Thank you Barry. Thank you for taking the time to pass on the wisdom
@ScoutCrafter
11 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video! Barry is such a fantastic teacher who can take complicated material and break it down to no nonsense understandable enjoyment. It takes years of being good enough that you don't have to prove yourself to achieve this level of teaching. Thanks for posting this!
@dizzy4303
7 жыл бұрын
After seeing that stone assortment, I kinda want to see whats in the rest of those drawers.
@ProjectsInMetal
12 жыл бұрын
I completely agree Michael! I'm not sure if Barry (my friend in the video who owns the stones) has seen your reply. I didn't even realize you'd replied and it was over a year ago. I'll make sure and point it out to him. It'll make him smile knowing that others appreciate his stones.
@matman7546
9 жыл бұрын
Silicon carbide has a knoop harness of approximately 2400. Tungsten carbide is approximately 2000. The stones wear away faster due to the fact that silicon carbide is also very brittle.
@44mod
3 жыл бұрын
That was a very beneficial video for me. I have been trying to find out what stones I need to work in my shop. I am 56 years old and I found out a long time ago that you have to ears for listing and one mouth. In other words do twice as much listing and half as much talking. I can tell by listing that you well skilled and that you just gave me a lot of information that can help me many years to come. I want to thank you for your time to make the video. God Bless and have a great day.
@daw162
12 жыл бұрын
Arkansas isn't mined out. the only shortage of any type is the translucent stones, and that seems more like an issue of mining rights (norton still cuts new translucent stones, and the small ones don't cost much. Some of the bigger ones do, but generally only if they're thicker than half an inch). The hard and soft arkansas stones that aren't translucent aren't plentiful. There are several businesses still mining and cutting stones.
@youngcameracompany
10 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much to The Huckish, and also to David Weaver for correcting my statements about Arkansas rock being unobtainable. As is often the case I was wrong. I wonder though if there is so much left, why does it cost so blooming much? Thanks for keeping me in check fella's.
@ardvarkkkkk1
10 жыл бұрын
Barry Young They will charge what people will pay. About 15 years ago, I bought a translucent Arkansas. Paid $85.00 for it. Seemed quite expensive but, when you consider it will last for the rest of your life, it's not to bad.
@youngcameracompany
10 жыл бұрын
ardvarkkkkk1 Agreed, depending on how many you need
@howabouthetruth2157
9 жыл бұрын
An awful lot of work goes into Arkansas novaculite being quarried from that Ouachita mountain range. Only a handful of companies do it. They have to dynamite a rock face, then sift through it to get what they're after. I bet they have to pay stiff federal fee's for permission to do it. Then they have to sort, cut, shape and surface the novaculite to absolute perfect flatness. It's no large scale operation done at some huge plant or factory. Besides, these super high quality stones beat anything else, and are still the ONLY choice for sharpening surgical instruments........and will last you a lifetime. .........just don't ever drop it........they will break easily.
@Crazyknives
6 жыл бұрын
Howabouthetruth thanks 👍 I'm just glad I came across this video, and you guys, an subscribing every one else on this topic, 👍
@taylor4386
3 ай бұрын
The only Arkansas stones that aren't in existence now( At least no longer being mined) are washitas. Hard and soft black and translucent Arkansas are still mined. Dans is a great modern day supplier
@lumpygasinavacuum8449
11 жыл бұрын
Thank you for spending the time on this effort.
@DeanO
11 жыл бұрын
A nice collection of stones
@bentontool
12 жыл бұрын
I keep my stones stored in an oil bath. It keeps them clean. Metal particles created in the sharpening process just fall off. Lift your stone out of the oil bath & you are immediately ready to go, albeit somewhat messier than storing dry stones. Resurfacing is best done on diamond plate or on silicon carbide sandpaper on a flat surface such as a surface plate. But no matter the technique you use, IT IS A LOT OF WORK! Note: ***The resurfacing does prematurely wear out the diamond stones.***
@tobarapprentice6618
2 жыл бұрын
Hey Barry. Great video. I wonder if you would take the time to do a follow up or supplementary video talking about where the different stones are used specifically in the machine shop. The reason I ask is that I have now 2 drawers with an assortment of stones, but before I thin down my inventory and have just 1 drawer full, I want to make sure that I don’t get rid of a stone that I might need. Thanks. Derek.
@leosedf
13 жыл бұрын
The best sharpening stone i've used is the Cretan stone. Unique in the world, never fails and makes razors. Very rare however.
@youngcameracompany
11 жыл бұрын
Water stones are superb. They are awesome for machining long cutting edges as used on woodworking hand tools. I use them when I sharpen my plane irons and paring chisels, they just don't have much use in the machine shop. They are also a pain in the butt to use because in order to use them correctly, they should be regularly immersed in water. Water and machine shop stuff is mostly not a good combo.
@ozgundemirr
14 жыл бұрын
While I dont tried 8000grit diamond stone yet, i find diamond stones to extremely helpful. They remain flat and clean. They cut extremely fast. They do a reasonably good job on the edges. So in summary at workshop I sharpen my tools with diamond stones first, japanese watersones next. And a slight stropping on a hard leather. At home I prefer ceramic stones as they give kitchen knives extreme polish without damaging the edge with their slow cutting action.
@TheHuckish
11 жыл бұрын
there are several quarry's in Arkansas that will sell you all the slips you want
@ozgundemirr
14 жыл бұрын
I find arkansas, indian, silicon carbide, turkish oilstones to be unsatisfactory. I also strongly suggest everyone to try sharpening tools with high grit sandpapers. Like matador brand in 2000 to 5000 grit. They are astonishingly good for any sharpening job.
@johnsears4197
2 жыл бұрын
diamond files for flatting stones
@ozgundemirr
14 жыл бұрын
Also you can clean your indian or silicon carbide stones with thinner. Also both indian, silicon carbide and ceramic stones tend to became clogged with use, as their particles bonded with very firm and hard binders. So they need to be resurfaced regularly. A coarse diamond stones is best here. This is why I like japanese stones. They always serve optimum performance lifetime and dont need to be resurfacing.
@mildyproductive9726
6 жыл бұрын
IME, hard-wearing stones don't necessarily need to be resurfaced, ever. And if they need resurfacing because they have "gone slick" it is never due to being dirty or clogged. Just add a little oil or water, and a "loaded" stone is no longer loaded. The act of sharpening with oil removes all the clogging that needs to be removed. The reason hard-wearing stones get slick is when you maintain them too flat and sharpen large flat tools on them. The surface takes a polish and cant cut, anymore. If you want these kinds of stones to cut without maintenance, try working down the corners and edges and keeping a little bit of convex curve in the surface. This keeps them cutting. Extreme flatness is not necessary to sharpen things. See ceramic rods.
@mildyproductive9726
6 жыл бұрын
...or clamp the stone to your bench and sharpen a 1/4" chisel with a bit of force. I promise if the stone ever cut before, it will cut here. Waterstones are designed/engineered to work when perfectly flat. They are fragile enough to create a lapping paste. Sharpening via pure 2 body abrasion is a different animal.
@mildyproductive9726
6 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/pYyCvqencKKabI4 ..... here is a link showing what happens when the surface of the stone gets too flat. ..... here's a link showing convexed stones used to finish razors. kzitem.info/news/bejne/l6-s0JeDr4mAd2U Apparently, this is the way all of the razor manufacturers in Solingen have done it for over a century. Dovo has apparently chaged to Arkansas stone since this video. If you understand how to shape the stone to the purpose, you might find hard-wearing stones such as Arkansas stones can be higher in cutting efficiency than softer/friable stones when you take wear and maintenance into consideration. Let alone $$.
@ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique
Жыл бұрын
A binsui and khao men work good as any man made whetstone. Oiled of course. Whetstones work best with mineral oil for sharpening.
@rubarb0406
3 жыл бұрын
So, what is a boat stone? I see these sold on Ebay from time-to-time.
@ozgundemirr
14 жыл бұрын
While japanese watersones do not polish as good as ceramic ones, they cut much faster with a high degree of polish. And ı find their shapening feeling on the stone is the best. Also who cares an extreme polish on a cutting tool, it will still get dull, and you dont need an extreme mirror surface for good results. I'm talking with ease cause I'm a luthier and have done some tests on different stones and sharpening angles.
@andregross7420
10 жыл бұрын
Arkansas stones are not completely depleted. I tend to use soft Arkansas, black, and translucent Arkansas. I like them better than India oilstones.
@howabouthetruth2157
9 жыл бұрын
Arkansas stones are FAR from being "depleted". There is enough super high quality novaculite Arkansas stones of every grade, to easily last another hundred years. That is a FACT. RIGHT THERE in the same Ouachita mountain range they've always been quarried from. I don't know where the guy in this video got this bad & totally false information from, but I've been hearing this crap since the early 80's. It's all a lie by certain companies trying to convince folks that good novaculite no longer exists, so they can sell you their man-made stones & diamond stones. HOGWASH. Nothing beats good Arkansas stones, and it's good to see someone like you, who uses & appreciates them.
@hashbrownman1981
9 жыл бұрын
Hi, good vid, very informative, thanx sir, I was just wondering, on the section when you go through stone flattening with three stones,, you hold up what looks like a pink/grey and white two sided stone ?? - what is this stone please, do you know? I have one that I got from a boot sale and have been trying to identify what it is?
@bamafaninky861
4 жыл бұрын
Dan's Whetstones is still mining and on the net. Check Google.
@EasyTBear
5 жыл бұрын
Do you gave any experience with rhyolite, jasper, Idaho jade, or petrified wood?
@CMAenergy
8 жыл бұрын
If I was going to flatten stones I would clamp one so it will spin in a mill as flat as you can Place a second on the table clamped to allow the one on the rotor to spin freely over it.With one stone spinning Move it over the other stone, The result I would think both come to be flattened ! The end result I believe is you don't use 3 stones Much faster and less effort. Would it work you tell me
@nxvn4666
7 жыл бұрын
I see your comment/question is 8 months old; and hopefully you (or anyone else) have not tried that. Being a trained Machinist for some time in a prior life; What you describe would be extremely dangerous. It would also expose the precision ways of the mill to heavy abrasives that they are not really designed for. There is equipment such as Surface and Rotary grinders with protected ways that would be better suited; but with that said, trying to secure a non-magnetic and non-precise object such as a honing stone wouldn’t be something I would recommend. Do yourself a favor; get a proper flattening stone and break out the elbow grease. :-) - Cheers
@ared18t
3 жыл бұрын
No don't you need three surfaces minimum. You just wind up making one convex and one concave
@ProjectsInMetal
11 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about the Japanese stones. I'll send Barry an email and let him know that there is a comment he should see.
@BossHossStudios
6 жыл бұрын
Dan’s Whetstones are not composites
@ozgundemirr
14 жыл бұрын
I dont agree with most people. I dont find arkansas stones polishing properties good. I dont satisfied with black or translucent. Also their cutting action is extremely slow as they are high density oilstones. For polishing ı find ceramic stones best. For me they are much better than japanese stones. But to achieve that they must be used dry and it takes long to sharpen and polish again.
@m.a.taylor6908
3 жыл бұрын
!0,000 years after our current civilization has collapsed. Guess what future archeologists will find?
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