My husband drove a bus full of those kids out. He came home heartbroken. As an ordained minister he felt so many different emotions.He felt that people should be free to worship as they wish but also sad at how blind these people were to the truth and the abuse
@TheOnlyElle.
3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, this whole case was about the sexual abuse of Children, not religion, or the "right to worship". Warren Jeffs has caused these people untold misery with his "edicts" and his paedophilia. So sad
@DorisTheChicken3013
2 жыл бұрын
My heart breaks for your husband. However, I am so thankful that he was one of people that was involved with all of this.
@Sirach144
2 жыл бұрын
What is an "ordained minister"? I don't see these in the Bible. This is an organized religion term
@clontstable1
2 жыл бұрын
@@Sirach144 ordained by what authority?
@meezy4094
3 жыл бұрын
So fascinating! I’ve been binge watching all weekend. I’ve been oddly obsessed with the FLDS for YEARS! I always love when former members create channels. There’s so few of you. It’s nice to hear you speak freely without the glimmer of media outlets’ spin.
@GrowingUpinPolygamy
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching! We are happy to be able to show people that it wasn't all bad out there. =)
@robinfoster2696
2 жыл бұрын
ty rozita swinton!! crazy lady saves kids from incest!!
@vanneway4892
3 жыл бұрын
I have been following for a few weeks and I am so impressed with both of you. Please continue your stories!
@GrowingUpinPolygamy
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Vanne! Thank you so much. We will definitely continue to share. We're happy to hear you're enjoying it.
@tallgirlhappyme
3 жыл бұрын
🔴Just listening to this, I have more questions. (1) Melissa, being LDS, how did your parents feel about you dating and marrying a former FLDS guy? I mean, Sam IS fabulous, but did your parents have concerns? (2) How do your parents feel NOW about you and Sam no longer being active LDS members? (3) Sam, do you feel at all betrayed by your parents or the FLDS church? Especially after what Warren Jeffs did to go to prison? If so, how do you handle it? Also,would love to see more of your siblings interviewed! That was really interesting. ❤
@GrowingUpinPolygamy
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching! (Melissa Answering) 1) We are going to do another video about our love story and will include this in there, so stay tuned. =) 2) It was hard for my Mom, because she is still active LDS, but she has been kind, loving and supportive of us. My Dad is an atheist, so it was very easy on him. 3) (Sam Answering) I don't really feel betrayed, because I understand the emotions that are behind their beliefs. I don't believe that my parents had any ill intent and were teaching me what they believe to be the truth, so I respect them for that. We agree with you and would love to have more of my siblings on in the future! =)
@sarahissersohn5495
2 жыл бұрын
@@GrowingUpinPolygamy follow up question, please: was your dad already an atheist, when he married your mom, or did that not happen til later? That is a fascinating idea to me- I just assumed that bc Mormons seem really dedicated to the active practice of their beliefs, in day-to-day Iife, that they wouldn’t want to marry anyone who didn’t share that same faith, so I appreciate the opportunity to learn!
@monicamooring8362
3 жыл бұрын
I am from San Angelo and remember the frenzy the day of the raid. My heart broke for the FLDS community. Kids and mothers crying and then the over crowded holding facilities. It was a sad time for sure.
@sarahb5464
3 жыл бұрын
As someone who previously worked in adoption court, it is always tragic when families are separated, especially when the parents do not understand the abuse they are inflicting, or when another person/family member/leader is dictating the abuse. However, the sadness surrounding the separation cannot undermine the seriousness of any kind of child abuse, especially child marriage and sexual abuse. I understand Sam did not have personal knowledge at the time, did not experience abuse himself, and is unwilling to sensationalize the raid or FLDS, and I respect that. However, questioning whether the abuse occurred is another matter entirely. I think I understand the fine line you were attempting to walk in this video, but it missed the mark when you conflated a lack of firsthand knowledge with a general lack of evidence.
@bethwondrely4371
3 жыл бұрын
I am so glad you are back in the world that God gave us all and that you are now safe. May God bless you always. Remember: God loved you enough to save you.
@janesmith9024
3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting Thank you. It is rarely wise for authorities to take so many children away from parents, even if the mothers are young. However the raid did involve getting into the vault in the temple and to the recordings of Jeffs of himself with his wives (tapes available on line) and given the age of some of them that was worth exposing. Several of the young girls on the raid who were expecting children were also under age.
@essohayee
Жыл бұрын
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@hollybrooks2620
3 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you so much for sharing your experience!
@GrowingUpinPolygamy
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching!
@cecectconnecticut344
3 жыл бұрын
All of your videos are so interesting. Thank you for sharing your life stories.
@GrowingUpinPolygamy
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching! =)
@staciangelly
3 жыл бұрын
For the most part, i like how you present a neutral position on FDLS in your videos. Nothing is sensationalized. I think you missed the mark here. By downplaying the abuse that was happening it makes you seem accepting of it. You're right that the original caller was not a 16 year old girl. However, the claims she made about child sexual abuse were found to be true. You made it sound like she was a liar. She was not. Her actions saved many children from further abuse.
@irontribeissues9104
3 жыл бұрын
Agree. A LOT was going on and is going on. Take a stand, people. Otherwise, we know where you stand. Sorry but that IS the deal. As an Indigenous person, I have a bright line in relation to how people like to negotiate their language around institutional dirt that has to be dealt with. Nothing new, nothing unique. But is not a good look.
@Ryanmel416
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I found this video pretty problematic. I also appreciate their neutral position on this subject for most things, but whether the media sensationalized the stories or not, children were being abused and young girls were being forced into marriages with older men. Those are facts that shouldn't be glossed over and made to seem like not a big deal.
@tjbrat44
3 жыл бұрын
I sincerely don't think Sam was "glossing over" anything. He comes from the Warren Jeff's crew and still has family members that are still members of the FLDS group....he is trying to answer questions that he KNOWS the answers to, and I hear him say in his other videos the info he does know, and the info he does not know is not presented.....he very admirably says he doesn't know
@claudiakleid5637
3 жыл бұрын
I did not feel they downplayed the allegations.
@xrx9786
3 жыл бұрын
The woman that made that call was Rosita Swinton and she was found in Colorado Springs. She was never a member of the FLDS and it was a Bogus call.
@azureeyes1955
3 жыл бұрын
I had family members there. It was terrible, and heartbreaking. The Texas government is responsible for so much trauma to innocent children. The age limit for keeping their children wasn't 18 months. It was 12 months. So a 13 month old baby, still nursing, would have been (quite literally) ripped from his mother's arms. Whatever the allegations were, nothing justifies the abuse perpetrated by law enforcement on those babies. And if they thought there was truth to it, which I'm not going to argue, they should have investigated and dealt with the issues as they found them. The way they went about it was very horrifying, and un-American.
@paigecrosby4516
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your videos and wish I was friends with you in real life!! This is so fascinating
@GrowingUpinPolygamy
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! We may not get to meet in real life, but you are now our KZitem Family!!!
@clontstable1
2 жыл бұрын
I am not pro-FLDS by any stretch, but what bothered me was seeing a bus labeled First Baptist Church transporting the women & children out of the compound. Baptists, Born Again “Christians,” and their ilk have forever been the self appointed judges of what is supposed to be Christian and what is not.
@tammy5590
8 ай бұрын
Only the really cute ones. I literally laughed out loud. TY Sam for that chuckle. Sam what do you think some of the people would have done if one of the fathers that Jeffs stood up in the service and told them to leave would have done if the fathers or just one father bucked against him and said NO I am not leaving my family and giving them to you. Do you think that may have changed some of the doctorine or the people. If anyone would have challenged him.
@kbf6434
2 жыл бұрын
I was one of the attorneys who represented the mothers. The trauma caused to those children & my clients haunts me. None of my clients had married under age & none of their children were married under age either. CPS got greedy & cared more about the money they would receive for each child adopted instead of focusing on the teenage girls who had been abused or who could have been abused.
@paitesmith9133
2 жыл бұрын
What motive could CPS possibly have for fabricating all that abuse? They literally found underage girls very pregnant and further evidence of teenagers w newborns. They didn’t just make those findings up. The state of Texas had no motive but in fact a heavy responsibility to get this situation right and under control. The law is the law and clearly there was overwhelming evidence that statutory rape was taking place. Not only were these underage marriages occurring with regularity, but Warren Jeffs placed them and perpetuated the trafficking of girls back and forth to the Bountiful compound in Canada, even marrying (with photographic evidence) a twelve year old himself. Let’s not bother discussing the perverse and horrific activities that took place inside that YFZ temple with underage girls…. crimes that were not only committed against these teenagers, but were recorded. There was plenty of evidence so while nobody wants to separate a child from their mother… where were the mothers of the underage pregnant brides? Who was watching out for them??? I’ll tell you who: CPS. Not their leaders… not their parents… the state of Texas… and they should be applauded for taking action while the states of Utah and Arizona did NOTHING for years.
@jazwhoaskedforthis
2 жыл бұрын
It’s hard to say I approve of how law enforcement handles anything because I think they lack training, vetting, education, and just overal ACAB. But, a community that enabled and protected abusers and groomed children for further abuse cannot be weighed as less traumatic than breaking up that community and stopping the cycle hopefully. The victims themselves reaching out and trying to expose what happened and escape is all I need to know that intervention was the better thing to do, even if it could have been done better.
@tbone9803
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who says ACAB had the mind of a 12 year old. You try to sound smart but you aren't
@zhuqingloh1729
3 жыл бұрын
Is there a sort of caste system in the FLDS ? Like for example the leaders and their families on top etc.? And as a result of that, were people treated differently, especially the families of those who left ?
@war5561
3 жыл бұрын
I lived in Utah briefly, at one of those boarding schools, haha I’m bad kid😂😂 How does the LDS members accept you as a former FLDS member? I know there was tension there from my time in Utah.
@GrowingUpinPolygamy
3 жыл бұрын
I know that there was tension between some of the members but I was received very well from all members of the LDS that I met.
@robinfoster2696
2 жыл бұрын
i went to bad girl boarding school in s. utah, too. still not religious. forced to do as they did.
@shannonduran6285
2 жыл бұрын
I was one of the cps workers and first people in
@GrowingUpinPolygamy
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, if you would ever be willing to speak with us or be interviewed please reach out to us at growingupinpolygamy@gmail.com. We would love to hear your side of the story and share it!
@sarahissersohn5495
2 жыл бұрын
Please consider being interviewed- they are super respectful and sensitive.
@shannonduran6285
2 жыл бұрын
I have emailed you
@Lemonade_Stand_
3 жыл бұрын
I live in B.C. and i remember seeing on the news when they were carting kids back and forth over the border. Until then i had no idea we had that going on here. I have seen the occasional family downtown Vancouver dressed like that coming from the train station (guessing going to or from the airport). I assumed they were just amish people but looking back im guessing they were probably flds.
@slamminsam6xoxo
3 жыл бұрын
These people are acting like bad things didn’t happen when they did so I don’t like that. Don’t protect sex offenders.
@pansprayers
2 жыл бұрын
Make sure your case is airtight before you go in on a false tip. This whole thing was bungled by the government.
@WolfRoss
2 жыл бұрын
They should not have done that to those children. I understand Texas having to enforce its state laws. But you don't abuse children in the process.
@Tenamf
3 жыл бұрын
I came across these videos & have been watching How many of your siblings have left /do you see them ?
@GrowingUpinPolygamy
3 жыл бұрын
There are 15 of us that have left. We are spread over the country so we don't get to see all of them as often as we would like, but we all do stay in touch.
@amycampbell9453
3 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel. Do you still talk your father and mother?
@serobinson1
3 жыл бұрын
If his video about who is still in the religion he answers all that in detail
@jillygirl2024
3 жыл бұрын
He mentioned in another video that he speaks to them but not often
@DorisTheChicken3013
2 жыл бұрын
Throughout the whole of “Christianity” the the shared history of persecution is definitely a “thing”.
@addytriplett6067
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh I live in Eldorado Texas which is less than a mile way for this ranch
@patriciarouse16
Жыл бұрын
Undocumented children, underage mother's and complaints of underage abuse ....any and all and the pattern of such all obligate any State to establish identity of masses of children. The psudeo religious porn stylings aside US Student Rights violated " were cause enough". The State of Utah ,State of Colorado and Canada fostering pedofile abuse on children isolated to do so are culpable. A human being is not a trade or traffick item.
@andersonsilver6978
3 жыл бұрын
Can you react to the video "inside bountiful"?
@GrowingUpinPolygamy
3 жыл бұрын
We will add that to the list!
@MichaelMcbratney
2 жыл бұрын
For the life of me I can't figure out, why people leave one cult and go and join another????
@pansprayers
2 жыл бұрын
Because the human brain seeks patterns that it recognises. Rather than being glib, go look at the plethora of studies and information out there on the matter.
@abou8963
6 ай бұрын
Because people love God and do not want to shame him. They are trying their best.
@marthamurphy7940
Жыл бұрын
So, you, Sam, were training for or in the priesthood? So what did you learn that other people didn't learn? Did men learn things that women weren't allowed to know?
@slampire100
2 жыл бұрын
I’m desperate ly trying to join the flds can anyone help
@irontribeissues9104
3 жыл бұрын
Ah, the ephebophile false prophet? Yes. Interested to hear your take on it. PS - no fan of the guvmint here, either. Rather difficult to read your very, very light-touch ironies. Oddly, the rhetoric you are describing from the TX locals sounds nearly identical in content and angle to that of the Scientologists. We humans need to inspect ourselves viz our conduct of mental processes and understanding within our faith practices. I practice my traditional Indigenous life way, and we too endure purposeful misunderstandings, pillory and stigma.
@carlasuannelockett1694
3 жыл бұрын
Guvmint?
@yesthatsme8963
3 жыл бұрын
For them *growing up in polygamy* they sure don't know a thing about it
@pansprayers
2 жыл бұрын
You think that cult leaders share all the information with the low man on the totem pole? That's amusing.
@yesthatsme8963
2 жыл бұрын
Ok bruh bruh
@beadedguitar
2 жыл бұрын
Adds dimention by asking and answering casually questions viewers may have.
@yesthatsme8963
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a personal problem that u weren't called
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