin1095well lore wise as a flex - in-game bc it was designed like that on purpose for aesthetic
@Domi39
10 ай бұрын
Because Bungie always followed the rule of cool.
@MikMoen
11 ай бұрын
This makes me appreciate Infinite's in-game real time cutscenes. I don't like seeing all the inconsistencies when you peer behind the curtain like this.
@madjack1748
11 ай бұрын
you're not supposed to see it, that's the point.
@chief117s15
11 ай бұрын
This was back in 2010? Who cares? All games do this to some extent. Seems like you're a baby who can't handle it.
@Zumboria
11 ай бұрын
Infinite would have the exact same level of inconsistencies as soon as you pull the camera back. Every game does this, why would you render something properly if it is never going to be seen on screen? Makes no sense.
@billead
11 ай бұрын
Exactly probablythe reason why games are so poorly optimised these days 🤷♂️
@ryanhodin5014
11 ай бұрын
This is just how games work. Nothing the camera can't see is rendered properly, walls don't have a second side where the camera isn't going to be. Why would someone pay artists to make animations the player is explicitly never allowed to see? Every second of animation is a whole lot more time and money invested in an animator, in quality assurance, testing, everything. I'd rather they spend that time and money polishing things that actually matter for the game instead of things you have to break the game to see.
@saintsman2010
11 ай бұрын
F
@hardcoregamingadventure8416
9 ай бұрын
That is just stupid the way they moved it off the ground to destroy it is lame make the ship move in a different direction so it actually looks like it’s real 🥱😒
@atch4764
8 ай бұрын
cutscene magic, theres probably a good reason they did it, and its not like youre supposed to see it this way either
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