If Anakin never fell to the dark side, his character would lose all believability to me. In my humble opinion, there is no way someone remains in the light after all that he’s been through. Especially if you’re presented with an opportunity to guarantee “safekeeping” over the one loved one you do have left (i.e. Padmé). His turn to the dark side was a PERFECT storm. If even one factor of the dozen or so factors that caused his fall was resolved/prevented, I think that would have been enough to keep him in the light (or at least enough to make a convincing argument for why he shouldn’t have believed he needed to turn). But EVERY single one of those factors played out in the worst, most painful possible way. Qui-Gon died (father figure vacuum), Shmi died (which forced Anakin to take his force visions seriously, which then forced an ultimatum on him to save Padmé), father-son relationship with Palpatine (literally the worst possible person to replace the void left by Qui-Gon, but also the only one who could pull it off), the Jedi Council’s distrust/belittlement of him (which was 100% unwarranted, especially when taking into consideration all that he did for the Republic in the Clone Wars TV show), Ahsoka leaving the Jedi Order (and for very good reason), the fact that the Jedi code isn’t fair to emotions and reactions, his deteriorating sanity and mental health, and just not knowing what he was fighting for. If you resolve even ONE of these issues (and there are several others I think should be included too but would take too long to expand on in a single KZitem comment), I think you end up with Jedi Grandmaster Anakin Skywalker. But unfortunately, life spat in the face of every opportunity Anakin had to deactivate the ticking time bomb that was his turn. Eventually, he became fed up. He was being pulled in so many directions that he stopped caring altogether and decided that he was having none of it anymore. Mind you, Anakin was 22 years old when he fell to the dark side. He was literally just a kid trying not to add another year of trauma to the 21 years of it that he already went through. Nonetheless, I respect your opinion and love your channel. My apologies for the rant hahah
@OneProtagonist
4 жыл бұрын
That is VERY well put. I have a hard time arguing against any of that. In my estimation, it really isn't about "why" he fell. It's that I can't just say "all is forgiven" when, at the end of the day, only Anakin is responsible for the choices he made. If someone commits a heinous crime, they are accountable for it , regardless of how hard their lives have been. I look at Anakin like this: The darkside is like cocaine. Once he got a taste, it made him feel 10 feet tall and drove him further than he would sober. However, if someone on coke walks into a preschool and murders every child there, then goes home and chokes his wife to death - we don't go "well, it was the drug's fault. Let'em go home." No, that is still the responsibility of the person who committed the act. I am not diminishing the hold substance abuse has on anyone, but at this point in the story, it was LITERALLY Anakin's first real taste and he resorted to murder. So, "why" he did it? I completely agree. You're analysis is spot on. It was, as you pointed out, a perfect storm. But, this is also why I consider Anakin the most tragic figure in Star Wars. The perfect storm led to his fall, but he's the only person responsible for the terrible choices he made. People lose loved ones all the time and don't resort to murder. People have terrible jobs and bosses and don't resort to murder. People close to us leave our lives that could have given guidance and we don't resort to murder. ... but if we do, that's still on us. Not the absentee parent. Not the lost loved one. Not the horrible boss. Not even the guy who is a bad influence. All of those factors lead to our state of mind, but at the end of the day, we are responsible for our own choices.
@sebin5216
4 жыл бұрын
One Protagonist I really appreciate you hearing me out! That’s a very fair point, I agree that everyone in life is ultimately responsible for their own choices. I also agree that it would be an understatement to say that murder is an extreme response to any taste of power. But I strongly believe Anakin’s situation is unique. In our reality, killing someone will not give you your job back, your happiness back, your love back, etc. It’ll just give you life in prison lol. But in Anakin’s case, he had to do it to tap into the dark side. Passionate emotions alone aren’t enough to sustain a strong connection to the dark side…you need to be beyond redemption. Palpatine killed his own parents. Dooku killed his best friend, Sifo Diyas. Darth Plagueis, as a kid, killed other kids. Plagueis also killed financial leaders that didn’t agree with him or that he didn’t need anymore during his years as a politician on Naboo. This is a big part of why Palpatine sent Anakin to slaughter everyone in the Jedi Temple; Anakin needed to tap into as much of the dark side as possible, as quickly as possible. Knowing that this would deepen his connection to the dark side--and, thus, bring him one step closer to obtaining the power to save Padmé--gave Anakin the conviction he needed to commit his dark deeds. Of course, this doesn’t make it any less evil, but his turn to the dark side would have been pointless if he didn’t go through with this. Now, one might respond with, “How does any of this justify why Anakin thought the Jedi were evil?” I don’t think people give enough credit to how Anakin’s view of the Jedi contributed to his fall. Yes, he wanted to save Padmé’s life, but I think Anakin also believed the Jedi’s shortcomings bore massive implications concerning the greater good of the galaxy. It’s not even so much the fact that the Jedi were flawed as much as it was that no one else was powerful enough to call them out on their flaws, which meant they wouldn’t change. And because they wouldn’t change, Anakin would never reach his full potential (since they were always holding him back). And if the chosen one doesn’t reach his full potential, how was he supposed to bring balance to the force/save the universe? Combine this with his distrust of the Order, their corruption, hypocrisy, unfairness, how powerful they were, and their skewed view of right and wrong (i.e. not even freeing his mother from slavery or letting him visit her), now you’ve got a moral argument for why the Jedi need to be out of the picture. In his eyes, a good guy that always stands in the way of true peace and balance (without any reproach whatsoever) is just as dangerous as those who are intentionally evil. I’m willing to argue that the Order’s negligence to be fully devoted to the light side--and their obliviousness to that fact--was just as harmful to the balance of the force as the intentional evil of the Sith. This is another reason why Anakin had to kill the younglings. If you could kill Hitler as child, would you? Some people say they would just help him get into art school, but more cynical people usually say they would go so far as to kill a child Hitler. This is the choice Anakin was faced with. His turn to the dark side would be for nothing if he let an entire generation of Jedi survive and carry on a code that he viewed as flawed and dangerous. This now begs the question, “Why did he choose the Sith over the Jedi, then?” Anakin saw both the Jedi and Sith as evil at this point, so he thought, “If I’m going end up evil either way, I might as well join the side that can help me keep Padmé alive and won’t hold me back rather than the side that will guarantee her death and will hold me back.” He was not naïve enough to think that the Sith weren’t evil; he just thought that the Sith were the lesser evil. (This particular point comes straight from George Lucas as well) Anakin’s betrayal wiped out the flawed Jedi Order (in a Noah’s Ark kind-of-way) and his redemption wiped out the Sith (thanks to Luke’s unwavering love and faith in his father). The force had tasked Anakin with carrying the incredible burden of essentially making a clean slate to bring balance, which would then be maintained by his son Luke (I will choose to ignore all sequel lore that tampers with the Skywalker legacy lmao). Both sides were flawed and needed to be eliminated, and this is also why I think this was the only path to balance (that’s a different discussion though, haha). I'm convinced that Anakin was never supposed to be completely on one side and everything had to play out the way it did. (Anyhow, please forgive me for giving you an entire thesis hahah but if you read this Jeremy, thank you so much.)
@rafz9147
3 жыл бұрын
Bro this one of the responses I've seen given
@sebin5216
3 жыл бұрын
@@rafz9147 Thanks bro hahah 🙏🏽
@llawliet5109
3 жыл бұрын
@@sebin5216 Wow, I don’t know what to say but reading it gave me the feels
@wut-dah_7212
3 жыл бұрын
It was the way he'd lost his mother (whom he'd promised he'd liberate) in such a brutal, sadistic, abrupt way, that solidified his trauma and unwavering desperation to prevent the same from happening to someone who'd essentially been, alongside his (pregnant) marital partner, a stand in for her. The primary feminine presence in his life that was unapologetically ripped away from him once before. He didn't want it to happen again so he delusionally went to unspeakable lengths to make it so he wouldn't fail a second time. But he still does. Because that desperation shattered the metaphorical chains that were his morality and sense of reason keeping his ever growing anger and resentment at bay, though barely. Therefore finally letting his hatred fester and getting high off the power it provided. Until he ultimately became the monster he'd always thought the Tusken Raiders were. He'd killed Padme just as the Raiders killed his mom, despite doing everything he though necessary to prevent that outcome. A cruel irony.
@OneProtagonist
3 жыл бұрын
Love this description!
@jessicaaxo6321
4 жыл бұрын
This narration is so chilling! It is very true ‘the hero with no fear’; when you think about it like this, it’s what made Vader so terrifying! It is a man who has lost EVERYTHING.... he has lost his wife, his ‘child’ (he believes), his brother, his padawan and his old life. ‘The final cruelty of the Sith’ SUFFERING he will now have to live with this, forever! Knowing HE did this, his choices are the reason he lost everything, and now... he has nothing else to lose. NOTHING to fear anymore, and THAT is why Vader is terrifying. Another great reaction video I look forward to more! If I may make a suggestion for you to watch Skywalker- A Darth Vader Tribute by Neenkin (if you haven’t done so already) :)
@OneProtagonist
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks and completely agree! Anakin/Vader is such a tragic character because he tried to have everything and ended up with nothing. Even the power he gained was empty and hollow as Vader. I have the Skywalker-DVT on my list already! It's been suggested a couple times, so I will have to get to it soon 🙂
@amvsoftomorrows8696
6 ай бұрын
i ADORE how happy you are
@eduardofarias6810
11 ай бұрын
You missed the point. Anakin's only agenda when he accepted Sidious' deal was to save Padmé. I'm going to compare the dark side of the force to cocaine. Sidious comes to Anakin and says: do you want to save Padmé? So use this and become stronger to save her. Anakin goes and uses it and that's where he gets lost. The dark side is addictive, it warps your mind and maximizes your worst flaws. It's like you surrender to the animal inside you. Because of this his only agenda was to actually save Padmé, but when he turned to the dark side, all reason was lost and new ideas began to emerge, new desires. And this is so true that in episode 2, Anakin says he would support an empire and believes Palpatine would be a good emperor. He never speaks of himself as emperor, but someone else, and he would be much more comfortable supporting. Besides that, Anakin is openly known for hating politics, fame, public speaking and office work. Everything that someone who wants to be an emperor should loves. And I believe that an idea that corroborates this is the amount of despair he has when he helps Sidious defeat Windu. He basically throws himself on the ground kneeling at the mercy of Sidious asking him to just save Padmé. That look and voice of despair and how he cries moments before in the council room, shows that his only desire was to save Padmé at that moment, but after that, he was completely lost. But of course, even with ALL the Jedi's mistakes regarding Anakin. Ahsoka's expulsion, Shmi's death, the dirty work of spying, the question of mastery, the 13 years that Sidious twisted in his head, and the stupid jedi thing about emotions, Anakin is completely to blame for his choices. He didn't trust Padmé, unlike Luke who trusted in his friends' survival when the emperor tried to seduce him to the dark side in ep VI. And that's Anakin's point, as he thinks he should have enough power to prevent everything on his own, he ends up becoming a selfish and possessive person who wants to do everything himself while the people he cares about stand by and wait. And when everything doesn't go according to what he planned (because he did everything alone) anger and despair take control and he does stupid things, such as allying himself with Sidious. Other than that, as for free will, it doesn't come into this question. From what can be understood by Mortis' arc in clone wars and all the failures of the Jedi Order, Anakin's fall was predestined in order to end both Jedi and Sith, as both orders were corrupt and had ideas that opposed the force. most powerful in the Star Wars universe: love. That's why the only Jedi left in the galaxy was Luke, because he was the only one who understood this concept and how redemption and forgiveness are gifts.
@nealsandy8464
3 жыл бұрын
With all his destructive and fury he can't destroy the one thing he hates most. Himself.
@OneProtagonist
3 жыл бұрын
So well said!
@blakebridges8989
4 жыл бұрын
Usually when people talk about Darth Vader, they separate him from Anakin Skywalker. It kind of feels like a cop out to me. Anakin is Darth Vader he is responsible for the death and enslavement of millions. This video really explains that greatly.
@Hybrid980
3 жыл бұрын
Vader is literally Anakin corrupted by the dark side of the force, they are not two separate people, as it is not that simple, the dark side makes a mockery of everything you once stood for, and so Anakin corrupted by the dark side is naturally the polar opposite of Anakin while under the influence of the light, the dark side amplifies all of your worst tendencies and emotions, while it destroys or significantly lessens(in Vader's case as he obviously came back to the light in RoTJ) all of your positive qualities, this is why people come under the misconception that Anakin is not Vader or Vader is not Anakin, it is not that Vader isn't Anakin, it's that Vader is the manifestation of all of Anakins worst qualities and negative emotions influenced and amplified by the dark side of the force, so this naturally creates the perception he is a different person.
@Hybrid980
3 жыл бұрын
On another note, this is why historically(in the EU, which is what I consider to be the valid form of canon) that Jedi who've fallen to the dark side, are often some of the worst Sith and villains in the galaxy, like Anakin, fallen Jedi have constantly repressed their darker tendencies and emotions for their whole life, and so naturally, when they do fall, all of that repression and years of unsaid emotion come bursting forward in a storm of emotion that would give even lifetime Sith some pause.
@dianabarnett6886
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that stuff about Vader replacing Anakin is nonsense. They are the same person, even if he himself doesn't want to admit it. It's disassociation, his way (And Obi-Wan's) of coping with what he has done.
@luckysage4240
2 жыл бұрын
in my opinion, Vader is the armor that anakin built around himself when he felt the galaxy turned agaisnt him. Vader is little more then that, Anakins rage and hated manifest, lashing out at the galaxy around him like a cornered animal. Anakin is not vader, but vader is anakin
@jaieregilmore971
3 ай бұрын
In the end of the day Vader is Anakin at his most weakest.
@CalamityDiamond
2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate someone who realizes the tragedy of Anakins fall.
@LordOgr1312
2 жыл бұрын
This clearly explain Anakin's point of view on vader , and the pain inside of him . this is what he torments himself with every minute of every day
@Chuck79Wagon
4 жыл бұрын
you should check out broken heroes by dudufilm. it compares Anakin and Revan from Kotor
@OneProtagonist
4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely adding that to my list! Thanks for the suggestion!
@dianabarnett6886
3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you.
@TheOrangeAmazing
4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love hearing people talking about Anakin, always an fascinating character to me. I'd be interested if you react to anything else by dudufilms, he's got some really wellmade videos on some really interesting topics and cool themes in the Star Wars universe
@OneProtagonist
4 жыл бұрын
Dudufilms is definitely on my radar now. Stay tuned because they will pop up on my channel again.
@colethomas2689
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome way of analyzing the video and Anakin's mindset my man. It's nice to hear serious talk about star wars cause us nerds take it very serious
@OneProtagonist
3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@colethomas2689
3 жыл бұрын
@@OneProtagonist anytime. You earned a subscriber. Keep up the good work 👍👍
@codieomeallain6635
2 жыл бұрын
Anakin was always ruthlessly ambitious, and the fact that he was legitimately extremely powerful and therefore indulged and promoted to a far greater degree than he really should have been only enabled it and fed into his belief that anyone who opposed his rise was a personal threat to him and not an opportunity to improve himself. Sidious being in position to stroke his ego and manipulate him did not help but at the end of the day you cannot appeal to a character flaw that does not already exist. Sidious did not *make* Anakin an angry, ruthless, arrogant, ambitious man; he just played with him to make those traits more pronounced. Whatever you think of his politics the Critical Drinker has a video on Anakin which really explains this quite well.
@alannorris3819
3 жыл бұрын
You should watch more of dudufilms content.
@OneProtagonist
3 жыл бұрын
I have a ton on my list. There will definitely be more to come!
@jaieregilmore971
3 жыл бұрын
Quick question I read this in a fanfic one time but it seem legit to not be true but do you think R-2 and C-3PO are wedding gift from Anakin and Padme because it make scenes considering Anakin made C-3PO and later gave him to Padme as form of a Wedding ring and Padme did the same by having R-2 and gave him to Anakin since they can’t actually show they actually have wedding rings to keep their marriage a secret so the alternative would be in the form of R2 and C3PO plus make scenes in the clone war episode on why Anakin was hell bent on rescue R2 not only he was his best friend but also a form of Padme and his marriage. Also it explain why R2 and C3PO stay with Luke and Leia because they are the last piece of their parents love.
@OneProtagonist
3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE this explanation. I’ve never seen it in canon, but I agree. It fits so perfectly, I’m going to choose to believe it’s true.
@okamisenshi6547
4 жыл бұрын
Please react to "the most evil thing the jedi did" the sith holocaust by the Lore Master
@OneProtagonist
4 жыл бұрын
Oh, that sounds interesting. I am putting it on the list! Thanks for the suggestion!
@luckysage4240
2 жыл бұрын
Anakin will burn forever. a part of him will never leave mustafar
@Laura-vn4su
3 жыл бұрын
i think he choked her because he was so deep into the dark side, he always was arrogant but all he did was for her, and, at the end he was basically the cause of her dead. But because he fell to the dark side, for a lot of reasons. Is the irony of all this. That's my opinion.
@basemtalha
4 жыл бұрын
Pls react to Anakin's slaughter of the separatist council on Mustafar. The best part of Revenge of the Sith
@SithReign
3 жыл бұрын
@xylonus
3 жыл бұрын
bruh. like the narration though
@user-om4lw2eg6u
4 жыл бұрын
Great video I liked the insight this gave into anakins thoughts, can you please react to •(SW) Anakin Skywalker || Anger by TheTargaryenWolf
@OneProtagonist
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I put it on the list!
@user-om4lw2eg6u
4 жыл бұрын
One Protagonist thanks
@NickNick_94
4 жыл бұрын
Do a Reaction to the broken promise
@OneProtagonist
4 жыл бұрын
I put it on the list!
@jeremiahramirez8915
4 жыл бұрын
He wanted to save Padme, he didn't want to be a monster that is just what he became as a result.
@shanekinsley9690
4 жыл бұрын
No your wrong the dragon is not anger it's the light side of the force to except she was going to die see Darth Vader is not a tyrant because you gave him a choice to give up all the power all the money to bring her back he would accept in a second with out thought because he's every one that had there first love you only get colder when you accept the truth and burn in your heart when you know you don't have the power to change it
@OneProtagonist
3 жыл бұрын
That's definitely a different take. I'll have to re-watch with that perspective and see if I agree.
@Dagenspear
3 жыл бұрын
He should've thought of that earlier.
@shanekinsley9690
3 жыл бұрын
@@Dagenspear sorry Who should have thought of that earlier
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