What I hate the most of Tate's (and others') discourse is that force men to fit in a very restricted role. It's a "if you don't like this you're not a man" type of model which is terribly damaging to men themselves. We're all humans and as humans we have many dimensions and many ways to go about things. Telling someone if you're not this you're nothing it's horrible.
@CowMaster9001
Жыл бұрын
Unlike feminism, which brands you toxic and tries to destroy your life if you don't fit their role.
@Jack-zf3rz
Жыл бұрын
@@CowMaster9001 lol, what? Are strawmen arguments the only thing you're capable of?
@moodyonroody5313
Жыл бұрын
he rips men off in his Ponzi scheme .... he's no even pro-men just pro himself
Жыл бұрын
@@CowMaster9001 Uh? Who said anything about feminism?
@robertblume2951
Жыл бұрын
If trans is correct then so are Tate and the others either being masculine is a certain set of traits and a role or its genetic. Pick one.
@Bizarro69
Жыл бұрын
The infuriating thing with Tate is that despite his mother being the one who did all of the heavy lifting of actually being a present parent for their entire life he absolutely ADORES his father who not only abandoned his mother but often verbally abused her in front of the kids, letting her know that he didn't stay around because she had expectations! The crime of demanding your partner to be exactly that, a partner!!! He wanted a servant and she refused to bow. How funny that Tate has become a man who demands the same of women that his father failed to get out his mother. The role bad fathers play in their son's development must not be under stated.
@julietfischer5056
Жыл бұрын
He has nothing but contempt for people who do the heavy lifting in society. It's all about being bigger, badder, and wealthier than every other man on the planet. Proving himself to his father.
@Steven-ze2zk
Жыл бұрын
I think the main problem with Tate is that he has a black parent.
@julietfischer5056
Жыл бұрын
@@Steven-ze2zk- And out comes the racism.
@dcollins4679
Жыл бұрын
@@Steven-ze2zk He had an irresponsible, abusive and absent father. What ever his ethnicity he was a poor excuse of a man, partner and father.
@Steven-ze2zk
Жыл бұрын
@@julietfischer5056 It was just a joke, man. Don't take it seriously.
@matthewhines9787
Жыл бұрын
I'm in tears right now. Thank you so very much, Cinzia. I am a liberal, white, cis, gay man. I was raised in a heteronormative but not overtly oppressive nuclear family. My father was well-meaning but often unsure what to do with me because even though he wasn't all chest beating aggressively macho, he was a Navy man who liked to work on cars, build things, tinker with electronics, drink beer, and occasionally make misogynistic jokes. However, he also loved folklore, fantasy novels, renaissance festivals, arts & crafts, and had taken ballet off and on for most of his minority. In short...he was from Oregon. The point is, I grew up feeling like I wasn't masculine enough...not a revelation for a gay guy to have issues with feeling like a man. However, because the version I had in my life to emulate was less Andrew Tate and more...if Bob Ross and Mike Rowe had a love child, my role model of masculinity seemed attainable...at least subconsciously. It has been like a carrot dangling in front of me on a string. This has led to a weird sort of limbo where I readily and enthusiastically ally myself with the feminist cause, but I also have some base need to be a protector, provider, and/or engineer of chivalry in the lives of women around me. The way you spoke of men who feel left behind and unsure of their place in the wake of the rise of women's freedom and success, but are also emotionally and mentally invested in that swell of liberation for women, made me feel seen. This feeling of wanting the best for a group that I know, academically, is marginalized; but also never being completely sure if I am overstepping or being domineering is almost like a condition I feel I am chronically masking in order to not offend. it's like a limerence in a non-romantic way. Thank You for seeing me.
@dragonfox2.058
Жыл бұрын
thank you Matthew. all we ask is that men listen to us. we aren't all crazy
@matthewhines9787
Жыл бұрын
@@dragonfox2.058 Hell, even I ask more than that for women. It's not enough to just listen. Also, I never even intimated that women are crazy.
@dragonfox2.058
Жыл бұрын
@@matthewhines9787 thank you..of course you didn't intimate that...many men do however think that we're all sorts of things we're not. And that stems from patriarchal propaganda whcih also hurts men
@andrewkeeton4781
Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a friend who took the bait hard. His girl left him and he’s in a bad custody battle which is just adding fuel to the fire I’ve tried to talk sense into him but he just won’t let go of the whole “I should be able to sleep with anyone but she can’t” bullshit and I’m just like dude what about your kid? He’s started to not care if he misses his days with his son and it’s all just really sad like he was a really great guy and had an awesome life.
@C12341
Жыл бұрын
I hope things turn around for your friend. Tate's philosophy will absolutely destroy the lives of normal men, I hope people start realizing that. Only uber rich can pull off what he's doing and even then they seem to be failing at what matters most because they don't think of the consequences of multiple women and children without present dads - think of Elon Musk - he has all those kids from different women and a child has already emancipated themselves from him. Clearly all the money and worldly success meant nothing to that kid. Rather be poor with an involved father who isn't a slave to their lusts like a hungry ghost
@Soilfood365
Жыл бұрын
The idea that Alexander the Great and all his assembled armies worked on the drunken whims of one persuasive lady does have amusing echoes of Lysistrata...
@Astrianaut
Жыл бұрын
I feel like Andrew Tate watched one day a documentary about how women were treated in the early 20th century and was like: yes, that's great, why don't we do that nowadays as well?
@lesliemoiseauthor
Жыл бұрын
I'm in awe of your masterful understanding of historical context, and how clearly you relate the past to the present.
@CinziaDuBois
Жыл бұрын
thank you lovely Leslie!
@lesliemoiseauthor
Жыл бұрын
@@CinziaDuBois You're very welcome. You're great!
@writethroughtheheart
Жыл бұрын
What an unexpected and brilliant topic! I love that you mention that we need to also bring men up with us. To leave them aimless with their old paradigm destroyed helps no one.
@scooteroz5337
Жыл бұрын
It's refreshing to see a nuanced take on what is such a complex issue. It's not an us versus them issue, men and women are all in this together.
@timothyhopper4956
Жыл бұрын
I only first heard of Tate a few weeks ago, and much as I immediately didn't like him, I was still truly shocked by the recent revelations of his (alleged) crimes. How the hell did someone like that ever have a public profile for months or years without those things ever coming to light?
@RussellTurner
Жыл бұрын
Because they are so clearly fabricated.
@youtherthyfproduction5005
Жыл бұрын
Bribes. He said him self that he constatly bribes the police and specifically moved to romania because it is easier to bribe the police there + harder for women(a.k.a his victims) to get help
@RussellTurner
Жыл бұрын
@@youtherthyfproduction5005 No he didn’t. He said that every country in the world is corrupt to a certain extent. In Romania though bribery is more accessible to poor people and not just the rich like in The West.
@lizjolly5454
Жыл бұрын
@@RussellTurner Why are you even here?
@RussellTurner
Жыл бұрын
@@lizjolly5454 Errrr, because I am a subscriber to the channel. Is that ok with you or not?
@kristinapaxton9686
Жыл бұрын
People point to past empires like the Romans as the ideal - citing examples that citizens didn't need to work etc....they forget they may not have had to work because they had slaves.
@mshearn3198
Жыл бұрын
Tate is a funny guy, like really funny, unintentionally speaking. There's a video where he complains about his brother eating sushi, where he claims that easting T-bone stake makes you tougher than someone eating sushi. He's the epitome of fragile masculinity, a complete clown.
@petereames3041
Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure that was a joke...
@BlackPanther-qo2tv
Жыл бұрын
So glad I'm not on your side of the fence. You sound like a broken person.
@rynemcgriffin1752
Жыл бұрын
@@petereames3041Sure it was
@e.tezani3877
9 ай бұрын
This.. same with Joe Rogan fans who are seeing the twilight of the gods apon them and their ideals.
@sweetrolldealer
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, society makes wanting to live off-grid look very tempting
@jameswarden2691
Жыл бұрын
I love the part where you discussed men working off a different script in a time when the script has changed. Does anyone have recommendations for influencers who are getting it right but are also popular? I'd love to see examples who can reach that teen to young adult demographic without sacrificing the message.
@chaoticreckless
Жыл бұрын
It's not really his focus at all, but the youtuber Ordinary Things mentioned Tate in his 2022 recap and said "Andrew Tate sells money, lust and power, but my dad would tell you that's just surface level sh*t, real men go after success, love, and responsibility. I know the difference seems subtle, but it's important, work hard, learn to take responsibility for your actions and make sure the people around you know how you feel about them. That is what being a man is all about"
@estellerobicheau852
Жыл бұрын
Check out the speach prof.
@wildcatste
Жыл бұрын
My recs don’t focus only on masculinity but they cover it often and even have a few videos as the focus. And they don’t just talk about what’s toxic but what a healthy and whole masculinity can look like: FD signifier, cinema therapy, cold crash pictures, T1J, pop culture detective, and the speech prof. Also Trevor Noah has a video reflecting on/ discussing men and intimacy that I think is great.
@l.s.d.5863
Жыл бұрын
@@chaoticreckless I have mixed feelings about that kind of message. Sure, it's definitely a more positive take on masculinity than what's offered to young men by people like Tate (though admittedly, it'd take some kind of interdimensional limbo champion to get under that bar), but I think the underlying implications of that kind of gender division can still be lowkey insidious. In a way, it suggests that those things, such as hard work and personal responsibility, are the province of men. I appreciate the aim for genuinely admirable and healthy qualities, and in general I do think OT is probably a much more positive role model than a lot of the options out there, especially no doubt for the flood of fans that came from Internet Historian, whose audience base sadly tends on the misogynistic and socially/emotionally immature side. However, ideally I think it best for men, and for everyone, that rather than ascribing a new social script to men specifically in the form of some masculine ideal, no matter how well intended or conscientiously crafted, that everyone, regardless of gender, is guided not to be a great man or a great woman, but a great person. That upholding principles of responsibility, honesty, courage, humility, hard work, etc., is not and should not be a gender-specific pursuit. It's just being a decent human. Period. And we should all try to.
@l.s.d.5863
Жыл бұрын
@@wildcatste All good recommendations. I'd add to that Danny Gonzalez and the Green Brothers, neither of whom specifically cover gender issues, but who generally put forth principles and display behavior that I think sets a very positive example.
@cramerfloro5936
Жыл бұрын
You translating "εταίρα" as "cool girl" is so based! Have you ever thought about making a video on hetairai in general or on a particular one, like Rhodopis/Dorica?
@CinziaDuBois
Жыл бұрын
sorry I’m afraid I can’t take credit for that at all. I said “call girl” 😅 I’m not based at all
@sebdhaese
Жыл бұрын
@@CinziaDuBois lmao, I thought you were saying "cool girl" as well. Your lovely accent makes people hear things that aren't there, I guess. 🤣
@Dloin
Жыл бұрын
Of course the Lady of the Library rips the "I hate Books" Dude to shreds :D very well done.
@coronin8587
Жыл бұрын
I really just don't understand what happened to the idea that we, as a species, should (not choose, but just simply do) treat one another with the equality and respect due unto them.
@FanaticalJ1
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant work! The necessary work of transforming traditional views of masculinity is key. Thank you for calling us all to this work (from a man getting on in years...).
@Matt_The_Hugenot
Жыл бұрын
It's difficult for me to get beyond the words disgusting individual and, unfortunately, man, when thinking about Tate so I appreciate your creating a positive video starting with him. Hopefully it will help contribute to a more rational discourse.
@phuckU3621
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@MrAaroncissell
Жыл бұрын
If that was a thought process then Bravo. Well put together and informative. Thanks
@CinziaDuBois
Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@jamielondon6436
Жыл бұрын
Powerful statement at the end! Yes, we can only do this together.
@sophiaisabelle01
Жыл бұрын
We look forward to more insightful content from you. Keep up the good work.
@kieleleron85768
Жыл бұрын
what a great message you are right that men seem to be left behind when it comes to this new world of equality that we are trying to create. The idea that we need to write a new script for men is absolutely essential and I appreciate that this is the conclusion that you came to rather than the more misanthropic suck it up version that is often heard online
@cmm5542
Жыл бұрын
I wish somebody would realize that it's not about past vs present but right vs wrong. I am so tired of people arguing that things are wrong because they're 'outdated'. Being 'old' has nothing to do with whether it's right. There have been plenty of societies with healthy views on men and women in the past; there are plenty of NEW views that our oppressive. The answer isn't to tell men 'discard all past conceptions of masculinity and invent a new one', but 'choose the good versions of masculinity to emulate regardless of what time period they are from, not the bad ones.' And the same for women. It's not rocket science really, and it's also not really historical.
@LuisTheFilmHack
Жыл бұрын
At about 28:00 you mention how important it is for women to care about the well being of men. I think I fell in love with you when you said that! I've been thinking and saying that for years. Thank you for pointing this out Cinzia!
@miller_niki1982
Жыл бұрын
Men also need to stop shaming men for having basic human emotions and acknowledge that anger is an emotion. Men need to let each other cry, grieve and geek out when they need to. Women want men to be happy and healthy; we don’t want men to be broken, unhappy and lonely. But men need to do the work to get there. I’m happy to walk the road with you and encourage you when the road gets hard, just don’t make me responsible for the map.
@gilgameshkingofheroes5903
Жыл бұрын
@@miller_niki1982 In fact, men aren't the only ones who seem to forget how anger is an emotion. Everytime I hear women say they want their men to me more emotional it's only about sadness. And I mean ONLY sadness.
@LuisTheFilmHack
Жыл бұрын
@@miller_niki1982 Please practice what you preach. Show some compassion to a man who's having a rough time.
@miller_niki1982
Жыл бұрын
@@LuisTheFilmHack I’m so sorry you’re having a rough go of it, I genuinely am.
@miller_niki1982
Жыл бұрын
@@gilgameshkingofheroes5903 Well, that’s not very helpful of those women. I’m not really interested in dating men, but I am raising two boys and I want them to be emotionally intelligent and open with how they’re feeling, be able to properly understand consent, and set healthy boundaries. I don’t shame or mock them for crying, showing joy when they’re happy or being angry. I explain my emotions when they are confused. (Mom’s not angry, she was just scared because she couldn’t find you and sometimes scared can look like mad.) I accept that my boys and all men are people and I want them to function like people who care about others and themselves.
@leftcoaster67
Жыл бұрын
Maybe we should set him up with Bear Ears, what a dynamic duo that would make!
@DavidMacDowellBlue
Жыл бұрын
I have been a fan of yours for some time now. I am now even a bigger fan, for your wit and intelligence, your honesty and for your wisdom (fueled, as such nearly always is, by compassion).
@Strider_Shinryu
Жыл бұрын
Wonderful video as always. I have to say, though, that what I enjoyed most was the bit at the end. There are some really powerful statements there that I feel should be the biggest takeaway from this discussion, and the biggest driver of discussion on the topic in the future. Rather than outright condemnation, some level of understanding and support.
@douniamessaoudi
Жыл бұрын
You are so articulate and engaging it's inspiring! Thank you for your wonderful content
@CinziaDuBois
Жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@Just.a.person59
Жыл бұрын
Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people - Eleanor Roosevelt
@acegard7801
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this perspective, it opened my eyes to make issues I've struggled to comprehend.
@CinziaDuBois
Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@winterburden
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Cinzia, let's hope that sometime in the future all these misogynists can be relegated to ancient history!
@Jack-zf3rz
Жыл бұрын
I honestly love how they claim to be "alphas" and "real men" and have never swung a hammer in their lives.
@trollymctrollface
Жыл бұрын
What does swinging a hammer have to do with sex or gender or social status?
@Jack-zf3rz
Жыл бұрын
@@daviga1 yes and no. I also mean it literally. They've never done the jobs they claim only men can do. I'm proud of being a man myself. I also treat others with respect, I'm always willing to listen to opposite sex, I try to push for more women in tbe trades, and I've actually worked hard manual labor since 12 years old. I'm hard like a man should be, but soft hearted and caring as well. But I raised by my grandfather who had strong work ethics and was very progressive in his way of thinking. I like to think of myself of a hybrid between old school and new school ways of thinking.
@trollymctrollface
Жыл бұрын
@@Jack-zf3rz "hard like a man should be," seems like an ableist sentiment- at best, tbh
@Jack-zf3rz
Жыл бұрын
@@daviga1 oh absolutely, the hardest workers on site are often women lol. My first journeyman was a woman. She worked harder then most men I know lol.
@dicorockhimself
Жыл бұрын
I mean when you where mentioning the things that Romain empire I always remember the fact they drank from led cups...lol
@SlvtSammichArchive
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, as somebody who is very passionate about feminism, sociology and history, this was a wonderful blend. Would be keen on more retrospective analysis of modernity through the lens of history in the same vein.
@macb6528
Жыл бұрын
this was a very good video. you have a very nuanced take
@CinziaDuBois
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@phuckU3621
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@cramerfloro5936
Жыл бұрын
I’m glad for your conclusion analysis on the necessity of creating a new model of masculinity. If certain issues are recognised and confronted by ignorant monsters like Tate, who don’t understand how to solve them except for "going back", we’re never gonna get over them.
@jtl-en4yx
Жыл бұрын
Society (not "women") is what got men into this state, and I am not going to conform to whatever society's requirements for "new masculinity" are because it will be all about control. I am going to pursue a career and the things which make me happy, and if I do not get married so be it! I wish she had discussed the issues like divorce which disproportionally effect men. This is a big reason why many men are rejecting commitment and relationships altogether.
@bluester7177
Жыл бұрын
Divorce disproportionate affects men because more often than not, women have more responsabilities in marriage, there are statistics, marriage give more living years for men and less for women, women deal with having to take care of children, work and do house chores most of the time, also, men cheat slightly more, so women ask for divorce more often than men and I'm not saying women are perfect angels. I think this is a gender role issue that if addressed probably would lessen this scenario.
@rojiblanco299
2 ай бұрын
@@bluester7177 Married women live longer than single women
@ac8123
Жыл бұрын
Unrelated to the video but I absolutely love your voice
@CinziaDuBois
Жыл бұрын
aw thank you (:
@phuckU3621
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 sure
@GrungeGalactica
Жыл бұрын
The thing is I don’t know how us women can help these men, especially if they think we’re the enemy and not worth even listening to. If women have progressed by taking ownership pf our lives through education and progressing their careers and wealth; (like men have been doing this entire time) surely men need to adopt more of what’s been working for women this whole time, being better at dealing with emotions in a healthy way and busting down their own walls of their restrictive masculinity box. But it seems a lot of men prefer the comfort of living within these walls and burying harm it causes them. If het women no longer rely on men to be providers, they need to be better in other ways like bridging the emotional labour gap. I’m so glad women (in the west at least) have more autonomy now, but I’d love to see men work on their own short comings and step up too. Nothing can change if they just dig their heels in. If any men watching this have reasonable suggestions of small things us women can do to help, be my guest.
@staraptorflock3661
Жыл бұрын
I think more men would feel better if they were objectified more. Men tend to value more physical experiences like winning a game or obtaining or creating machine. As a result men are tempted to praise woman for having the ideal physical form however women don't seem to value that as much they seem to prefer more social experiences so what is a compliment for men is not a compliment for women.
@morgannyan2738
Жыл бұрын
my suggestion is for women is to leave the supposed toxic society men have built and create their own
@staraptorflock3661
Жыл бұрын
@@morgannyan2738 And how would this woman society reproduce and have children to continue itself?
@morgannyan2738
Жыл бұрын
@@staraptorflock3661 thats for them to figure out
@bluester7177
Жыл бұрын
@@staraptorflock3661 I don't think that would help, I've seen so many men who have body issues like dismorphia that I don't think that's the way to go, I think you meant not necessarily objectification but more like complements, appreciation, telling them they look good.
@kmcg959
Жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic video, thank you. I'm a teacher and we're dealing with a number of teenage boys who are influenced by Tate et al. It's incredibly difficult to know how to handle it and, honestly, not to be angry when they're spouting sexist rhetoric, especially when I've also got plenty of girls and LGBTQ+ students in the same room. All we can do is try and educate about why this philosophy is flawed but it is immensely difficult. I wish there was an easy answer. At least now I feel somewhat fore-armed with some historical facts to combat the misinformation!
@marrymejohn
Жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity how popular is Tate amongst teen boys? I am a 30 y.o. man and really the extent to which young men are being radicalized is a bit of a question mark for me. Like I get that grifters like Tate and Peterson exist but have no idea the extent of penetration.
@kmcg959
Жыл бұрын
@Bish_Bosch Honestly, I've been a little bit surprised by how pervasive it is. There's been a lot of media hype, as there ever is with teenage fads, but we have definitely been dealing with quite a few boys who seem to be buying in to the rhetoric. For context, I work in quite a small rural secondary, so we probably don't see the numbers that other schools might, and it isn't like every other child is on the turn, but definitely a notable change - I've only personally dealt with one in my lessons but he was quite vocal and insistent about it. It wasn't pleasant! I know of at least half a dozen other incidents of varying levels thst colleagues have dealt with, and this is all just since Christmas (we've been back a week and a half!) On the flip side, there are plenty of kids - more than those who support it by a long shot - who mock Tate and openly disparage his views, so that's positive!
@Gojirosan
Жыл бұрын
Exceptional video. Thank you, Cinzia, this was important x
@thefrenchmode
Жыл бұрын
Very insightful and resourceful video as always
@CinziaDuBois
Жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@Boggythefroggy
Жыл бұрын
I’m going to just say this - there are a ton of people talking about a healthier masculinity not caged within conservative masculinity - and those people are feminists. I know a lot of people don’t know this for some reason but it’s out there, and not to mention queer, leftist and trans men talk a lot about this! I’ve watched countless videos of men going over how masculinity is a prison the way it is constructed and why it doesn’t need to be like this etc but it just doesn’t get picked up in the algorithm for some reason. I know FD Signifier’s videos discussing the manosphere got some traction I believe but I just wish people paid more attention.
@libbylee9722
22 күн бұрын
I have no idea who Tate is but listening to your argument is awe inspiring. The breakdown you give is so compelling and well researched not to mention a delight to listen to.
@leahlynch1578
Жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic message and supports the well being and rights of all people. Wonderful video! Keep reading :)
@CinziaDuBois
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@edwardturner5075
Жыл бұрын
I'm actually looking forward to this video. never thought that I would utter those words when Andrew Tate in the title😂
@danalden1112
Жыл бұрын
Such a great discussion with detailed and sourced arguments 👏
@Blindriverside
Жыл бұрын
I don’t know how to explain why the tone and phrasing when you call him “this chap” sounds to my ears like the most grievous burn I’ve ever heard 😂🖤👏
@Paradoxical_96
Жыл бұрын
As a straight, white man I am of the opinion that this man should be stripped of his platform and tried for hate crimes. This is a prime example of what happens when "free speech" is abused. People like this make me sick, and it's very cathartic to see someone call him out. Keep up the wonderful work Lady of the Library, your videos are always delightful.
@maheenm.k1015
Жыл бұрын
Oh hun, he is being tried for a looot more than sex crimes. He is being tried for human trafficking and succh offenses.
@dreamsofhoya
Жыл бұрын
Such a refreshing perspective. Love it! Newer subscriber and thoroughly enjoying your content thus far :) Keep up the amazing work!
@CinziaDuBois
Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@stormGod9999
7 ай бұрын
very well put. from a previous red piller myself, before things took am far right turn, I believe your perspective brings a lot of light and truth to a perspective that is going down a very dark dark place. woman should never be the only blame when life takes a left turn. so many factors at play a healthy individual can never truly put the blame on one side or gender.
@andreafranke8771
Жыл бұрын
Once again you have hit it out of the park girl! So all well stated!
@elizabethmcfadden3615
Жыл бұрын
So looking forward to this! I’ll always wait for your content!
@bishopbling4115
Жыл бұрын
Was the late Roman Empire as feminist as these people claim? I'm pretty sure Roman society was still patriarchal at that time.
@dragonfox2.058
Жыл бұрын
not it wasn't at all. I've studied history for a long time..people lied about each other back then the same as they do now
@alien6147
Жыл бұрын
The comment section being so imaginative💀☕️ Chill sisters or atleast watch whole podcasts instead of seeing watching tiktoks
@biancaprofiran4076
Жыл бұрын
My cats gathered around to listen to you! you are absolutely right and i loved your arguments.
@maryeckel9682
Жыл бұрын
My cat loves her voice
@norcimorci
Жыл бұрын
I forgot how much I enjoyed watching your videos. Thank you!
@gadyariv2456
Жыл бұрын
This has become my favorite KZitem channel, even when the subject matter is repellent, it's a joy to see a new video is out.
@clwho4652
Жыл бұрын
These people keep looking at the past, wanting to go back to that past. But that past led to the present, the problems of the past lead to the problems of the today. Women went into the work place because they wanted more opportunities, but women also needed to. Stagnating wages meant that families couldn't survive as they had been, on a single income. Today this means if a woman _or man_ who want to be a stay at home parent cant afford to they need two incomes to survive. When women entered the work force they faced opposition harassment, opposition and harassment they are still facing to this day which is what led to the Me Too movement. Conservative culture puts a greater emphases on masculinity, they are also more anti-intellectual, not valuing and sometimes looking down on knowledge and education. We live in a world where education is becoming more necessary even for work that didn't need it in the past. Those raised in anti-intellectual communities and or families didn't get the education they needed, this holds them back, reduces their potential income and increases theirs and societies problems. Through out all of this, the old rich white men who run congress, the senate, and the corporations are benefiting from this. They don't value the employee, the customers, or the people, they value the shareholder, the executive, and wealth. They benefit from racism, sexism, transphobia, anti-intellectualism, nativism, and nostalgia. They use these to distract people from the real problems and their causes (them), to create scapegoats for problems, and to keep people from seeing them as what thy are, the real problem in the modern world. People like this Andrew Tate are nothing more but their pathetic pawns.
@jemborg
Жыл бұрын
Great work as per usual. I really love your work... So enlightening.
@afabfemboymusic
Жыл бұрын
this was an absolutely lovely video that went in directions i was not expecting
@thegrumpygeordie9007
Жыл бұрын
I'm currently suffering by having to research this knob jockey for my own video. Its stressing me. I have to ask though that about 25:15 you say that the average woman's wage is higher than the average mans? I only ask because of gender pay gap arguments I've witnessed. I myself have been the lower earner in several relationships without a dent in my pride. Your account of history in fascinating and I enjoyed it. You don't have to go very far back to find the 'Its not my fault' mob but I didn't know it was specifically women that were getting the blame. I had heard something about transsexualism towards the end of the Roman empire being accused but have made no effort to prove or disprove this.
@mattrosvally9030
Жыл бұрын
I love your video. Thank you for sharing this.
@CinziaDuBois
Жыл бұрын
You are so welcome!
@mayaflici374
Жыл бұрын
You're doing the lord's work here 💖
@justmechilling...
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jimbrittain402
Жыл бұрын
Can I say one more time that I love the music of your voice? The scholarship and information isn't bad, either, but the sound is just a delight.
@Rosemont104
Жыл бұрын
How different our history would be if it weren't written, decided upon, and dictated by a bunch of old, bitter, suspicious men preoccupied by death.
@bruvsss
Жыл бұрын
Won't be much different Power changes a person
@susanfraase3750
Жыл бұрын
Klaus'Schwab, Gates, fauchi. Yeah I see your point..they don't want a future for us do they
@l.s.d.5863
Жыл бұрын
@@bruvsss I don't think it does. I think it changes presentation. Power shows who we really were all along.
@bruvsss
Жыл бұрын
@@l.s.d.5863 Yes that's what am i saying Power can bring everyone's true self Power changes minds
@cmm5542
Жыл бұрын
Such as Elizabeth I and Victoria? Power has never been concentrated solely in the hands of men. More men than women, yes, but we've always had our input. I kept being shocked every time I read about a historical woman who 'was ahead of her time' until I finally realized that there was nothing 'ahead of the time' about strong, powerful, influential female figures. They may have an easier time and may be more of them now, but their ability to exist has not changed. We've always been there and we HAVE shaped history.
@DominicBerry-d5h
2 ай бұрын
We love you Cinzia!!!
@gozer87
Жыл бұрын
Wow, thorough breakdown and excellent conclusion.
@MagicMartin666
Жыл бұрын
Positive Comment to feed the beast.
@TheEdmond30
Жыл бұрын
.....when you eat both pills and just get high...
@donovangomez8114
Жыл бұрын
You fight a war, tell me how it goes
@susanfraase3750
Жыл бұрын
Against Putin,. Bad...just sayin
@Nkosi766
Жыл бұрын
You summed it up perfectly.
@stephaniex90
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful video
@CinziaDuBois
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@ReincarnatedMystic
Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@inkandesk
Жыл бұрын
Fascinating how he describes the flaws of capitalism and then proceeds to talk about capitalist propaganda that you can “pull yourself up from your bootstraps”
@glittercans6786
Жыл бұрын
from 24:45 onward perfectly incapsulates my feelings and thoughts on this subject! wonderfully put.
@spameranne
Жыл бұрын
Cicero's pierced tongue has a lot to say about Antony's undoing
@jessthemess2284
Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video - more people need to see this.
@anthonyproffitt5341
Жыл бұрын
Great video with a great message to close it.
@cadenceclearwater4340
Жыл бұрын
The library is definitively open 👓
@l.s.d.5863
Жыл бұрын
I see a lot of people in the comments saying how great this video is for addressing and validating men's issues as part of gender equality and overall societal welfare, but as an implication that that's something wholly undone by feminist commentators. I don't think it's particularly uncommon, and I find the implication a bit insidious. Actually, the phenomenon can be quite aggravating in its prevalence. Not that women/feminists are considering men's issues as part of the critical balance of the wellbeing and equity of all, in and of itself. Objectively, that's absolutely the right way to go about approaching and dissecting gender issues. But the fact that in my experience, it has been so consistently one-sided in such a drastic way. That every time someone tries to make a case specifically about men's issues, it becomes an unabashed demonization of women, and almost every time I watch a video of or get into a discussion with someone making a case for women's issues, they at the very least include brief disarming and inclusive disclaimers about how men's issues are legitimate and important too, and often intermingled with women's issues in such a way that all need to be addressed together, if not making men's issues one of the primary pillars of the case they're making, such as in this video. Logically, or perhaps more accurately morally, I know this is right. But every time I see it, part of me gets a little more bitter in my respect for women. That they can be treated so abominably in return, and continue to show such a measured and sympathetic consideration for those who do it, a consideration that it's hard not to assume will be for naught. It touches on veins of the standard on women to put other's needs first, and that on men to do the opposite. Regardless of what I believe to be moral, much less logical or productive, emotionally it's difficult to reconcile something that may be ¨objectively¨ right, but roots in something objectively wrong.
@RU81111
Жыл бұрын
The title has me really excited for this vid!
@reluctantsocialist2670
Жыл бұрын
The fact he got on Big Brother is pretty damning to the vetting process that program does
@marocat4749
Жыл бұрын
Its even more for him that he got thrown off it.
@seamusb9012
Жыл бұрын
Amazing video. It's hard hearing the arguments defending Tate. A lot of them claim he has done great work for young men and the heinous stuff is just trolling. They name a few legit problems but they refuse to look at actual solutions (like proper emotional support for boys as they mature). They just continue to scapegoat marginalised groups. This video is a good example that we have been doing that for centuries.
@marcuswalters8093
Жыл бұрын
Wow, Tate's Matrix spiel is a perfect example of selling half of the truth. He's exactly right about the society/reality we live in. No wonder it appeals so much to men. It's ~half~ true. I should point out that the rest of his beliefs are complete and utter drivel and I do not support this utterly trash man in any way.
@MQuadrucci
Жыл бұрын
Daaaaaaaaaamn. I've heard the passion, logic, sense before, but I don't think I've heard this subject worded quite so splendidly (the last five minutes or so... your concluding thoughts)!
@waltonsmith7210
Жыл бұрын
Its jarring and amusing to see someone so eloquent and intelligent describe the views of someone from the absolute gutter.
@emyo7256
Жыл бұрын
Very nicely put, 👏
@Sammyandbobsdad
Жыл бұрын
But Mark Anthony was always a dolt, like before he met Cleopatra. Julius Caesar put him in charge of Italy while Caesar fought the civil war and Mark Anthony was completely incompetent. Blaming a smart woman for a man being stupid seems … well … sadly typical.
@Thrifty_Mom
Жыл бұрын
Very interesting, thank you
@CinziaDuBois
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@kayleenfeher4341
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!!!!!
@ItMeSinamenRoll
Жыл бұрын
This was so good, and the ending really hits the nail on the head.
@heiskanbuscadordelaverdad8709
Жыл бұрын
The last part of the video was the best is not us Vs them is we as humans beings
@neleschafer2496
Жыл бұрын
This was so insightful, thanks!!
@prophecyempresslerena358
Жыл бұрын
Compassion, kindness, and empathy need the spotlight. There's not enough of these things out there. Too many people want to verbally attack each other instead of listening and being supportive. When both sides refuse to communicate, there isn't going to be much progress. In my opinion, it's the mindset of "femininity = weakness" that's damaging men. Women are allowed to tap into their masculine qualities and take positions that were usually filled exclusively by men. They can be tomboys and that's not as frowned upon as a boy that's interested in playing with Barbie dolls. I have heard about parents that want to force their daughters into traditional gender roles for women, but it's worse for boys these days. When a boy is told by his peers that he's weak for having emotions or weak for having feminine qualities, that's going to cause damage. A boy doesn't have to literally be told he's weak for failing to meet gender expectations, because brains respond to information in a variety of ways. This means a boy's brain could register negative gender-related messages and interpret them in a way that makes him more likely to develop toxic masculinity. Society sends messages that aren't always direct and a young boy is going to be affected by what he's seeing in his earliest years of development. Men have to be allowed the same luxuries as women. If we can tap into our masculine side without society judging us as much as it used to, we need to accept men tapping into their feminine side. We need to teach boys that it's okay to be themselves and punish peers for invalidating a boy's natural tendency to be more on the sensitive side. It's fine for a man to take on the nurturing role or be more of the stay-at-home husband type, etc. If something is normal for women, most of those norms should equally apply to men. There are biological exceptions, but we're all human. Biological differences aren't that extreme. Some boys are going to grow up fitting the current standard model for men. That's fine. I'm simply saying the option to choose has to be there. We have to send a healthy message to boys and that isn't happening for some reason. We've become a species that doesn't need to rely on rigid gender roles to function as a society. It's still relatively recent that women have started to become more equal to men. Hopefully, we don't go backwards and flip to the opposite extreme. A matriarchal society isn't necessarily more healthy than a patriarchal one.
@fearlessradish
Жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed it, did she say where we could find Reeve's writing that she was citing? I'm very curious to read it myself!
@alb91878
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a wonderful video!You were able to point out the facts but do it in such a way that limits the offense that a person who wants to be offended can take. ! I really love your Closing statements! They make a lot of sense and they're very open minded but also very accurate! They're angles that. Should be common sense but that people are usually too blinded by emotion to take the time to look at and really think about it.
@noizeemama3697
Жыл бұрын
Where are women earning more than men?!!
@garyarmitage9359
Жыл бұрын
Fascinating but shocking to learn about the existence of Tate and his fellow travelers. Excellent presentation and a real learning experience for me! Cheers
@CinziaDuBois
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@thomascrouchpiano
Жыл бұрын
This was such an inspirational and well spoken video!
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