A note to all Americans.. the ‘a’ sound in Berkshire, Derbyshire etc also extends to the word ‘clerk’!
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Oh no! Dogs have taken over the English language! It's all "barks" in here 😄
@dave_h_8742
4 жыл бұрын
And Derby as in The Brown Derby.
@joolzessam1824
4 жыл бұрын
@@WanderingRavens There is a place called Barking. It's in Essex. lol
@InstruMentalbreakdown.
4 жыл бұрын
AND Hertfordshire can be shortened to Herts but said like hearts
@hotspace1145
4 жыл бұрын
Barkshire
@pauljackson6168
4 жыл бұрын
Haha, "when I was American". You're one of us now!
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
😆😆
@METALFREAK03
4 жыл бұрын
reminded me of this song watch?v=UQR3tULUtYY ironically sung by americans.
@MrJonno85
4 жыл бұрын
@@METALFREAK03 Which song was that?
@METALFREAK03
4 жыл бұрын
@@MrJonno85 Skinlab - One of us (its because he said "one of us" and I read it in the manner it was sung by these guys - I think its about illicit drugs however.)
@MrJonno85
4 жыл бұрын
@@METALFREAK03 I checked out that track on KZitem - clearly not a cover of the Abba song of the same name.
@hadz8671
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's BARKSHIRE. Also the town of Berkeley is BARKLEY.
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Noooo! We were wrong 😭😭
@ricmac954
4 жыл бұрын
True but, strangely, the abbreviated rhyming slang "berk" (from "Berkley hunt") is pronounced as spelled.
@markedwards9180
4 жыл бұрын
I was born in Reading in Berkshire pronounced Barkshire
@frankpennycook7802
4 жыл бұрын
And, in a nice irony, the US embassy (now moved of course) used to be in Berkeley Square ! Pronounced, in a toffee accent, something like Barkli Skwah.
@capitalb5889
4 жыл бұрын
@@WanderingRavens - and Brits always mispronounce UC Berkeley, using the British pronunciation.
@Brookesworld777
4 жыл бұрын
My ears were impressed but also bled with some of the pronunciations. 🤣 Don't give me a microwave cup of tea. 😅
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
We'd never dream of offering you anything but the best, most proper cup of tea to soothe your ears 🤣
@Brookesworld777
4 жыл бұрын
😅🤣
@jenny2245
4 жыл бұрын
No. You should put tea in your mouth, not your ears...
@METALFREAK03
4 жыл бұрын
Wandering Ravens: (with absolute US confidence) Burk-shire Google translate British woman: Bark-shire Wandering Ravens: (giving a curious look at eachother) It's really not. HAHAHAHA
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@ricoantinoro1253
4 жыл бұрын
@@WanderingRavens Speaking from Maidenhead, it is indeed pronounced Bark-shire. English people from further up North or to the West pronounce it how you did, so it's an easy mistake to make. No sweat!
@kissywitch
4 жыл бұрын
"Burkshire" and"Burkeley"sounds hideous - just so wrong! Imagine Dame Vera Lynn singing "A nightingale sang in "BURKELEY Square" - aaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!
@Moojingles_
3 жыл бұрын
@@kissywitch alright mate bloody hell no need to have a breakdown
@blacklabsarecute3430
4 жыл бұрын
Suffolk is pronounced like Norfolk, that's just google translate screwing you over 😂
@hadz8671
4 жыл бұрын
If Norfolk and Suffolk merge will they just call it "Fck"?
@neuralwarp
3 жыл бұрын
Dorset .. /Dorsit/ Somerset .. /Summerset/ ??
@Whiteshirtloosetie
4 жыл бұрын
Almost there. To get it more exact. Living in Bedfordshire the shire sound is a cross between 'shir' and 'sheer', so 'shier'/shee-a. Then when saying it faster the 'ee' sound is still there but almost disappears.
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tip! We will master British town and county names yet haha
@Whiteshirtloosetie
4 жыл бұрын
@@WanderingRavens :D To be fair you both teach me things I didn't know before.
@oz25
4 жыл бұрын
@@WanderingRavens Lincolnshire is often said more like Lincunsh' with a very very slight/soft "schwa" at the end. Maybe Lincunsh(uh) with the uh/schwh, again pretty much 'disappearing'. xxx
@SNMG7664
4 жыл бұрын
"The City of London" is like a tiny separate city inside London, a separate thing. The queen actually needs to ask for and be granted permission to enter The City of London. They'd never say no but she technically still has to ask.
@stevebrindle1724
4 жыл бұрын
The City is a capitalist blob and should be blown up, just as the royals should be exterminated as they are scrounging twats, that many English, especially in the North of England cannot stand!
4 жыл бұрын
steve brindle You’re speaking as a northerner, are you?
@mydrillasanjay5397
2 жыл бұрын
@@stevebrindle1724 up the north
@oldboy5001
4 жыл бұрын
14:57 Your pronunciation of Suffolk was correct, Google's was wrong.
@keithholland-delamere2287
4 жыл бұрын
You're correct, google is wrong
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Good to know! Happy to add another point to our score :D
@MousePotato
4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Google was wrong.
@trickygoose2
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%
@jphaggerty9046
4 жыл бұрын
Northamptonian from Northamptonshire, here! The "H" is generally dropped to make "Nor-THAMP-tun." Or, possibly more accurately among natives, "Nor-FAM-tun."
@harrytibbles4134
4 жыл бұрын
You right
@countertony
4 жыл бұрын
"City of London"? That's the square mile (basically the old Roman and medieval city, near enough) - the county is "Greater London".
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@countertony
4 жыл бұрын
@@WanderingRavens Yeah, whererver you got the list from slipped you a dud entry. By the way, a lot of (particularly southern) English accents will pronounce the 'i' in -shire, the 'e' in Sussex and the 'o' in Devon as a schwa (the neutral vowel, a bit like the 'e' in the French 'je'), so it's legit for all those vowels to sound the same.
@countertony
4 жыл бұрын
Also the 'a' in Rutland, which I think leaves 'u' as the only vowel not to be pronounced as schwa in the list of counties.
@Waterford1992
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah this 2 arent very bright, i bet they confuse New York City with New York State too
@lemsip207
4 жыл бұрын
Created in 1965 when the London boundaries were moved outwards taking in parts of Kent, Essex and Surrey. Middlesex disappeared altogether as it was swallowed up by Greater London and Hertfordshire. The GLC replaced the old London County Council and with it the boroughs were joined together to form 32 new boroughs.
@michw3755
4 жыл бұрын
Google translate was pretty much spot on where she changed the "e" to an "a" was correct, the only one I took issue with was Durham, she pronounced it a bit weird, Grace in this instance was correct. Oh, and Cumbria, you were correct again, I think she has a problem pronouncing "u" 😂👍
@wamp7
4 жыл бұрын
I’m from Norfolk and the ‘shires’ I pronounce more ‘shear’ than ‘shurr’
@flappetyflippers
4 жыл бұрын
Same
@clairemanning5334
4 жыл бұрын
Same with me (Suffolk)
@amandahall5395
4 жыл бұрын
Yes! This! I'm intrigued - are there UK accents that say "shur"? I'm definitely in the "shear" camp (also from Suffolk though...)
@emilyduke4255
3 жыл бұрын
@@amandahall5395 I’m from Hampshire. Everyone I know pronounces it “Hamp-sher”
@anyareid593
3 жыл бұрын
Same with me (Somerset)
@Georgexb
4 жыл бұрын
London is actually quite complicated geographically. What most people call ‘London’ is actually split into Greater London and the City of London. Greater London covers the vast majority of the area and includes everything from housing districts to museums etc. The City of London is a single square mile in the middle of London, and is the financial centre of the country. It has the headquarters of virtually all the big banks and financial industries. The City of London (also called ‘the city’ or ‘the square mile) essentially operates like its own country, it has medieval style laws, it’s own mayor who wears a funny hat, guilds and the Queen can’t go there without asking permission. It’s a remnant of when the Romans established what is now the City of London as a trading post.
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
This helps a lot! Thank you, George :D
@Georgexb
4 жыл бұрын
Wandering Ravens There’s quite a good video on it done by CGP Grey
@Georgexb
4 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/raiFyI6VgYyLiJg
@alanhayes33
4 жыл бұрын
Yes London or oriiganally londinium was from landing Romans from Italy called it! Greater or domain,
@tylerpathe9998
4 жыл бұрын
Wandering Ravens yes the City of London is ancient compared to the rest of the city, it’s a very interesting place historically. The district has its own livery companies which are mind-bending, with the oldest, the Weavers’ Company, dating all the way back to 1155. There’s a really cool mix of new and old buildings, most of which were designed by Sir Christopher Wren. And I was there today! I love your channel guys, keep up the great work!
@Georgexb
4 жыл бұрын
In British English (especially place names) the ‘Berk’ sound is almost exclusively said as ‘bark’. So Berkshire is pronounced Barkshire. Berkeley square is pronounced ‘Barkly square’
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for letting us know!
@paolobacardi
4 жыл бұрын
@@WanderingRavens FYI, there is also an insult derived from this county name, to call someone a berk, sounds like burk, a stupid person, but is derived from rhyming slang which in Brit speak actually never uses the rhyming word it implies. i.e. Can I use your dog? (dog and bone. = phone). It relates to fox hunting, so the Berkshire (sounds like Barksire) hunt. But to call someone a berk, you are actually call someone a word that rhymes with hunt... Rhyming slang should keep you busy... This classic comedy sketch, even with the rhyming words left in should keep you busy... kzitem.info/news/bejne/yqBr06uVnqN8qJg
@oz25
4 жыл бұрын
@@paolobacardi See you next Tuesday!
@CrazyInWeston
4 жыл бұрын
@@oz25 Defo a see you next tuesday type of person.
@niamhduffy2012
4 жыл бұрын
Derbyshire is beautiful you should come visit, when it's legal 😂 There's a town that has a dam that almost flooded the entire valley and 7000 people were evacuated but it's fine now 😂
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Soon as it's legal we'll be over! :D
@skibbedypappow4579
3 жыл бұрын
Derbyshire is fucking boring get me out please
@dinger40
4 жыл бұрын
Riding is old English for third, Yorkshire was so big it was divided in to thirds. Was North, East and West Ridings. In 1974 The East Riding mostly became Humberside and part of the West Riding became the Soviet Socialist Republic of South Yorkshire. ;¬))
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to answer our question! :D
@kevinbrownsword9558
4 жыл бұрын
It’s back as the East Riding now. Humberside was dropped in 96
@keithorbell8946
4 жыл бұрын
Also Cleveland
@dinger40
4 жыл бұрын
@@kevinbrownsword9558 Thanks, over 50 years since I left.
@kevinbrownsword9558
4 жыл бұрын
dinger40 I’ve only been here for 12 years so missed all the kerfuffle
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
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@thewomble1509
4 жыл бұрын
FYI, BARK shire is correct.
@josephdolman
4 жыл бұрын
The scone debate will go on forever
@eanjamesmogg9488
4 жыл бұрын
Try Welsh County names I dare you, to be honest most are easy 😁
@pipercharms7374
4 жыл бұрын
Love you to react to this, the city of London, isn't actually london, its a city (liturally) inside London XD :) kzitem.info/news/bejne/1X-rvIyqsJSipqg Though totally understand if you don't want to but love you both to watch it in your own time instead then, I think you'll find it interesting :) Or this one is much shorter though not to do with the history behind it kzitem.info/news/bejne/y5Ch26t7bKGUem0
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
@@eanjamesmogg9488 We're doing those next week!
@TheBloodsuger150
4 жыл бұрын
The city of London isn’t London but that’s a whole different thing
@norfldnen3291
3 жыл бұрын
City of London is the original London from Roman times (londinium or something like that) then it was expanded over time to what it is today
@Pablosplace
4 жыл бұрын
Darwin was born in a house down the road from me. Greetings from Shrewsbury, Shropshire. ✌️
@baf_mcnab3065
3 жыл бұрын
But is that SHREWsbury as in 'shroo' to rhyme with shoe, or as in shrow to rhyme with show ? :P
@Pablosplace
3 жыл бұрын
@@baf_mcnab3065 Shoe of course. Only posh folk and outsiders call it "Shrowsbury" 🤣
@AlisonBryen
3 жыл бұрын
@@baf_mcnab3065 Its Shroosbury. Anyone calling it Shrowsbury is being pretentious and insufferable.
@baf_mcnab3065
3 жыл бұрын
@@AlisonBryen Daccord, used to go out with a girl from Ironbridge, her family pronounced it 'shroo' but her posh friend said 'shrow...'
@inickedurnan941
4 жыл бұрын
You guys seem like such nice people, most Americans get deeply defensive about anything that contradicts what they’ve learnt in America, or at least they’re the ones who argue the loudest
@jasonyoung7705
4 жыл бұрын
If you ever go to Manchester, please pronounce it as 'Man-chester-shire", and remember to over pronounce the 'shire'. Even after they tell you that's wrong, keep doing it :-)
@Zentron
4 жыл бұрын
Dat is evil... as a life long resident of Manchester, I approve!
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
😂😂 But I don't want to get stabbed
@jasonyoung7705
4 жыл бұрын
@@WanderingRavens Well that could be a concern. Well, there is a safeguard. if anyone in Manchester attacks you, the line "Your beetles are a great band", will surely soothe the aggressor. Also. NEVER DO THIS!
@Zentron
4 жыл бұрын
@@WanderingRavens Also there's an old statue of Abraham Lincoln in Lincoln Square, Manchester, of which there is some interesting history about and the ending of the civil war in America!
@AnOldGreyDog
4 жыл бұрын
You could always ask to visit Manchesterford and see the famous Acorn Antiques shop. Alternatively, go to Stretford, just south of Manchester and ask someone where Shakespeare's house is...
@iapetusmccool
4 жыл бұрын
How to name a place in England: 1) take a fairly straight-forward description of the place (possibly in an ancient language). 2) mash all the words together into one word. 3) blur or drop some of the letters or syllables to make it easier to say as one word. 4) possibly make some weird, random, unpredictable change to how part of it is said, for the lulz, and to make things harder for outsiders.
@TheGregcellent
4 жыл бұрын
I live in a town where people pronounce the name 3 different ways. We're a funny old bunch 😆
@Twittler1
4 жыл бұрын
Tyne and Wear - both rivers.
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Ayy! Can't believe we got that right! :D
@adrianbrattle345
4 жыл бұрын
County was founded in 1974 for administrative convenience.
@leahmaybf
4 жыл бұрын
I’m from rugby - it’s crazy that you were staying so close when you lived in the uk! Always look forward to your videos!
@aaronchapman1306
4 жыл бұрын
Berkshire is pronounced "Barkshire" it's the same with Derbyshire its pronounced Darbyshire
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Noooo! We were wrong 😭😭
@philipjamesarmstrong1364
4 жыл бұрын
@@WanderingRavens The fact that you make the effort to educate yourselves about Britain stands you in good stead, I think we can forgive you the odd clunker in pronunciation!
@Rockdoc2174
4 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Bagshaw Arta rait, me duck? (How are you my friend? for the Ravens)
@Rockdoc2174
4 жыл бұрын
I probably should have said that Derbyshire dialect has a lot in common with other northern dialects in areas that were inside the Danelaw 1,000 years ago, such as Lancashire, Yorkshire and Lincolnshire. We still use the remnants of thee and thou so arta rait is phonetic for art thou (all) right? Me duck is a common greeting and some say duck derives from the Roman dux/ducis or leader. Ayup is a hangover from the Vikings and is still used in Scandinavia as something like Hey hoop.
@keithorbell8946
4 жыл бұрын
And Hertfordshire is pronounced Hartfordshire.
@polkadot8788
4 жыл бұрын
Try Shrewsbury...that's a tricky one. Even the locals can't settle on one pronunciation.
@WolfGratz
4 жыл бұрын
There is no right answer as you say.
@isobellerobson3345
3 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right with the etymology of Tyne and Wear. There are 2 cities in the county, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, and Sunderland. As you can probably tell, the Tyne runs through Newcastle, and the Wear runs through Sunderland. Extra fact: when the county was created in 1974, the original name was going to be Tyneside, but everyone in Sunderland and Wearside complained about it, so they included the names of both rivers.
@merryclift2953
4 жыл бұрын
the 'wall' in cornwall is pronounced more like how you say "wool"
@barrygower6733
4 жыл бұрын
Essex, Sussex, Middlesex, Wessex; East Saxons, South Saxons, Middle Saxons,West Saxons. Suffolk, Norfolk; South Folk, North Folk.
@klord3677
4 жыл бұрын
Surrey*
@amoranfilm
4 жыл бұрын
Being from Lincolnshire, the appreciation for the midlands made me happy xD
@adampoultney8737
3 жыл бұрын
Same from Leicestershire
@nicoleonus
4 жыл бұрын
Best way to solve the clotted cream/jam conundrum? Put jam on one half, cream on the other and sandwich the two halves together. You just have to turn it one way or the other to have it your preferred way... (also a great excuse to put extra cream and jam on to account for the extra layer of scone on top!)
@chelsal
4 жыл бұрын
Great fun as usual guys. Well done Eric for getting Hertfordshire right :)
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! We're improving with our pronunciation I think (I hope haha)
@baf_mcnab3065
3 жыл бұрын
Good shout on the Ox ford thing and yes, a lot of our place names are descriptive. For instance in the midlands we have a small town called Brownhills and yes you've guessed it, there used to be opencast mining there. In the town there is a great 'sculpture' of a miner. Midlands is of course an abbreviation of middle lands, and so on.
@METALFREAK03
4 жыл бұрын
Also, a fact I actually learnt from Sleepy Hollow (an american tv drama show about a 18th century british redcoat (who was a traitor) and a town that had some weird scifi things happening to it) and I checked it out and it was correct. The reason why americans pronounce things differently is due to the English academics which wanted to further (or farther!) themselves away from the motherland (thats GB by the way) and so started over pronouncing everything. (in a sort of black adder-ish kind of way) Now add that in with Thomas's hatred for pompious aristoricracy and therefore created an entire new dictionary (webber? I think) and the fact that if you were caught having different pronounciations you were checked to be a spy from the motherland (the US civil war politics here), you get the reason why americans speak so 18th century. It's tilted a bit of course, but its actually very surprising how tight it is to the way we used to speak here. I find this stuff fascinating, its also why I say america is still owned/run by the british empire (1st british empire not the to be confused with the current second british empire (Victoria's empire)) as everything is like it was back then. Even the horrible bits, which I won't go into, avoid a political debate here.
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
So fascinating! Thank you for sharing that bit of history with us! The evolution of English is a topic we'd both love to learn more about.
@tcroft2165
4 жыл бұрын
I just died a little at the thought we're now taking phonics from TV show! The er/ar is nothing more than common changes ongoing since the Great Vowel Shift
@oshawhat87
4 жыл бұрын
You were spot on about Tyne and Wear being rivers. It became a county in 1974, so it's quite young in comparison to a lot of the others, and might be why it's named so differently
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Yay! Can we say that I get two additional points for that: ;)
@stephencressey1
3 жыл бұрын
Tyne and Wear WAS a county but was disbanded in 1986.
@firedrake7663
3 жыл бұрын
“Berk” is typically pronounced “Bark”, that is correct.
@amethyst1826
3 жыл бұрын
It's like Derby. They go to the Durby and we go to Darby! 😆😆
@nicholaskelly6375
3 жыл бұрын
Fire Drake Remember that at the end of 'Carry On Henry' Henry VIII (Sid James) proclaims Lord Hampton of Wick (Kenneth Connor) as The Prince of Berkshire with the following speech "Arise Prince of Berks"!
@MrRolandgent
3 жыл бұрын
Although “Berk” Comes from “Berkshire hunt “ we should say that someone is a Bark.
@martintabony611
4 жыл бұрын
Yorkshire was a large county, broken down into areas called "Ridings".
@krisoliver6202
4 жыл бұрын
‘Tyne and Wear...Maybe these are both rivers’....nicely guessed!
@MrTrull1
4 жыл бұрын
I’m glad my county gave you no problems (Somerset), although if you were local you’d pronounce it more like ‘Zummerrrzet’ - think how pirates speak. Their accent originated in the West Country (the best place in the whole of England, of course!). BTW, it continues to be a pleasure to watch Grace slowly sliding into madness. She even thinks she’s met all these people now. Aw, bless. 😂
@merrygoblin
4 жыл бұрын
I seem to recall the modern West Country accent is the closest nowadays to the 'standard' accent (if such a thing existed) as it was back in the times of Shakespeare. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong.) Shakespeare, Sir Francis Drake and his ilk spoke with what we'd hear now as something of a West Country accent. I think was before the Great Vowel Shift though, so the english of Shakespeare's time would sound very different to how it would sound today.
@acas8372
4 жыл бұрын
I think the reason why Americans sometimes struggle with British place names is that they don't always realise that the reason that they aren't pronounced predictably in modern English is because of the extensive history of competing languages and cultures within the British Isles which change from place to place. Middle English and Cornish as just two examples will have vastly different phonetics than modern English so these really old place names still use unused sounds. Nonetheless, you guys caught on super quickly I thought and guessed things really well! heres a quite simple wikipedia article on this history!: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toponymy_of_England
@Ilixie
4 жыл бұрын
looking forward to Leominster
@Twittler1
4 жыл бұрын
Ilixie pronounced by many as ‘Lem steur’
4 жыл бұрын
Or Wymondham...
@Twittler1
4 жыл бұрын
Pádraig Floyd Oh yeah, ‘windeum’. And then there’s Saxmundham - ‘Saxeum’.
@englishoutsidethebook5898
3 жыл бұрын
And Cleobury Mortimer while they're in the area.
@Lily_The_Pink972
3 жыл бұрын
Or Yeovilton!
@adrianpetyt9167
4 жыл бұрын
In the old Strontium Dog comics, the Northumberland faction of the Mutant Army called themselves the Tyne and Weirdies.
@tonycasey3183
4 жыл бұрын
Definitely pronounced Barksher
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Noooo! We were wrong 😭😭
@redbeki
4 жыл бұрын
Or in West Midlands ...barksheer ..all the shers or shires are pronounced sheers by Brummies ...
@redbeki
4 жыл бұрын
Barksheer in Birmingham !
@roadskare63
4 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA!!...this was GREAT!!....and ty for the 411....and BTW, u two make a really cute couple!!.....more power to you all...and keep up the FUN!!
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@tobeytransport2802
4 жыл бұрын
Sussex and Essex are near but don’t border!! My beautiful home county of Kent seperates Essex from sussex, from here I can go west across the river rother to east Sussex or north across the Thames into Essex or london
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Good to know! We want to visit Kent at some point and see how it compares to Washington's Kent haha 😂
@tobeytransport2802
4 жыл бұрын
Wandering Ravens I expect it was named after my Kent! I was born in Margate but other than the few weeks in the hospital (and holidays) I’ve lived in herne bay all my life (come here if you want but it’s a bit of a shithole, not too much of one though) deal is nice and is quite a nice traditional beach town (but unlike herne bay hasn’t been invaded by Londoners who make it crappy). Canterbury is good but very touristy. One good thing about Kent is that almost all of it is very accessible by trains from London (a lot of places are also on the high speed line)... it is lovely in Kent but you might want to do the research before you come some places aren’t to nice
@trickygoose2
4 жыл бұрын
@@tobeytransport2802 I thought Faversham was very nice and it has a brewery that is over 300 years old.
@neodigremo
4 жыл бұрын
And of course they are named that because they were the 2 of the main locations the Saxons settled when they arrived, along with Wessex (East Saxons, West Saxons and South Saxons becoming Essex, Wessex and Sussex) And Kent is beautiful. Unless you are from Gillingham. Gillingham is trash. Along with the rest of Medway. I would know. :)
@highpath4776
4 жыл бұрын
@@tobeytransport2802 Washington's Kent County could be named after a person
@user-hb4zz4gh5e
4 жыл бұрын
“If it wasn’t for me personally you’d still be speaking German” Lmao
@Brian3989
4 жыл бұрын
Worcestershire has been around for many generations, while the Worcestershire Sauce factory is just a couple of miles from my home. We'll skip past a period when Hereford and Worcester were combined as a county, but split again.
@danielyeshe
4 жыл бұрын
Please do one of these for Wales!
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Next week! :D
@thomassugg5621
4 жыл бұрын
I’m from Essex and I live in a small town surrounded by forests and farmlands. Another county I spend a lot of time in is Norfolk as my grandparents live there and it’s beautiful up there.
@okgrapefruit1191
4 жыл бұрын
Lol. Google’s accent isn’t posh. That proper made me laugh
@mscoop74
4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, there are quite a few of these that sound different depending on regional accents. x 😄
@carriehowlter6332
4 жыл бұрын
Haha, definitely. Everyone in Yorkshire says "shire" differently!
@ddemaine
4 жыл бұрын
Like Brizzle for instance ;)
@gman2240
3 жыл бұрын
Counties with names ending in 'sex' refer to Saxon settlements after the Saxon invasions. Wessex refers to west Saxons, Sussex - south Saxons, Essex - east Saxons etc. Anglia refers to the areas where the Angles settled.
@ganjiblobflankis6581
4 жыл бұрын
Vowels tend to migrate backwards over the centuries. "Err" is forward of "Arr" The spelling was cemented long enough ago to be out of date. Give it time and it will be "Beckshire" etc, then "Bickshire". Focus on where you make the vowel sounds and you can see how "Ja" became "Yes" which is pronounced "Yis" in New Zealand.
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for enlightening us! Linguistics is fascinating :D
@larry-naylor
4 жыл бұрын
I'm really proud of you guys, you cracked it with a sense of fun and humour. I love it. 😀
@rogerk3954
4 жыл бұрын
Thing thing you were using was slightly off on a couple of things. Tyne is a river. It runs through Newcastle (upon Tyne) to the sea. Some of the counties are pronounced the same as the cheese. North, South, East Riging are all areas of the same county. The county as a whole is Yorkshire. Riging is an old term used for a part, or area of. Some of pronounciations is down to the local accent/dialect. So it's actually possible to have 2 correct pronounciations.
@douglasdeans2839
3 жыл бұрын
On the subject of cocktails - A Englishman walks into a Glasgow bar and asks for a pint lager and lime. The barman looks at him and says "Sorry sonny, we dinna do cocktails."
@RobertHeslop
4 жыл бұрын
16:45 - Correct on the rivers. My hometown is Newcastle-upon-Tyne and it sits upon the River Tyne, where our bridges are most notably the Tyne Bridge, which was built first and then the same construction company in question went on to build Sydney Harbour Bridge in Australia. The river at that part in our city centre is where we divide from Newcastle to the north and Gateshead to the south. The river also is presentable in other parts of the North East, like the river tyne flows outs of Tynemouth and South Shields into the North Sea. The next city south of us is Sunderland which sits upon the River Wear.
@redbeki
4 жыл бұрын
Love the isle of wit..
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
We do too! 😄
@idlecleric
4 жыл бұрын
You got Northumberland right! Pre Norman Conquest, there was a Saxon kingdom covering land North of the (river) Humber: Northumbria 😁
@clemstevenson
4 жыл бұрын
I can tell you that the county town of Hertfordshire was Hartford at some time in the past. 'Hartford' is the spelling used on centuries-old maps of the area. At that time, the county name was also 'Hartford-Shire'. I suspect that the county town name was switched to 'Hertford', to avoid confusion with other places named 'Hartford' (referring to a river crossing frequented by harts, or stags).
@tiredofbaddrivers
4 жыл бұрын
'Shire' pronounced 'shu' (short as in 'huff') not 'shurrrr'.
@clairemanning5334
4 жыл бұрын
Are you from up north? Further south (I’m from Suffolk), we pronounce it more like shear.
@relatablerunning
3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Wiltshire (and now Gloucestershire) and say "shur", as many people do. Some people might say "shu" (especially if "well spoken"), but the accent in the SW is rhotic so the R gets its time 👍
@gregorybrett1142
4 жыл бұрын
In counties, the word sex (yeah, I know, just take a quick laughing break before reading on) refers to saxon land, in the names Sussex, Essex, Wessex and Middlesex, which refer to locations relative to the general area of modern day London*. Essex (east of London) means land of the eastern saxons, and is the only one that survives as a county. The land of the Southern Saxons (Sussex, South of London) is divided into East and West to make the counties a more reasonable size. Wessex isn't anything official these days and just refers to a general area west of London including places like Dorset, Hampshire and Wiltshire. The trains that used to serve these areas were called Wessex electrics. Middlesex is what is now modern day North and West London, and was completely removed as an official county when Greater London was created. There is still however a cricket team called middlesex. On a side note, Sussex is absolutely beautiful and one of the warmest places in the UK, I would seriously recommend visiting when we're all able to travel again.
@felicitydavies3227
4 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly Google translate got them all right in pronunciation. Would love to see you both do one based off the counties of Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland and see how Google translate interprets them to sound 😂. Also I'm pretty sure that Yorkshire is split up into so many places because when the vikings came to the UK, they pretty much took over the Yorkshire area and that whole part of England was split between the English and the Danes, due to Danw law. So I think that's the reason why it has so many counties. Great video like always 😊
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! We're so glad you enjoyed it :D And wish us luck - we're doing Welsh counties next week and Scottish the week after!
@felicitydavies3227
4 жыл бұрын
@@WanderingRavens Good luck. Most are not too bad, but some of them may look very intimidating. Just to help you out a bit in Welsh w and y are vowels and the y usually makes sounds like an I. Double d usually makes a th sound, double L is the sound you make when your trying to get something out of your throat. Rh is also kind of a th sound, Ph makes an f sound, but double F makes a v sound. Just remember that your probably looking at the English version of the name of the county so it's a bit easier then their Welsh names 😊. Just a few Welsh pointers to help pronunciation if you can't understand why some letters are together and as some people say it looks like someone has hit their head on a keyboard 😂.
@tonywalton1464
4 жыл бұрын
Oh yes! Let's hear "Kirkcudbright"
@mdwellington
4 жыл бұрын
@@felicitydavies3227 'Double L is the sound you make when your trying to get something out of your throat.' 🤣🤣🤣 It's funny cos it's true.
@felicitydavies3227
4 жыл бұрын
@@mdwellington I don't think there is any other way to explain how to make that noise. It is literally doing that while also rolling your tongue at the same time. 😂
@mattclayson3683
4 жыл бұрын
You're correct about Oxfordshire's etymology - it comes from the Anglo-Saxon word Oxenaforda (I live in Oxford). Also, Berkshire (the Royal County of...) is pronounced Barkshire
@fernweh9316
4 жыл бұрын
If you ever come to cornwall let me know and we'll go for a pint and i can give you the lowdown on cornish history. Lots of pirates, smugglers, mines, sea exploration, and ancient celtic stuff. I'm biased because i'm from here but its fucking cool
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
We'll take you up on that!!
@Steve14ps
4 жыл бұрын
@@WanderingRavens But can you pronounce 'Mousehole'?
@anglewoden
4 жыл бұрын
@@Steve14ps I bet they can't even tell the difference between a Donkey and an arse. lol
@laurensteenkamp7693
4 жыл бұрын
Anything with the word Greater preceding a city name encompasses not only the area of the city but anywhere within around a 10 mile radius (postcode area) of that city, also in context the City of London is where most of the bigger (multinational) financial institutions have their British headquarters
@markleslie6091
4 жыл бұрын
The whole thing with the 'Greater' in area names, such as 'Greater London' is identifying the remaining area of London outside of its central area. So you have: Central London (where you find the City of London) and then surrounding that is Greater London.
@chrisbrooker9707
3 жыл бұрын
I'm from Berkshire and I can confirm that it is correct
@nicholaskemp2246
4 жыл бұрын
Merseyside, where the scousers live!
@martinevans7090
4 жыл бұрын
1:24 "I'm pretty sure it's not" I'm DEFINITELY sure it is, lol!
@tonycasey3183
4 жыл бұрын
Did you say soft Rs or sort arse?
@WanderingRavens
4 жыл бұрын
Soft Rs. But do Brits have soft arses too? 😂
@lewiswilson6892
4 жыл бұрын
@@WanderingRavens is that your standard chat up line? Lol
@tonycasey3183
4 жыл бұрын
@@WanderingRavens Wouldn't YOU like to know!
@okgrapefruit1191
4 жыл бұрын
And Grace, you are absolutely correct about the scone debate.
@este90S
4 жыл бұрын
Yup, Tyne & Wear are both rivers. The Tyne is a large river in Newcastle where Geordies come from. The River Wear goes through Sunderland (Newcastle's rival). The River Wear also goes through Durham, however Durham is not in Tyne & Wear, it's in County Durham.
@the0siren0of0night
4 жыл бұрын
My parents have done something revolutionary with scones...cut it in half like a bread roll, put jam on one side and cream on the other...put both sides together and eat it like a sandwich! 🥪... and it's pronounced s-con... the fastest cake in the west!
@lucianmorn7273
4 жыл бұрын
Historically, Yorkshire was divided into three ridings and the Ainsty of York. The term 'riding' is of Viking origin and derives from Threthingr meaning a third part. The three ridings in Yorkshire were named the East Riding, West Riding and North Riding.
@bangimagun
4 жыл бұрын
the north west has some lovely hard names to pronounce, Cholmondley, Fazakerly, Saughall, Bache and of course Ashby-de-la-Zouch. My American cousins from California came over a few years ago and I've never heard place names butchered so boldy!
@zygonwhoboy03
4 жыл бұрын
Rugby is a very nice place (It's where I live!). It is very good place to travel due to the good train links to London, Birmingham, Liverpool, Wales and most other UK based places!
@Goodhandleswheretaken
3 жыл бұрын
I’m from Shropshire and I was dead impressed to hear you say it like that usually people say it like sh-rope-shire but you said it the right way. But Shrewsbury is something everyone in our country is torn on 😅, I’m from Telford too
@andyt8216
4 жыл бұрын
@wanderingravens - there are a lot of comments regarding my beloved Yorkshire, but in a nutshell ….there are 4 modern day counties of Yorkshire - North, South, West and East (which uniquely is known as the East Riding of Yorkshire) and 3 historical Ridings - North, West and East. Talk of city mayors, boundary changes and the changes of 1974 (when the East Riding was temporarily abolished until it rose like a Phoenix again in 1996) serve only to confuse!
@YourBeingParanoid
4 жыл бұрын
Fab video - also, Newcastle upon Tyne (Geordieland) is in Tyne & Wear (both Tyne and Wear are rivers and also the words mean river) wayeyemanpet!
@abbyhuntley3171
4 жыл бұрын
Tyne & Wear is my county! And you are right, it is two rivers. The Tyne runs through Newcastle (my city) and the Wear through Sunderland (our rival football city!)
@pabmusic1
4 жыл бұрын
You're forgetting the Great Vowel Shift, which occurred between the 15th and 17th centuries. ER was pronounced AR (Chaucer in the 14th century has "ers" for "arse"). Most place-names were well established by the time the pronunciation changes, so Berkshire and Derby weren't altered. This is not universal, though, and Berkhamstead is pronounced 'burk...". The same applies to the British pronunciation of 'clerk' (as clark) and the British/American pronunciation of 'sergeant' and 'hearth'. And many more. Sometimes the old pronunciation remained ('merchant') while a surname derived from it (Marchant) adopted the new spelling - because it was newer.
@KompridiCR
4 жыл бұрын
I say Northamptonshire as Nor-thamp-tun-sheer.
@Battyuk66
3 жыл бұрын
As someone who lives in Devon ,we do shorten from the official name of Devonshire ..Devon and Cornwall are both gorgeous counties in their own right .. And Berkshire is pronounced as Barkshire..xx
@republicofroddistantv3470
4 жыл бұрын
You guys should come to the East Midlands! Come to my city Nottingham and see Sherwood Forest with your own eyes 😊
@keithorbell8946
4 жыл бұрын
Greater Manchester includes two cities and eight boroughs: Manchester, Salford, Wigan, Bolton, Bury, Rochdale, Oldham, Tameside, Stockport and Trafford. It borders Cheshire, Merseyside, Lancashire, West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire and Derbyshire.
@chaoringmeister
4 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed that you’ve gradually got better and better at this throughout lockdown. Answering though Northamptonshire question, it’s accent dependant, locals would say something close to norfamptnshur. So heres a question for you, I know that there are some rather significant accent changes throughout the US, what is the general etiquette at all in pronouncing place names? For example, here in the UK, it can seem condescending to pronounce places using the local accent if it wasn’t my normal accent, case in point I would not call Glasgow, glazgie because I’m not Glaswegian.
@Duchess_of_Cadishead
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely jam before the cream. I am from Manchester originally. And as with Derby, Hertford etc, we pronounce clerk as Clark.
@ddemaine
4 жыл бұрын
In Shakespeare's day, "er" was pronounced like "ar" is now. This stuck with some placenames: Derby, Berkshire, Clerkenwell, Hertford. It's also why we have "sergeant". The word parson comes from the old way of saying person. Greater Manchester is based on the urban area of Greater Manchester, which spreads beyond the city of Manchester itself. Tyne & Wear covers the towns and cities on estuaries of the River Tyne and River Wear. It was originally going to be called just Tyneside, but folk in Sunderland (Mackems) objected, as they are on the Wear. There are two West Midlands. The region of WM, which covers the western-central area of England. Then county of West Midlands, which covers Birmingham and Black Country (WM Urban Area) plus Coventry Yorkshire was originally divided into three "ridings", coming from the Norse word meaning third. When Humberside was abolished in 1996, the name EROY was revived; perhaps to emphasise the historic, after the unpopular creation of Humberside. EROY is both a geographic county and a smaller council area: The former is usually called "East Yorkshire", while the latter is "the East Riding (Council)". If you want to say Bristol like a local, it's "Brizzle". In Cornwall, you would say Corrrrnwall, R is burred in West Country. Cumbria is "coombria", like the oo in book. Locals in Durham often say du-*ram*. "-ham" suffix is said "um". "Notting-um", "Burmin-gum" and so on. Fun fact: UK is comprised of around 6000 islands, and one sixth of one. Great Britain is by far the largest island (which in turn gives its name to the landmass of England, Scotland and Wales).
@mrmessy7334
4 жыл бұрын
And yes, Tyne and Wear. The River Tyne runs through Newcastle upon Tyne (of Newcastle Broon Ale fame) and the River Wear runs through Sunderland and Durham. When you come back you should definitely visit the north east. Durham is a "quaint" old Cathedral City, Newcastle is a vibrant post-industrial party capital, and you can carry on up to Northumberland for the rugged coastline, castles, remote countryside, Hadrian's Wall and it's Roman ruins. (This comment was not sponsored by Visit Northumberland)
@EessaTube
3 жыл бұрын
The 'sex' part comes from the fact that those areas were controlled by Saxons who invaded from Germany. Sussex was South Saxon area, Wessex was the West Saxon area and so on.
@miasancto
4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Yorkshire is split into 4 different counties, because it was so big when it was one county. Each Yorkshire county is still really big for counties though.
@jamess7533
4 жыл бұрын
The rivers Tyne and Wear run through the cities Newcastle and Sunderland respectively very close to the Scottish Borders. There is a large rivalry between the two city’s and county Tyne and Wear is a small county encasing the two cities.
@jenniedarling3710
4 жыл бұрын
Yes Tyne and Wear are rivers in the North East of England near Newcastle.
@jerry2357
4 жыл бұрын
Yorkshire is the largest English county, so it was divided into thirds for administrative purposes. Each part was called a “Riding”, meaning a third part. The three Ridings were the West, North and East Ridings. But the West Riding was the largest and since local government was reorganised in the 1970s, this no longer exists. Both the current West Yorkshire and South Yorkshire were parts of the former West Riding.
@elbecko7969
4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, you've done a lot better than many local radio advert voiceover artists who've taken to pronouncing shire "sheer" rather than "shuh". When the hell did that bad habit start?!? Btw GM (Vauxhall) vans were named Bedfords. Also, I believe there's a proper way of pronouncing Utah, so these things work both ways! Nice video. I'm from Herefordshire and very often I get letters addressed to Hertfordshire. The computer lady is wrong - it's not "Suffick". You were right: it's "Suffuck!!"
@pipercharms7374
4 жыл бұрын
I'm from Hertfordshire :), its pronounced how its said apart from the shire at the end- sher.
@paulbamber1611
4 жыл бұрын
Merseyside is where the city of Liverpool is, I am from greater Manchester, a town called Wigan but the accent here it sounds like Wigin.
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