Wahoo Kickr wheel-on trainer. I like the new Zwift though - no more changing wheels from my outdoor tire to indoor tire.
@billkallas1762
11 ай бұрын
25 year old Elite Fluid trainer. If the fluid resistance unit ever goes south, I have a wind resistance device that was made for this trainer. (Of course, I would have to wear ear plugs to use it).......I make things last.
@teleotto
11 ай бұрын
Kickr V5(50% off), Climb and a dedicated Caad 10
@blueninjasix
11 ай бұрын
I've just ordered the upgrade package of cog and clickers - special introductory price - it will save mechanical wear on my existing drivetrain - and I hope it will also effectively feel like an upgrade from mechanical to Di2
@kevinbarkema1666
11 ай бұрын
I plan on getting a trainer soon, and was debating between two bikes (11 and 12) and now I will be able to use either. All I need now is a Black Friday special and I will be all over this.
@joriszsz95
10 ай бұрын
Just buy one bike pls. Consuming less is always better
@DavidC-rt3or
11 ай бұрын
Seems like a nice feature would be to be able to have cassette profiles, such that instead of the default 24, map it to the cassette you normally use (or want to simulate).
@tihohohoho
11 ай бұрын
Agree. Should be possible with an update.
@starlitshadows
11 ай бұрын
Yeah I hope they come out with that in the future. Altering gear ratios to match your bike or even experiment with others would be great.
@davidm3997
11 ай бұрын
You’d be able to do that anyway by changing the difficulty in the settings. But yeah if they tidied it up and had different cassettes options as opposed to a difficulty slider bar, that would be awesome
@Real28
11 ай бұрын
That's a detractor for me, as I want to train to get better on my bike, not suddenly gain a different set of gear ratios. But I also am still holding off on a trainer, so maybe they'll add this soon.
@richiejames928
11 ай бұрын
This is an absolute game changer. bravo zwift.
@gcntech
11 ай бұрын
Will you be getting one Richie?
@richiejames928
11 ай бұрын
@@gcntech nahhh
@philipwhiuk
11 ай бұрын
The conversion for my bike to a Wahoo was a total pain in the neck with spacers. If this eliminates that it is great!
@teknonmy7210
11 ай бұрын
oh wow, if it's a technically solid trainer in other aspects (power readouts, resistance, freewheel behaviour), it will eclipse every other trainer. I was expecting to see it quoted for a grand, 599 is very reasonable.
@Heliosmaster
11 ай бұрын
it's the same trainer as before, the zwift hub. the only difference is the cassette part afaik. It's lower performing than the trainer that retail a grand, but to be honest going from 2% accuracy to 1% for double the money is far from worth it. All in all this is likely the best bang for your buck if you look for a trainer.
@nickdorey940
11 ай бұрын
And it can only be used with Zwift, I think, not other apps.
@teknonmy7210
11 ай бұрын
not true, it's got ANT+ FE-C @@nickdorey940
@robcollinson9508
11 ай бұрын
I’m not so sure. This feels like a very niche benefit to me. I doubt there are many out there putting multiple bikes needing different cassettes. I’d certainly have no use for it.
@MDustinKim
11 ай бұрын
Wow that is amazing. Most of all, I wonder what the noise levels are compared to the KICKR or some other trainer. While my KICKR 5th gen makes minimal amount of noise, it still has that clanking sound when shifting, and with the cassettes going with the chains as well. I live in a high rise apartment and floor to floor noise complaints are a big issue. SUPERNICE!
@PaceGalore
11 ай бұрын
Same here and my kickr actually starts vibrating pretty badly when riding in higher gears. I can basically only ride in ERG-mode in a very low gear indoors. Super annoying.
@chrisridesbicycles
11 ай бұрын
Retro Conor made my day. He needs a bunch of baguettes to deliver in that basket.
@stenkendaru2179
11 ай бұрын
Is it still possible to mount a cassette to the new Zwift Hub One?
@starlitshadows
11 ай бұрын
Yes its interchangeable. It just replaces the cassette and freehub body. You can switch them out
@amosb1452
11 ай бұрын
Magic wizardry indeed!
@billkallas1762
11 ай бұрын
What about 6 and 7 speed with a steel bike? 126mm Steel bikes easily can fit a 130mm wheel.
@kristapsjoe8105
8 ай бұрын
Did you find out if 6 speed 126mm bikes fit on hub one?
@Gmh6477
11 ай бұрын
Does it still come with a years zwift subscription ?
@andreasolsson2336
11 ай бұрын
yes
@Frank-mn4hx
11 ай бұрын
That's impressive. I can even fit my trekking bike in there? My bike has 9 speed cassette on the back. What about an bike with a chain tensioner on the front? My second bike has an chain tensioner near the front sprocket.
@livcrash
7 ай бұрын
Hi thanks for this video. I'm completely new to bike world and i'd like to use my old mountain bike with zwift hub one. It has 7 cogs on the back. Can you tell me if it fits with Hub One or if it requires minimum 8 cogs on the back? Thank you!
@123marijn321
11 ай бұрын
Such a shame EKAR doesnt work :(
@obidavekenobe
11 ай бұрын
I thought of the idea of virtual shifting back in 2018 in the Zwift forums… 😮
@obidavekenobe
11 ай бұрын
Why does this post keep getting removed? Just saying?
@obidavekenobe
11 ай бұрын
😢
@DigitalMan6627
11 ай бұрын
Half price Kickr V5,Apple TV to 42”,massive upgrade from my elite Qubo wheel on Don’t need anything else IMHO
@cozbhoy
8 ай бұрын
Has anyone encountered issues with removing the QR adapter on the new Zwift hub one? This adapter comes factory installed on the unit and by god, it is impossible to remove it to install the through axel. A quick Google search reveals that is a pretty common problem and more so that Zwift are aware of it, yet still sending out units. I’m awaiting the delivery of a new one however, I’m not convinced that this issue will be fixed. Thought this would be of interest to the channel and require some further investigating.
@hpk4917
11 ай бұрын
Great Video. I wish my Trackbike would fit . . .
@andrewmcalister3462
11 ай бұрын
Ha! Virtual gearing on your track bike.
@AtomGTT
11 ай бұрын
Is it any quieter?
@leonardbreetzke1135
11 ай бұрын
Will this hub work on other trainers?
@florianfischer5706
11 ай бұрын
What about Campagnolo?
@leissp1
11 ай бұрын
Weird concept IMO add a magic button to shift your bike instead of using your bike as it was built. I suppose you could used to it but sort of a solution looking for a problem. The price is attractive however.
@cooldoydoy
11 ай бұрын
This would be helpful for people who train on multiple bikes without having to swap cassettes. Reduced noise and chain wear are also a benefit.
@jannikreimann1452
11 ай бұрын
When i order the hub one can i still decide to jist put a normal Cassette on it later? Or is only the old hub also compatible with the new cog
@Cid0484
11 ай бұрын
It is the same smart trainer as the Zwift Hub with a cassette. You simply have the option to order the one cog instead of a pre-installed cassette of your choice
@jannikreimann1452
11 ай бұрын
@@Cid0484thanks Mate
@ebikescrapper3925
11 ай бұрын
How much is the replacement cog?
@Chris-pt6hh
11 ай бұрын
$60
@shimona500
11 ай бұрын
@@Chris-pt6hh Jeez. An 11sp 105 cassette is 30-40
@andreasolsson2336
11 ай бұрын
lama changed the 14t only from a normal cassette. no need to discard the whole thing.
@kaupo80
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, you can fit any bike without any adjustment at all. Please show me how to put (with no adjustment at all) a 8-speed quick release road bike with 135 mm spacing to a trainer, which was just used with a BOOST through axle frame.
@williamm3542
11 ай бұрын
FYI...........the gearing is 33T-44 to 55t-10
@rafacanical
11 ай бұрын
Could this work with single speed bicycles?
@festerofest4374
11 ай бұрын
The video mentions it requires a rear derailleur bicycle.
@andreasolsson2336
11 ай бұрын
it requires a chain tensioning device, not necessarily a derailleur
@IlanEyman
11 ай бұрын
isn't the rear dropouts of a singlespeed bike a chain tensioning device?@@andreasolsson2336
@Deceter
11 ай бұрын
I can't wait to not be able to buy this in Australia 🇦🇺
@ArbaritorCycling
11 ай бұрын
Interesante idea y propuesta. No me convence nada la ergonomía de los botones🥵 pero bueno, ya inventarán algo que lo mejore.
@davidkendall4588
11 ай бұрын
Is it weird that I'd rather be out riding in sub-freezing weather than riding inside on a trainer? It's the fact that the trainer doesn't move under me the same way that a real bike does. Can't stand it. Anyone have experience with rollers? Do they address this issue?
@tattooedyogi
11 ай бұрын
I wonder if this would work on other indoor trainers. seems like the 'gears' are in the new 'cassette'. since you can put this on the older Zwift hub i don't see why you couldn't mount it on a Tacx or Wahoo trainer.
@ttq711
11 ай бұрын
You can mount it, but you’ll need a Zwift hub to control virtual shifting
@ConquerorDash
11 ай бұрын
The cassette is just a piece of metal and plastic for holding the chain. The virtual shifting happens completely inside the Zwift hub and is more a less a software feature. Which is why the hub itself didn't change. On a bike trainer different gears are basically just different amounts of resistance. It's actually surprising it took this long till someone had this idea.
@chm2
11 ай бұрын
The concept feels a little weird to me. We have Zwift that virtually adjusts resistances on gradients. Now you have a button to simulate virtual gears just so you can counteract that virtual resistance...
@leomarchio98
11 ай бұрын
I think the point is to allow you to find the right cadence on those gradients. Obviously not relevant when training in Erg mode, but if I’m racing I for sure wouldn’t want to have a single gear for flats and Alpe du Zwift
@xandershawvlog
11 ай бұрын
Would you ride Zwift on a fixie? I know people who do but I use most of my cassette normally stay in the big ring though but have TD around 75%
@leomarchio98
11 ай бұрын
@@xandershawvlog no, not with a normal trainer. But this new Zwift Hub to ensure wide and quick compatibility is effectively turning all bikes into fixies. And in this case the only way to maintain control over cadence is to simulate the gears.
@xandershawvlog
11 ай бұрын
@@leomarchio98 yeah that’s the point of any gears. I was asking the original poster. This just puts the gearing in the hub rather than the derailleurs. If it’s only compatible with Zwift due to the gear changes it could be a deal breaker if Mywhoosh/IndieVelo move on the market.
@supermitendo9654
11 ай бұрын
This is just a 6 minutes of ad. Nothing about the performance of the trainer itself.
@savagepro9060
11 ай бұрын
Don't you just love hearing Brits say: "Faff"?
@enduromite
7 ай бұрын
You lost me at "wizardry". I guess I want some who can explain the difference.
@billkallas1762
11 ай бұрын
$600 USD......Ouch.
@Crafftyyy
11 ай бұрын
For the tech we’re lucky it isn’t $1200 or more.
@godfreymillstone7399
11 ай бұрын
Since there are no stupid questions. Only stupid people who ask them…can this be setup in a not temperature controlled environment with no issues? Say 0-34 degrees?
@ynie1
11 ай бұрын
According to the Zwift product page, its operating temps are -10C to 25C
@godfreymillstone7399
11 ай бұрын
Thanks. Gtk.
@jkausel2008
11 ай бұрын
🤑🤑🤑🤑
@prostadadaj
11 ай бұрын
Weird shifting. Too far from the real world experience
@holdonL
11 ай бұрын
very nice.it's a lame zwift left russia...
@holdonL
11 ай бұрын
@@irfuelyeah, all athletes from here are very well aware of it, but still... be sure to say the same when your country do smth lame
@dh7314
11 ай бұрын
Blame Putin, not Zwift. Zwift are subject to economic sanctions
@savagepro9060
11 ай бұрын
@@irfuel what about Israel, they should stop stealing land
@Chris-pt6hh
11 ай бұрын
Smart. I have two bikes that would require two very different cassettes, so one has been permanently on my Zwift Hub, this is exactly what I want. Probably saving Zwift some money too by doing away with so many variants.
@gcntech
11 ай бұрын
Sounds like the hub is the tool for you 🙌 It's going to be a game changer for those that want to train on different bikes!
@lamboboySV
11 ай бұрын
Would be extra nice if you could program your di2 shifters to function as the Zwift shifter
@mr.techie8565
11 ай бұрын
I was just about to type this...although I don't have Di2 myself
@patricklim1384
7 ай бұрын
NOW THAT - would be AWESOME......I'm willing to bet that ZWIFT is considering this and discussing with SHimano.....
@justus1995
11 ай бұрын
I was about to be super pissed as I just ordered my Hub three weeks ago. Thank god it’s available as an upgrade
@byggerEttSlott
11 ай бұрын
I literarily ordered my Zwift Hub one day before this was announced!
@philippscholz6341
11 ай бұрын
But you have to pay 60€ for the upgrade… Right?
@michaelharries4143
11 ай бұрын
Excellent news for us Sram XDR 12 speed users! I’ll probably make the jump into indoor training now!
@gcntech
11 ай бұрын
Awesome! It's a jump you won't regret 🙌
@Danyi11
11 ай бұрын
I'm not sure it's compatible 😏
@GaryBleck
11 ай бұрын
Does it require the two different adaptors for through axel vs quick release?
@MarshallStrider
11 ай бұрын
It does and they are included
@EddInLancs01
11 ай бұрын
Ooh! I cod fit my Cube emtb on there & take the KOM up Alp du Zwift...
@sim999
11 ай бұрын
What about electronic shifting (Di2, AXS), would be nice that you can shift gears with your shifters, you just need to integrate and route to zwift shifting while connected to hub.
@Max-xx6lu
11 ай бұрын
I was About to buy the old zwift hub tomorrow and now i can get the new one for the same Price, I Love it
@diegomora9202
11 ай бұрын
Question is…will El Alto fit????
@mjf1975
11 ай бұрын
Great concept but muscle memory is going to cause some rear derailleur issues. There’ll be some people who will automatically try to change gears using their shifters - what happens if they do?
@ynie1
11 ай бұрын
Based on the way the guide is setup, you'll probably just hear some clicking of the rear derailleur as it tries to unsuccessfully shift.
@mjf1975
11 ай бұрын
@@ynie1 Maybe. I'd still want to see some proper stress testing
@tattooedyogi
11 ай бұрын
If you're running Electronic gears you could just unplug the batteries then it won't shift!
@mjf1975
11 ай бұрын
@@tattooedyogi Etap yes, a bit more tricky with di2
@patrickscott1175
11 ай бұрын
Just unplug the di2 cable from the derailleur. Easy job and would prevent it from moving.
@pmbdk
11 ай бұрын
Lol! When i got my Zwift Hub the first thing I wondered about was why I needed to shift gears on my bike; they could just do it virtually…
@paunalexandru
11 ай бұрын
Can it be used with a fixie? I know you've mentioned a derailler but i don't have one :( .
@terrieneric3599
7 ай бұрын
We need the cog for other wahoo kicker
@grege8420
11 ай бұрын
Hello GCN! Hello bikers! Just got mine 2 days ago to fit with my Giant Contend Shimano 105! Question: it seems the alignment with my bigger chainring is not ideal (it seems to be a bit too much on the right compared to the cog...) and so the cog/chain makes some light noise... The chain does not seem to touch the plastic however. I do not have the issue when the chain is on the smaller chain ring where it drives perfectly. Do you know if it matters as the transmission is said to be simulated through the 24 virtual speeds and the Zwift Click whatever the bike you are using? Thanks for enlightening me as it is my very first indoor setup! :)
@MJQuintana
11 ай бұрын
I dare you to fit all sorts of recumbent bike into the Zwift hub 😁
@p0sitiv467
11 ай бұрын
It's a pity that this is a sponsored presentation, not a real review.
@Bungle2010
10 ай бұрын
GCN don't do, and have never done, reviews.
@blablablubbiblubb
11 ай бұрын
Harriet ❤
@Ferrybobbins
11 ай бұрын
Would love a turbo trainer for a Brompton.
@MrJhockley
11 ай бұрын
This must also have the new super highspeed refresh of 10hz that Wahoo has got. Maybe?
@gordon7904
11 ай бұрын
yes it has with hub firmware update released already.
@ebikescrapper3925
11 ай бұрын
Will it work with Shimano Cues chain?
@ShakeNBakeUK
11 ай бұрын
how do gear changes feel? how does sprinting feel? missing some important info here!
@6ft8incyclist
11 ай бұрын
I have a dedicated bike on my trainer if I switch to a 1 by front chain ring and use the ZWIFT single gear in the rear. Can I get rid of my rear derailleur, and chain and replace it with a belt it would really simplify everything and keep maintenance to a minimum.
@paulwhateley7850
11 ай бұрын
Wattbike is a lot easier 😉
@razorree
11 ай бұрын
so you are LOCKED to laggy Zwift app only ?
@PaulioNZ
11 ай бұрын
How long before the other trainer manufacturers bring out their 'cogs'... or have Zwift got a patent for this design ??
@TheLevel7th
7 ай бұрын
Can‘t recommend. My Zwift hub one has Problems to hold a consistent wattage while ERG engaged. If I Pedal cadences higher than 80 RPM the resistance drops to 20-30 Watts. But sometimes if I‘m in a Workout and I should Pedal like 100 RPM, the resistance gets incredible high. Done several spindowns, used different devices, checked if all Updates where done, reinstalled the apps. And the Customer Support is not very helpful.
@velogoo
11 ай бұрын
Very good explainer, I think I'll be getting one of these. How come the gear number did not show up on the Zwift screen when trying the different bikes?
@starlitshadows
11 ай бұрын
Seems like the click might be awkward to position on the hoods where I'd want it. Regardless, I love this idea and I may invest in one especially at that price.
@felixkrell890
11 ай бұрын
admittedly I am not the target group here, but I'd love to have one of these for my pinion bike sometime in the future^^
@tonys1587
11 ай бұрын
Will a narrow bike (120mm-wide) fit with an adapter?
@martialman.4563
6 ай бұрын
Will 145mm tandem with quick release skewers work?
@eperez3962
7 ай бұрын
This product is garbage! They preinstall adapters that cant be removed! Waste of time and money
@massimofi
11 ай бұрын
Get Harriet a bike fit.
@mrchainsaw2137
11 ай бұрын
Nah, no thanks. I think it’s a step back unless you have multiple vastly different bikes. So not for me
@andyfairchild2383
11 ай бұрын
What.. no Brompton? I’m out! Yours, disgusted of Bristol 😉
@sonygoup
11 ай бұрын
That price got me taken back
@abirihabibi
8 ай бұрын
Anyone knows if it works with Rouvy ?
@inneryard
11 ай бұрын
nice. is it Campagnolo EKAR compatible?
@griffithd05
11 ай бұрын
Does it work with SRAM flat chains?
@andreasolsson2336
11 ай бұрын
yes
@jrm1946
11 ай бұрын
My gravel bike's got a Formula CX-22 rear disc hub with quick release axle, length 145 mm and O.LD of 135 mm so, according to Zwift specs (and most wheel off trainers), my bike isn't compatible. Anyone out there had the same issue and found a solution (other than buying a new bike)?
@smithpauld1501
11 ай бұрын
OK, how about a beater frame from off of the junk pile? Add a cheap bottom bracket and fixie/1by chainset and you’ve got a Zwift setup. The headset could be seized and Click/Play steering would still work. It’s easy to hack a fork stand, so you wouldn’t even need a wheel. Well, yes, a saddle would be nice. With an iPad or Apple TV, this is good.
@Patrick94GSR
11 ай бұрын
Hahaha nice jab at MTB riders! 😂😂❤
@DnBSkunk
11 ай бұрын
Shame it doesn’t work with single speed bikes. I’d just have kept my fixed gear bike on something like this
@ebikescrapper3925
11 ай бұрын
I wonder if it would with a chain tensioner.
@andreasolsson2336
11 ай бұрын
think it does, with a chain tensioning device
@DnBSkunk
11 ай бұрын
@@andreasolsson2336 wouldn’t the chain like be really wonky? It’s something I’ll keep an eye on for sure. Would make me consider ditching my Kickr v4
@theantichrome9842
11 ай бұрын
Boooo. Single Speeds and track bikes need not apply. Nor the internal geared bikes. Bummer.
@endurodadclint5377
5 ай бұрын
Just purchased the kickr core with hub. Fantastic. Easy to use and switch bikes. 12 speed tt, 9 speed it doesn’t matter. The whole family is riding indoors now
@yoonseokroh1308
11 ай бұрын
Interesting!
@gcntech
11 ай бұрын
Will you be picking one up? 👀
@MattXL..vanilla_gurilla
11 ай бұрын
Could you just remove derailleur adjust chain length and run setup as SS?! You could even save money by switching to a 9 or speed chain correct?
@marcuswong1797
11 ай бұрын
Technically you should be able to use Ekar 13speed. Cant you just adjust on the settings that its a simple 12spd 1x?
@SeVaGL
11 ай бұрын
You invented ERG mode once again! Congrats. It might be nice to use for structured workout, but definitely not for racing
@nateisright
10 ай бұрын
You know what you never see? A Pinarello Lungavita. The Kona made me think about that.
@andyw8009
10 ай бұрын
I am thinking about using this for my e-bike (with battery out obviously) and wondering if I would have any issues fitting it?
@soundsnags2001
11 ай бұрын
Ordered this today. Was wishing there was a package to upgrade my controllers!
@Bartolini87
11 ай бұрын
Mine had problems out of the box weird noises and 10k bike sitting crooked 2 degrees to the right, returned it
@marksmithWLC
11 ай бұрын
Complete game changer - literally and figuratively (see what I did there?)
@ebikescrapper3925
11 ай бұрын
Instead of the price is right, it's the bike is right.
@dianefeldman4458
11 ай бұрын
Sounds like a great system. Does it only work with the Zwift app?
@mod-mns
11 ай бұрын
do I have to call all my neighbors when I buy it😂😂?? to let them try their bikes
@GhostTrainPhoto
11 ай бұрын
Just bought this...looking forward to trying it out
@andrewhayes1339
11 ай бұрын
Love it, but like the original, will it come to Australia or do we miss out again ?
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