If you watch contemporary recording studio tours and interviews with professional audio engineers, the vast majority utilize hybrid recording and mixing techniques. They view devices as a "color" or "flavor" tools and utilize the best of both analog and digital tech.
@just82much51
2 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@my3jeeps
2 жыл бұрын
I think a huge limitation using analog for recording is track limitations. I am very green on all this but there's a limited number of tracks to record on meaning the band may have really long takes. Oh, he mentions this. Nevermind.
@patsow4797
2 жыл бұрын
The points you make or incredibly valuable, there is one cadence I would like to bring up is the amount of quality in actual music being the artist itself along with the lack of real instruments is incredibly discouraging, but you are spot-on when it comes to colour and flavour along with the texture of various instruments playing in an off of the surroundings, something not so easily duplicated in the digital flat realm
@Teleausencia
2 жыл бұрын
That's true. And it happens because they're sensible people who makes sensible decisions in order to solve concrete real life audio problems. But this is Internet and we come here to argue about our own taste and preferences as if they were facts in order to feel better than other people or justify to ourselves our unnecessary spending of money 😁
@Teleausencia
2 жыл бұрын
@@patsow4797 Philosophical question: what's a "real" instrument?
@grahamserle7930
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I'm an audio nerd born in the late 50's and I've had all the formats. I think the biggest difference in what I hear comes down to the production quality/mix. I get asked this question a lot about which format is better but personally I think the digital format is way superior in so many ways. Yes I can pick the difference in something digital that is overly compressed but digitally remastered music from previous decades generally sounds way better than a mass produced vinyl record of that time for example. In fact there are limitations with vinyl too in replicating all the original frequencies because of the very narrow grooves, so there's that. If I had the original master on 2" wide tape I might change my mind but I've moved on from those days.
@davidwapenyi164
3 ай бұрын
These days when I see the word remastered, it’s almost orgasmic for me. I know that the remastered cd will sound the best ever nowadays, because now the mastering engineers have gotten comfortable with digital and have the new experience to better take advantage of it. There’s this one CD in my collection: Quincy Jones Back on the Block. My favorite track is the birdland remake. In the original cd the bass was light, and the horns, when they came blaring it was an assault on the senses so harsh that it made me go Wtf!?! Did anybody actually listen to the CD before they sent it out for mass reproduction? In the remastered CD, they DEFINITELY got the memo. Bass was deep, growling. And the horns? They sang. They sang hard. They sang loud. They sang rich. They sang powerful. It was beautiful.
@pokepress
2 жыл бұрын
I do think it's worthwhile to work with analog recordings at least a few times, even if you plan on using digital for everything. It gives you a better understanding of how sound reproduction works and what modifying waveforms actually does.
@SilentGloves
2 жыл бұрын
As a mastering engineer, I sometimes pass a track through my analog loop purely for the DA/AD conversion. Doing so can take the edge off of certain music that has mostly been created digitally. Most of my clients are independent electronic music artists, and it isn't uncommon for me to receive a song that has zero analog sources in the mix. Just pushing it through the analog domain can sometimes be just what it needs. It's amazing how just a quick analog round trip can breathe life into an otherwise sterile tune. I'm not entirely sure exactly what this phenomenon is, because my DA/AD conversion is exceedingly transparent in terms of THD+N (-114dB), frequency response, phase, impulse response, and everything else I can measure. Perhaps its just confirmation bias, but my ears definitely perceive it.
@SilentGloves
2 жыл бұрын
@@teedesigns9022 I use a Lynx Hilo for DA/AD.
@IagoVital
2 жыл бұрын
Easy: Just pass it though a Abbey Road Vinyl preset! ...just joking tho but it could do the trick if you aint got that juicy analog stuff
@l0gaRythm
Жыл бұрын
Is it just the little bit of stereo distortion, which giveth breath to a sterile digital signal? Tiny differences between R and L induced by the "imperfect" analog circuits?
@michael-4k4000
Жыл бұрын
Haha now your talking
@SilentGloves
Жыл бұрын
@@l0gaRythm I doubt it because I'm not introducing any. At least not any that is able to be perceived. My L/R channels are calibrated to about 0.03dB.
@hvymettle
Жыл бұрын
It's not always about the physics, sometimes it's about the feeling, and that's difficult to quantify. I grew up in an analog world and was an active participant in the digital revolution. Truth be told I've been to far too many concerts and my hearing isn't what it used to be so I can't tell any difference. But when I fire up the Harmon Kardon tube amp and put an album on the Dual 1249 and hear that crackle and hiss it makes me nostalgic for that time when nothing was perfect but life was good. Digital sounds great and is very convenient but it doesn't live within me.
@sambolino44
2 жыл бұрын
As you mentioned, the technology has eliminated a lot of the limitations we used have, like the number of tracks, and this has resulted in the music changing. Kind of like how people started singing differently when they got electric microphones, songwriters and producers can now do things that were impossible before. This is not a bad thing, but sometimes it's the working within whatever limit you have set for yourself that results in art that would not have been achieved if you'd have had no limits. There's no reason why someone can't limit the number of tracks they use in a DAW, but speaking for myself, it's a lot easier to stay within your limits if it's impossible to exceed them. People started taking pictures differently once they no longer had to worry about how much film they had, or how much it cost to develop it. I think it takes awhile before people no longer get any benefit from old tech. Eventually, this talk about the limitations of the technology resulting in different music will be irrelevant and seem quaint. Or, maybe not; maybe artists will always go back to the old ways of doing things for a fun challenge. I know I enjoy doing stuff like trying to get a good sounding recording with one microphone, for instance.
@KSchultz98
2 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the "autotune" that is used in an exceed way bc most artist are lazy nowadays.
@lonobannoniii1123
Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@serratusx
2 жыл бұрын
I always hated the inner groove distortion that affects the last few tracks on each LP as the record turns slower and the resolution takes a nosedive. It was great when I could finally hear my favourite records on CD and have consistent quality throughout
@Teleausencia
2 жыл бұрын
I've been collecting vinyl for a couple of years and, though I love them, I've been feeling increasingly that same hate of inner groove distortion. Is it me or is it worse on newer releases? I've got some old records were it is almost unnoticeable, and newer records were it's been just disappointing.
@serratusx
2 жыл бұрын
@@Teleausencia I seem to remember that they would choose a track listing to minimise the effect. It affects louder tracks more I think. I suspect it’s not a consideration any more and they maintain the same track order as a CD release
@johnguerrero9661
2 жыл бұрын
@@Teleausencia ju
@deda92sm
2 жыл бұрын
Just buy microline stylus and IGD is looong gone
@SolarSteveW
Жыл бұрын
@@deda92sm This is so true in my experience (using AT440MLa)
@stringstorm
2 жыл бұрын
My preference on this whole Digital vs Analog debate isn't about sound. Both have their advantages and their usecase. They're tools and are meant to be used to benefit the user. The only reason why I side with Digital is mainly because of the corporate side of things. Without Digital, literally none of us would be here to discuss this. Because if only analog was available, it would be barred behind a massive cost which only certain groups are able to afford. And even then, these groups are more than likely to keep it to themselves. We've seen it happen when these groups tried to scramble to monopolize digital formats because it messed with the status quo. Digital gave these monopolizing corporats the middle finger. And that's why, atleast for me, digital is superior.
@shadowseal22
2 жыл бұрын
I took the audiophile pill almost a decade ago, and I can not tell you how many times I had to explain to someone that actually no, just because it's an analog medium doesn't make it the best, and vinyl especially has a lot of compromises (mainly some heavy high passing on the master to prevent wider, deeper, grooves to fit more music on each side), when I switched to lossless digital for the fidelity boost. It's funny because I use a lot of analog hardware (synths and a few compressors mostly) but like a lot of people are saying, I use them for flavor. Mixer clipping is fun and it doesn't take long to bounce a track from the computer back into ableton and see if processing it from there is better than processing it in the box. Fantastic video!
@goredzilla
2 жыл бұрын
The thing I love about analog is that every time you hear it, the analog source physically changes and that experience can never be duplicated.
@HelloKittyFanMan.
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, right, like you notice enough difference between one play and the immediate next for you to perceive it as a "new experience." You'll likely get more difference between one _live_ analog performance and the next of the same thing, and not even notice _that._
@goredzilla
2 жыл бұрын
@@HelloKittyFanMan. Everyone listens and feels music differently. Some people pick up things others don't, plus im a recording engineer / musician so my ear might be able to perceive a difference, either way cool topic of discussion.
@HelloKittyFanMan.
2 жыл бұрын
OK, @@goredzilla, then why do you treat these miniscule, barely-present differences from one play of an analog recording to the next as if they're a bigger deal to you than going from one concert to the next of that same band when they play the same songs at one concert and the next (I'm not trying to compare the differences between studio and concert here)?
@goredzilla
2 жыл бұрын
@@HelloKittyFanMan. Im not. My only point was that source analog degrades over time because of the physical limitations of tape and vinyl giving the listener a different experience both good and bad over the long term with the same analog source.
@thegroove2000
2 жыл бұрын
ITS THAT MAGICAL MOJO.
@hawkeye2816
2 жыл бұрын
I can't claim to be an expert, but I did take some signal processing courses for my engineering degree back in school. This is pretty good and fairly thorough . There are only a couple things I want to add. The biggest limitation for both is physical media storage. Distributable analog media are horrendous quality and while digital is better, CDs are far from perfect. Information is recorded on a tape by magnetizing finely ground rust and you can only grind rust so fine. Tape hiss is caused by the physical resolution of the rust particles. Similarly, vinyl is susceptible to dust at all points in its lifespan, even during manufacturing, because it's impossible to get something 100% clean. The pops and cracks and hisses on vinyl are generally caused by dust or physical imperfections in the disc itself. CDs suffer from similar limitations to both vinyl and tape but generally have less strict storage requirements and some level of built-in redundancy. People that complain about how CDs are fragile or whatever are glossing over dust, scratches, and warping on vinyl and stretching, tearing, and dust on tapes. All physical media are fragile and will eventually wear out, but analog media unavoidably degrades with every use whereas digital can be more easily protected with care. The only measurable advantage analog has in this regard is you don't have to worry as much about storage capacity; digital media had to use compression because uncompressed digital audio is big and hard to transmit. Digital manipulation is not as scary as it might sound. Mathematically, DSP does exactly the same thing as any analog manipulation but with less error. Analog components are horribly imprecise. All analog components change properties with temperature and humidity. While you can mitigate the effects and manufacture with tight tolerances, you can't avoid it entirely. You can use the exact same make and model of analog equalizer on the same day and in the same room and the center frequencies might be slightly different for the same filters. Similarly, you can use the exact same analog equalizer on two different days and end up with different results from what should be identical settings. Digital does not have this problem. Barring a bit switch from random quantum fluctuations or cosmic rays or some crazy crap like that, you will get mathematically precise filters every time until the machine just stops working. The vast majority of music these days is digital at some point before it gets to you, so a preference for analog is generally not about the quality of the recording, even if the people with that preference think it is. For older people, it could be nostalgia for the "simple days" back when they were younger. For young people, maybe it's the aesthetic. Humans are highly tactile creatures: we like being able to touch and manipulate things. You can't touch or smell a digital file the way you can a vinyl record. There's a classic aesthetic about having a turntable in the room. There's certain satisfaction from turning it on and setting the arm in the groove, or the tactile click of the door on the tape player as you close it. For some people, these outweigh and cover up the unavoidable imperfections inherent to analog media.
@elkeospert9188
Жыл бұрын
I agree - except for one point: "The only measurable advantage analog has in this regard is you don't have to worry as much about storage capacity; digital media had to use compression because uncompressed digital audio is big and hard to transmit." You can buy a 512 GB microSD card for about 50 Euro which could store about 780 audio cds without any compression - so to store one Audio CD on such a microSD costs only 6 cent! If you use lossless audio compression you can improve that values to 1300 audio cds and 4 cent storage cost per CD. From a cost perspective that is much cheaper than everything possible with analog... And while I microSD has about the size of a fingernail the space requirement to store 1300 LPs is anything but negligible
@hawkeye2816
Жыл бұрын
@@elkeospert9188 Two points: 1. You're not going to go to a music store and buy a thumb drive of music. You'll buy it on a CD. 2. CDs were a work of magic back in the day. The CD format was literally the densest digital data storage available. It only got there due to high precision manufacturing and incredibly clever compression. And it was still bigger than a cassette tape. You might be able to store uncompressed data on a 512GB SD card today, but that wasn't the argument, and the people who care about compression simply don't care about modern solutions.
@elkeospert9188
Жыл бұрын
@@hawkeye2816 "1. You're not going to go to a music store and buy a thumb drive of music. You'll buy it on a CD." Some music I bought indeed on CD and ripped it to some digital storage. From time to time I meet with friends having also copied their CDs to HDD - and know you can think what happened....(it was definitly legal to share music in such a way at that time in Germany....) " It only got there due to high precision manufacturing and incredibly clever compression." I not understand what you mean with "incredibly clever compression" when it comes to Audio CDs. Audio CDs do not use any kind of lossless or lossy data compression. "Clever" was the concept to add additional bits which allowed error detection and in most cases perfect error correction ("Red Solomon Code") - but this methods were already known before the development of the Audio CD started. And this error correction system reduced the production cost of an Audio CD dramatically because you not need to produce a 100% error free CD to provide the customer a 100% perfect result.
@steveknight878
2 жыл бұрын
Great video - very interesting. There are other advantages to digital that I think you didn't have time to cover. For instance, dynamic range (much greater in digital than in vinyl or tape). Also the related problem that vinyl has to be processed in both the recording phase and the playback - the RIAA curve. Then there is the fact that vinyl is recorded and played back with constant angular velocity, which means that the linear speed changes, and thus the resolution. There is a limit to the highest frequencies that can be recorded, and playing back will physically wear the record down more at these frequencies than the lower ones. And too high a frequency and the stylus will skip over the waveform. Then there is, of course, the surface noise. TBH it is amazing that vinyl performs as well as it does. But the preference for vinyl that some people express is because of - or despite - the inherent and considerable flaws in the medium. All these things could be reproduced in the digital domain, if required.
@ricktotty2283
Жыл бұрын
I glad to hear someone telling the truth. Most music or ruined by recording it. If you use only one microphone to record drums , you can’t go back after 30 years and fix it. I got rid of all my vinyl years ago. I stream most of my music.
@jmad627
2 жыл бұрын
I’m 60, and have been collecting and listening to vinyl records since I’ve been around eight, I think, and although I’m used to the analog, I like the digital CDs as well and listen to both these days. There are pluses and minuses on both ends of the scale. I have very minimal, component-wise, systems. Are the LPs bulky? Well yeah, but I love ‘em, and I can’t say that I’ve noticed too much in any degrading of sound after each listen.
@BCRobot
2 жыл бұрын
Wow … nice presentation and exceptional resources … it’s been a beat since my college engineer classes for RTVF … thank you
@artbremer4076
2 жыл бұрын
Without any science, working with both worlds - analogue does sound better. It gives that 3d dimension and smoothness and roundness that sounds like a record and something that digital equipment cannot yet recreate. That is why in pro world, recording is always done with analogue, while mixing is now becoming increasingly in the box. The quality of modern digital plugins is superb and one doesn't need 20 pultecs to EQ tracks. Editing and production is another advantage. When Pro Tools first came out, everyone was apprehensive of this new beast. But ,ultimately, it turned the audio world upside down when everyone realized how much easier it made the production stage. However, the consensus still is that recording should remain analogue. Using the best consoles, mics, pres, compressors, EQs etc... to capture that depth and warmth and then into the digital domain - DAWs and stuff. This is why professional studios using insanely expensive digital converters: it preserves the analogue nature of the record. Digital audio is here and it wont go away. It only will keep getting better and keep making our life easier. Will it ever completely replace the analogue ? Unlikely.
@wearefromserbia9714
5 ай бұрын
Lemme see vinyl do 3d 7.1 sound
@BioCybergoth
4 ай бұрын
analog media will degrade with each year adding more distortion (warmth) and you will keep telling to yourself and wrongly educate others that digital is not better while ignoring the best feature on purpose, digital will keep that initial quality of the recording studio intact forever until the media device gets replaced by another due to damage, corruption or wear & tear of the silicon which is expected to happen but will take way longer time to degrade and malfunction, while not altering sound quality, analog isn't better than digital and you're just justifying degrading media containers as perfect for preservation as you tell in your comment. get over it.
@robertschnobert9090
4 ай бұрын
Actually every time you listen to a record (vinyl OR shellac) the sound quality gets better! It adds warmth haha 🌈
@jimcrowley1709
2 жыл бұрын
Good video. I’m a fan of digital audio however sound engineers have abused the format because the digital format will accommodate that whereas in the analog world strict rules have to be followed. This is one reason why people are rediscovering the beauty of analog such as vinyl.
@EvanVincent.
2 жыл бұрын
I was going to make this same argument. Digital can be brickwalled. You can't really do that with analog in the same way. I think the biggest benefit for analog is something being physical. We live in a physical reality. Humans like tangible things we can touch. We like to collect and display things. Nobody cares about your mp3 collection. Even if its uncompressed lossless wav files.
@jimcrowley1709
2 жыл бұрын
@@EvanVincent. I too prefer the physical world. There’s something about having a milk crate full of 78’s and rediscovering treasure’s I’ve forgotten about. I see the same thing with streaming movies, movies I like I want physical blu ray copies that I can touch.
@stickplayer2
2 жыл бұрын
Another way to think of Aliasing, where a frequency higher than the Nyquist frequency gets "read" as a much lower frequency, is strobing. This is the same thing that happens when a video camera's shutter frequency is close to a exact divider of the frequency of some visual occurence. For example, we've all seen a spinning wheel on a car appear to slow down, stop, and even move (slowly, usually) in reverse. Our own visual perception systems have a natural frequency, and when the wheel is turning at close to an exact multiple of the visual frequency, we see the wheel appear to slow, stop, and reverse. This is all because one is sampling visually, something that occurs at a fast rate than the visual sampling rate. You "see" something moving at a much slower rate than it actually is - the wheel is spinnning fast, but you see a different, slower frequency. Alisasing is the same thing - audio sampling rate is "phasing" along the period of the waveform. So, can aliasing result in a lower frequency reversed sound, like the wheel appearing to spin backward? Good question, and one it would be fun to experiment with.
@elkeospert9188
2 жыл бұрын
"Our own visual perception systems have a natural frequency, and when the wheel is turning at close to an exact multiple of the visual frequency, we see the wheel appear to slow, stop, and reverse. " That is not the reason for the spinning wheel phaenomea. Think about an analog clock which you are filming with a frame rate of 1 picture every 59 seconds which is of course very slow and definitly no problem for the human eye to follow. Now "playback" that photo sequence with the same frame rate of 1 picture every 59 seconds on a TV. It will appear that the second hand is moving backwords. If you do the same but using a frame rate of 1 picture every 60 seconds the second hand will not move anymore in the playback. If you look (without recording and playback) to a real constant spinning wheel it will never change direction or speed - the only thing that happens is that at some speed details are smudged
@HaharuRecords
2 жыл бұрын
07:39 I really believe that, at first we used to ignore a lot of things, same as we listen to some one we miss or ignore a lot of expression and meaning what he/she gives but if we consider think about again (re visit back in time or getting in the mind space) really makes us realize more and more each and evetime. 🙂 and thank you Kyle, Really appreciate your gift
@AudioUniversity
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Haharu Records!
@barisaxx4493
2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Points for clarification: 1) magnetic tape does not store charges. It stores differences in magnetic flux. 2) digitized signals are never as precise as analog signals since they are captured by a finite sample-rate. However, because your ear cannot hear anything above about 20kHz (and my ear can barely handle anything over 11kHz), the human cannot hear the difference given a high enough sample rate. That is probably the best way to understand the issue you discuss around 7:20. Finite sample rate is fine as long as you only care about a finite bandwidth (and, as you say, the sample rate is over 2X the highest frequency you care about).
@mbredthauer
2 жыл бұрын
Regarding your 2nd point: The important message to get across to audiophiles, who still believe that AD and DA conversion is the act of computational approximation, is that a digital signal _always_ leads to a precise 1:1 reproduction of the org. analog signal, if the org. signal lies within the bandwidth constraints of the digital signal's sampling frequency. This is the insight (and audiophile enlightenment) that makes Monty Montgomerys video worth watching - again and again! :-)
@snap-off5383
2 жыл бұрын
Its not because "the human ear cannot hear the difference" its because they are converted back from digital to analog in the perfect inverse of how they were converted from analog to digital. Neither your speaker nor your ear are receiving approximations.
@kas4751
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guide! Btw thanks also for all the videos you posted on KZitem. So much objective information gained from your videos.
@travisbartley58
2 жыл бұрын
Analog is my favorite, but from a recording standpoint digital is easier most home recording studios don't have access to a full band
@inkredebilchina9699
2 жыл бұрын
you sir are my new fave yt channel. discovery of the 2021. seriously. poped up in some speaker comparison videos with your balanced vs unbalanced signal explanation and I subscribed immediately. thank you for your content.
@Splenda257
2 жыл бұрын
One of the best no nonsense videos on the internet.
@technopsychobedlam
2 жыл бұрын
Its strange to me that some audiophiles pay a lot of money for reference audio system components that provide 'purity' of playback...but then they put vinyl on and claim the snap, crackle and pop of their constantly degrading playback medium is just fine!!
@Earthtime3978
Жыл бұрын
Interesting point, and just as interesting is that you received no responses.
@JoeOrber
2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video overall. The Nyquist theorem definitely proves that you can represent a frequency by sampling at least at twice that rate, but as you mentioned that's why the sampling is done at more than 40kHz to avoid distortion and aliasing. I'd add a disadvantage to digital media files. If your file gets corruoted there's normally no way to fix it, so the music/content is gone for good. With analog media you may be able to recover most of it (e.g. a song may skip once or twice but most of it will be there, and it may be even physically repaired). In the end I think having backups always helps in case something goes wrong, so you should tape your vinyl records, and/or digitize your analog music collection, and keep a backup of your digital files, a little bit paranoid but better safe than sorry lol 😆
@theclearsounds3911
2 жыл бұрын
Backup, backup, and backup again! Your copies will be perfect every time. I realize, though, that it only works if your original file isn't corrupted. All this talk about Nyquist. Nyquist only applies if your filter is perfect, and it isn't. The problem is that 22.05Khz is way too close to 20Khz to be able to design and build a perfect filter that steep. They should have made the sampling rate 100Khz and make the CD's physically larger. Then it would be so much easier to make a good filter. If you backup all your analog music like I did, then there's a lot of second-guessing later. Should I get a better turntable/cartridge/preamp and do it all over again?
@framegrace1
Жыл бұрын
" If your file gets corruoted there's normally no way to fix it, so the music/content is gone for good" If it's just the file, can be recovered on almost all formats.... Of course it all depends. If the physical support is totally corrupted, no, there's no way. But that's the same in analog.
@arvidlystnur4827
21 күн бұрын
Good to explain the difference between digital compression and dynamic compression, in digital music. I've never noticed the problem of dynamic compression in my CDs compared with vinyl I hear more dynamic expansion. Perhaps it's because I listen to prog, fusion and classical music. These forms of music use dynamics as a major component. Perhaps pop music is where the loud war happens. I
@Tygise
Жыл бұрын
I love your channel! Thank you so much, all your videos have been super helpful! I'm basically bingewatching all of them! Thanks a ton!!
@jazzboy
5 ай бұрын
Great vid! Non-polarized and extremely accurate. Personally I enjoy the ritual of playing vinyl. Also the production chain of older records is better represented on records as the remastered versions of classics for digital are sometime quite horrible...and sometimes stellar like Miles Davis' Kind of Blue streamable at 192/24. So many great choices today. Nice work.
@darwinsaye
2 жыл бұрын
The only thing I have to say on the topic is that it makes me shake my head, how many people will buy a contemporary, digitally recorded and digitally mastered album that was released on vinyl, and then praise it's analog sound. If someone says that they prefer the "warmth" of analog recordings, I'm not going to dispute them, but for gods sake, that's only an argument for albums recorded Analog/Analog/Analog.
@AudioUniversity
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, mk. At the end of the day, I think there are many things to love about analog delivery formats, but accuracy and transparency is not one of them. If it’s recorded digitally, I want to listen to a digital copy.
@CrazyLazyDave
2 жыл бұрын
The imperfections of vinyl are sometimes positive. And the difference in mastering for vinyl is sometimes positive. These are not always positive, but often they are. Digital is always more accurate as long as the resolution is high enough. However, very often analog is more pleasing. They, simply put, sound different. A vinyl record can't be as compressed or have as much bass, for example, because of the limitations of the mediums involved. While yes this is limitation, it can lead to a more desirable listening experience. If I record a vinyl record onto my computer in high resolution, the digital playback sounds identical to what I monitor analog during recording. Digital is capable of perfectly capturing what it is about analog that I enjoy. The key thing is that I often enjoy what analog adds. Digital may always be more "true" and accurate, but often the additional analog step (or steps), has a more pleasurable end result. That a vinyl record cannot be as hot can be a good thing, and often is. And as mentioned in the video, the distortion etc can have a desirable effect in the end. As far as noise floor and dynamics, there of course is no comparison. Digital is far superior. But again, sometimes noise can add to the experience in the end, as well as dynamics limitations. Some people that sample to create music, prefer to sample analog source material. This is because of how it sounds. The same ideas apply to how music is recorded. Using analog gear may sound better even if it is not technically as accurate a capture or recreation. It simply comes down to preference. And it should be taken in a case by case basis. Analog recording gear may sometimes have a preferential sound to an artist. Analog playback mediums may sometimes have a preferential sound to creators and/or listeners. A photograph is far superior to a painting in terms of accurate representation. When the representation is an artistic representation, the artist may prefer the medium of the painting in some cases, and you as the viewer may prefer a painting in some cases.
@darwinsaye
2 жыл бұрын
CrazyLazyDave Totally agree with everything you’re saying, but I’m not sure what I said that you are responding to… My point is simply that a recording that has been produced digitally at every step except the last, and then printed on vinyl, is not the same as a recording that was recorded, mixed and mastered on tape, and then printed to vinyl. Some people are buying new albums by contemporary artists and acting as if the artist did an “old school” recording, and they are mistaken, is all I was saying.
@CrazyLazyDave
2 жыл бұрын
@@darwinsaye it is at that point an analog recording of a digital recording. The equipment is imperfect and adds character that may or may not be desirable. Plus the music is mastered differently for vinyl. You can't assume that the end result on vinyl is not what was intended and desigired by the artist. Often it is. Often it isn't. Case by case. Sometimes noise is added digitally for effect. Distortion is used in many ways creatively during recording (and performing). Often digital products are created and used to emulate analog. Perfect is not always the ideal. Sometimes the flawed is what you're after. A vinyl record does not sound identical to the digital source. We agree on that. It is often intentional and/or desirable difference. A digital recording of a vinyl record sounds the same as the vinyl record. Because it's digital. The vinyl record, and recording of it, sound different than the original digital source because there were analog steps involved in making it.
@CrazyLazyDave
2 жыл бұрын
@@darwinsaye for the sake of analogy.... A digital synthesizer is digital. A VST Plug In synthesizer in a computer obviously is digital. If you play it back accurately it sounds one way. If instead you play it back inaccurately it sounds different and possibly better. Say you run the synthesizer out of your computer and through some analog pedals and a tube amp. It will sound way different. It may sound way better. Even a clean guitar. It may sound better on a clean tube amp than a clean solid state amp. The solid state amp may more clean and accurately produce the sound. But the tube amp may sound better. I realize that was a completely analog scenario. Throw some digital pedals in there. Same thing. The amp at the end of the chain is still imparting a sound. The vinyl process imparts a sound at the end of the chain.
@Wised1000
Жыл бұрын
All true and accurate. However, the availability of full 24/96 recording material to the general public is minute. Most of what is available is severely compressed material. However, the same is true of vynil, which aside from select audiophile level recordings and pressings are not of the optimal quality that can be achieved by the medium.
@Bob.martens
2 жыл бұрын
Good analog is better than bad digital and vice versa. Good digital is superior on every level. However, audio is very subjective, so that superiority does not mean better sounding to everyone.
@AudioUniversity
2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best, most concise explanations I’ve seen, Bob. Well said. I completely agree. Thanks!
@mika461983
2 жыл бұрын
VERY CORRECT CONCLUSIONS! BIG RESPECT!
@babylemonade2868
Жыл бұрын
If it’s recorded and mastered well it’ll sound great no matter what format
@Gigidag77
2 жыл бұрын
IMO, a well mastered digital file (hi-res or not) / CD will sound better then any analogue format. Unfortunately, that's rare thanks to the loudness war.
@philipdru9290
2 жыл бұрын
Depends on what the original recording was performed on. I’ll take a first pressing RL of LZ II any day over a CD, or download.
@bostromberg4704
4 ай бұрын
Rather than which is in principle better a much more important question for most is which is better with the equipment yoù either have or intend to buy!
@verntoews6937
2 жыл бұрын
Analogue can open your mind and senses that digital can never match
@andilouis8770
2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@verntoews6937
2 жыл бұрын
@@andilouis8770 something special about the older JBL. L36 speakers
@exponentmantissa5598
Жыл бұрын
The sampling clock actually AM modulates the input signal. As an result you get sidebands above and below the sampling Frequency. But there is a rub, if there are higher frequencies than the sampling clock they too will wrap around the sampling frequency and appear as an overlap directly into the audio band. This effect is called aliasing.
@BigLoxxOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
You are definitly my music theory teacher 👏!
@TheReal1953
2 жыл бұрын
You can argue for digital audio all day long, but we live in an analog world and hear with analog ears. Even order harmonics and the coloration/distortion of analog actually please the human ear and brain best. The best digital recordings to listen to only emulate that experience. I think anyone seriously into music should have both mediums and listen to whatever source pleases your ears/brain the best. That's why tubes have made such a comeback in high-end amps and pre-amps....the coloration and pleasing distortion experience. Yeah, as far as editing and engineering, digital is ruling the market place....mostly because it's EASIER and offers unlimited editing.
@chrism2964
Ай бұрын
Having a preference was never the problem, it was the snake oil and pseudo-science justification for it from audiophiles that was the problem. All they have to say is 'it sounds better to me' but instead they say 'it sounds better because ..(hour long rant)..'
@mgabiel
2 жыл бұрын
faltó el tema del filtrado sea pasa bajos, pasa altos, pasa banda o rechazabanda, en analógica no poseen un corte perfecto en la frecuencia de corte, sino que existe una atenuación dependiente de la frecuencia, pero en digital el corte utilizando la transformada discreta de Fourier es percfecto y en la frecuencia seleccionada. Es decir que en digital se filtra la frecuencia que se desea y no se "cuelan" frecuencias cercanas como sí pasa en analógica.
@Andersljungberg
2 жыл бұрын
There must be a reason why sony created SACD / DSD. maybe because people complained about the treble on the CD that they did not like. the complaints were that the treble was chilly Cold
@92trdman
2 жыл бұрын
The beautiful thing of analog recording, it allowed "some" soft cliping of linear regression sound, while digital signal distorted "click" will occurred if peak level over it's fixed bit rates...
@barryhall7
2 жыл бұрын
If a bit of distortion can make music sound more pleasing then I'm happy with that compromise.
@tanelehala6422
5 ай бұрын
In REAPER there's a setting which, when zoomed into samples, approximates the true waveform after DA conversion. I fail to understand why it's not the default setting.
@mickymalibu
2 жыл бұрын
One thing about analog is that it colours the original recording somewhat, isn’t the point of recording something to accurately reproduce something . So let’s say you record a guitar amp then with analog it will be a bit like looking at a scene with sunglasses on . Some people might like that but it’s not accurate even if we are talking about tiny discrepancies.
@DonRossMusic
Жыл бұрын
Well done and we’ll explained. Thank you!
@stjernholmreviews
Жыл бұрын
As always, RIGHT ON KYLE!
@MartinMCade
Жыл бұрын
I have a long rant I could type about this, but I'll keep it relatively short for a comment here. Every step in the recording and playback process introduces changes and distortion of some sort. Microphones distort, cables have signal loss, tape compresses and distorts, channel strips and mixers add their own color to the sound. There's no such thing as perfection in recording. What there is, is the skill of producers, musicians, and engineers in using the studio and all its tools. And when it comes to listening, the quality of your home system and speakers matters. An LP played on a high-end home system might sound better than a CD coming through my computer headphones. But sometimes those headphones are good enough for me. And I'll admit to often seeking out vinyl recordings, but usually it's either collectible or nostalgic, or things that either don't have a digital release or were changed. (One example I like to use is ZZ Top - the drum tracks were changed on later versions of their early recordings, and to me it ruined the sound. I'd rather seek out original vinyl pressings than the later butchered versions.) (PS. Yes, this is a long comment, but it's the short version of what I'd LIKE to say. :D )
@marcellosalis5063
2 жыл бұрын
Hi. I'm a software engineer and I have to point out one thing. It is not a correction (as far as human hearing is concerned, digital sound is superior and everything you said is 100% accurate), just a detail you didn't take into account. During digitalization, you're not only sampling the signal over time, but also over volume. I.e. if your digital precision is say 16 bits, you can only represent 2^16 volume levels. So, each time the actual sound volume doesn't perfectly match one of the fixed steps of our precision (and in practice this will happens almost always), that's an error introduced in the recording. Nyquist's theorem only speaks about time sampling, not volume sampling. You can mitigate this problem by increasing your digital resolution or "normalizing" the volume on recording (i.e. making sure the highest peak of your signal is sampled over the maximum value of your precision) but never fully eliminate it. As a side note, normalizing the signal AFTER it's been digitalized doesn't solve anything. In fact, it just adds yet more error.
@elkeospert9188
2 жыл бұрын
"I.e. if your digital precision is say 16 bits, you can only represent 2^16 volume levels. So, each time the actual sound volume doesn't perfectly match one of the fixed steps of our precision (and in practice this will happens almost always), that's an error introduced in the recording." That is true and it is call quantization noise BUT analog resolution is also not "perfect" - for example practically it is not possible to press more than about 600 distinctable volume amount in the groove of a vinyl which corresponds to a resolution which is comparable to 9 bit resolution.
@capoman1
6 ай бұрын
Seeing that most of us will now listen on earbuds and streaming is preferred, we can definitely see that THE CONVENIENCE of digital and lossy codecs is a feature.... If you sit in an acoustically treated room with expensive spec hardware, you are free to wax about on "what sounds best." Once we all had mobile streaming on our phones and earbuds, I think the main arguments for audio were dead in the water.
@TriPham-j3b
2 ай бұрын
The bestway to deal with voice is speech to text then back after store and transmitted save bandwidth
@RC-nq7mg
6 ай бұрын
I like both analog and digital. My main issue is the master, or shall I say "re-master" some are good but some are horendously "re-mastered" and heavily compressed. I seek out older CDs to get earlier masters of some albums specifically for that. I would rather hear a higher noise floor than a butchered master. I have some 8 tracks that sound not half bad as well. Not as good as vinyl or compact cassette but definately not bad. The quality and condition of your playback equipment makes a difference too. And although any "audiophile" would lead you to believe that you need very high end gear to get the best result, for most of us a decent consumer grade used deck that is properly maintained will sound excelent. Considering most of us probably never heard a compact cassette played on a decent deck with proper noise reduction is no wonder we seem to remember tapes sounding so bad. My tapes sound great, but not quite as good as the vinyl and definately not as good a CD. 1/4" open reel sounds very good as well, my recorder needs some work to get it up to par though.
@flxmme5635
2 жыл бұрын
I gotta be honest, i just like collecting big shiny discs with cool colours and artwork, but cd’s sound better technically speaking
@davelewis4215
2 жыл бұрын
There is no better analog and digital both have there place in the audio world.
@thebusinessfirm9862
2 жыл бұрын
Great video, mate. Well done.
@RobertWGreaves
2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, this is exactly what I have ben telling my students!
@Jonas_Aa
Жыл бұрын
A cassette may look like it takes more space than vinyl. But how many vinyl (in its cover) can you place beside each other until it is as thick as a cassette in it's cover? Maybe 5? Then I would think that more than 5 cassettes would fit in the volume of 5 vinyls.
@bioux101
2 жыл бұрын
With pre-digital music its quite common that entire instruments disappear. This maybe a lot to do with low quality early conversion. Music played using a computer is often through computer speakers or a single bluetooth speaker, which could never stand up against proper HIFI speakers that a record player will usually be linked up with. Also, the invisible digital file is nothing compared to owning an actual record. iTunes will often just remove music from your computer if the licence for that track changes. Just like water through your fingers it's gone. The record last as long as you treat it well. It takes an immense amount of playing the a record to wear out. Lastly, the option to copy and paste music and build a sound rather than the recording techniques of the fifties has been detrimental to the art of playing that music. A heated rockabilly making mistakes in 1956 makes a modern, highly produced artist just sound pathetic in comparison.
@ParaFox404
Жыл бұрын
I think working with both is good, the source signal is the same I don't see a reason why not. For digital I agree streaming pulling your music is terrible, so make your own server and stream from that, download mp3's and make your own library and nobody else can touch it. A couple hard drives sitting in an old computer tower is all you really need, works for replacing netflix and that massive wall of dvd's. I am fascinated with tape and film recording, and I am eager to experiment with them, but I am not blind to how much better digital is for practical use. I definitely think there is a sense of magic to vinyl that cannot be understated though. I assume digital can play through the same speaker system you prefer vinyl through, if you own the copies on your own server and take care of it they'll probably last you as long as the record, though hard drives can be fucky so idk for sure. But holding a record is special, the entire process that goes into picking a song to play is special, a tactile element digital doesnt have ans cant meaningfully recreate. The sound being arguably worse, the quality changing with use, digital cannot do this in a way that sounds good. The subtle degradation of a record being played to no end is special, only your record sounds like that its not better, but its special, its that little bit of magic. I am autistic so tactile is my shit, watching the tape spin, the record seeming to wobbly and shake as it goes around, the process of putting one on, the sure sounds of a tape machine ejecting. I live for that.
@bioux101
Жыл бұрын
@@ParaFox404 you may have done this already, but I suggest you experiment with playing the same music using both formats on the same speakers. It’s interesting how the compression removes certain aspects and changes the music. Sometimes it unintentionally reveals things that were covered in the original format mixing. A kinda ghost in the machine, as it were. I like to hear how the music was originally heard. That’s part of the experience for me. I do understand how that is less valuable for other. Given your autism I can image that might be of interest to you too, although please excuse me for second guessing you.
@ShaneyElderberry
6 ай бұрын
This is amusing. Order some professional digital/analog monitors with a smart eq software controller and your quality playback problem disappears with either sound medium. Better yet, replace your hi-fi rockabilly LPs with a $12,000 Eastman Wilhelm Klier double bass to make rockabilly music, and you’ll be more satisfied in the long-term. Throwing money at a problem can fix it, but it may seem more ridiculous with time.
@BryanBowser
2 жыл бұрын
I believe all analog mixing boards have converter / preamp (where you plug a mic or instrument in) that convert the analog signal into a digital signal.
@TheEulerID
9 ай бұрын
One claim that I've hears from many an analogue fan is that the audio signal on analogue is infinitely variable. That is not the case of course, as their is a constraint, which is the signal to noise ratio. If you start looking at the analogue signal closer and closer what you start to see is noise and not audio signal. At that point, that infinitely variable signal just becomes random and there is no more information available about whatever audio is being recorded. So, the infinitely variable signal is a miss. All analogue systems have a limit to the precision with which they can capture and audio signal. All an ADC has to do is be able to have sufficient precision to capture below that noise floor.
@henokh.c
Жыл бұрын
Should I turn off audio enhancement like Sound Blaster Cinema 6 before doing any kind of sound editing in editing software? SB Cinema adds surround, crystalizer, and smart volume to the audio output.
@RadioKilla07
2 жыл бұрын
For you To generalize on some of your points is not actually explaining the finer details to people who are new to digital or analog styles of recordings or for playback. Vinyl does not degrade substantially everytime it is being played. Infact using a proper Stylus will have little to no effect on the playback quality. Unless you apply 20 grams of weight from the stylus to the grooves and play the single over and over in an instance.... that is when you will have substantial degradation. If one is mindful of this, they would most likely use a stylus that offers to be very gentle on your vinyl yet still play well after 100s of plays. There are videos of this experiment out there. On your audio file explaination, yes, audio files can be played over and over without loss to the sound but, Hard Drives fail as well, especially when one uses external drives to store music, videos and large rendered files. One must be mindful when choosing the proper file system (fat32, ntfs, exfat etc). While SSDs may be more preventable in losing data, anything over 2TB in this current time is still risky when it comes to data loss. Best example would be The modern DJ that always backs up their collection of audio due to the failure of their hard drives from time to time. Non the less Great points on Noise Floor and Production. I personally use both Analog and Digital mixed in my setup because I prefer how the "Analog nature of Sound" in my Final Mixes. I use Protools and other DAWS as its a much easier workflow. However i dont mind the Analog way as well, cutting / splicing tapes is not something you need to do as other analog beat machines and sequencers allow you to edit on the board rather than physically splicing a tape. I can also talk about Tape and DBX/Dolby or Adres systems. But we will leave that for another day. The Point here is that while the basic fundamentals of the Analog and Digital way of audio may be true, one must speak of the technologies made in its time to combat the issues such as noise, groove wear, hard drive failure, fragmented sectors etc...
@dvamateur
2 жыл бұрын
Well, since at the sampling frequency of 48kHz, there's only one possible path to jump from one sample to another (and it is a straight line), then there's really no difference between the digital and analog waveform. (7:15).
@AudioUniversity
2 жыл бұрын
That's right! (So long as the signal is band limited so that nothing beyond the Nyquist frequency is quantized...)
@dvamateur
2 жыл бұрын
@@AudioUniversity Well, this is where the low pass filter comes in. And these usually have gradual slopes, like 24dB per octave or 12dB per octave. So these extra few kHz above the 40kHz would accommodate that, like the 44.1kHz or 48kHz sample rates.
@AntonSwanepoelTravel
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, you have amazing content. But i struggle to hear you. compared to other channels on youtube your audio is very low. Even with my volume turned to the max i can barely hear you. I have to use earphones to hear you that is not always possible for me. A few db gain would be nice.
@MarioCantin
2 жыл бұрын
Was into vinyl back in early 80’s. At the time I saw vinyl as more of a pain, due to dust management / stylus wear, etc., and embraced early CD technology. Then we got into MP3’s and I eventually lost a lot of my enjoyment out of listening to music, but had not paid attention as to exactly why. Earlier this year, I got into lossless audio and was initially in a state a bliss, but it quickly wore off. I was puzzled at first, but I soon understood why. Vinyl is the holy grail of sound for me. I quickly proceeded after that realization to buy a vintage turntable, receiver and my most cherished recordings on vinyl (mostly used, original pressings) and I have rediscovered musical nirvana. And contrary to your point, it has nothing to do with speaker placement, in my case - as a home recording studio owner - whether I use any of my 5 speaker sets or my planar headphones. Each to their own.
@The70s80scollection
2 жыл бұрын
Yes very much the same here Mario, Got back into vinyl about 5 years ago, thankfully I kept my turntable and vinyl in boxes in the loft, got myself a new good quality cart, and just love that sound...., there is something about a MOFI vinyl pressing that has a warmth and presents that I find more appealing than even a really good CD of the same album, I have a MOFI Gino Vannelli Powerful people pressing I'd posted on my YT channel, and on a Gino Vannelli Facebook fan site the reaction spoke for it's self....
@jamescaley9942
Жыл бұрын
The weakest link in the chain was always the speakers. That is the case with analogue or digital.
@spaaarky21
Жыл бұрын
Great set of videos. Really looking forward to watching Monty's video on DACs. I can see how using the Nyquist frequency would allow a DAC to reproduce the original waveform but only if it was build assuming that it's producing a simple sine wave. I'm really curious to know how well using the Nyquist frequency as a sample works for more complex waveforms. Even something as simple as a two sine waves with different frequencies summed. Or a sine wave with a triangle or square wave.
@daveuk1324
5 ай бұрын
Google search on Fourier Analysis/Transform. ANY shape waveform no matter how complex in the time domain can be decomposed to a set of sine waves of varying amplitude in the frequency domain. That is a law of nature that very few making comments seem to know about or understand.
@scottgordon1721
2 жыл бұрын
Kyle thank you great presentation
@naleenperera1969
3 жыл бұрын
This Video Clips Presented " Vital Information " About The Analog Audio & Digital Audio Sound Qualities & Differences.
@ronrendon
2 жыл бұрын
wow wow wow......this is great. so glad i stumbled on this. cheers. ps: u have a great voice. cheers!
@Slammy555
2 жыл бұрын
I think the main advantage in analog is mastering, being able to hear older recordings as they were intended and that became popular. For the longest time I thought the definitive version of The Wall by Pink Floyd was a pressing from the same cast as the original UK release but I later felt the SA/CD of The Wall was/is the best I've heard. Some mistakes were made early, for example, copying analog masters and applying filters produced some unexpected anomalies or the loudness wars. At one time we had years of experience in analog mixing and maestros painting musical portraits that you just couldn't copy with MS-Paint but we've seen great advancement and artists arise in the new medium. I still have some hard to find items in my analog collection but it's main use now is nostalgia of original listening. At that point noise arguments rule since fidelity and mastering techniques are becoming non issues. I'm not an audiophile or anything, just my take based on my experience.
@HelloKittyFanMan.
2 жыл бұрын
Just because an older recording is on an analog master with whatever distortion and hiss that it may have doesn't mean that's "as it was intended." I bet you anything that those techs weren't standing there going, "Boy, we surely love the his and other limitations that this analog tape brings us, so this is how we intend it!" I bet you every one of them would have wished that they could have reproduced the sound as if it were like replaying a concert (if it were performed as well as the studio recording) live all over again. BY the way, super-audio CD or Super Audio CD isn't "SA/CD." It's just "SACD." What would be the point of the slash? There isn't one.
@atta1798
2 жыл бұрын
anything that was abused by loudness is basically damaged
@SoleilPhoenix
2 жыл бұрын
I can tell that i enjoy and LIVE a lot better my music on vinyl discs than on CDs or MP3. I compared the very same song on vinyl discs and digital formats and i prefer the first
@elkeospert9188
2 жыл бұрын
You might have compared the same song - but it is normal that songs are mastered different for CD than for vinyl. Digitize your vinyl and burn a CD of it and you will not be able to hear a difference.
@hoangngo1927
2 жыл бұрын
Good content. Gratz
@kyleolin3566
2 жыл бұрын
The biggest drawback to digital is too much choice and flexibility. Someone recording can use digital plugins as a shortcut for making a good sound rather than relying on the performance. Quantizing, pitch correction, and copy/paste can take away the human essence of a song. That being said, the possibilities of creativity with digital is endless.
@sailwinds69
2 жыл бұрын
trying to get effect pultronic tube eq because its missing on my new computer any help?
@torog4727
2 жыл бұрын
This may not be the video I needed to see. My impression that favors analog/vinyl is listening to older recordings made in the late 60's and early 70's. There are certain instruments that are missing from the digital reproductions (can't say whether it's engineering with the initial recordings or what) but there are instruments that are missing in the digital recording. A perfect example is "We Can Work It Out" rendition by Stevie Wonder, "Express Yourself" by Charles Watts & The 103rd St. Band, among a few others. If you have the vinyl and the digital versions, such as I do, you can hear what's missing on the digital versions. If someone has a video that addresses this, please let me know.
@AudioUniversity
2 жыл бұрын
The difference you’re describing might have more to do with the re-mixing and re-mastering of songs than the analog vs digital delivery format.
@torog4727
2 жыл бұрын
@@AudioUniversity Thanks!
@rodrigocoronadasilva7729
2 жыл бұрын
CDs and DVDs audio quality are much better than vinil or cassete. Also (and mainly) in terms of versatility. When we are talking about timbre creation, analog systems are the best, and digital systems just emulates the first one, specially for tube guitar amps.
@AudioUniversity
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, Rodrigo. Digital is best for timbre recreation while analog is very useful for timbre manipulation. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@atta1798
2 жыл бұрын
It depends on the recording and Mastering quality.....
@Earthtime3978
Жыл бұрын
Would someone watch a dvd of a live concert if it had analog sound? And by that I mean it’s limitations like pops or hissing.
@sudhendugupte7562
2 жыл бұрын
That was very informative thanks.
@ASU5877
2 жыл бұрын
Gracias por el aporte , amo el vinyl desde hace 65 años.
@meinwarcrafttagebuch5142
2 жыл бұрын
Obviously a lot of things you said are correct. You can obviously reproduce a perfect sinus with just 1 bit or 2 bits if you want the phase correct reproduction and that is basically what a cd does. Then you add 16bit for the volume and you are golden? Nope! Music is not a bunch of sinuses (
@elkeospert9188
2 жыл бұрын
"You can obviously reproduce a perfect sinus with just 1 bit or 2 bits" With 1 bit you can distinct between two things. You can agree/define that a 0 represents a 330 Hertz sine tone while a 1 represents a 1000 Hertz sine tone but if now have to encode a 500 Hertz tone in that 1 bit when you have a problem. 1 bit is NOT enough to describe a sine wave. "Nope! Music is not a bunch of sinuses (
@Andersljungberg
2 жыл бұрын
In 1984 it was very different. That was before CD players had over sampling. and converter with more Bits and also 1 bit DA converter. and the first CD players were considered to sound very bad according to professional testers at the time. such as flat sound
@MrVyrtuoso
2 жыл бұрын
I remember working on Otari and Studer machines in the 90's, tape alignment and all that. I'll happily stick to digital, even if the only way to do it is to go back to ADATs and the Korg 168RC and Soundlink 1212 I/O to do it. Just realize that in the end, what we hear with our ears is always an analog reproduction, not the numeric representations in byte data.
@MichaelLenz1
2 жыл бұрын
You forgot about latency in digital, during recording and monitoring. Most people use dsp plugins now. And with stack of compressors, ampsims etc it’s almost impossible to monitor processed audio in real-time as if it would be using real devices.
@elkeospert9188
2 жыл бұрын
What does it matter if you have a constant delay of 2 ms?
@APMTenants
3 ай бұрын
It’s important to make a distinction between “analog audio” and an analog recording. We cannot hear digital audio, so by definition digital audio does not really exist. All audio is analog. Analog audio that has never been recorded would of course have a higher resolution than any analog or digital recording.
@joshtv4832
2 жыл бұрын
Hi sir kyle, I am Joshua from Philippines I've seen most of your videos and it helps a lot to me especially in understanding how sound system works. relatively, our church are engaging into live streaming, and our problem is we don't know how to sync the Audacity ( DAW ) to OBS. Can you help me with this?
@AudioUniversity
2 жыл бұрын
Most likely the audio is arriving before the video. Try using a delay effect on the audio (with minimum feedback and maximum wet sound). Adjust the time until it lines up with video.
@laverne506
8 ай бұрын
Is it good to buy a reel to reel recorder it cost so much to get it fixed can't get new parts for it
@HelloKittyFanMan.
2 жыл бұрын
I hope people don't get method of _distributing_ analog audio mixed up with *quality,* because a well-mastered, noise-reduced 1/8" tape like compact cassette seems to have more frequency range than most vinyls can. And in that case, it's _less_ bulky.
@etmax1
Жыл бұрын
Analogue tape is the highest quality analogue storage/playback system for audio, but does anybody realise that it is actually a quasi digital system? Back in WWII the western allies only knew of truly analogue wire recording, and it was easy to recognise that it was a recording. An (or team of) engineer(s) at I think it was Uher (a German electronics company known for magnetic recording equipment) developed AC bias and polyester tape, which resulted in a quasi sampling of the audio onto the tape and the quality when listened to over the radio made recording indistinguishable from live recordings. Hitler used this to his advantage sending recording for his propaganda broadcasts to places he wasn't resulting in making it difficult for the allies to target him.
@iranmaia91
2 жыл бұрын
We need records in archives to preserve the music legacy over time, digitized records in lossless compressed formats (like FLAC) in our HDD's for multiple uses (hi end listen, video edition) and MP3 192 kbps in our smartphones to listen. Every format has it's porpose.
@michaelluczynski4259
10 ай бұрын
Great unbiased explanation.
@davidgriffin79
2 жыл бұрын
1:00 Not quite true, back in the 1970's (and even up to the present date) direct-to-disk recordings gained popularity amongst the "audiophiles"; the idea was that analogue recording is a compendium of noise (which it is) and that removing the tape recording would improve signal-to-noise ratio (SNR). The problem with this argument is that vinyl has a SNR of, at best, -58dB (~10 Equivalent Number of Bits [ENB]) and a good Dolby tape recording could have a SNR of -78dB (~13 bits) so the additive tape noise from the tape would be trivial.
@erikkroll2154
2 жыл бұрын
DBX encoding/decoding was even better than that. Often 85-90db depending on the tape deck and the tape quality.
@Bdavis1103
2 жыл бұрын
I love recording digital. But I need some saturation from preamps and what not too.
@samuelsalins8309
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks v helpful '
@Cherr1
2 жыл бұрын
You do a nice job of explaining why digital should sound better than analog. But you don't really talk about why analog actually does sound better to most people. I'm not talking about dynamic range or noise floor or frequency extension; I'm talking about musicality. There is a naturalness, flow, and presence in analog that simply isn't there in digital. There is also more depth, width, and layering to the soundstage. And most people (including young people, who have no nostalgia effect to muddy the argument) can hear this, even on a cheap turntable and cartridge. On a high-end vinyl rig, the difference is blatant. Is it the second-order harmonic distortion inherent in analog playback? Who knows? Can everyone hear this difference? Probably not. And those who can't shouldn't bother with all the ritual, expense, and hassle of analog playback, and more power to them. But the difference is there. A couple of other points: you list the vastly greater editing options of digital as a benefit, and certainly that is true in itself, but I would argue that editing audio recordings has, in practice, been detrimental. Autotune and quantization programs mean that musicians and singers don't need to know what they're doing, lowering standards of performance pretty shockingly. It means that the minute pitch variations that give a vocal performance its emotion can be lost, that the humanity in performance can be bleached away, that the rhythmic inflections of a master drummer are destroyed. Moreover, when those expressive elements are removed, listeners become conditioned to this more sterile music, and those musical elements are at risk of disappearing. And, perhaps worst of all, giving an engineer or producer the means to change anything usually proves to be too great a temptation. The producer becomes the artist (at least in their own mind), and the performance itself becomes buried under mountains of effects and layers of processing. The less there is between a performer and a listener, the better (and I say this as a performer myself). One point of clarification: while you are technically correct about vinyl degrading with every play, in practice the amount of loss is insignificant. At least, that's the case with a decent turntable properly set up and a record properly cleaned. And speaking of clean, you mention pops and clicks as being inherent in vinyl playback. They aren't. Those things are artifacts of records that are not clean and of static electricity--or of actual damage to the vinyl from mishandling. If a record is not damaged, is properly cleaned, and is treated with an antistatic device and dust-removal brush, there will be no pops or clicks of any kind. At all. In the end, the choice of format is entirely personal, of course, and nobody is wrong, whatever they choose. If digital music reproduction makes you get up and dance or cry at a sad song, then that's the best thing in the world. And if an LP and turntable does that for you, then that's the best there can be.
@AudioUniversity
2 жыл бұрын
Very well said, Mark! Thanks for taking the time to share these thoughts.
@VictorKibalchich
2 жыл бұрын
analog doesn't sound better
@ShaneyElderberry
6 ай бұрын
It depends on the crowd. The classical labels jumped unanimously to the DDD method in the ‘80s and have never looked back. Digitally recorded classical cassettes and records are sometimes sold as ephemeral baubles, but classical sales are almost completely digital and CD format.
@pare4918
9 ай бұрын
it seems odd to me that you don't talk about the methods of getting sound on and off tape and how each process introduces noise.
@stunimbus1543
2 жыл бұрын
If I play Way Down on my Moody Blues LP by Elvis Presley it sound great. But I streamed the same song the other day, and I'm sure it had been auto-tuned. So I'll be keeping my old Elvis and Beatles vinyl records.
@KTHKUHNKK
2 жыл бұрын
Nobody could have explained it better then you did. I just subscribed. I hope you can answer this question for me. I made a couple Motion Pictures to the big screen. But I really wanted to put the next one in surround sound. Do you know what Digital Cinema package is ? I use audacity for my audio editor. But Digital Cinema package in a whole different ballgame can you shed some light on that for me ? Thanks Keith Kuhn KK Motion Pictures also on KZitem Keith
@AudioUniversity
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Keith! I don't have much experience mixing surround sound for film, but you might find it helpful to search KZitem and Google for "mixing in 5.1" or "mixing in Atmos". Good luck!
@KTHKUHNKK
2 жыл бұрын
@@AudioUniversity I truly appreciate your reply. I learned how to mix in audacity to 5.1 surround. But putting it on a digital cinema package is a whole nother ball game. A digital cinema package is basically like a hard drive that your movie and audio is stored on. And I think it has to be written a certain way and right now it is beyond my comprehension. But putting something in true surround sound is really awesome.
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