I always thought Phoebe was a good representation of a traumatized character. People who grow up traumatized can lose their filter and either not know or care that what they're talking about will make things awkward for other people, because it's their life and it's so normal, and keeping it secret and pretending to be well-adjusted is a lot of emotional labour. Phoebe was honest about being traumatized, and didn't care that it made other people think she was weird. and I love that. Her dark backstory informed her character, and I thought it was refreshing, instead of having her only talk about her trauma in serious moments. Living with trauma can be like that!
@ieatteeth5605
Жыл бұрын
as someone who has experienced a lot of traumatic events at a young age she is really great representation
@hopekeeley2122
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, sometimes I can act just like her, forgetting that some of the shit I went through just isn’t normal people activity
@NameAndShameless
Жыл бұрын
@@hopekeeley2122 Same here
@chunellemariavictoriaespan8752
Жыл бұрын
Is it weird as to why my speech patterns finally makes sense?
@ginger_panapple
Жыл бұрын
I agree with this but I also see some autistic traits with Phoebe that I relate to
@tyytlerwhoknows821
Жыл бұрын
Wait! Joey was also the most loyal. He also accepted anyone, literally anyone on their own terms and he was completely non judgemental. Those qualities are to be admired. They are very rare.
@victorsamsung2921
Жыл бұрын
Joey was a great friend ... and what you would like to have in a friend. Concerning his loyalty and unwavering support and commitment. Even when it's not directly or equally reciprocated.
@bradwolf07
Жыл бұрын
There was the time in (Vegas, I think? Fuzzy on that) and Rachel was drunk. Joey gave her the "How you doin'?" When Rachel responded positively to it, he IMMEDIATELY ordered her cut off and be watched. He could have taken advantage of her, but Joey isn't like that. It was one of the moments that endeared me to him. He was a GOOD friend.
@anjou6497
Жыл бұрын
Yep. Agree 👍😎🌱🤣💖
@tanhatarannumlatif4735
Жыл бұрын
Right? I dont get why people say joey cheats when he doesnt, he just hooks up with attractive girls and then ghosts them and thats it. He never cheated while he was in a relationship tho (unlike ross bonnie & rachel)
@slaysnow1694
Жыл бұрын
@@tanhatarannumlatif4735 He did cheat on Cathy though
@jackalthereefer
Жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't talk more about Phoebe's arcs pre-Mike. Everything with her meeting her Dad, her brother, finding out who her real Mom is, carrying the triplets, that's all my favorite "dramatic" stuff from Friends.
@rita2506
Жыл бұрын
Good call!
@victorsamsung2921
Жыл бұрын
Probably, because, the "dramatics" of Ross & Rachel, as well as the steady life of Monica & Chandler, got to overshadow Phoebe's arc in every possible way.
@filiporvik2782
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's nice, then it never goes anywhere. The effects don't matter, the new family members she finds never comes back, or just as well shouldn't have, and the triplets, none of this has a lasting impact of her or anything she does. Neither does her aunt dying off screen.
@Kate09090
Жыл бұрын
@@filiporvik2782 It’s really unfortunate that the writers did that. I kinda wish that, instead of Mike being Phoebes happy ending, her happy ending could’ve been getting to reunite in some meaningful way with the family she had reconnected with over the years. That would have given her the family she’s always wanted and been more meaningful to the audience than…Paul Rudd. (No offense to Paul, he did a good job).
@filiporvik2782
Жыл бұрын
@@Kate09090 I get her wanting a normal family finally, but the other family members could played such a good part in that. I'd start her off in season 1 constantly trying to get Ursula to hang out, and etc, and when she finds out about her dad she gets crazy for finding him, only to lead to her over the span of the show learning to stop forcing people to be in her life of they don't want to, and find the beauty of her other friends, (Monica, Rachel, Ross, Joey and Chandler) choosing her when they didn't have to. And that goes doubly for Mike. And then you could have the parent(s) walk her down the aisle because they wanted to, not because she got them to, instead of... You know... Being completely absent.
@oliviamarr6476
Жыл бұрын
I grew up in an Anti-Ross household (even though I am the odd one out for wanting Rachel to be with Joey lol) but damn David Schwimmer is such a good actor
@realGBx64
Жыл бұрын
yeah, and looking up the cast now two decades later, he's the best looking one out of all six by far :D
@kyleellis1825
Жыл бұрын
It's weird, I'm usually on Ross' side when it comes to his and Rachel's relationship based arguments. But I'm usually on anyone but his side when it's not relationship stuff. And then by season 9, when Ross is going to therapy, he actually becomes one of my favourites.
@hangtownranger
Жыл бұрын
He was a great comedic actor for the show, but I hated him through it all and if Rachel were my friend I would warn her to stay away from him. Too selfish, possessive, insecure and most of all so ugly. It’s funny someone else says he was the best looking. I always had trouble watching (edited: because his character is so horrid to me) he became ugly to me. (Edited: but yes, he did age the best, and he was good in the OJ Simpson movie).
@realGBx64
Жыл бұрын
@@hangtownranger i am saying now he is the most good looking, in 2022. He aged very gracefully compared to the others.
@oz_jones
Жыл бұрын
@@hangtownranger Rachel wasnt that much better. Incredibly toxic relationship
@Su-mx7ix
Жыл бұрын
I feel like when people accuse Ross of homophobia, they keep missing a crucial point: he’s angry at Carol and Susan not because they’re not straight, but because they cheated. I 100% believe they’d have written his resentment the same way had Carol cheated with another man. Sure, lesbianism being the butt of the joke can be unsavoury, but I don’t think the writers did it maliciously
@oliverford5367
Жыл бұрын
The show came out before twitter, and before wokeness. It was progressive in its time but was made when we could still laugh at things without a load of angry articles saying it's problematic
@CelesteSinger1
Жыл бұрын
LITERALLY! I feel like people can be so dumb
@spenser9908
Жыл бұрын
Not only that, but he was still semi-civil to the person who his wife had an affair with, despite her being rude and dismissive to him, so that he could still have a relationship with his son.
@auntiewewe972
Жыл бұрын
Well sure , and remember Friends was one of the first American TV shows to intergrate LGBTQ characters, storylines. Especially on a longterm basis. Which was pretty impressive and groundbreaking at the time. And why today many may view those things as cringe, it actually pretty much reflected society's view at that moment in time. And why today most shows have a gay character, basically almost a " sitcom trope" today, like the ditzy friend, rebellious child, doomed relationship plotlines of the past. It's mistakenly refered today as " woke" because some are determined to make that the most overused term in history. But it's actually societal evolution, and growth.
@ValentinG23
Жыл бұрын
what the hell is ,,homofhobia” ??? cuz me not agreeing amd feeling disgusted with men poking each other where they defecate and 2 women using dildos to substitute a dick isn’t a phobia …
@JakobIsOkay
Жыл бұрын
Joey was originally just the pretty actor guy and slowly became a literal child
@unicornL
Жыл бұрын
I hate that specific character arc
@kookytoots6755
Жыл бұрын
In most sitcoms the character arc that was probably not the main arc just a part of their personality they started out with steadily become the only character arc. Found it with all the friends characters and even ofah etc
@asdabir
Жыл бұрын
@@kookytoots6755 what is ofah
@pm6127
Жыл бұрын
@@asdabir only fools and horses sitcom
@MicukoFelton
Жыл бұрын
The redeeming thing is that he always loved his friends.
@jbcatz5
2 жыл бұрын
The binge model of watching doesn’t do the Ross and Rachel relation any favours. This was airing week by week before DVD box sets were a thing and you needed to build an extension if you wanted anywhere near a decent TV collection on VHS. Clip shows were still a thing because we didn’t have KZitem yet. When you watch the relationship with back to back episodes it’s obvious how fragile it is, the issues keeping it from being stable long term.
@ericfraley9031
Жыл бұрын
By the end of the show, they did Matt LeBlanc and Courtney Cox so dirty. Monica went from the cool, collected, sassy mom friend to nothing but a shrill bundle of nerves. Joey was always a bit of an airhead, but he was witty enough in the first few seasons that he could actually riff with the other friends. By season 10 he was completely devoid of braincells to the point where it wasn't funny anymore. I think the others got decent development and character arcs that mostly made sense; Rachel in particular had really strong development through the whole show. But what they did to Joey and Monica was unfair.
@Jay9966
Жыл бұрын
Its sad, she was a capable, pretty and strong woman in the beginning, then she devolved into this OCD freak that only has OCD as her defining feature. Rachel definitely came a long way compared to the dumb princess that she started out as, although I really hated her relationship with Ross, generally I hate that they keep doing the on and off and on and off bullshit like a lot of sitcoms do, it kills any love I have for the interactions between characters. Especially the "I thought we were on a break" bit, if it was a deal breaker, just fuck off, if you can forgive him for it, do it already. I'd love it more if Rachel actually went away and got with someone else or if they got together earlier and stayed together. The particular part where I hated their relationship the most was that Ross was with someone and then Rachel had to be all jealous and shit. Extremely toxic, she didn't want him, but she also didn't want anyone else to have him.
@darabrummett1539
10 ай бұрын
yes!! sometimes it feels like by the end some characters were just charicature of their original selves
@JudyCZ
7 ай бұрын
Yes! There's not a storyline I hate more in Friends than "Joey can't speak French". I felt like the creators were insulting my intelligence there as a viewer.
@greciabarraza4986
Жыл бұрын
Ross: I wonder how many people would see Jurassic parka Devil’s wear Prada: hold my beer
@valerieschiller7658
Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@MillyLou
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention--fashion/costuming is a massive part of literally every TV show/movie/live performance.
@007Julie
Жыл бұрын
YES! Every time I hear that joke I think of The Devil Wears Prada, it was a massive success and still one of the best comedies ever.
@karinalumen9722
Жыл бұрын
@@MillyLou and a billion dollar industry, dinosaurs are not
@pvuccino
Жыл бұрын
Miranda Priestley was waaaay scarier than any of those velociraptors.
@chutspe
Жыл бұрын
The one with the Lesbian Wedding may have aged poorly, but we can't expect a 2022-perspective on LGBTQ issues in an episode written in 1996 (or so). Also, I always liked the subtle but powerful display of Susan's dad coming to his lesbian daughter's wedding as proudly as ever, wearing his Westpoint uniform and all.
@Candy-md1uk
Жыл бұрын
Honestly i really liked their whole subplot because it showed lesbians in a kind of realistic way, having kids, taking care of them, just living a normal life. Which i think is nice for a sitcom of that decade. Sure some of the jokes aged badly but it’s a good storyline
@bobbyokeefe4285
Жыл бұрын
Yeah,what do you want?most KZitemrs suffer from a case of presentism,they cannot for the life of them,judge something in it's time period and not put on it our modern outrage/cancel culture,same with the whole Ross "toxicity".
@airotkiv
Жыл бұрын
@@bobbyokeefe4285 I mean to be fair, Ross being a self-absorbed crybaby isn't really related to any current political or sociological issues, it was true then, it's true today and it would've been true 100 years ago lmao
@bobbyokeefe4285
Жыл бұрын
@@airotkiv Perhaps...but that's besides the point,no one tried to go after the character back in the day,people got that it was just comedy without any moral judgement,now entertainment is all about virtue signalling,audiences take everything so literally without any context or distance.
@airotkiv
Жыл бұрын
@@bobbyokeefe4285 I think analyzing a show and its characters doesn't equal "going after a character". A show needs annoying characters too, not everybody can be likeable. Ross' character is obnoxious to many, but that's what makes him entertaining. Loving the show and appreciating the comedy and seeing Ross or others as flawed isn't mutually exclusive to me!
@MrsUzumaki
Жыл бұрын
This is great analysis but I must immensely disagree with your take on Phoebe's ending. You must look at it through the lens of someone who has been through a lot of trauma. And as someone who has, nothing would make me happier than having a stable life with a loving partner. Because of her background, it makes a lot of sense for her to want this and they showed that in a lightbulb moment when she realised she DID want to be that "soccer mum". Also, I loved her relationship with Mike. I thought they were very cute together. He never put down her quirks whilst also showing that you can't really do shit like keep dirty rats around. He's a great partner for her. Phoebe had grown into a healthy, functioning adult with a healthy, functioning relationship, and that's all anyone who had been through what she had been through could ask for.
@elijahalbiston
5 ай бұрын
I agree with you, but the take on Mike being a prop was far too accurate. He felt out of place with the rest of the group. Perfect for Phoebe though. I wish they spent more time fleshing him out rather than highlighting the awkwardness in scenes with the guys.
@paulondawula1011
2 жыл бұрын
The thing with Emily is that she didn't have to agree to get married to Ross if it was too soon. If Ross is foolish for proposing too soon, then Emily is foolish for accepting too soon. She also shouldn't have reconciled with Ross in the first place if she couldn't trust him. Emily's actions were understandable not faultless.
@billmilligan7272
Жыл бұрын
Emily also got remarried very, very quickly. I was always impressed by how consistent they made her character.
@gonaedeath2
Жыл бұрын
I think she just loved him too much
@kellywolstenholme8134
Жыл бұрын
@@billmilligan7272 exactly, so it clearly wasn’t just a Ross problem. In fact, Emily was the original spontaneous one who encouraged Ross to be more like that. He might’ve taken it too far FIRST, but she caught up pretty quickly and kept that pace going after divorcing Ross.
@SayaCeline
Жыл бұрын
If you recall though, she thought she trusted him way more than she actually did and seemed to realize it while she was talking with him on the phone. He asked her if she trusted him and she said no and then it was the end of it. Really she wasn't even being that unreasonable to expect him to cut an ex out of his life. The show did her so dirty by acting like she was being so horrible for wanting him to cut Rachel out of his life because they were the golden couple. Also think about it from her side, she wanted to reconcile with him after he had spent their wedding day/night/next day begging her and insisting that it meant nothing. She loved him and decided that their marriage was worth fighting for, so she goes to the airport and sees him getting on a plane with Rachel. After that it was once again Ross pushing to reconcile with her and she finally gives in again. Come to think of it, he seemed to push her into a lot of things because that's just how he is.
@Lillireify
Жыл бұрын
Somebody made a great video pointing out just how dirty the writers were to Emily's character.
@BenChanNYC
2 жыл бұрын
I get why they did it, but the finale made ZERO sense. *They're raising a child together* - Rachel moving to Paris was never going to be a "goodbye" between them.
@unicornL
Жыл бұрын
I dunno look what happened to Ben lol
@locke8412
Жыл бұрын
@@unicornL who
@unicornL
Жыл бұрын
@@locke8412 I dunno if you're joking or serious, but that's the point. The child he had w Carol, who was raising that child w Susan.
@jackthehat1093
Жыл бұрын
@@unicornL Ben appeared loads of times in the series. He was just a peripheral character. He was in the Holiday Armadillo episode when he was all grown up. I don't know why people act like Ross forgot about Ben when he appears all the way through the series. Ben lives with Carol and Susan so he's obviously not going to be a permanent presence in the show.
@supergirlvideoclips894
Жыл бұрын
The show is unfortunately written from Ross's perspective so what Rachel feels and whether she can keep her job and be together with Ross is never even considered by the writers.
@jbcatz5
2 жыл бұрын
Considering the last two seasons were building up to an ending the writers could have used season ten as Ross and Rachel doing soul searching and fixing their character flaws as individuals and as romantic partners so they could come back as a couple, a healthy couple this time, in the finale and earning it. Sitcom viewers are suckers for a redemption arc and to redeem not only two characters but also the relationship that had fans so invested seems like a no brainer.
@JoelJoel321
Жыл бұрын
You're right. There was never an episode like the one in Scrubs where Elliott and JD have a deep heart to heart.
@victorsamsung2921
Жыл бұрын
_"Sitcom viewers are suckers for a redemption arc and to redeem not only two characters but also the relationship that had fans so invested seems like a no brainer."_ Tell that to the producers and writers at Friends and executives at WB and NBC etc. Or whoever was ultimately responsible for the storytelling and development at Friends. For I continue to wonder what went wrong inside their brains to have messed up seasons 9 & 10 as much as they have. I mean, when you have the actors, like Jennifer Aniston and Matt LeBlanc, voicing their complain, disagreement and stating why, regarding Rachel/Joey, you don't ignore it. There is a reason why it doesn't work and won't work. Not to forget, wasting potential on something more englightening and inspirational, like Rachel and Rose doing some soul-searching and slowly but steadily start working their way back together.
@jellyhappening1458
Жыл бұрын
I've always felt this. I really love friends, and feel that season 10 slowly fixing Ross and Rachel's problems that kept them apart would have made it even better
@marianat1393
11 ай бұрын
YES. I think the best would be if they got together after Emma instead of that stupid joey proposal
@pascalcallemien2498
Жыл бұрын
Yes, Rachel and Joey was weird, but even more weird was the fact that after they 'broke up' the relationship was never talked about or hinted at again, they just went on as if nothing ever happened, and that really showed that the writers realised they made a mistake.
@anshitgupta1294
Жыл бұрын
Ikr. It was smart imo. Their relationship is the cringes thing ever
@aestxviv
Жыл бұрын
@@anshitgupta1294 roey was the worse plotline in the show imo. they were so wrong for eachother, great friends but a horrible relationship pair. everytime those episodes come up i skip them because of how awkward they were
@BigBadWolfieWolfs
5 ай бұрын
Yep. Anyone who actually likes the Rachel and Joey relationship is an idiot and living in denial about how desperate and horrible it really was.
@BigBadWolfieWolfs
5 ай бұрын
Yep. Anyone who actually likes the Rachel and Joey relationship is an idiot and living in denial about how desperate and horrible it really was.
@MilaVasileva-r1e
Жыл бұрын
I disagree with Ross/Carol take. Being a lesbian is not a flow, but cheating and using someone is. She used Ross, had an affair, left him for her AP, and tried to make the pregnancy and child only about her and Susan. If you take out the sexuality aspect that's a horrible person. Ross had all rights to his negative emotions and still he chose to walk his cheating ex down the aisle. He is a bigger person than me, because I wouldn't even been able to attend such wedding. And she asked his sister to cater... Actually, now that I think back to the show, I don't remember him being homophobic towards Carol and Susan at all.
@donnieward6287
2 ай бұрын
This. Like as someone who finds Ross to be one of my least favorite characters, I empathize with him, dudes cheated on by his spouse, his spouse divorces him for the person she cheated on him with, finds out she's pregnant, brings the woman she cheated on him with to every appointment, either unconsciously or consciously she and her spouse, who again cheated on him, try to make all decisions about their child without Ross's input. He has to deal with Susan's, at best, indifference to him and at worst straight up harassment, and he's still able to put this all aside to be there for the woman he loved. Yeah the "they're lesbian" thing was pushed a little too much but if you replaced Susan with a generic male actor, no one would be in their corner and the entire audience would be wishing for Ross to be an absolute dick to both of them. It's a sitcom so I can't expect much but I would've loved a scene between Ross, Susan and Carol where they clear the air. "Sorry I couldn't keep living a lie, I know what I did wasn't ideal but can we please move forward and raise this kid together with no hard feelings?"
@padenal6069
15 күн бұрын
I cannot stand how people talk about Susan and Carol like they were just trying to live their lives. Ross has so many jokes made at his expense because HE WAS CHEATED ON. Susan and Carol piss me off
@thewhovianwithasmallcollec7319
2 жыл бұрын
phoebes wedding is probs the best thing in the whole show its so beautiful love her and that episode
@harshithas3567
2 жыл бұрын
@@leejones8582 I thought that was just a joke, like when a friend just pretends to be mean, I mean phoebe has been there for chandler, but is just mean to him for no reason which makes it funny
@miguelpinheiro6042
Жыл бұрын
@@leejones8582 Yes! This is ignored by most people
@mr.moviemafia
Жыл бұрын
Glad to see other people talk about how much healthier, relatable and engaging of a couple Monica and Chandler are than Ross and Rachel
@justaname999
Жыл бұрын
When I was younger, I thought the shark storyline was a super self-aware nod to the "jumping the shark" cliche.
@laraoneal7284
11 ай бұрын
Rip Matthew. We loved you.
@WillStephensArt
Ай бұрын
He may have well been a credited writer for how many great lines he threw in there ! Some of the best lines
@IOrganiseContentUK
Жыл бұрын
I'm a gay trans man who grew up watching Friends (started at 3 years old and really haven't stopped over the last 21 years), and I grew up in a very rural area of NY where there were maybe 10 people of colour and nobody around me that was openly LGBTQ+ In that environment, the late 90's and early 00's version of representation made me understand that these people existed and could just be like "everyday people" (as in the main 6 to my child brain, lol) in the world. Looking back at it, it isn't the ideal representation of LGBT people that the late-2010s and beyond have strived for, but it was never meant to be that, it was good representation of the community for the time. The Seinfeld episode (where they're like "not that there's anything wrong with that") often gets brought up in these types of discussions, and that's not perfect representation either, and the LGBT people are often the butt of the joke; but, Seinfeld won a GLAAD award for that episode, and tbh that's how I feel about the LGBT+ representation in Friends- it's not perfect, or ideal, especially by post-2010s standards, but it was GOOD for the time. They even had the guts to introduce an LGBT+ couple that remains for the *entire* series in Episode 1!!!! Like I think that including LGBT+ people into being the butt of the joke *in a sitcom* is fine when every other character gets made to be the butt of the joke, and I don't understand applying modern standards to media that's literally over 15 years old. But yeah, that's just my thoughts as one LGBT+ person who was heavily impacted by Friends as a child.
@ianesgrecia8568
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. And they were also the first lesbian wedding on TV if I remember right. People saying that Friends is homophobic either didn't watch the show or take their jokes too seriously. The serious moments with representation ARE ACTUALLY GOOD. And the jokes are that. JOKES. To make people of the time laugh. If they age good or bad is irrelevant because their objective is to make people OF THAT TIME laugh. NOT TO SEND A MESSAGE. The Message btw, they DID SEND but in the serious moments with the wedding and with Carol and Susan. The writers knew WHEN to make the impact and make the emotions land.
@Cheesusful
Жыл бұрын
@@ianesgrecia8568 agreed, Carol and Susan's relationship is probably one of the healthiest ones on the show
@diimidosemineral9261
Жыл бұрын
@@Cheesusful true😂
@emilytretyak2534
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. What people don’t understand is that this kind of butt of joke representation paved the way for modern representation.
@diimidosemineral9261
Жыл бұрын
@@emilytretyak2534 I hundredpercent agree with you, I don’t remember him being homophobic so I was little confused by that. If people are saying that hating a specific gay person is now homophobia that’s nonsensical, if I hate somebody for burglarizing my house and I find out that they’re Jewish I’m not antisemitic I just dislike a Jewish person for trashing my house. He could’ve had other comments that were seen as homophobic or insensitive it’s been a while since I’ve watched the show start to finish
@stephenhillier3522
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you've manged to make me feel better about spending so many hours watching Friends back in the day. Just the once mind you. On the ending, yes, I guess they had to get the golden couple back together, but what I've never understood is why do it that way? It must have occurred to someone in the writing team that Ross going to Paris was an option, or even a long distance relationship? And yet they went with Rachel getting off the plane. Well, I suppose at least it was her choice, but her choice to also give up a great career? That's just plain awful.
@BobRobertsMusic
Жыл бұрын
I think he could've and would've gone with her, but just as with Emily and moving to London, he couldn't leave Ben behind, which I think is extremely valid as he was only 9(?) years old at the end of the show and deserved to have his father around on a regular basis. I also wonder how different a long distance relationship would've been back then, without smartphones and video calls and being cut off in a way we aren't anymore today (plus of course there was now another child in the mix, so one of the two of them would have to miss out). I don't know if that necessarily means Rachel shouldn't have taken her dream job, but I at least don't believe there was anything wrong with Ross needing to stay, I really appreciate that in fact.
@Skye_Writer
Жыл бұрын
@@BobRobertsMusic absolutely right, this was a time when if you wanted to get in touch with your husband to let him know you were labor, you had to _call his beeper_ and leave a number for him to call you back. Cell phones were something the friends didn't come by until the end of the show, and this was back in the day when there was no free long distance for cell phones (I know; I worked for AT&T Wireless Long Distance at the time, and explaining why members got 2 charges--one for long distance, and another for roaming long distance--was a chore I undertook literally dozens of times a day) and calling internationally usually required the purchase of calling cards. The problem is that the show didn't do a good enough job of displaying the fact that Ross was a dad to another kid already. Once Ben aged up to the point where he couldn't be played by a doll and the young actor was old enough to start to understand (or at least repeat) some of the risque jokes the show used, we saw less and less of Ben and the writers eventually forgot to mention him. Ross's machinations to keep Rachel in town were as much to be a part of his baby's life as to keep Rachel there. There were episodes soon after Ben was born that showed how bummed out Ross was about missing out on all the first moments his son had because he wasn't with him all the time, and he didn't want that to happen with Emma. Despite that, his machinations were despicable, and I was always ticked off that he didn't have the guts to sit down and TALK with Rachel about it like a grown-up. He was in his late 30s after all. The only way he redeemed himself was by telling her to go to Paris. When he realized that it wasn't just about the money and the position title, that she wanted this badly, he told her to go and to follow her dream. In the end, he wanted her to be happy more than he wanted to keep her there, which is a sign of true and actual love.
@esseNoir
Жыл бұрын
she gave up a great career?? She had a top positions at Ralph Lauren. In Manhattan. Plus, you don't leave a daughter without father just because you want to go to Paris, jesus christ
@theladyprincess
2 жыл бұрын
i've been rewatching the show lately (the first time i've done it in almost eight years) and honestly for some reason, i appreciate monica and chandler's relationship even more. also felt like some character backstories (phoebe's for example) if you take out the audience's laughter they'd somewhat feel as if they'd stem from something kinda deeper than just for comedic purposes
@TheRagingPlatypus
Жыл бұрын
I actually liked Janice. All thenfriends hated her but she was actually not a bad person. Yeah, she had that voice but so did the Nanny and I love her.
@Moriarty70
Жыл бұрын
I've always said Ross & Rachel deserve each other as spoiled brats who never moved beyond it (their focus on the break being an embodiment of it). While Monica and Chandler have had to deal with their emotions and accept the unfairness of life so they are willing to work, talk, and listen to each other to create a truly healthy relationship.
@kyleellis1825
Жыл бұрын
I dunno. Both really seemed to mature in Seasons 9/10. Ross got therapy and Rachel was at peace with her life. I really wish they just ended the series as co parents, not lovers.
@Historian212
9 ай бұрын
I wish that Ross had ended up with Charlie. She was absolutely the best match for him, compared to Ross’s various other partners. Why they trashed that relationship in the service of ending with Ross and Rachel getting back together, I’ll never know. The notion that partners who have virtually no interests in common except their kids make for a good longterm relationship is one of the stupidest aspects of showbiz pairing. And, I’m just going to say it: Monica belonged with Richard. The chemistry between the actors was off the charts, and afaic, Monica became a shrill shrew after that point in the show. I disliked the character, pretty much from that point on. I don’t know why, after a couple of years, sitcom characters tend to evolve into shrill screamers, but they set my teeth on edge. On Friends, Monica was by far the hardest for me to watch, after the Richard era. And if you watch the couple of episodes in which Richard appears again, you can see Courtney Cox return to Earlier Monica, a much better character. Also, in re Monica: do any of the recent critiques of the show focus on that wretched subplot about Monica’s hair in the Barbados episodes? Because that was so racist, so offensive - as someone with “ethnic hair” who suffered years of ridicule from other girls in a very white suburb - that I couldn’t believe it when those episodes aired. “Bad” hair? Wow. Not to mention the utter nonsense of pretending that a 30-yr-old woman with that type of hair wouldn’t have known how to manage it by then. As if there were no styling products or blow dryers, no scarves, no endless streams of articles in magazines about styling that type of hair. Since I was born in NYC and grew up on Long Island, I can attest that the summer humidity there can be brutal, and girls learn how to work with it. And have, since before the 90s. Appalling.
@AmmarsGC
Жыл бұрын
I feel so depressed finishing this amazing show. I started It in jan. this year and I also met this girl that was a big fan of the show aswell. And so, I've watched It everyday till today. I loved It!! She would always compare us to Chandler and Monica and I didn't quite understand until the London episode came in. Now that girl is my girlfriend and It just already makes me nostalgic for all the memories this show has made for us. Can't tell you how sad I feel now, without getting to have more of the experiences with these characters that helped me smile in life over and over again even tho that seemed impossible. I'll be there for you "Friends", cuz you're there for me too ♥️
@AlgunPersona
6 ай бұрын
If a girl told me we were Chandler and Monica, I would marry her on the spot
@melenatorr
Жыл бұрын
Phoebe was always my favorite character on the show (I could never get myself to like Rachel as much as the show wanted me to). So much of it was Kudrow and what she could do with the material, but there are some key points to her in relation to the other characters: she is often the one to pull them away from their nonsense. One of my favorites: when she as "Ben" pulls the plug on the conflict between Ross and Susan while Carol is in labor. She points out how lucky the baby is to have so many parents caring for it, comparing that with her own background. It is because of this that Ross and Carol name their baby Ben. Ross' child is Phoebe's namesake. She is the one to start the group integrating again after the Ross/Rachel breakup, in the episode where Ross rescues them in the snow. She has an interesting in-and-out affinity/conflict with Ross: the evolution/anti-evolution argument. The bagpipe. Ross' comprehension of how to overcome her fear of the bicycle. In the fantasy episode of inter-romance friends she and Ross are the couple. It's interesting to me that the two characters who might be furthest apart have strands that pull them together in ways the others can't understand.
@elijahfordsidioticvarietys8770
2 жыл бұрын
I recently watched all of Friends, and it was honestly alot better than I thought it would be. The biggest surprise about the show is how edgy it was. It's not South Park or anything, but its humor has some more bite than people gave it credit for. EDIT: Insomnia Cafe sounds more like the title of a weird horror show than a sitcom.
@karinalumen9722
Жыл бұрын
58:35 but it is explained. They wanted to make it seemed like it “wasnt a big deal” because it WAS so if they were to break -up it would end the friend group. This was the most accurate relationship. Because dating your friends doesn’t work out if there are any real feeling’s involved.
@Skye_Writer
Жыл бұрын
Right, because they had already been through this with Ross and Rachel and their breakup.
@Atalanta01
Жыл бұрын
Didn’t Carol cheat on Ross with Susan? If so, then she is in the wrong. He has every right to be upset about that, and I don’t blame him for wanting to get back with her. He isn’t toxic. Insecure and jealous, yes. But not toxic. To say he’s toxic takes away from people who really are, and people we should watch out for.
@jackthehat1093
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Carol was "working out" with Susan and Ross was supportive of her finding a new friend. Everyone shits on Ross but Carol was his high school sweetheart. He lost his virginity to her, married her and conceived a child with her. After all this she betrayed him and her and Carol even tried to nudge him out of the picture with his own son. I'd go as far as to say Carol is evil in the early seasons. She has absolutely no regard for Ross and no respect for his role as a father. When Susan says they refer to Ross as "the sperm guy" or when they try to give Ben Susans last name I was spitting foam. It really struck a nerve with me as someone who experienced something similar with my own son.
@that.ll_do_pig
4 ай бұрын
@@jackthehat1093they met in college. It's mentioned when they started dating in the Thanksgiving episode where Chandler loses the tip of his toe by Monica. 😊
@babbisp1
2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes, during my walks, I'll remember random Friends quotes and I'll start laughing on my own. And that's why I'll always love the show (Not really, that's just one reason, but it is a reason). I simply cannot be, nor want to be, objective about how "good" it is. That's just me.
@alexoceanmeow
2 жыл бұрын
I agree so much with how the Rachel/Ross series ending should have ended. I have hated forever how she once again sacrificed her career desires for a guy who literally would never. And we've seen Ross refuse to do a career move/change in canon with someone else: Emily. Like yeah, the argument of Ben is there, but Ben gets forgotten by like, what, s6? S7? Ross could have been doing a back-n-forth life there... but won't. So we can be like 99% sure if demanded by Rachel, he'd refuse her too. Ugh. The one-sided-ness of R&R with things like that just makes me more mad every time I rewatch Friends lol
@Roboshi2007
2 жыл бұрын
Ben wasn't so much forgotten as it was the showrunners didn't want to work with too many child actors, especially when they had a recurring baby "actor". To write off Ross' attachment to his own Son just because they didn't have Ben on camera, kind of sounds like you're trying to devalue Ross' agency in this. It's like when people say "Ben is only in like 6 episodes, you telling me Ross only sees his son 6 times in 10 years?", it just means they only wrote so many comedic situations for the character and you have to assume he sees his son a lot off camera (much like how we have to assume Phoebe saw her birth mother more off camera) There's another comment on this video that lays it out better, but Racheal's life is not just about her anymore, it's also about her daughter.
@sofiatakahashi5769
Жыл бұрын
LOL what about the time Rachel was HURT and made Ross stay when he was supposed to do an interview with the discovery channel
@alexoceanmeow
Жыл бұрын
@@sofiatakahashi5769 dude are you dumb or stupid lmao. He didn't tell Rachel he had that interview until later. I MEAN. I fucking haven't rewatched in a little bit, but I sure that's the case. So. No lmao. She didn't "manipulate" him out of a career thing or whatever it is you're trying to imply.
@snowpoler
Жыл бұрын
It's the biggest thing I'm mad about regarding Friends as well. Imagine if Rachel actually went for Paris... I actually would have preferred that and I think that would have carried a whole lot more emotional weight that the actual finale already does (I still fairly like it, but you get it). They played it safe for the fans by making Ross and Rachel "endgame" and making Rachel stay. It was a "happy ending" really unearned on his part, and an ending that really robbed her of something better for herself.
@sofiatakahashi5769
Жыл бұрын
@@alexoceanmeow take ur aggression somewhere lmao Rachel was way more manipulative than ross.
@DavidFraser007
Жыл бұрын
I never paid much attention to Friends back in the 90s, my wife and her sister loved it. But I was in hospital this year, so I binge watched it. I think it's revenge comedy. The Gellers are a dysfunctional family with a narcissistic Mother, Ross is the toxic golden child who can do no wrong, Monica is the scapegoat, she is maligned and blamed for everything, she is a perfectionist in the vain hope she won't be criticized . Jack Geller is the co-dependent husband and weak father. They even mention the toxic grandmother. I'm guessing the writers experienced this and crafted the story into a comedy. I'm also guessing that some family members would have watched the successful show and cringed all the way through. My favourite moment of all time is when Jack Geller gives his Porsche to Monica and Ross has a tantrum shouting, What about me? I'm guessing again, that something like this actually happened, maybe other incidents too. As this video mentions, Ross gets worse and worse, David Schwimmer plays it with relish, he got the full character brief for sure.
@kyaksachan502
Жыл бұрын
that just makes the friends a whole lot better in that perspective. Loved it in my youth but can't bring myself to watch it anymore. Maybe this will help me enjoy it.
@radish1395
Жыл бұрын
Monica is the mom friend because she was never given the emotional support of a mom, and is projecting that onto those around her. Well, no wonder I relate to Monica the most. Fuck.
@twokidsandatripod
2 жыл бұрын
If you like the subtle darker undercurrent in Friends, you should really check out It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia. While that show is blatant satirical black comedy, there is genuine depth and thought put into the characters and world-building. It takes the “laughing at bad/stupid people doing bad/stupid things” to the extreme, which ultimately makes it so satisfying when we are rewarded with rich and subtle character work exploring all sorts of traumas and disorders. Highly recommend it if you haven’t seen it- as somebody with a black sense of humour, I think you’ll love it. Just try to stick with it through a few rough early episodes. Great, thoughtful analysis btw :)
@disgustof-riley8338
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was like "This guy absolutely needs to watch that"
@johnrockyryan
9 ай бұрын
IASIP is possibly the greatest sitcom ever made the characters are fucking hilariously awful but have incredible depth and the satire/social commentary is top notch
@DarthRiktus
Жыл бұрын
Chandler’s character arc is the the most fruitful IMO. Easily the most relatable character for most cis boys. Joey’s goofiness is exaggerated and Ross’ desperation is too sappy and tropey.
@robertmarginean164
Жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with people who say that the Friends characters are horrible people. I think they are absolutely amazing, precisely because collectovely they have pretty much every negative trait a persona can have. The magic (both in the writing ans the casting) is that you love them in spite of that and that makes them feel lile real people. Let's be honest, every single person in our lives, from our parents to our friends, significant others, coworkers and so on have stuff we don't like about them
@TheKeven28900
Жыл бұрын
By the time season 10 started Rachel has already achieved her dream. She made it into fashion, she became independent, she became a self-made woman. Her arc is done. While going to paris would elevate her career, i would argue her career is already elevated as is and that Paris is more of a luxary then anything extordinary.
@caroldevaney7630
Жыл бұрын
Ihaven't watched it all the way through in years, but I remember loving Racehl and Joey - it felt like a really sweet, kind and safe relationship
@supergirlvideoclips894
Жыл бұрын
If you forget Joey is a playboy.
@rnptenafly
Жыл бұрын
Only 5 minutes in, but the reason Phoebe is a more complete character is that she is the twin of a character developed on Mad About You. At this point I think the suggestion was that it is the same character. So, Lisa Kudrow had been playing this role for a few years and had already developed her back story.
@nilexxx
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! As a massive friends fan who watches episodes on the daily, it’s great to see someone analysing the show and going a bit more in depth. It made me realise a lot of new things that will make watching the show a little more meaningful for me from now on :) Especially the way you explained Monica and chandler’s relationship and why they so desperately wanted to keep it a secret - finally I understand the reasons! That was always one of the question marks in the show for me before
@KayBbyXOXOXO
Жыл бұрын
I think modern audiences want more of a It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia approach where the characters are punished for their actions and end up leading shitty lives for their bad choices
@pcmacintyre
2 жыл бұрын
Days of Our Lives is a lot of things, but medical soap opera? !? Also, Scrubs had a great finale as long as you accept the manta that season 9 never happened, or was really a bad spin-off. Season 9 is to Scrubs as the two seasons of Joey was to Friends or AfterMASH is to MASH.
@lukethomasdillon3762
Жыл бұрын
Great video. I always liked The Last One as it parallels much of their relationship. Mark being the catalyst for their break up as well as them getting back together. The airport setting much like the end of season 1 where Rachel sees him with Juley. I also like how this time Rachel prioritises her love over her career this time. The only thing I find weird about the episode is how bizzare that Ross is cool with his kid moving to Paris🤣
@thelync228
2 жыл бұрын
This is perfect I love longform content never thought I would see it from Stu
@MegaBenny666
2 жыл бұрын
After a long week at work I come home to this! Thank you so much for your hard work Stu! I will be able to unwind with this!
@faeinacup
Жыл бұрын
The morning after is one of my favourite episodes atm, its weirdly comforting
@robb2biago
11 ай бұрын
I watched Friends in real airing time. I can put on Friends, do 10 things, sit down for snack, and know exactly what’s gone on, what’s going on, and what will go on. I had at least 12 pieces of clothing that Joey wore, J Crew was big back then. Your analysis of the whole series is brilliant. Such great guest stars, Brooke Shields, my personal favorite, Christina Applegate, Tom Selleck, with and without mustache, Marlo, Teri Garr, John Lovitz, Morgan Fairchild, ok, now I’m just naming all of them. And the greatest recurring character ever, Maggie Wheeler. I had just moved from NYC when friends started, so it was an old, comforting friend, that just was. The Apothecary Table from Yor. Pottery Barn dishes. And yes, poor Paul Rudd. I liked David better. Any hoo, any beloved series ends kinda poorly, except Newhart, absolutely brilliant, and Mary Tyler Moore. My only issue with Kathleen Turner as Chandlers dad, hilarious, true, but in my mind, Chandlers dad was gay, and a drag performer, and not transgendered. I wish it would have been Harvey Fierstein instead. And that Joey spin off, horrible, nothing could have saved that. All in all, it was, we loved it, it brings back a simpler time. I only recently watched the Reunion show. It was fun, minus James Cordon, arsehole. HeeHee. And they should have had more of Dr Geller towards the later seasons. Once again, brilliant, and I loved the stick figure drawings. Cheers!
@jbcatz5
2 жыл бұрын
As much as the show likes to depict its protagonists as cautionary tales for different types of behaviour, there is a feeling some are treated more leniently than others. Specifically Rachel. She’s the one the show has as the success story, rising from the bottom to reach her dreams by her own effort rather than buying her way straight to the top with her daddy’s money, yet the actual narrative doesn’t quite support this. She makes dodgy relationship decisions that if one of the others, Ross especially, would get called out for. About season 7 iirc she hires Tag, a younger man, as her assistant specifically because she’s attracted to him and they soon start a relationship which ends because the age gap can’t be ignored. If Ross did this he would be burned in the fires of hatred from every single viewer. Additionally this leads to a very badly aged piece of dialogue when Gavin is introduced. He challenges Rachel to say Tag’s last name. She has to admit she doesn’t know it, and when Gavin provides it she quips he must have been in the relationship with Tag. Laugh track. Again, if this were Joey or Ross, the scene would have ended differently. The final episode’s conclusion to the Ross and Rachel relationship is another misjudged one by present day commentators. It’s often said Rachel should have stayed on the plane because Ross dragged her down. This ignores the context, that Rachel still had a job in New York and was ready to move herself and her toddler daughter to another continent away from Emma’s father and any existing support structure without even talking to Ross about it. The show was using this as a career woman move, but ignored the parent aspect to the character.
@Roboshi2007
2 жыл бұрын
not to mention the amount of shit phoebe gets away with, she's low-key the most egotistical, violent and judgemental character in the series.
@CL-jw4ei
Жыл бұрын
Ross had a whole relationship with one of his students what do you mean 😂
@jbcatz5
Жыл бұрын
@@CL-jw4ei Hadn’t Elizabeth already finished his class by the time they dated?
@bluegreen5377
Жыл бұрын
@@jbcatz5 She did, but it was still a teacher-student relationship that was banned by the university with good reason. She's 12 years younger than Ross. She's what, 19/20 to Ross's 31/32. I would say Ross and Rachel suck at the same level with these two relationships. Rachel was Tag's boss, while Ross got himself a girl who wasn't even allowed to drink legally.
@jbcatz5
Жыл бұрын
@@bluegreen5377 At least he knew Elizabeth’s surname and didn’t make any gay jokes about it.
@forty_two42
Жыл бұрын
I live 2 hours north of NYC. The "people who are too crazy to exist, but do" thing is so real. Also it ripples out rougly from North Jersey to Saratoga NY. It's insane.
@Anna-ip8ub
Жыл бұрын
I know this is a video out of passion and love for friends. I loved the video and the thoughtful analysis so much. I don’t know if you had watched how you met your mother but if you were to ever do a video on that, I would watch it in a heartbeat
@casualcraftman1599
2 жыл бұрын
If you want a show with a compelling dysfunctional romantic subplot, I recommend Better Call Saul. Kim and Jimmy relationship is able to have a balance of making each other happy while also being toxic for each other. Farscape & Avatar the Last Air Bender also have fantastic romantic subplots with its main characters. I also recommend the show Monk for being a fantastic comedy, a fantastic detective show, and being fantastic at portraying the grim emotions of losing the love of your life.
@casualcraftman1599
2 жыл бұрын
If you want a low hanging fruit of sitcoms to bash, I recommend reviewing anything by Dan Schneider. Dan Schneider made sitcoms for Nickelodeon and former iCarly star Jennette Mccurdy is publishing a book called I'm Glad My Mom Died August 9th 2022 that is going to revile a lot of terrible shit about Dan Schneider and Nickelodeon.
@chelmrtz
Жыл бұрын
A Moo point actually makes sense when you think about it 🐮
@dgc1570
Жыл бұрын
Yes, Monica and Chandler are relationship goals
@OPiONShouter
Жыл бұрын
I agree on most of what you say. I think Paul Rudd feeling like a prop was inevitable. It's a non-main cast playing a now main character (a husband to an old main character), so has to be present as much as possible, not to mention he doesn't work regularly. So all they can do is have him there, but giving him few to no lines. That said, Phoebe wanting normal things now because she never had normal things makes perfect sense. It works as a plot twist for her, and it's not that normal. Mike doesn't have too much of a routine and he is not that normal himself. They both have freelancing jobs and struggle financially at times, and seem okay with it. Everything is borderline normal, not freakishly boring. Also, while Joey and Rachel was made to not work out, I find it important and necessary to happen exactly because of what you said about Joey: he presented too little growth up to that point and he definitely experienced deep feelings with that arc, and definitely became a better person because of it. I am not sure whether they forgot the season 3 arc but you may argue that it could have been not as deep as it seemed, as it didn't last that long. We may have seen Joey mistaking short term extreme excitement for love, or it just happens that it was intense, but skin-deep. Not to mention that rejection, for Joey, is growth on its own, but there has to be a real relationship to have the complete experience of that growth, and that's where Rachel comes in. In season 3, most of what he feels and explores happens out of character interaction and more into his head, kind of like high school Ross. So it's still a bit vague and hypothetical. That kind of growth is completed with the presence of the other person.
@lisagibson773396
Жыл бұрын
Oh my word... of course the story lines are out dated. This was a series in the 90s/00. I think people should watch series from the 1960's and see how out dated they were. Yes times change and I'm happy about that,but leave historical culture alone.
@loganmackenzie5294
2 жыл бұрын
Another thing that I noticed about the difference between British and American comedies is the character dynamics character in American comedies are more respectful and more friendly too one and while on the other hand British comedies the character hate and are more spiteful to each other
@John-jw8mh
2 жыл бұрын
Yes but respectful and friendly in comedy equals boring, what makes comedy good in the first place is cynicism, sarcasm and tragedy which is why british comedy has always been superior to american cos brits understand comedy isnt about character development its about the exact opposite whereas yanks spent all of the 80s trying to make comedy about growth and sickly sentimentality which is why seinfeld worked cos it smashed through all that, friends has its moments but to me it was largely just another bog standard 90s sitcom doing too much drama and not enough comedy. With the rock music stings between scenes it has some badly dated cringe worthiness going on.
@HedeccaTamer
2 жыл бұрын
Fawlty Towers could NOT work with an American sitcom dynamic. The Inbetweeners also couldn't, and demonstrably didn't. If Friends was British, It'd be a CBBC show with 15+ humour that absolutely no one would watch. Or it could end up being like Not Going Out with a larger cast, I think that's the closest British TV got to a dynamic that'd work in America without changing anything since It's based on sarcasm and misunderstandings. On the flipside, Always Sunny is also VERY British in nature. Everything being identical but with a British cast would work flawlessly.
@John-jw8mh
2 жыл бұрын
@@HedeccaTamer they already tried ft several times in america, bea arthur was the closest they got and britain did try to do friends thats what coupling was written by steven moffat and it did have some success though not in america
@loganmackenzie5294
Жыл бұрын
Wait really Sorry it’s just that some of the American sitcom I’ve watched feel like they put more emphasis on the drama then comedy
@thatpeskyrat
Жыл бұрын
@@John-jw8mh I like british comedy more than american but some US comedy is pretty funny without needing its characters to hate each other, like b99. there’s a difference between feel-good comedy and darker british comedy and tbh it’s all down to personal preference
@doublestarships646
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this. It made me go down memory lane. I remember how much of a roller coaster of emotion this show was.
@GibbySoapBox
2 жыл бұрын
Okay it’s scary that I may not be the only person that has a similar “The One After the Last One” story… but I guess that’s what happens with Friends
@cesarrubio3412
Жыл бұрын
Ross and Rachel is a toxic relationship, not romantic. There I said it! 🎉
@starlaminde8436
Жыл бұрын
Agree
@oliverford5367
Жыл бұрын
It's a relationship between imperfect people. Who is perfect enough to not be "toxic"?
@starlaminde8436
Жыл бұрын
@@oliverford5367 I see and validate this point. However I feel Rachel should have left his toxicity alone. Just my opinion. I don’t think we don’t have flaws but jealousy, control, and obsession is tooooooo toxic for me
@oliverford5367
Жыл бұрын
@@starlaminde8436 Maybe you've been luckier than me. My experience is that it's not possible to find someone who cares about you but at the same time isn't jealous. If you have then great!
@starlaminde8436
Жыл бұрын
@@oliverford5367 being jealous isn’t toxic unless it’s extreme jealousy that also makes the person possessive and controlling. Everyone experiences jealousy even myself…it’s what I do about it that is healthy or unhealthy. My husband and I trust each other even after 25 years I am my own person and vice versa so we rarely find ourselves acting upon the jealousy issues. So yeah I’m lucky but we work at it also we continue therapy and go to marriage retreats once a year…to help keep guiding us in the right direction. I put my spouse in the same place I put myself …I love both of us. I don’t intentionally hurt or distrust those I love as Ross character did .
@ginao6810
Жыл бұрын
I thought it would be cool to give Phoebe’s character the “Bel Air” treatment; re-tell her story from a dramatic perspective like they did recent with the Fresh Prince of Bell Air”. How she became friends with these upper-middle-class yuppies (although Joey was more working class, maybe why she and he had a special relationship) and how she felt about it and their problems has really interested me the last year or so (after 25 years of viewership) Also, I suspect that Friends became looked down on as “low art” because it’s audience skews female, as opposed to shows like Seinfeld or The Office; both of which have a similar mix of flaws, dated attitudes, and great tv moments, but tend to skew more male. Just a thought. I’m sure I’ll get crucified for suggesting gender could play a role in anything, ever. But I stand by it.
@Stubagful
Жыл бұрын
You could be onto something there. My analytics on this video are heavily female whereas my channel average is usually heavily male. Maybe I could do a similar video on the office and see what happens
@ginao6810
Жыл бұрын
@@Stubagful ha that’s so interesting. And of course, something I wouldn’t be able to know. Always handy to have data to back up, what to me was a hunch. Interesting experiment
@maxannison17
Жыл бұрын
I’m on my 4th rewatch of this since the day it came out it’s such a good video I love it
@Stubagful
Жыл бұрын
I love that there are people who can listen to me talk about friends for 6 hours total :) thank you
@ChorltonandtheWheelies
11 ай бұрын
@Stubagful. I'm rewatching in the light of us losing Matthew Perry. 'Friends' was such an integral part of my generations life - I feel like I grew up along with them ( I'm only a couple of years younger than Matthew was). I'm from the UK but it translated for all the reasons you said in this excellent video. We all go through heartbrake and wins and losses along the way and I'm loving that the generation after mine has taken 'Friends' to its heart. Great video - great show. Rest in Peace Matthew - you gave a huge amount of joy to the 🌎 🕊
@uptown3636
Жыл бұрын
Amazing video. I do think that Friends evolved the will-they-won't-they sitcom trope, but Cheers was the real pioneer in this department a decade earlier with the Sam and Diane arc.
@Skye_Writer
Жыл бұрын
Oh, 100%. Sam and Diane were THE couple to watch, and the constant back and forth of their relationship was the origin of the phrase "must-see TV" as everyone was parked before their screens on Thursday nights waiting to see if these two would _finally_ get past their own flaws and get together/back together/make it work this time.
@RilianSharp
2 жыл бұрын
i was there and friends was always popular. i've watched it ever since 1994.
@scottmccarter861
Жыл бұрын
i totally agree that Ross' toxicity has been overplayed by modern audiences. Sure attitudes to certain things have changed but we forget that the point is the normal struggles of everyday life not a cultural essay.
@kyleellis1825
Жыл бұрын
And the main thing is, by seasons 9/10, Ross has overcome most of his toxicity through stuff like therapy.
@laindarko3591
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love finally seeing this show get the credit it deserves and a genuine critical analysis of it has been long overdue. I think it's more ripe for discussion than most people give it credit for and the first three quarters of the show still hold up on rewatch.
@pikachucansing
Жыл бұрын
I agree Ross is weird around people he doesn't understand, but didn't Carole cheat on him with her future wife? That's why he has that letting her go storyline I thought.
@allisoncastle
Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but I thought “The one with the sharks” was absolutely freaking HILARIOUS 😂 😂
@dontperceiveme3025
Жыл бұрын
People looove to hate popular things that appeal to mainstream audiences. Yes parts of it didn't age well. Yes it's not the most advanced humor. Yes it's ridiculously stupid at times. It's a product of it's time, but it's boring and entertaining and oddly comforting and I'm having a good time watching it.
@saml302
Жыл бұрын
big part of the Brad Pitt episode (agree, its mid) is that him and Jennifer Anniston were irl dating at the time. it was a stunt. also edit holy shit how did i not know Dizzy from Starship Troopers had an arc on Friends
@kamame92
Жыл бұрын
I will forever love friends! It has helped me through some hard times.
@Terribadguy.
Жыл бұрын
My mom would always put this on in the mornings for me and my sister while she was getting ready to take us to school. I'm definitely super nostalgic for it. I think it's a great show but people are taking it way to seriously. It's definitely not bad like a lot of younger people my age like to claim. It has a lot to do with over hype and these first time viewers go into it expecting their lives to change. I find a lot of comfort when this show is on. It's on my list of things to have on in the background next to Death Note. I've just see it so much I can have it on in my peripheral and passively enjoy it.
@alicecourtney5816
2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t like friends when I was a child in the 90’s. I liked it less when I was a teenager in the 00’s. In the 2010’s, as a newly-out trans woman, I found it utterly despicable. But now in 2022 I find it weirdly comforting for some reason, and I’m not sure why.
@LWAR
2 жыл бұрын
it's really interesting how you're portrail of the show(which renders the show actually interesting) is in ideal counter juxtaposition with the displayed clips where the video goes from fluctuating morbidness to canned laughter
@kiptelgat
Жыл бұрын
Good video, I remember experiencing friends everywhere as a kid, I even had merch for it before I watched the show.
@robertmarginean164
Жыл бұрын
You have to have Ross and Rachel together at the end. There was just no other way. You can't have that be your main setup in the beginning and not address it by the end. That would be like watching Lord of the Rings, and being invested in destroying the Ring, but then getting more invested in the Aragorn storyline. That's all nice and sweet, but the point of the whole thing is still for Frodo and Sam to destoy the Ring, that was always the story, and it had to happen, just like Ross and Rachel had to happen. Rachel gave up the job in Paris because she realized Ross was more important to her, despite what they went through and wanting to make it work, not because other people wanted it. Other people wanted it ever since season 3 and she didn't go through with it just because of that.That's the whole point of it. Love and passion are the only things you can't manufacture in a relationship, everything else you can work out through compromise and communication. Friends isn't Requiem for a Dream, it's not Game of Thrones and it's not Se7en, it's more akin to a classic story like The Lord of the Rings. You have setbacks and shocking moments, but in the end you have to end it in a satisfying way and provide that cathartic release
@MrTheevilmage
2 жыл бұрын
Stu with a one hour review you are surely spoiling us
@RestlessChildcz
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for validating my feelings towards the show and verbalizing some of the thoughts that plagued my mind anytime someone would complain about the show ❤
@lorenzomeloni6088
10 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree about Phoebe being one of the goat comedic characters in tv history.
@roryasencio9001
Жыл бұрын
Transphobia? Guess if anyone makes a joke about anything you are phobic against that thing. Geez 26:47
@lifestyleam-k3d
6 ай бұрын
Your video does a really good job of breaking down the 'Friends' TV show. It talks about why the show is funny and why so many people like it, but also looks at the deeper parts, like how the characters change over time and what the show says about the 90s. THE ONLY POINT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD is that it is okay that the humour is sometimes not good, because friends is not about being a comedy its about being a comfort tv show. It's cool to see how 'Friends' is still loved by so many because it talks about things that are always important, like friendship and life challenges, but also really captures the 90s vibe.
@kiptelgat
2 жыл бұрын
It's been forever since you releases an hour long slogger ,and it's a retrospective too. I can't wait to watch it on my freetime.
@jdevivre7512
Жыл бұрын
The overarching issue I've always had is: if this were real life, Ross might see these friends once in awhile, but he'd have another set of friends that he's met since high school who share his interests. He would not be hanging out continually with people who roll their eyes everytime he starts talking about his chosen field of study.
@phillinsogood
10 ай бұрын
So in conclusion Chandler and Monica are the best characters everyone else is insufferable
@AlexBaldwinFTW
2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this video, it's nice to re-examine these things that have always been a part of our lives.
@thebrideofghostface
Жыл бұрын
I like the joey and rachel arc, idc. They're very sweet together, maybe not endgame idk but very sweet. I kind of wish it had lasted a bit longer, because it does end up feeling a little purposeless, but idk why people hate it. It's one of those storylines that adds depth to Joey and maybe its just because I relate to Joey's whole like problem of falling for his friends thing/wanting to have that depth to a relationship and not having to wait for it to get chandler-monica-y but I like it. Again, I wish that Joey got more storylines like these that maybe led him to a relationship that would stick, as it seems friends never truly meant to put joey over the rachel and ross picture, but yk you take the few meaningful joey arcs you can get and the sweet rachel-joey moments. [Btw my dad thinks joey and rachel should have ended up together, so my family's opinion differs greatly from the general fandom opinion lol.]
@Buffy8Fan
Жыл бұрын
3:27-3:38 That the way all sitcoms are. Especially because jokes aren't funny unless someone is offended. That's the nature of how jokes work.
@JoelJoel321
Жыл бұрын
Joey doesn't cheat all the time. He cheated once by my count. And immediately confessed to his short-term girlfriend and broke up with her.
@harlequeenchannel
Жыл бұрын
What a fucking minute... Emily was hated? I thought we were all in universal agreement she deserved better
@zimboy9921
Жыл бұрын
I watched friends when I was in my early teens and always thought Monica and chandler were the main characters
@jordanrosenburg
17 күн бұрын
Whether they were on a break or not doesn't matter. What mattered was that Ross jumped into bed with someone less than 12 hours after breaking up, all because he thought Rachel was hooking up with Mark. And then he lied about it and went around town to everyone except for her. That's what hurt, that's what was the betrayal is.
@britanimations2002
11 ай бұрын
Did the one with the sharks happen before jumping the shark was a thing? Because the phrase really should reflect the storyline about wanking to sharks yknow?
@laurenc2976
Жыл бұрын
If you look at every Season and how they ended then its easy to see that they always revolved around Ross and Rachel every single time. The only one which didn't was season 2 as that was more focused on Monica's breakup with Richard but every other ending was a cliffhanger for them as a couple or just Rachel as a character which included revealing her pregnancy at the end of season 7 (we didn't know who the father was at this stage) Rachel and her relationship with Ross was always the central point of the show.
@herbivarsawus4359
2 жыл бұрын
And maybe some acknowledgement of the actor who played Gunther tragically dying recently? x I'll quit commenting before I start sounding like a hyper-critical whiner xx
@shahwiqarshahin2130
10 ай бұрын
Saw the video. Subbed. Going to binge watch his channel now.
@theshadowdirector
2 жыл бұрын
I mean you tested the waters for this when you admitted you enjoyed the early sessions of The Big Bangb Theory.
@PureEvil1138
10 ай бұрын
Don’t you just love holding things from 25 years ago to our new insane standards?
@padawansound6423
9 ай бұрын
Monica and Chandler aside, I genuinely think the healthiest relationship dynamic explored on the show is Ross and Rachel as platonic co-parents. It was a really interesting subversion of the traditional family that Ross so clearly craved and I thought they made an excellent, mutually supportive team. I truly wish they would have just left it at that.
@Stubagful
9 ай бұрын
Agree there. It was actually really refreshing to see that after having had endless "why Friends is toxic actually" articles shoved in my feeds for the last decade and a half
@Aroaceenby
11 ай бұрын
I wasn't angry at the Joey and Rachel story. I actually really liked it. I thought they should have been together. They were good for each other. The only part that upsets me is how Ross is acting about the situation. Dude, you've been broken up for years and she's made it pretty clear she doesn't want to be with you at this point.
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