I'd disagree that Jack seems amiable in the movie. From the beginning, his eyes seem dead, and you can see how hard he forces his smiles in the way his upper lip crinkles while he's talking to Ullman.
@derroboter2895
3 жыл бұрын
@Anonymus X Also note the drive to the hotel with his family, he seems like he's completely done with them and the smallest of conversation is an chore for him.
@ofemwa
3 жыл бұрын
he's a broken guy. this film is really about his insanity finally spilling all out. not just in little bits like before.
@ofemwa
3 жыл бұрын
jack was a victim really. weak man. that's why the overlook hotel prayed on him. he was the most broken, worn down person there. all it needed to do is pull the egg shell from the yoke, because he was already on his edge.
@lisasmith767
3 жыл бұрын
As if his wife and child were annoyances at best. He seems fairly pleasant to Ullman but of course this is forced,
@censored1430
3 жыл бұрын
25:45 He was trying to appear friendly and well spoken, the definition of amiable. No one said he was any good at it! Somebody didn't wait until the video was over before they commented..
@JMUDoc
3 жыл бұрын
The book had a Jack driven insane by a haunted hotel. The film's Jack was clearly insane before he ever set foot in it.
@SpicyTexan64
2 жыл бұрын
Wrong
@adamcuneo7189
2 жыл бұрын
@JMUDoc, Even though he had anger issues and was an alcoholic, I wouldn't say that Jack went insane in the book, but instead the hotel possessed him rather. As with the film, Jack's sanity was fragile, and the hotel finally made him lose the rest of it.
@Lol-ik8xm
2 жыл бұрын
Also Jack was a little bit better of a guy in the book because he tried to fight back against the hotel and said goodbye to Danny but in the movie he was just a jerk
@adamcuneo7189
2 жыл бұрын
@@Lol-ik8xm, Agreed, like @The Vile Eye said, Jack in the book does have regret over his past actions, but he is guilty of giving in to his addiction, which led to the hotel getting control of him. I would also say that the hotel is psychic itself, because it seems to instantly know about Jack's addiction. The hotel is an opportunistic predator that uses the desires and past traumas of its victims to its advantage. After it has gained control of the person and made them kill the people they are vacationing with and themselves, it keeps their souls and has them forever partying in the ballroom, which may not sound like bad way to spend the afterlife, but when in reality it is actually a prison of all the people its killed, and a further representation that even the afterlife, they still think the hotel is fun and are unaware that the hotel has them imprisoned to itself, which is just my guess through my analyzation.
@TheKitchenerLeslie
2 жыл бұрын
Nope. The movie is about Stephen King writing The Shining. The horror is imagined. That's why Jack can be two different versions in one scene -- one where he is Stephen King, and the other is imagining himself as Jack in the story he's writing. Watch Nicholson's hands. You see him making typing motions with his hands when he's thinking of what comes next in the story. It happens a lot in the bathroom scene.
@RB-vo4gi
Жыл бұрын
From the very beginning in the film, Jack felt manipulative, creepy, and frustrated/annoyed with his family. It didn’t feel like it took much for him to fall into the arms of the Outlook.
@watching7721
Жыл бұрын
He's more a walking representation of whatever the hell Kubrick had in mind in the movie
@margarethmichelina5146
Жыл бұрын
But then again, he's played by Jack Nicholson tho
@mlpfanboy1701
8 ай бұрын
In the movie it did not. In the book he was more resilient.
@Reprodestruxion
7 ай бұрын
Going cold turkey makes a mean person sometimes especially without therapy
@Immolator772
7 ай бұрын
hence why i didn't like it that much. It was pretty predictable and cliché by today's standards but well i can see back in the day it was so good. It was something original and grounded even.
@Valdagast
3 жыл бұрын
Jack Nicholson is an amazing, amazing actor. He should have gotten an Academy award for his role as Jack Torrence.
@chriswilson3126
3 жыл бұрын
Like the film in general, his performance only received the acclaim it deserved in the coming years.
@leonazar
3 жыл бұрын
@Garrison Nichols I’m afraid you’re 200% right! 😆
@wingflanagan
3 жыл бұрын
The irony is that the film, and Nicholson's performance, were not that well regarded when it was released. I'm old enough to have seen it first run in the theater (would you believe I was...um...-10 years old?). My own reaction at the time was "Meh". Looking back, I wonder how the hell we all missed it. It's one of the greatest films of all time. We're STILL talking about it 40 years later. And yes, Nicholson's performance is a landmark. Genius.
@wingflanagan
3 жыл бұрын
@Garrison Nichols Well, Vivian Kubrick’s documentary doesn’t do much to refute that!
@WallKenshiro
3 жыл бұрын
Damn straight. Everything about that masterpiece was criminally underappreciated. My favorite Kubrick film, and definitely one of the greatest films of all time.
@DanielK1213th
3 жыл бұрын
Men who grew up from an abusive household almost always ends up in one of two ways. One, he becomes like his father because deep in his subconscious mind, that's what 'family' is to him. Two, he avoids becoming like his father so extremely that he somehow ends up being too nice, even to people who don't appreciate him.
@rhaenyralikesyoutube6289
3 жыл бұрын
Or...they grow up to be bullies of other people.
@tgr3423
3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that just be the first one?
@samuelshepard
3 жыл бұрын
Idk who's reading this that needs to hear this, but the third way they turn out is completely normal due to therapy and self awareness, ending with acceptance.
@edenub6791
3 жыл бұрын
@@samuelshepard As someone who does come from an abusive household, I feel like the third one is the least likely to happen. While women usually have greater need of social services, men often find it difficult to access social services as most people do not understand the dynamics of abuse and may not understand that men can be victims as well. When someone says (coming from someone whose mom and brother regularly does this) "you need therapy" is commonly used as an insult and no one actually means it. Self awareness is harder than you probably think too, as men who've been abused get older, they become more vulnerable to those violent instincts we had experienced most of our lives.
@samuelshepard
3 жыл бұрын
@@edenub6791 just because it is the least likely to happen, which is obvious because it takes the most work, it’s still important to note that it isn’t impossible. Some kid reading this might have been disheartened and give up on ever being normal because kids are impressionable like that. There is a social issue with men not being emotionally supported, but i feel like comments like yours are more dangerous than you realize for third parties looking in, because it’s a LOT easier to just play the victim and throw a pity party, when in actuality it takes work to do anything and get better. I’m sorry you are going through what you’re going through, but if you keep an open mind and go through with therapy then i’m sure you’ll find your way out, and when your family says that it won’t be construed as an insult. Which will make them more upset and they’ll have to find another insult, which is funny for stupid people because they struggle with that
@meumnomen
3 жыл бұрын
That very first scene with Danny and Wendy having lunch with a cigarette burning on the table next to their sandwiches is such pure 70's and 80's parenting.
@goforbroke4428
3 жыл бұрын
meum nomen I grew up with stuff like that an I was born in 01.
@monsterislandtales5788
3 жыл бұрын
@@goforbroke4428 where you born in 1901?
@goforbroke4428
3 жыл бұрын
@@monsterislandtales5788 nope.
@monsterislandtales5788
3 жыл бұрын
But you said you were born in 01?
@goforbroke4428
3 жыл бұрын
@@monsterislandtales5788 2001.
@supgaw
3 жыл бұрын
Put broadly, this makes me think the overlook combined with Jack tells the story of abuse in families throughout generations - the cycle of abuse, mental illness, addiction. A couple examples would be even the overlook not having much power when there are tons of people around. Then, the overlook reveals its true evil, "behind closed doors." Also, when the video describes the shackeling and abuse of someone who is vulnerable in order to gain power, I think of this a symbolic of the abuser who does the same to their victims. What do ya'll think?
@sonder006
3 жыл бұрын
Cant speak on the book but those are definitely a lot of underlying themes of the movie.
@Xehanort10
3 жыл бұрын
There's also Jack trying to escape his past but being constantly reminded of it and the Overlook's ghosts being trapped reliving their own pasts with the hotel itself being a kind of limbo.
@supgaw
3 жыл бұрын
@@Xehanort10 that sums it up really well!
@AntwoneAntJackson
3 жыл бұрын
Also also King used the whole Jack Torrence being a frustrated writer as a metaphor for his own struggle with alcohol, depression, and dear I say his own children.
@LizLuvsCupcakes
3 жыл бұрын
Well, Danny does escape his dad by literally stopping running in a circle He "breaks the cycle," if you will.
@bananamanchester4156
10 ай бұрын
I think that Wendy is the main character in the movie. She has the most agency, and she goes through a character arc. At the start of the movie she naively believes that her abusive husband has changed for the better. She is a good person and believes in Jack's innate goodness, even though he doesn't show her or Danny the warmth and kindness they deserve. He quit drinking which is great, but the fundamental change in his attitude hasn't occurred, so the changes are surface level. Wendy eventually learns to fight for herself and outsmart Jack, leaving him for good in the end. Book Jack has innate goodness in him but he doesn't deal with the mental health issues (I strongly suspect PTSD) leading to his toxic behaviour. Eventually, despite making a real, genuine effort to change, he isn't able to do so. He is as much a victim of himself as his family is.
@damianstarks3338
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome analysis of two iconic horror movie characters.
@jewsownthemedia3811
3 жыл бұрын
ANALYZING EVIL : Israel.
@Jmoney10000
3 жыл бұрын
@@jewsownthemedia3811 lmao 😂
@monke4476
3 жыл бұрын
@@jewsownthemedia3811 lmao 😂
@korkmazzi1299
3 жыл бұрын
@@jewsownthemedia3811 conspiracy theorist moment
@StoutProper
2 жыл бұрын
Two? Jack and the hotel?
@ramunematt
3 жыл бұрын
Analyzing Evil: Disney
@silasgreene2479
3 жыл бұрын
Walt disney?
@donz6211
3 жыл бұрын
A truly corrupting force.
@buer_reub
3 жыл бұрын
Would actually be a pretty good one
@DYLANJJK94
3 жыл бұрын
Lol the money hungry company that destroys everything It buys and ruins quite a few of their own original work wby making dumbass reboots lol
@steven-el3sw
3 жыл бұрын
@@silasgreene2479 No. Disney *after* Walt Disney.
@Lshaw89
3 жыл бұрын
The ending of the film - the July 4th Ball photo with Jack having his hands posed like the Devil/Baphomet - gives me shudders every time. It's the most haunting photo in cinema. "Moonlight, the stars and you..."
@lovemussb1940
3 жыл бұрын
You can buy that photo. I saw it in Camden market,in the stables. They were pictures of iconic scenes in movies. I got a quadrophenia one.
@Baphomane
3 жыл бұрын
Its not only Jack, the whole crowd seems off. This photo has a really eerie and weird vibe. Never noticed the Baphomet pose until now. As above so below.
@powpunkonwhiskey6377
3 жыл бұрын
I think the original photo that had JN photoshopped in is weird as the man Jack has taken the place off looks even creepier than Jack himself. The original photo was taken in 1923.
@Quackervoltz
6 ай бұрын
It's midnight, the stars and you
@schneblen
2 жыл бұрын
I feel that even in the movie the hotel is trying to add to itself. For me it's the elevator full of blood that I feel shows the hotels desires and when Grady tells Jack to kill Danny and Wendy the way the bathroom is mostly red with just a thin line of white at the top gives me very "almost full" vibes.
@castortroy7704
2 жыл бұрын
I think the blood flooding from the elevator was to symbolize the hotel's macabre history such as the slaying of Native Americans when the Overlook Hotel was built trying to reclaim their land, the mob hits that occurred under Horace Derwent's ownership due to Derwent's corruption and mafia ties as well as the other murders, suicides and other deaths. I believe the Indians cursing the grounds for the hotel being built on their burial ground animated the hotel's sentient supernatural power with a mind, will and demonic spirit of its own aka The Manager/The Caretaker/The Hotel-Creature.
@mr.clutch9548
3 жыл бұрын
Please consider doing Michael Corleone. I think it’d be a great episode because the character is complex and it’s hard to tell if he’s evil or not at many points.
@stephvandykeozzy
3 жыл бұрын
That would be interesting!
@rhaenyralikesyoutube6289
3 жыл бұрын
I believe Michael is cunning, and fiercely intelligent, but not evil.
@johnallenbailey1103
3 жыл бұрын
@@williamg9527 he's not a psychopath.
@bobholly3843
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnallenbailey1103 He does get wrapped up in his own bit of evil though, especially at the time he orders Fredo to killed. He so consumed by his power and importance that he only thinks about what he's done after the act is committed. He tries to atone for it the entire 3rd movie, but he can't escape it at that point. Maybe not evil evil, but the man was wrestling with his own demons all 3 movies
@johnallenbailey1103
3 жыл бұрын
@@bobholly3843 he could be evil but he's not a psychopath
@chvlk
3 жыл бұрын
Jack is still a dull boy.
@frankieverona5353
3 жыл бұрын
yeah i would have wanted to see his younger years and his background and where his resentment towards women came from
@__-ci7kf
3 жыл бұрын
nothing bad about a bit of well placed pimp hand to put women in their place especially in 2021 clown world
This channel deserves way more views. Putting out such quality so fast requires serious hard work and dedication. Keep it up.
@scrotiemcb5858
3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see your analysis of Elijah Price, aka Mr Glass, of _Unbreakable._
@juliahenriques210
3 жыл бұрын
+1
@dromalloma2651
3 жыл бұрын
This.
@chelseagreenberg6234
3 жыл бұрын
Yesss!
@darylchurch2115
3 жыл бұрын
So much!!!
@JoyfulOrb
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Please!
@DogCult666
3 жыл бұрын
You should have millions of views!
@kimmoreels7950
3 жыл бұрын
he will get there ;)
@CosmoInaSweater
3 жыл бұрын
When ever Jack Nicholson is on screen, I just think of the deepfake where someone put Jim Carreys face over jacks.
@dakotablount251
3 жыл бұрын
And when some people claimed it was actually Jim acting it out as a tribute
@CosmoInaSweater
3 жыл бұрын
@@dakotablount251 so, you're telling me that people thought it was real? That sounds kinda stupid.
@dakotablount251
3 жыл бұрын
@@CosmoInaSweater I was long things on the "subtle brilliance" of jim's acting. It was cringe
@Thespeedrap
3 жыл бұрын
They did put Jim Carrey in the Jack role on some video look for it.
@dakotablount251
3 жыл бұрын
@@Thespeedrap that's the fake we mean
@jwnj9716
3 жыл бұрын
An epic horror masterpiece from start to finish. It has the perfect soundtrack to go along, its eerie and creepy. Even though the story is clear, it still leaves you with so many unanswered questions. Shelly doesn't get enough credit for this movie, she nailed it as someone who is damaged and confused. Off course she had to go through a tough challenge with Kubrick but it gave us so many unforgettable moments. Its kinda funny that her character is a fan of horror films, oh boy, towards the end she gets the horror film of her life. People have come up with so many theories or analyses which are interesting although the moonlanding theory is ridiculous. Rob Ager debunked it thankfully. Plus I like the scene with Grady, he never blinks....creepy. Yeah Jack here is nothing like the book, we are given a clue from the very beginning that he is dangerous. In fact, the whole family is damaged before they even get to the hotel. How can we forget the scene where he stares at them (the thumbnail) its such a bizarre scene, its like he was planning to murder them from the beginning and it happens very early. Oh yeah, are there 2 old ladies in room 237? Why does it cut to her in the bathtub slowly rising up? Maybe its a twin, even the hair is shorter....no idea, this film messes with you. The hotel itself is a maze as well. For me, its just history repeating itself or maybe this is Jack's new book. He did say that "its quite a story" after hearing about Grady's story....so who knows.
@poutinedream5066
Жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of th shining. I think there are 2 old women, that they are the blue dress girls, fraternal twins who have lived on, trapped in the hotel. Something I've never seen addressed is the toilet. It has no tank. Nor do the toilets in the red bathroom. Like the TV with no cord, there is no connection to the outside world. The torrence toilet however, has a tank. And right under the window, it turns out to be the literal connection to the outside world. So 237, certainly its bathroom is a place where souls get trapped, where one runs the risk if never leaving, thus dick's warning for Danny to stay out of the room. I suspect if one looked at the dates, the age of the girls the year of their murders and the general age of the 237 women would likely line up pretty well.
@DurkDiggler
Жыл бұрын
boring film
@TheShadowChesireCat
3 жыл бұрын
I always felt the Overlook just went for the deeply flawed or those really suffering in their own minds, because it was the easier way to get to feed off suffering, pain and vice. I kind of feel the Overlook itself is an allegory for an abuser's abusive thoughts. It feeds off suffering with the false promise of incredible violence leading to a much better life for the abuser. I also think the good use of alcohol as enabling imagery mirrors real life. Alcohol doesn't make people abusive. The abusive thoughts are already there. Alcohol just lets the lid off the iron tight control on the thoughts an abuser may have. In Jack's case, certainly. Nicholson's performance is masterful though. That opening interview, I always got the feeling Jack was thinking those thoughts like in the book. But we just didn't have the view into his mind like in the book. He remained pleasant and friendly-ish, but the tone always had me on edge. Like, it was a saccharine polite veneer that masked for the abuser lurking underneath.
@horacederwent6246
2 жыл бұрын
Yes. And the Hotel was Derwent's poltergeist animated and sentient.
@40GamesAG
3 жыл бұрын
Oooh this is going to be fun! I haven’t seen anybody suggest Gregory Anton from the 1944 classic Gaslight, but I would love to see an Analyzing Evil video on his character.
@BigBurg97
3 жыл бұрын
My perspective is only from the movie and I see him as a deeply troubled, toxic but also tragic character
@senguin
3 жыл бұрын
Analyzing Evil: Jack from The House That Jack Built
@TheInfamousBertman
3 жыл бұрын
this would be SO good
@Anna-tk7ui
3 жыл бұрын
Ugh, poor Grumpy......
@OASIS23-
3 жыл бұрын
YES
@darotm7628
3 жыл бұрын
Please
@gfunkmadness
3 жыл бұрын
I’m in oar of you
@misterkefir
3 жыл бұрын
Analyzing Evil: Electronic Arts It will be the greatest episode ever, I assure you.
@eternal327
3 жыл бұрын
Stfu
@misterkefir
3 жыл бұрын
@@eternal327 Gfy
@SjofnBM1989
3 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@SjofnBM1989
3 жыл бұрын
@@eternal327 you must be a Sims 4 dev.
@eternal327
3 жыл бұрын
@@SjofnBM1989 i am how did u guess
@shenloken2
2 жыл бұрын
The Shining is one of the most analyzed movies in cinema history. The fact there’s a movie about analyzing the film’s supposed deeper meanings is a testament to this. It’s come a long way from it’s tepid beginnings as a critically panned commercial failure.
@jandoe2576
3 жыл бұрын
Not even 30 seconds in the video: Thank you for taking the book into account too! Kubricks Shining might be a good Horror movie but saying that Kubrick did not catch the point of the book would be a great understatement. The book is about the slow decline into madness of Jack Torrance, yet you see Jack Nicholson as an all out psyhopath first time you see him in the movie. I totally get why Steven King was insulted by the movie. Not to mention the role alcohol played in the book. In the book alcohol was how the hotel finally got him, Kings Shining was a huge criticism about alcoholism and domestic violence. A common theme in his book. Kubricks Shining was waiting until the raging psychopath finally loses controll. No sign of the loving being that Kings Jack Torrance could have been, if it wasn't for his traumatic experiences with domestic violence and alcohol abuse he experienced as a child.
@petermj1098
3 жыл бұрын
The whole point of the movie is that it blurs the line if there are actually ghosts or everyone naturally just went mad. The book was clearly just supernatural as the movie is psychological horror. It blurs the line if Jack is being influenced by ghosts to becoming or Jack was deep down mad since the beginning and was always was willing to kill his family at the hotel. Whether there are ghosts or not doesn't change the fact that Jack never changed his twisted attitude towards his family.
@jeni-w7748
3 жыл бұрын
If you ever decide to do podcasts, you'll have plenty of listeners! One of my favourite smaller channels and the growth I've seen is epic! Grats
@tracys4161
3 жыл бұрын
The restroom scene with Jack and Delbert Grady creeps me the hell out every time I see it.
@Xehanort10
3 жыл бұрын
In the sequel Doctor Sleep the adult Danny like his dad Jack develops a drinking problem but Danny manages to get sober. And when he meets Jack in the Overlook which is either Jack's ghost trapped in the hotel or the hotel itself taking Jack's form to taunt Danny he says "The man takes a drink then the drink takes a drink then the drink takes the man."
@MrCarolineiscool
3 жыл бұрын
It’s also interesting how so many of these characters play through the same scenarios as King with his own addiction. Almost like different versions of what King himself could have become depending on whether or not he got sober. The man takes a drink line is a common phrase in AA and NA programs.
@Xehanort10
3 жыл бұрын
@@MrCarolineiscool He also said that Misery's Annie Wilkes was not only based on his fears of obsessed fans but that she was a metaphor for his drinking and drug addiction.
@Perkeletricksterservantofrher
3 жыл бұрын
@@ObsydianShade because that show was a garbage non cannon cash grab thats why its obvious
@taylorsmiddy5212
3 жыл бұрын
This is such an awesome channel. Your takes on these characters are pragmatic and refreshing, free of any personal platitudes or pretentious filler.
@Jargon
Жыл бұрын
25:47 That's such a Kubrikian facial expression. The confused baby face Malcolm Mc Dowell also does in "A clockwork orange"
@chelseagarcia2511
3 жыл бұрын
I saw the movie before I read the book, I still enjoy the movie even though the book's ending is SO much better. Would love to see a Hannibal!
@WickedScott
Жыл бұрын
The Shining was always very disturbing for me as I didn't want to, but couldn't help but compare myself to him. I, luckily never had a family to take it out on, but my life has been a path of self-loathing, self destruction out of anger at myself for failure. I identified with him not seeing himself as a bad guy but one with a bad temper. I viewed myself that way until I finally realized I was alone and no one liked me. I am not an alcoholic either, so my vice is self pity and depression. I've had women in my life, but they start out fascinated with the troubled artist and that gets old quick.
@kathybrascher1910
10 ай бұрын
I like that you use both the book and the movie to analyze this story. It’s a good idea.
@starset4life175
3 жыл бұрын
Analyzing evil: Micah Bell from Red Dead Redemption 2?
@nxxdle_
3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Video game characters in general would broaden this channel’s scope
@joeshmoe5169
3 жыл бұрын
This ^^^^^^^
@johndetheshape3095
3 жыл бұрын
I agreee
@aruen4575
3 жыл бұрын
A video on Dutch too
@notcomedytv8854
3 жыл бұрын
Great idea
@hamzaorakzai3490
3 жыл бұрын
Do you have plans to do a Euron Greyjoy video in the future? I'm of course talking about the book version. I think he's one of the most fascinating villians in all of fantasy
@mrtyrant1680
3 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't be a good idea, since the book is unfinished.
@Ivy94F
3 жыл бұрын
@@mrtyrant1680 I kind of agree with you. There are so many characters who are already interesting, but their arc isn’t over so I think he absolutely would be interesting to analyze once the books have been completed. I am just fascinated by what euron is going to do next.
@gilbertleo8232
2 жыл бұрын
If this were a college lecture you'd have gotten a standing ovation . Thanks for your brilliant video essay .
@taylordavison6849
2 жыл бұрын
I actually heard a theory that the Jack Torrance that confronts Wendy isn't the real Jack, but a visage the hotel takes to torment Wendy. The real Jack was consumed by the hotel and replaced with a malevolent doppelganger. It was used to explain the photograph in the final shot, though the other evidence offered could be dismissed as continuity errors. Some would say Kubrick was too good for that, but even the best fall down sometimes. After all, he wasn't the only one working on the film. However, Stanley Kubrick was infamous for his perfectionism and I'd be willing to entertain the idea that the continuity errors weren't really continuity errors. Bottom line, Stanley Kubrick is God and anyone who disagrees is wrong by default!... Just kidding, I'm not a zealot for his films. In all seriousness, he was a genius and his films are immortal masterpieces. He carved his name into history and will be remembered for years to come.
@MilaWht
3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you're going to blow up soon, you deserve millions of subscribers and views, you put such good videos, so well made with a great quality, keep up the good work, I love you channel
@TheGrogin13
3 жыл бұрын
Watching this and hearing the explanation of the hotel, reminds me of the Haunting of Bly Manor and the first season of American Horror story. Where the house is using the people staying in it like food. Very interesting breakdown of the film and book. Thank you for this, great video.
@kamikazechivalry1264
3 жыл бұрын
Sitting at home with covid and glad I found a channel to binge watch.
@SonofTiamat
3 жыл бұрын
Wait, this isn't Rob Ager
@mattgilbert7347
3 жыл бұрын
Right. This is excellent.
@misterkefir
3 жыл бұрын
Oh.. wow.. hey - nice to see you here. You also like to watch, listen to and/or read dark and disturbing shit from time to time I presume? Cheers.
@Thespeedrap
3 жыл бұрын
Rob Ager the king of Kubrick analysis that stare is horrifying.
@thorshammer7883
3 жыл бұрын
Analyzing Evil suggestion: Satan *[Passion of the Christ]* I like how he was portrayed as stoic, emotionless, and taking on a not so normal looking human form instead of directly mocking he is subtle and uses puppets while not displaying any emotion himself.
@mr.exposition
3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis vid as always. I'd love to see an analysis on the breaking bad villain Gustavo Fring, or even on the hidden evil that is Walter White
@imcallingjapan2178
3 жыл бұрын
Walt was Charlie Brown grown up, there I did it. ;)
@ranzigerkaefer
3 жыл бұрын
Is he really evil? He is just a businessman in a kill-or-die-job. There is no joy for him in what he does.
@mr.exposition
3 жыл бұрын
@@ranzigerkaefer i mean he is pretty heartless and also enjoys torturing Hector and screwing over the cartel. Hes not just in it for business but revenge as well
@ranzigerkaefer
3 жыл бұрын
@@mr.exposition he had a personal backstory with Hector, when I recall correctly. Also, Hector was a really evil person while he was younger. Gus is not that kind of evil, he is more professional and... a businessman (as I remembered it)
@shanesmith2853
3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis! Would love to see one on Daniel Plainview from There Will Be Blood.
@phantom_troubadour
Жыл бұрын
Kubrick loved how King’s version suspended the reality of the supernatural until Grady unlocks the larder door. Kubrick suspends the reality of the supernatural until the July 4th Ball photo at the end.
@buer_reub
3 жыл бұрын
Damn one of your best and most analytical videos!!! I really LOVED that I could read the quotes.
@corazon6325
3 жыл бұрын
What an insightful video and analysis. Does this masterful book and movie justice.
@noxthemc7717
2 жыл бұрын
If you're an anime fan, Dio Brando would be a great villain to analyze.
@dominantasmr578
3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite one yet considering how in depth you go and the fact that the book and movie are two of my favorites! Keep it up good sir!
@dinab7852
Жыл бұрын
I can't stop watching video analysis of The Shining & Eyes Wide Shut! I'm obsessed!
@packerpf
2 жыл бұрын
Having watched Doctor Sleep and how it all connects I feel the first film could, and should, have done more. I think Kubrick's own genius and methods got in his way.
@castortroy7704
Жыл бұрын
And all of the Overlook Hotel's evil ghosts Danny imprisoned in mental lockboxes and unleashed on Rose the Hat (Horace Derwent, Delbert Grady, Grady's twin daughters imprisoned by the Hotel's sentient demonic entity, Derwent's slain mafia associates, Don Vito the Chopper and his bodyguards killed in the Overlook Hotel's third floor presidential suite in the history of the Hotel caused by Horace Derwent's corruption and underworld connections, the first hotel owner, now eternally enslaved by the Hotel like Derwent, several of Derwent's dead 1920's/1940's party guests, etc. were exactly the same ghosts of the Overlook Hotel that possessed Jack Torrance in the novel, film and TV miniseries that Danny Torrance saw in the book climax when the Hotel smashed Jack's face with the Roque mallet and Danny saw all of the Overlook's legion of its ghosts of the Hotel's dead former guests and staff that were enslaved by the Management. All the ghosts that Danny captured and unleashed on Rose the Hat were the same conjoined composite of the Overlook Hotel's souls Danny saw in place of his father's bludgeoned, crushed and warped remains for a face after the Manager smashed Jack's face with the Roque mallet to fully possess his corpse. The ghosts of the Overlook Hotel's eternally replayed and relived, animated past were not just ghosts alone but the countless faces and masks the Hotel manifested itself as but all were one and the same entity which was the Management. The perfect match for Rose the Hat and her occult psychic humanoid followers that killed so many and finally were neutralized by a far more titanic supernatural evil and its enslaved ghouls.
@brandoncard5586
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. You should do one with the miniseries.
@wikipediaintellectual7088
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t believe Jack was ever evil, and I find the definition of “toxic” to be far too nebulous to describe him. I believe he was a troubled man and therefore easy prey for the true evil within the hotel. A tragic figure.
@blakeswanson1322
3 жыл бұрын
Eh he was pretty toxic but EVIL is overdoing it lol
@wikipediaintellectual7088
3 жыл бұрын
@@blakeswanson1322 >toxic There you go using that word again.
@darlalathan6143
2 жыл бұрын
@@wikipediaintellectual7088 Both "toxic" and "evil" are interchangeable. The former is best thought of as 21st psychobabble for the latter.
@wikipediaintellectual7088
2 жыл бұрын
@@darlalathan6143 "Toxic" is far too nebulous to be interchangeable with anything. You're the first person that I've seen make that association.
@castortroy7704
2 жыл бұрын
Concerning Jack Torrance in the novel, you're correct. Nicholson's Jack Torrance was crazy from the start and just went full blown once inside the Overlook Hotel.
@Nugzz187
3 жыл бұрын
P.S this film and commentary is bad ass 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
@thedeaderer8791
3 жыл бұрын
Yesss again this series gets better. It's amazing how u keep knocking it outta the park. Every time I think there's no way u can improve it bam u do it again
@humphet
3 жыл бұрын
Great job man. Glad to see your channel is taking off
@joshuamerwise
3 жыл бұрын
Alex Delarge, clockwork orange!!!
@internziko
3 жыл бұрын
That was the fastest 29min video I've ever watched.. Keep up the great work
@iHaveTheDocuments
3 жыл бұрын
It's still weird seeing the smoking near kids, even though my dad did the same with me decades ago. Saw an old movie the other day with a nurse smoking in the hospital. Now that shit seems weird as hell today.
@coffintears5821
3 жыл бұрын
Both of my parents had problems with smoking and alcohol and they wonder why im so mentally fucked up
@jroe1125
3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad this was in my recommended, found a new KZitem channel I’ll be excited for when they upload
@peterjackson6011
3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis as usual. When I read the book, the movie (even with Jack Nicholson's career-defining performance) seemed like a cheap knockoff of itself. Sadly, most of King's work was too epic to be properly captured on film in the 70s and 80s. EDIT: Would love to see an analysis of Adam Susan/Sutler, the leader of the oppressive Norsefire party in the comic/movie *V For Vendetta.*
@cristiansaucedo4707
3 жыл бұрын
The movie has positives but so does the book. A fusion of both could help a remake.
@AdoreYouInAshXI
3 жыл бұрын
@@cristiansaucedo4707 I'm usually all for remakes, but this would be a very hard film to remake. The role of Jack would be so hard to cast because he would naturally be compared to Nicholson so much, and really, who can compete with Nicholson? Especially in that role. I also wonder if they'd stick closer to a remake of the movie or a proper adaption of the book, which still hasn't been done in my opinion. I would personally hope for a 100% remake of the book, but since most people haven't read it and are fans of the movie they probably would stick closer to the film version. Which is a great film... if you haven't read the book.
@tiffanydennis4227
2 жыл бұрын
This hotel paved the infamous wave to the Cecil hotel in downtown Los Angeles! Now the name has changed and it’s now an SRO.
@clubkid13
3 жыл бұрын
This by far is your best video yet
@samlerf
10 ай бұрын
I love when you compare movie adaptation to their book source material.
@shyonae
3 жыл бұрын
Aaaayyyy my man hitting us with an amazing video for an amazing movie!!
@lirmeaney6255
3 жыл бұрын
Look , I just finished the book and tried watching the movie. I read about it on Wikipedia before on how Stephen King did not like the movie adaptation and later made a three part series of the shining with his script. The book was a slow, methodical and outright terrifying build up of suspense with exceptional storytelling and detail we all come to expect from Stephen King. The movie on the other hand, IMO, is just not a fair or accurate judgement on the book or even the strengths that lie within the story's fundamentals itself. The movie was quick and unexplaining. Jack Torrance is seemingly already semi-manic within the opening interview scenes. There is too little of a build up and lack of real story telling to truly understand what is going on in the movie unless you had previously read the book prior to viewing. The actors themselves though they gave it their all especially under the directors infamous reshoots, were not fitting. Jack Nicholson did not show as a sane man recovering from alcoholism with a family that although currently contempt with their lives, are in desperate need of the job having lost everything a year prior. Shelly Duvall was near brought to insanity with this role but was not the initially frail but slowly stronger Wendy we knew from the book. The movie had too much emphasis on Danny's perspective, horror imagery and subliminal messages. The director said "The book/story is nothing special" and made his own story instead. It has the same outline , but different tone. It lacks substance but tries ever so hard to cover it up with horror and dramatic effects.
@Glassessss
2 жыл бұрын
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 🙌🏾 Finally someone gets it!!! My sentiments exactly.
@youtuber5669
Жыл бұрын
if Kubrick really said that about the book i think he must have been hit on the head during some kind of accident
@KatherinaBathory
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing. I love the book and movie comparisons and I definitely loved the analysis of the hotel differences in "personality" and "motivations". That's usually overlooked (if I may say so) by other analyses of this story.
@bbarrett71
3 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear this continued with Doctor Sleep!
@Mediocre_Comments
11 ай бұрын
I don’t know a lot about this series but I love the idea of the overlook just being an entity of its own. Just an evil presence over taking the over look. It feels so sci-fi and out of worldly.
@petewellman5356
3 жыл бұрын
Movie jack vs book jack we're almost 2 different characters, basically the jack from the book was just a guy who had his demons and tried his best to overcome them and at the end of the day truely did love his wife and son,and the hotel turned him. the jack from the movie seemed more irritated and resentful of his family but just puts on a happy face. Watching the movie you can tell from the first scene he was gonna wind up being the bad guy. That wasnt the case in the book. Not to me anyway.
@whirligig_saw
3 жыл бұрын
i love how deep you go with your analisies , this series is great
@nickasaro8789
Жыл бұрын
I think either interpretation of Jack is valid but much as I love King, I definitely prefer the one Kubrick used where the Overlook just added fuel to the abusive fire that was already there, whether through nature or nurture. It just made him unafraid to take the mask off and show who he really was.
@frankiem4062
10 ай бұрын
Jack has historically played great villains😈
@EvolvementEras
3 жыл бұрын
My love for the novel “the shining“ absolutely made the movie horrible to me. I just absolutely hated the way that Shelley Duvall was directed, her character is not that weak or timid in the novel and the Wendy that Stephen king created is not the Wendy‘s that Stanley Kubrick directed. I’ve had both this and Dr. sleep but lost them. However listening to your breakdown made me go and order both of them online so within 13 minutes you got me to make an online purchase 🤓
@crazierthan-u7571
3 жыл бұрын
You must have seen the movie when it first came out. I was disappointed as hell; the movie didn't even make any sense. And replacing the hedge animals with that maze. Dang. I also thought Jack Nicholson was a bad choice for the Jack Torrance role because the last thing people had seen him in was "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest." The audience in the theater started laughing the moment he opened his mouth! Today's audiences can watch his performance without all that baggage, and as my aging memory fades, he's starting to look scary to me.
@crazierthan-u7571
3 жыл бұрын
I'm with you. The female lead in the movie was such a sniveling disgrace, I almost wanted her to get the ax.
@Superryu200
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, came across this channel while looking into the psychology of Shining! Perfect. You've got my support 👍
@rhaenyralikesyoutube6289
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome analysis as always VileEye. I totally believe that Danny inherited his Shine from his father. Danny has more power, yes, but The Overlook has always affected psychic people more than those without people the same as supposed mediums can sense paranormal activity in "haunted" places. I have another Stephen King villain for you analyze: Randall Flagg. He appears in so many of King's books, but the incarnation of Flagg I love the most is when he was the sorceror in Eyes Of The Dragon.
@UnholyWrath3277
3 жыл бұрын
While the eyes of the dragon form is definitely interesting I feel he should do the stand version just because imo that's the most iconic version of Flagg
@jacko250
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Could I recommend though, arguably the most underrated Disney villain of all time... Professor Ratigan from ‘The Great Mouse Detective’?
@AnthonyRodriguez-zm6uv
3 жыл бұрын
Love it! Been waiting for your next upload. Keep up the great work 👍
@calvinsuu1949
Жыл бұрын
"Time to take your medicine boy....you little whelp..."
@marsaille94marsaille48
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic analysis as always! What about a video on Roger "Verbal" Kint, alias Keyser Soze?
@tariqtelesford9045
3 жыл бұрын
Yesss
@marcusryan9129
3 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on Randle Flagg
@Crueltycretin
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'd love to see an analysis of IT, but I absolutely understand that it's a huge task to read the novel, and that the movie and miniseries give IT itself so little characterization to work with that it almost wouldn't be worth it.
@theoverthinkingalien224
2 жыл бұрын
IT was a good book but way too padded in my opinion. I think King could have achieved the same thing with a third of the content. As much as I enjoyed the book, it felt like there were dozens and dozens of little tangents that reiterated the same general points without adding anything new and could have been left out without making the book worse. Sometimes less is more.
@Crueltycretin
2 жыл бұрын
@@theoverthinkingalien224 I absolutely agree with this, and have been saying this for the longest time about quite a bit of King's work in general, because he does tend to get a little too meticulous with the details.
@theoverthinkingalien224
2 жыл бұрын
@Lunatic Lizzie Glad it’s not just me then. I really enjoy King’s work overall, but the most common issues I run into are stories with too much filler and endings that lack payoff. It’s a shame for me when I read works by him, enjoy and appreciate what I’m reading but then get to a point where I’m slogging through to the end.
@roz.b.7512
3 жыл бұрын
I can listen to this guy all day. Great story teller.
@cuteizombi6946
2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't even finish reading The shining because of that I was crying before it even begun I remember putting the book down as soon as it talked about him getting a black eye I just couldn't read it anymore after that
@0g0dn0
2 жыл бұрын
Just as you discuss the Overlook’s need to feel full, an ad pops up where a narrator speaks on behalf of a hotel and it’s need to feel full. Eerie.
@RonSaari-nt7qz
3 жыл бұрын
I just rewatched Doctor Sleep. Quit reading my mind Vile Eye
@SinisterStatus
3 жыл бұрын
Love this! This whole series is just genius! Would love to see/hear your analysis on Pennywise The Dancing Clown
@pyrokinesis9424
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Vile!! One of my favorite movie killers is Rusty Nail from the 3 joy ride movies. Have you ever seen these movies and would you consider doing a video about rusty nail?
@tongueviciousnemenace8028
3 жыл бұрын
Could you do driver, from no one lives I love how they just call him the driver or in the movie he’s just, called he or him and the only people who knows his “real name” all die I like to look at him as a force or an entity rather than some crazy guy.
@MonkeyKingsformerroomate
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds interesting, gonna check that out
@jonbourgoin182
3 жыл бұрын
At the rate this channel is blowing up, you might wanna start planning that 100k special.
@albertoa.2848
3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, I love your analysis, your videos are extraordinary. I wonder how would it be to have your perspective of Suzy Bannion, from the latest film of Suspiria, in the same way you compared this film with its book, in this case with ‘Suspiria de Profundis’ from Thomas de Quincey. Thank you and Happy New Year!
@DavidBrown-ke8cb
2 жыл бұрын
Notice how he had to turn to the novel for material since there is virtually zero characterization for Jack in the movie.
@josephsouza9599
4 ай бұрын
I think that's because the movie , It was I think. Supposed to be more of a self contained experience and was very visual in nature , I wonder how different the film would feel if the characterizations were much more embellished upon
@grevenskaffemugg
7 күн бұрын
Great episode One of THE most haunting stories of horror I love all 3 edirations and Doctor sleep
@mrsubject1
3 жыл бұрын
Damn, just watched this last night! Love your stuff dude
@J0lisses
3 жыл бұрын
Would actually love to see you make a video about Voldemort!
@tywren2486
3 жыл бұрын
It was revealed in Dr. Sleep that Jack was also having an affair, with one of his grad students, and abandoned her after she became pregnant.
@farookhfaz5068
3 жыл бұрын
not canon
@tywren2486
3 жыл бұрын
@@farookhfaz5068 ??? Doctor Sleep was written by King, and is a direct sequel to The Shining, what about that isn't canon?
@farookhfaz5068
3 жыл бұрын
@@tywren2486 dont care. not canon
@robotboy5026
3 жыл бұрын
@@farookhfaz5068 nOt CaNoN
@divine_follower7775
3 жыл бұрын
@@farookhfaz5068 I do not think that is a valid argument.
@ReduxGalaxy
3 жыл бұрын
So glad I found you, this series is awesome
@kalallenxx43
2 жыл бұрын
Wendy did NOT take a bite from that sandwich.. acting!
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