Impressive, Very nice, Now let's see Paul Allen's Ending Explained video
@iamzeronothing
3 жыл бұрын
Look at that subtle alternative explanation
@findlayrankin9769
3 жыл бұрын
The tasteful irony oh my god...
@kabir1365
3 жыл бұрын
It even has a background music
@YuhYus_
3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAH
@bigshmoke9653
3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god, it's even monetized
@Koxocw
3 жыл бұрын
What's frustrating about this film is that no matter how deep you dig you still end up with the same two answers
@Chrisalv
3 жыл бұрын
What gave it away to me from seeing the film was when Jean opened up his desk and found him book with all the illustrations. That’s a major clue for me that it was all made up in his head
@d-rabbitfor5398
2 жыл бұрын
@@Chrisalv could be fantasies which he then turned into reality though. dont think that those are a clear explanation.
@bmo14lax
2 жыл бұрын
@@d-rabbitfor5398 I think he murdered some people and some were fantasies. Like maybe the unknown blood at the laundromat and maybe one more prostitute, but the rest is him slipping into delusion. Who knows. So many possibilities
@andrewroberts7428
2 жыл бұрын
that's why it's such a brilliant work of art
@Screm
2 жыл бұрын
There is a third one i read somewhere else in the comments - the conspiracy theory where his father knew his son was sick & what he was doing, but he paid to have it cleaned up to save his own self image as well as his families image He's only mentioned once in the movie as an off-comment why he's still working at the job if he hates it (I believe) It also makes sense when you think about it, he paid to cover up his sons actions but didn't think to get him the help he needs cause he wasn't thinking about his sons well being, just their images 2 main reasons this is supported, the real estate agent scene where she already knew who he was pretty much but didn't outright say it And the lawyer at the end, he raises his eyebrow when the camera is on Batement almost to sign "Stop talking"
@hakimonn
5 жыл бұрын
So basically;he actually killed all those people but,people around him are so obssesed with themselves they just don't care. One another good example is how the character Louis sees Patrick with him a suspicious bag, he only cares about where he got it from. The story is literally a satire. It just shows how self-centered the 80s yuppie culture and life-style is.
@zanyaboutit
3 жыл бұрын
"It just shows how self-centered the 80s yuppie culture and life-style is." Is it also a sarcasm? LOL. I laughed at that point. It is today's world that it reached its maximum pinnacle LOL.
@Koxocw
3 жыл бұрын
Why did the detective not arrest him? He was the last person seen with Paul Allen
@mkn.567
3 жыл бұрын
well there are also theories that his very wealthy and powerful father is paying people off to look the other way and clean up his mess. Think of the lady in Allen's apartment. But, yes, the bullet point is that people are so self centered and materialistic that a murder could be happening right in front of them and they'd only notice what you're wearing and the brand of your luggage
@ravenmoore8234
3 жыл бұрын
@@zanyaboutit it literally what the book was made to call out yuppie our generation isn't a self centered we just have been so desensitized that we anylazize everything and choose to ignore it because of the mass depression we have now days
@mic9162
3 жыл бұрын
That true but its not true the 80s is just like now too lol You know some thing too I just hate with how everyone has to be so fucking fake and annoying why can't they shut the fuck up and be themselves when I was little I was happy but now Ive had too adopt to these people with fake personalities i have too control myself and just play along like a game I know I didn't have too say this but it feels good to say
@dailydoseofliterature3263
3 жыл бұрын
The lawyer covers for him just like the real estate lady. The lawyer doesn't want a court case.
@haiderzaidi6571
2 жыл бұрын
it maybe different in the US but in my country lawyers are paid per case. If that is the case there aswell, the lawyer has all the motivation to want a court case.
@Screm
2 жыл бұрын
@@haiderzaidi6571 It could have also been a lawyer on retainer, even if it's case-by-case retainers i believe have a hefty upfront cost for retainers (Which they could have definitely paid off)
@greenlamp9219
Жыл бұрын
idk if i can believe that. lawyers love court cases it would have been work for him and a good opportunity for self centered publicity. if he really did care about himself like the theory says then he would have gone through with it
@polreamonn
Жыл бұрын
@@haiderzaidi6571 In-house lawyer. He's there to protect the business.
@haiderzaidi6571
Жыл бұрын
@@polreamonn lmao thanks for making this very obvious observation, idk how I missed that 😭😭
@neptunes_oeuvre
5 жыл бұрын
When I first watched it my thought was that the lawyer kept saying that to keep him from going to prison
@Jason-gb7tt
4 жыл бұрын
Same
@CubeBizz
3 жыл бұрын
Bro same Now I feel so stupid after I watched many analyses of the film saying Paul Allen is alive And that the lawyer ordered the renovation to clean up the mess
@neptunes_oeuvre
3 жыл бұрын
@@CubeBizz dude.. what ?!?
@owi7326
3 жыл бұрын
@@CubeBizz did u even watch the video?
@patrickbatman141
2 ай бұрын
My interpretation is that he actually believes he had dinner with Paul but it was someone else. The movie puts a very strong emphasis on how much all these men are no different from eachother in clothing choices, haircuts or personality, hence why Paul thinks he's talking to Marcus Halberstram and not Patrick all that time. The lawyer was probably drunk at that dinner with multiple people in attendance, vaugely remembers hearing the name Paul Allen mentioned while there, and believes one of the people at that dinner was Paul when it wasn't.
@avertismentguy62
3 жыл бұрын
Very nice, let's see Paul Allen's analysis.
@iamzeronothing
3 жыл бұрын
Look at that subtle alternative explanation
@croissantlover1
3 жыл бұрын
imagine someone making a movie where the REAL Paul Allen figures out what happened and must take up the fight against this culture and slowly somehow succeds. "This has changed.. Everything."
@-Siculus-Hort-
3 жыл бұрын
FEED ME A STRAY CAT
@davidjohnson5703
Жыл бұрын
I just got his theory. At dinner. The other night at Nobu. He agrees with ME!
@retardedvaxxedliberal
4 жыл бұрын
I watched this movie twice and I still didn't fully realize the meaning of this movie until years later. This movie is a masterpiece, but frustrating when you don't have the context
@enriquecomas933
3 жыл бұрын
neoliberal capitalism. The "too big to fail" mantra where no matter what you do as rich and powerful, you can't lose. Aka Martha Stewart, OJ, etc. You can commit murder, inside trading, tax evasion, whatever and still keep winning. Hell look at Al Capone and even to some extent Donald Trump. Literally has been accused of numerous things yet he dodges them because, they are either not true, which is the usual case or you can't bring someone that big down due to status. Hillary Clinton is another as was Richard Nixon. So many famous people who dodged the "common life" which is worse than jail.
@Javed-xf4gf
2 жыл бұрын
Explain pls
@milton7763
2 жыл бұрын
Or you should have read the book…
@noahziegler3478
2 жыл бұрын
@@milton7763 the book is top 5 all time. The OCD is way thicker than on the screen.
@Zekander
2 жыл бұрын
the movie is also very tame, compared to the extreme drastic violence of the book. Bateman is a narcissistic psychopath in the costume of a handsome successful yuppie. He is portrayed too much as a kind of a victim by his mental issues in the movie. He is a cold, rational, and emotional dead inside husk, who lets his inner monster run free, as soon he sees an opportunity to get away with it. The only movie moment, when he is clearly hallucinating, is at the end, when the cash machine orders him the "feed- me- a- stray- kitten" message and he shoots the shocked lady afterwards instead the kitten, because he loses his grip over reality. The kitten is like a symbol of his sentimentality for "Les Miserables", while mocking and killing a homeless person merciless in another scene. His inner monologue in the book is permanently most dispiteful of others, who he all judges lower than himself. He only respects success like Trump, Ivana, Madonna, "Les Miz" or infamous serial killers.
@shd_khan
3 жыл бұрын
The clue is in bateman’s monologue - there is no real Bateman, he doesn’t exist as a separate person. The entire movie is a fiction within a fiction, an imagining of being a real person when in fact he is indistinguishable from his coworkers. It’s based on freud’s narcissism of small differences framework - the need to find and exaggerate differences in order to preserve a feeling of separateness and self. What drives the character’s rage is the inability to articulate a separate identity - his generic music taste, the same taste in clothes/business cards/hair styles/glasses, etc. that he can’t break out of no matter how hard he tries.
@thomasgrabowski2202
3 жыл бұрын
great analysis! I love this
@sebagotds
3 жыл бұрын
do you mean that patrick just wanted to be different??? or he wanted to just stand out from the rest of his coworkers???
@shd_khan
3 жыл бұрын
@@sebagotds it’s not just about being different or wanting to stand out; that may have been true at some early stage in the life of the character. By the time we meet him he doesn’t know who he is in any real sense and in all likelihood hates his true self. It’s an existential crisis on a personal level that has morphed into a full blown psychosis. It’s not clear if he is actually committing the murders or just imagining them. Of course, that is my interpretation, the reviewer that posted this video interprets the murders to be real.
@sebagotds
3 жыл бұрын
@@shd_khan i heard that some interviewer asked the creator of the book about that and she tells that, in fact, bateman killed all that ppl. I think is what you said before about the existential crisis. but at the same time the movie shows (to me) that bateman accepts what he is.....a yuppie.
@shd_khan
3 жыл бұрын
@@sebagotds please share the link to the interviewer if you have it. I would be interested in hearing about it. Thanks
@humangarbage6559
Жыл бұрын
mostly because of the line "I guess I've killed 20 people, maybe 40" I like to think that Patrick definitely killed people he just couldn't distinguish between the people he actually killed or the ones he thought about/ hallucinated killing. and its up to interpretation who he really killed or didn't
@RurouniStarchild
8 ай бұрын
I think he's regarded as an unreliable narrator.
@felix4645
3 жыл бұрын
1:16 the bit about the Lawyer’s reaction totally makes sense. I hadn’t connected it before.
@eshaanbhat3732
2 жыл бұрын
For me it's all in his head because of two scenes , the first one being the hooker getting away from him and yelling at other people's door and a fricking chainsaw in the hall not waking anyone up , the second is the feed me the cat scene , bateman till that point was never shown to have a gun but suddenly he got a gun and went on a Killing spree but in the next scene is shown performing his morning routine again
@raintomato5245
2 жыл бұрын
What if, maybe, its both????? The cat and the girl in the hall was fake, but he really committed the other murders. I also believe that the lawyer didnt really have dinner with paul, but he thought he did, evidenced by him thinking Bateman was someone else, which ties into the fact that the story was a satire about the yuppies of new york.
@friedrichs.8004
2 жыл бұрын
@@raintomato5245 i think the lawyer is producing an alabi for him. Maybe his very rich father is destroying the traces id his crimes
@Screm
2 жыл бұрын
When i first watched the scene with the girl running through the hall my assumption was that he rented all the apartments out knowing what he was going to do beforehand, could be wrong but also possible
@gabriraul78
2 жыл бұрын
@@Screm i like your ideea
@idgit7825
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone heard the chainsaw go off, it’s just that everyone is so obsessed into their own lives they don’t care about it and that’s the narrative of the movie
@UntitledKirk
2 жыл бұрын
This is how I like movie explanations on YT: short and to the point. Good video.
@fakeone3443
2 жыл бұрын
What I noticed watching the movie is that in the final scenes, he seems to have unlimited shoots in his gun...
@dillanmatney9958
3 жыл бұрын
That makes sense, thank you so much. Just git done watching it still fresh in my mind to know that Bateman did kill most of the people.
@5persondude
2 жыл бұрын
I kind of assumed that he killed the homeless guy and his dog at the beginning, then started imagining all of the other murders either out of bloodlust or subconscious guilt. I also thought that Kimball (William Dafoe) was just another figment of Patrick’s imagination/conscience, because him pulling out that Huey Lewis CD so casually seems way too far-fetched for anything other than his conscience, since only he knows that he played that song when he killed Paul Allen
@aeronautisch
2 жыл бұрын
It could be that Kimball was suspicious of their first meeting so he poked around his neighbors asking if they heard anything suspicious the night before and all they came up with was the loud huey lewis music. Then he got the album himself and tried to bait Batemans reaction.
@zekun4741
Жыл бұрын
I think he did commit the murders but when he went on a rampage with the police, that whole sequence is just a hallucination or delusion. the ATM said "feed me a stray cat" that's about the only thing we can be certain of as being a hallucination. he shot more bullets than there are in a clip, and shooting at cars don't cause explosions in that manner. the police would be all over the place in a scenario like that and it would be on the news, which is why his lawyer thought it was a joke on the answering machine, it didn't happen.
@patrickbatman141
2 ай бұрын
@@zekun4741Totally agree, most logical explanation by far. Mary Harron even stated in an interview it's not all in his head. I personally believe the chainsaw sequence is also hallucination though, it's just too far fetched to believe he managed to not get caught there, and her banging on multiple apartment doors while screaming her head off to get not one single answer is ridiculous. He wouldn't of been able to get out of that one. Her body was lying in plain sight spilling a huge amount of blood in an apartment building and he was standing there naked screaming like a lunatic while wielding a damn chainsaw.
@majorsimmons2633
3 жыл бұрын
I watched the movie first time last night and thought the lawyer was giving him an alibi like you did. Also in the movie he is very paranoid and also has hallucinations such as the feed me a stray cat thing before his big massacre. Now the massacre itself probably wasn’t real but the killings of Paul Allen, the girls head that was in the fridge, the homeless man, and probably a few others were real.
@omegaswordbeam6459
2 жыл бұрын
I came to kind of a similar conclusion. Although I did have a third alternative: The Lawyer took the phone call seriously and covered up all the murders he did. And in the end when he gives him monologue it implies that he finally realised that everyone around him is as just the same, they probably killed some people as well, abused others, hell it’s Wall Street for crying out loud. But idk, might rewatch it at some point
@SlamJamMusic
Жыл бұрын
this is exactly what i thought, and it works perfectly for the message of the movie. yuppie culture enables psychopathy and created an environment where horrible people can get away with horrible things because status and power are the only things that matter.
@jackxiao9702
4 жыл бұрын
The answer is both. It's why this film is so great, both answers would work with different themes in the movie (though the police car blowing up and afterwards are clearly hallucinations"
@kissumisha
3 жыл бұрын
He killed someone mistakenly thinking it was Paul Allen.
@kyoto8241
3 жыл бұрын
No
@NothingToPointOut24
2 жыл бұрын
No he killed Paul Allen. But people around him mistake other people for Paul Allen, so Patrick will always get away with it. But Paul's last thought was that he was being killed by Marcus Halberstram.
@lucasbachmann
4 жыл бұрын
The bit of the interview I saw with the author she was saying she wanted it left more open ended and she was concerned that people were all in the "it's all in his head camp" and she said it is not. That really doesn't push it all the way to "it all happened." because then it is not open ended either. But I didn't watch the whole interview just a clip in some other video.
@everardotortoledo2456
3 жыл бұрын
Let’s see Paul Allen’s ending ...
@Unkn0wnGuy
Жыл бұрын
Lol best comment ever 🤣
@damianbyrne1664
3 жыл бұрын
I recommend reading the book, it is quite extraordinary. Although the ending is ambiguous, like Tom, I believe that Bateman really did commit the murders, the clues are there. And it fits with the whole narrative of the book - as an indictment of modern Western capitalism, society and culture. In this world of self-obsession, narcissism, horror and porn - Bateman's murderess spree goes unnoticed, and even ignored. Interestingly, the book was written in 1990, but I feel its even more relevant today.
@exstudent30
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. What the Author intended is somewhat more important than what the director intended.
@oldi184
2 жыл бұрын
What about the ATM machine displaying the message "feed me a stray cat". I don't get it. Was that his hallucination?
@exstudent30
2 жыл бұрын
@@oldi184 it seems to be so in the book. That whole section of the book is written like a film. (With the police shootout etc)
@Krow621
3 жыл бұрын
What you said made sense but how does the explain the old lady, 3-4 cops, receptionist, and janitor he killed all in one night with a gun? That just sounds hyper unrealistic that he was able to get way with those with little to no one looking into it.
@vahrzawofficialtracks
Жыл бұрын
Plus he kills a kid at the zoo in broad daylight in the book.
@chrisgrieve1121
3 жыл бұрын
I just watched this movie for the first time last night. What an amazing movie but the ending left me hanging. I think Bateman imagined all of the killings in his mind.
@Lodestar.
Жыл бұрын
Same here
@KyleC11
2 жыл бұрын
The lawyer was covering for him
@bba935
Жыл бұрын
The part that makes me think this was all in his head is the message on the ATM machine telling him to kill.
@dungusglumbus9946
Жыл бұрын
Ok. I always wondered why the lawyer called him Davis. When I first saw the ending, my theory was that this entire time, Bateman had actually been Davis, and it’s just that he has schizophrenia and he’s confusing himself with someone else or something
@doomast3r
3 жыл бұрын
The best explanation out there!!
@milton7763
2 жыл бұрын
People who wonder whether he really killed the people or not have missed the whole concept of the book. Bret Easton Ellis’s works are almost all about upperclass privileged youths who struggle to find any meaning in their lives as they have built their entire persona around a superficial, materialistic image. American Psycho has the exact same theme, but takes very different approach. Instead of being a ‘realistic’ story, it is an _allegory_ where Easton Ellis takes his perspective to the extreme: showing a psychopath who can only see people as tools to his own perverted pleasures and drawing a parallel with a New York elite society that is impervious to even this horrible truth as they’d rather ignore it than upset their own interests. The book is a beautiful work of art subtly and not so subtly drawing these parallels while conjuring up very detailed imagery.
@idgit7825
2 жыл бұрын
People who wonder whether he really killed people or not understand the concept of the book they just want to figure out the true ending
@milton7763
Жыл бұрын
@@idgit7825 Zooooooooofff!! That was the concept of the book flying right over your head…even after being spelled out to you…
@guccifer7874
Жыл бұрын
@@milton7763 ok
@GabrielBear
2 ай бұрын
No that’s incorrect he killed those people lol his lawyer covering for him the detective was looking for Paul Allen’s killer the room was cleaned by the lady to also cover up the killings
@qndj6449
3 күн бұрын
The real estate lady never blinks. She recognizes Bateman as her own kind.
@awediomusic2137
2 жыл бұрын
"This confession has meant nothing" because the stories of his heinous acts fell on deaf, self-centred ears. This is my new head canon.
@Lewis-ki1ub
2 жыл бұрын
It think both of your theories are somehow right. It shows how the people are too self focused and everyone ignores Bateman and him talking about liking to kill people (except for his secretary, the only person in this movie that does not seem focused on herself), but on the other hand, Bateman is mentally ill, which you can see at the pills he takes. He doesnt know what realy happend and what not (ending scene) and the magic of the movie is to put us in the same perspective which makes us feel like him a bit
@perfumepixie2237
Жыл бұрын
Spot on! I don't think this is black and white at all. Some murders happened. Some didnt. Everyone is superficial. Bateman is mentally ill. The whole thing is a head fuck. Cleverly written, black comedy. The book lurches from shocking vile murderous dark humour , to boring page after page monologue of batemans head . Genuis.
@theXops9
4 жыл бұрын
laws does not apply to the elite. Point of the movie.
@abbemartensson3850
3 жыл бұрын
Uuuh... These guys were not 'elite' at all.
@jamies6147
3 жыл бұрын
@@abbemartensson3850 He was the CEO of a wall street firm i think he’s pretty elite
@enriquecomas933
3 жыл бұрын
@@abbemartensson3850 They are 'elite'. The book insinuates that Bateman's father is an extremely rich and powerful person. Some theorize the massive law firm that protects his son here at the end. 27 year old 'VP' at a brokerage firm? Where do you see that today lol? Morgan Stanley brokers (now considered more like analysts) are around 32+ with small to medium accounts. Still young, but they are no VPs haha.
@abbemartensson3850
3 жыл бұрын
@@enriquecomas933 Hahahahaha. You think the elites work? Live in New york city? Get a reality check. LOL
@jamesevans2507
3 жыл бұрын
not even remotely the point
@leonmerluza6963
2 жыл бұрын
I’m just happy he didn’t kill the cat
@yiepengful
4 жыл бұрын
The investigator and all the traces he left the kill counts and blood shed can not ve hidden so easily by himself in such short time, police are much smarter than that, even if people get confused with who is who, there are ways to find out simply you realised he didnt clean up scenes and houses are almost all white, even if he get away with killing one person, he cant get away with killing police blowing up cars, helicopter searches, security guard, atm women, multi story apartment kill spree slaughter house with bodies, head in the fridge. The movie prove one thing is that he is psycho, all start with his imaginary, what he finally says, what he drew in the notebook. He hides it but he cant help to spill it out, drug abuse and its clearly social issue was the root and also ultimately his very own psychotic and psychpathic as he calls him self entity in a humanly body. Evil in a shell of a living body to try and fit in.
@markomarkovski9323
3 жыл бұрын
Or, it's how the people at Wall Street and generally the top 1% can get away with basically anything, maybe?!
@cutekanjii
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's even more ambiguous than did he or didn't he do the murders? Perhaps he actually did some of them and others were fantasies and its up to us to figure out which were real and which were in his head
@ToaRanen7
2 жыл бұрын
That's what I think, that some were real some weren't. And I think the larger point is that it doesn't matter which ones were real, him and all his colleagues are psychopaths that won't get punished.
@TomTheCurator
5 жыл бұрын
Finally it’s here.
@lucabrazi724
Жыл бұрын
This is one of my favourite movies first watched when I was 15 I'm 33 now and I still casually watch it over the years and I still don't understand the fkn movie which is probably why it draws me back such a masterpiece
@richardabanganjr.1669
Жыл бұрын
Here's my take: everything in the movie was not a pigment of Bateman's imagination. He committed those heinous crimes. However, after he confessed with his lawyer those crimes he committed, the lawyer tried to cover up his messed by doing the following: 1. He lied to the detective or authority that he had dinner twice with Paul in London; 2. He asked assistance with Bateman's father, considering that the latter owns the company. The father probably hid the dead bodies and cleaned Paul's apartment. Perhaps, the owner of Paul's apartment did indeed cleaned it; and 3. The lawyer pretended to mistake Bateman with Davis, so that they will not talk anymore for fear to be killed by a psycho. And then, he lied that he had dinner twice with Paul Allen in London; and There is also a chance that Bateman's friends know that he has mental illmess but they could not do anything about it because Bateman's father has influced on them. They might be fired, or otherwise.
@tenkin5105
2 жыл бұрын
In his latest book 'White', Bret Easton Ellis says that he doesn't want to give a definitive answer to whether Bateman actually did what he did or whether it is an hallucination. He does specify that Bateman is an unreliable narrator, but then again how absurd would it be for him to write a book if it's all an hallucination. Personally, I came up with a similar answer to the one of this video. It's more about representing the people in the 1980s as disconnected from reality to a point where a serial killer may run loose but nobody cares or takes it seriously.
@ashwadhwani
Жыл бұрын
The movie cheats us of the truth in the ending. Why did he not ask his lawyer how much he wanted to bet that Paul Allen is not alive ???
@milton7763
2 жыл бұрын
You could have resolved your doubts much quicker: read the book
@LironBerisha
Жыл бұрын
What I love about the movies fans culture is that the creater can literally tell you the response and everybody will ignore . And that's very cool , it gives the work another life.
@sapphyrus
2 жыл бұрын
To be honest it's Occam's Razor that he was totally mad and enacting in his mind rather than ALL the other people in the movie colluding with him unintentionally. Multiple times we are given evidence that he's totally bonkers while we're given no evidence that other people covered for his crimes. It's like Total Recall. Yeah sure you can take it for the social commentary but you can also take it for a mad ride of total delusion.
@DaLoganFrost
3 жыл бұрын
Agree. The realtor is the selling point for me. Thanks.
@FREECASHPRIZES
2 жыл бұрын
I think it was all in his mind, he killed people just on paper as shown in his drawings in the end. He didn't killed anyone and the director in her interview was lying to create confusion to keep it open ended
@yiepengful
4 жыл бұрын
He is a sick man, everything that has happened was all in his head. The actual occurance of the event does not align with his memories simply start with the story is narrated in first person point of view. It demonstrated drug use and dosage, materialism, the point was to showcase the inner demon which is what he described as his true self while his body as a shell. There are clues in almost all the scenes where the killings are made. The fantasy of him blowing up police cars, killing security guards with helicopter searching, whole building occupied with bodies, video tapes, targeted by the investigator and right after he gets back to usual routine is giving enough hints more and so forth. The note book that his secretary gone through is the only real part of him being expressed on paper, goresome and those were the imaginary picture he live in, on the flip side he is hiding all these energy within him waiting to escape and finally release his inner evil, kill spree of everyone around him. Highlight of the scene where ge took pills on the phone while speaking to his secretary shows that he certainly was relying on it to keep himself in controll, he is a psycho, american psycho marking the social issue of the time and revealing a true evil.
@satwinderdhariwal
4 жыл бұрын
i definitely agree with you people seem to miss the pills are in several scenes such as the bathroom, in his office draw also as hes taking them at the phone box. He mentions to the secretary that she needs to go or he thinks he will hurt her. He is imagining these thoughts and telling people but they wont listen. Hes trying to put out that hes got some psychotic behavior. There is also the scene where he runs through the building shoots the office receptionist who calls him Mr Smith which didn't really happen because during these times no one in wall street remembers each others name but then we cut back to another scene where he actually runs back in the to sign in for the receptionist who doesn't actually know his name which is more real. He is imagining all this stuff in his head its not real. Hes running away from his own demons. The girl sees all the imaginations going through hi head in his dairy he hasn't actually committed those crimes yet but no one seems to notice his behavior is messed up. That's why the doctor prescribed him medication he obviously forgot to take them hence the hallucinations. He losses it after the business card comparisons and not being able to get reservations at restaurants.
@louisp.3332
4 жыл бұрын
Geez....so wrong
@TN-ju4ro
4 жыл бұрын
@@satwinderdhariwal thank you for noticing the pills, i swear no one else seemed to notice them
@bilalmalik4140
2 жыл бұрын
@@satwinderdhariwal and one more thing to notice that, when Patrick was dragging the bag with Paul's body so some of blood was flowing on floor but security guard didn't notice, even though the blood was really more visible, that's means all things are just In his imagination.
@justincholos.balisang6884
3 жыл бұрын
For me, it seems to have some Orwellian aspect in it. You know, a dystopian age where people are so wealthy they only care about themselves and not other people
@kawasakiwhiptwo5821
Жыл бұрын
It's 1. You don't have to be an actual psychotic murderer to think about acting out as one. Mabey this is what Patrick thinks about when he's fed up,angry,stressed out or just bored. Think about it...think of the darkest most violent thoughts you've ever had. Now imagine them being brought to life in a movie. Presto... American Psycho. Unless you live in another country.
@chrisbilling
3 жыл бұрын
I agree because the central theme of the film is the blurring of individuality so if someone dies nobody would really even notice
@GabrielGomes-di1ex
2 жыл бұрын
Never forget bateman Fired more than 20 shots with a glock without reloading
@badrsalihi1624
3 жыл бұрын
Personally I think that's not anything in the movie actually happened cuz you can't just say that Patrick killed them all and on another hand there's some scenes( police cars, chainsaw scene) prove the opposite so the film is actually open-ended .
@wvarley
4 жыл бұрын
'this is not an exit'
@joshualyons2854
Жыл бұрын
This film is a shining example of how to convey paranoia and hallucination into a character. Books can do this very easily but to actually show it on screen is different ball game, bravo
@nikolausphillips
3 жыл бұрын
I disagree, I think he killed those people, it's just that he comes from a powerful class that clean up each other's messes. Makes them go away
@ilqar887
2 жыл бұрын
Most of them do the similar staff ...using fake names ...so it's okay for them him being the killer
@deanmackin1850
4 жыл бұрын
But considering he was pathetically murdered by a child in the ‘sequel’, it wasn’t in his head
@stevenclark5168
3 жыл бұрын
We dont talk about that movie
@kanieraliapeng724
3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenclark5168 😭😭
@kylesmith6141
2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, I think you are mostly correct but there is one line that isn't addressed. Something like 'your dad basically owns the company' was said by Bateman's fiancée. I think that his family used money to cover these murders up as well. This explains the weird interaction at the condo and with the lawyer.
@JonnyBetz
Жыл бұрын
Guys like this actually exist too. You hear the stories about guys that work a 9 to 5 and all their friends say he was perfectly normal and never thought he would do such a thing. Meanwhile he has 3 people in his basement
@inquisitivefeline
Жыл бұрын
Narrator even started speaking Welsh American.
@21paraflyer
2 жыл бұрын
As the legendary lawman Bernard Fife once quipped, “ He’s a nut!”
@djdannydan1203
Жыл бұрын
How you explained the lawyer scene gave me a light bulb moment thanks a lot for the new perspective!
@Roy-ck9mb
Жыл бұрын
When the lawyer said that he saw Paul in London for dinner, I understood right there that the lawyer was just hinting Bateman that he knows about the murder, and that he won't tell anyone the truth.
@SlamJamMusic
Жыл бұрын
i honestly think that he really did commit all the murders and his lawyer is really just that fucking good that he used all the information patrick gave him to make an elaborate coverup.
@IowaMan
Жыл бұрын
it's psychosis, you're experiencing batemens madness, and then his own confusion and fear when he snaps back into reality. He doesn't understand what's going on when the murders committed seemingly didn't happen just as much as you don't.
@flameg9422
3 жыл бұрын
yeah but you are leaving so many other details about the film still unexplained, that tbh contradict your explanation there. i personally am still trying to figure this film out
@johnnyofthesticks7260
2 жыл бұрын
The meaning of a work of art is not univocal (i.e. what the director attempted), that is why it is a work of art. Its a relationship between the piece and the espectator, consumer, etc, beyond intentions in its origins, in the development. Sometimes the hegemonic meaning is clear, others not. Creativity is playing in both poles.
@GameBreaker1055
5 ай бұрын
3 ways to look at this movie: 1. He really killed all those people. - The lawyer mistook someone else for Paul Allen (alligns with peopel constantly mistaking identities) or is covering for him - Rich snubs in expensive apartment buildings might no care about screams coming from outside their apartment - The insane police chase and the kitten sacrifice before could be hallucinations created by teh fear of being found out 2. He did not kill anyone: - All evidence of the murders is gone - So many elements seems too whacky to be real, like the kitten sacrifice, the police car explsoion and the chainsaw drop 3: NOTHING IS REAL - The fact that Paul Allen looks almost identical to Bateman, and that people seem to copy the way Bateman acts could imply that everything is in his mind, that all the major characters are just people he makes up and therefore have elements of himself - The murders could be him trying to get rid off negative emotions like self-doubt in case for Paul Allen - If everything is a dream, all the whacky stuff makes total sense.
@tucolucious7128
3 жыл бұрын
Watching this movie drunk af is confusing. The ending made me question everything even more
@mackychloe
2 жыл бұрын
watch it high
@thehandsomeguyinthefront
Жыл бұрын
The is also a theory that Bateman does not exist and only consists of feelings of every secondary character and how they want to be
@felipet.lamaison2177
Жыл бұрын
I think you got a point, since you quote the director herself, approving your theory. Nevertheless, I think knowing if he killed those people or not, isn't really important to understand the message of the film, which is what you say by the end of your video : Bateman stays as mesirable, normal and confused as he was before all the events (occured, or not). Bateman thought that by "realizing" those crime he would finally realize him self in a sense he would be a singularity, a real person, and more than just a human cage. For me, this is one of the most important conclusion in the film. In the beginning he clearly says he "simply not there" . His lack of empathy, his incappacity to "fit in", with his environment being only composed by self-entitled people, filled with superficiality, over inflated egos, and no empathy. They, as you say,only exist for the money, they also lost any contact with humanity (whether those murders occured or not, they "are simply no there" neither). The film may be also a strong critique on capitalism, and the kind of society it cultivated : hyper materialistic, depersonalized, futile and unempathic. Considering all this, maybe Patrick Bateman wasn't the most fool of all : he might be the one who realized his environment is a disaster, just like him, and that there was no escape for him. As he says by the end, during that Reagan tv speech : in the end, what happens on the inside of every man, doesn't matter. Just keep a big smile, and everything is gonna be fine
@horseohmother4621
2 жыл бұрын
I think the hallucinations are a representation of intrusive thoughts. Like if you pick up something fragile and important to you there’s the thought of just eating it despite it being made out of ceramic or just smashing it even though doing so would make you and your family upset
@perfumepixie2237
Жыл бұрын
Harm ocd thoughts are wild , so yeah. It would fit
@samaelmorgenstern8065
Жыл бұрын
I remember when "my friend" was psychotic he truly believed he killed people. Which wasn't the case at all they just went missing.
@mpix00
Жыл бұрын
His father knew he killed all those people. His father had the lawyer hire the lady to clean the murder scene in the apartment.
@ShitHappensRLY
3 жыл бұрын
like I read the book and watched the movie, and one of the biggest thing that Bateman himself doesn't know did he commit these crimes or not
@RonPaulOrDie
3 жыл бұрын
There's a big clue at 0:39 seconds into this video. Subliminally you are told the lawyer's head is "in the clouds."
@mihajlobisenic8456
3 жыл бұрын
Good eye
@RonPaulOrDie
3 жыл бұрын
@@mihajlobisenic8456 I noticed the technique in 2016, almost all Ben Carson interviews no matter which network used this.
@madminute7598
3 жыл бұрын
(Listen to that explanation of society The meta-lingual parallels of industry A dual-revelation in the ending) Impressive. Very nice.
@user-bp4ys3xp1x
2 жыл бұрын
I think what the movie meant at least for me is that the higher ups can always easily get away even with the worst of sins. Showing the president in the end in the TV, sending orders for killing, wars, stealing. Because these men have power, in the end they can still live their normal lives like they don't have a huge body count behind them. For example, Putin.
@paulawaters6142
Жыл бұрын
I believe he killed them because of the drama in the laundry at the beginning of the movie about cleaning the blood from the sheets.
@swoogie3570
3 жыл бұрын
My theory is that Bateman's lawyer, landlord and co-workers are all serial killers themselves and have been playing it off so well for so long that Patrick ironically ends up being the most sane person among the people he associates with. I know its a little far fetched, but ya know how theories are.
@RenanL.S.
2 жыл бұрын
The truth was actually that Bateman didn't kill Paul Allen, he confused him with some random executive and thought he killed Allen. This is why the lawyer said that he had dinner with Paul.
@dreamlovermimi9458
Жыл бұрын
Very possible as none of the coworkers can remember their names at all! Cant pay attention to anyone but themselves
@illaudatus
7 ай бұрын
i always had this conclusion that the company is covering his madness... regardless if he is imagining or not they all play along with his schizophrenia or psychopathy.
@daniellevy2272
Жыл бұрын
Oh hell while I like the meaning we're al used to, that it was all in his mind- this one is SO good
@harmlesscreationsofthegree1248
Жыл бұрын
I missed the ending. Had to return some video tapes 😢
@thomasgrabowski2202
3 жыл бұрын
creepy af. But some of these scenes are just fucking hilarously magestic.
@exstudent30
2 жыл бұрын
why do you refer to what the director intended rather than the what the Author intended? The point of the ending is that it doesn't even matter if did he or didn't do those things, because no one cares.
@kang7084
Жыл бұрын
he murdered the people and his lawyer had to cover it up to save his own ass because of the voicemail. GOSH!! that's why the real estate agent said "never come back". super good film, but everyone is making it too complicated.
@3blaha3
2 жыл бұрын
My explenation is that simply.. the guy suffers from schizophrenia, the director leads us through his 'own world' till we find out it was his 'own world'. When his secretary finds his drawings I have no more doubts. The 2 situations you mention, the woman in the appartement and how drastically changes her mood and the lawer giving him alliby would make sense but than again... what about the body dragging throught the hall???
@cradleofanal
2 жыл бұрын
This is the best explaining that make most sense
@brayli86
Жыл бұрын
I think the answer lies in Patrick's pills kicking in very wrong direction.
@littleprince12
7 ай бұрын
I wanna believe that he imagined the murders because I feel bad for the victims
@milesjobrani9394
Жыл бұрын
There's a book you can read to figure it all out surprisingly
@ryanhamley4161
Жыл бұрын
Quick and to the point I like your perspective
@lastpme
Жыл бұрын
I think it was in his mind he killed all those people. For me it was when the ATM told him to feed the cat to it and he did…that was the clue all this was happening in his mind and he was losing his sense of reality.
@greevar
Жыл бұрын
It's not really an "ending explained", but rather an interpretation.
@arjunanil9994
Жыл бұрын
Now I have to watch another video to understand this explanation
@stfu6397
Жыл бұрын
the director is a legend imo
@dimitri4964
3 жыл бұрын
Or three, his Dad practically owned the company. He covered it up.
@lang8097
3 жыл бұрын
Notice the card scene, everybody is vice president. It's almost like fiction because how can there be so many vice presidents in one company? If we look at this at a nepotism way, everybody's father in that card scene owns the company. The better theory is that Paul Allen's family cleaned up the apartment in order to hide shame.
@VeryHandsomeAndTall
Жыл бұрын
The lawyer could of easily mistaken Paul Allen for any of the people from the film or anyone Patrick works with. Just like everyone else in the movie does, they only care about themselves. He didn’t even know Patrick was in front of his face. So that tells Patrick could of easily killed Paul.
@janpierzchala2004
Жыл бұрын
I guess she, the director, kind of got scared (because some viewers get influenced) and thus suggested this was all a fairy tale and not the real world. So, opposite to your drift.
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