I hear you on knees and crawl spaces. I did HVAC for over 25 years. A few years ago, I worked for a Carrier dealer. We had 5 bad Carrier secondaries in the week between Christmas and New Year a couple years back. They we’re all warranty exchanger replacements. Absolutely hated it, because they exchangers come knocked down and need to be assembled. You also have to separate the old exchanger to scavenge a plate they don’t give you with the new assembly 😢
@richardnadson2328
Жыл бұрын
My Carrier heat exchanger had to be replaced while still under warranty. I still had to pay labor. But, I discovered there is a recall on Carrier heat exchangers from the early 2000’s. I emailed carrier through their website. They asked for a copy of the invoice to replace it. Emailed invoice to them and two days later they emailed that they were mailing a check for the labor, over $900. If you payed for this, search carrier heat exchanger recall and you can check your model number.
@ChrisbyChickenMan23
Жыл бұрын
Customer seems like a really nice guy. Blows my mind that people keep their houses at 75 in the winter though. Here in Wisconsin that'd give you one heck of a utility bill. I like 68ish in the winter and 72ish in the summer
@JackS425
11 ай бұрын
as an Arizonian It blows my mind people turn their ac down to 72, we keep ours at 80.
@FixthisCD
6 ай бұрын
Be nice to see these new systems you install. The improvements you made etc
@OcRefrig
Жыл бұрын
Good vid. For All the New Guys out there - All Carrier Equipment the Serial number is Read - First 2 numbers are the “ Week of manufacture “. 2nd 2 numbers are the “ Year “ ie: this unit was a 0508 = Furnace was Made the 5th Week of 2008. This is for ALL Carrier , Day & night & Payne products. Furnaces, Condensers & Roof top Package units. What a Nightmare to work under there. Glad I’m in Cali. I don’t do crawl spaces anymore. Got real sick after going in a crawl space once without a respirator. Not too many crawl spaces around here ! I’m glad !
@ntsecrets
Жыл бұрын
They should replace those camp lejune commercials with ones that say DO YOU OR A LOVED ONE LIVE IN A HOUSE WITH A 2006 CARRIER FURNACE? IF SO YOU MAY BE REQUIRED TO REPLACE IT SOON.
@aspenschroeder6117
Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t trust a Bryant fire extinguisher if it was a 10mil gallon tank of co2
@electridan69
Жыл бұрын
Love your videos Ted! I'm not an hvac tech. You do really good work.
@rickdavis2048
Жыл бұрын
Hey Ted. I think they make something called knee pads. Most of the time, not needed, but as you get up in age, I find they are right handy. Great vid.
@sparklander
Жыл бұрын
At least it will be installed properly this time around! Thank you for the video.
@scottdrenske830
Жыл бұрын
Oh man feel for ya with the gravel and knee's for sure. Feels like fire
@robalexander7348
Жыл бұрын
Interesting vid Ted, Happy new year to yourself and the family, i look forward to the new installation 👍 🍷
@jeffsomers28
Жыл бұрын
Such a nice house with crappy install... Time to break the bad news.
@jamestamu83
5 ай бұрын
Architects never give enough room for the mechanical equipment! Digging holes to fit a furnace under the house - madness!
@SignorNessuno65
Жыл бұрын
Why do most HVAC techs beat the hell out of the equipment they install and service? I just had a new furnace installed and I don't think there's an inch on it that doesn't have a scratch or scuff on it! And in the past when I had my old furnace serviced, the techs would throw the doors on the cement floor.
@funny2man2004
Жыл бұрын
I'm new to the field only been in 2 years but I had no idea you could run a vent verticly down. That's good to know learn something everyday
@jenko701
Жыл бұрын
Beautiful neighborhood, this house deserves a first class system .
@joehrlein847
Жыл бұрын
Ted, That gravel would definitely hurt my old knees. Happy New Year!
@thatmeatteacher8662
Жыл бұрын
Always hate it when the van is out of service. Gotta use the loaner lol, but good job man I’m impressed with how few tools you use to fix a unit. A lot of guys lugging their 80lb bags to change out a damn capacitor 😂
@davidcraven277
Жыл бұрын
Old age and experience beats youth and exuberant every time
@richardboggs260
Жыл бұрын
Good job Ted!!! Thank you for the video
@cardsfan-ym1bj
Жыл бұрын
Man that was one hell of a set up they had putting that down in that hole,they made it way harder then it needed to be.
@Garth2011
Жыл бұрын
Too bad that is as it makes the rest of the operating parts suddenly a pile of junk. You would think some modular designs could be made so failures like this can be repaired with a part that simply slides in and out. Lots of neat and nicely run wiring etc. under the house. Customer keeps the place up very well too. I'd reckon the new system will be installed ON the soil vs. into that pit idea of a design. Happy 2023.
@tomtheplummer7322
Жыл бұрын
I’m 63, my knees can’t handle concrete let alone gravel. Carpet is getting tuff. If I’m on my knees, I hope I can just get up and stand. 😏😬🎅🏻
@krisw8597
Жыл бұрын
Great job as always! Love these videos! Every time I watch one of your videos I learn more even though I’m not in the trade. I really enjoy watching you perform some honest work. If your able to show the install that would be appreciated. Thanks and have a blessed New Year.
@c.blakerockhart1128
Жыл бұрын
I understand the gravel comment. I hate gravel and hidden chunks of concrete. HAPPY NEW YEAR TED.
@steelcitysewerman
Жыл бұрын
Some people make it so much harder. Whoever installed that unit must have had a lot of spare time and fittings on there hands
@CommonSenseFishing209
Жыл бұрын
Daaaaamn!! That much rust is a guaranteed cracked heat exchanger. With those >93 percenters flame roll out is always a cracked primary or plugged secondary.
@apa7611
Жыл бұрын
I dislike doing ones in the crawl space or attics! But I do it because it’s my job and like fixing so people can get some heat again
@seandudek2019
Жыл бұрын
That’s the nicest crawl space I’ve ever seen I wish the ones in Georgia were like that. Majority of em still have asbestos tape and no plastic layed + it’s impossible to see with the dust and no lights.
@brettblacken2949
Жыл бұрын
Had the exact same problem on the exact same furnace today.. Unfortunately for the customer, Carrier gives us good business!
@tedsmith5058
Жыл бұрын
Hello from the great state of Michigan
@billr7056
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting these videos. The temperature dropped to 14 below here one night a couple weeks ago. The next day the high temp barely reached zero. Our Carrier 58mvp100-f-17120 (2003 install date) struggled to maintain 68 degrees. We've had colder winter days but our furnace was always up to the task. I suspect that the secondary is gradually clogging up. Not enough to trip the flame roll out switch yet or produce any noticeable flame issues. In my opinion this condition is like cholesterol in arteries. It just builds up until there's a catastrophic failure. I'm going to pull the heat exchanger in May to inspect the secondary. I also have plans to replace the furnace. I did get a quote from an authorized Carrier dealer to replace the secondary under warranty. It's about $1,500 labor with Carrier covering the parts. From what I understand ONLY authorized Carrier dealers can obtain the parts under warranty. Google; SMB 09-0022 for more information. IMO Carrier's position on this failure is borderline criminal.
@kevinseversonandhisvizslas8287
Жыл бұрын
Do you think high efficiency furnaces are junk due to secondary heat exchangers rotting? I’m currently on year 16 of an 80% furnace.
@ArcolaBridge
Жыл бұрын
I have an Amana air command High efficient 90 gas. Not sure how old it is but it came with the house here in Minnesota. So far great no complaints and I have a 6-in 25x30 I believe Merv 15 Plus with carbon filter and a April air humidifier 600 series that I run on maximum in winter time because it's dry as a bone in the house without it. It keeps the humidity at about 65 to 75% which is super comfortable and great for the plants. I looked at the symmetry of the three gas flames and from left to right since it's a vertical system in my basement. The left one which is first on the gas supply is very tight and symmetrical going down as far as you can see in the exchanger, the second is almost as symmetrical and tight as it goes down the heat exchanger and the third is noticeably roiling and doesn't tighten up as much as it goes down the tube like the others. Not much yellow except for a little wisp here and there which gets better the longer it runs. My question is if that lack of symmetry in that third flame which is the one at the end of the gas supply pipe is concerning or not?
@marcogonzales5540
Жыл бұрын
To bypass the 90 second family circulation, turn off at furnace switch, wait 10 seconds so you don't blow a fuse, and turn back on again and the exhaust will kick start
@northwoodsguy1538
Жыл бұрын
You do good work. 👍
@Quentyn73
Жыл бұрын
I've seen ton of the same working fine vertically with well serviced inducer motor and clean vents. Horizontally should be the same. If they have money to burn sell them a new trane every year. Good for you.
@timcat5614
9 ай бұрын
Premature heat exchanger failures are caused by the sh!tty installations. Leveling needs to be precise for proper condensate drainage.
@throttlebottle5906
Жыл бұрын
holy union fest on that gas piping! 🤣 from the looks of it, they only hauled in so many nipples and fittings and were done crawling in and out. looks like the same thing with the exhaust, didn't have nor order a trap setup so slammed the unit down in the schmutz and pitched it up the whole way. probably like: hey Jimbob what parts you got in your plumbing tray and van, we needs to git-r-done.
@seanclark7783
Жыл бұрын
I served in the Army 1986-1990 E-5
@Eddy63
Жыл бұрын
Good vid Ted ... Show the new install ...
@jameslang9170
Жыл бұрын
Even though this model was a disaster still prefer carrier 90% furnaces to anything else out there. Find the new ones really never leak through the secondary. The 80% are another story but only because their inducer motors are hot garbage otherwise fine.
@bryansimon4072
Жыл бұрын
Back to the grind. Take care
@commandercarorack7444
Жыл бұрын
In regards to crawlspaces and gravel, I just wear hardcap knee pads and gloves before i go in. What does the bad exhaust smell like when they get the cracked heat exchanger?
@dennismiller8798
Жыл бұрын
Best thing to do is replace it and install it the correct way
@kennylavay8492
Жыл бұрын
How you gonna get a new furnace in that small entrance to the crawl space.
@naturekid1335
Жыл бұрын
I probably swap 5-10 secondary exchangers a year on these carrier/Bryant's. As a company, we probably do 50-80. Thank God we got full basements here in Wisconsin, cause that swap would be a bi*ch In that crawl space
@bigdanrutherford4640
Жыл бұрын
i just replaced one of those today, 120k btu 355cav. it was a vertical in a well lit basement though
@cardsfan-ym1bj
Жыл бұрын
I know right,where Im at its pretty much all basements,get an occasional attic or one on a slab,couldnt imagine have to go in them crawl spaces all the time.
@willlive6845
Жыл бұрын
The blower motor delay is the worst on Bryant/carrier. It adds so much service time
@aspenschroeder6117
Жыл бұрын
Golly. Rest assured not all of us installers aren’t that inept. The owner of the company I’ve been working for has been looking for a lead installer for a few years so I’ve been stuck in install. It doesn’t get more simple where Phoenix Arizona gets mostly 80%s with 49% heat pumps
@markfiorella7447
Жыл бұрын
Just a question doesn't the heater changer have to be pitch to help with condensate drainage
@kevinmory8720
Жыл бұрын
First 2 numbers on Carrier are the week made second 2 are the year made.... that's quite the install.. never dug out for a condensate pump.. lol
@steveg5576
Жыл бұрын
Come to NC / SC...
@donflash1128
Жыл бұрын
What brand would you recommend? Thanks... I have a Trane ..it’s hard for me to get parts.. thought Carrier would be better.
@jackl9922
Жыл бұрын
Hope my 2020 Carrier does better. It replaced an 06 York having the same issues. If I have to do it yet again, 80% with zoning and screw the overpriced modulating stuff.
@SFBay69
Жыл бұрын
carriers are junk
@Boodieman72
Жыл бұрын
Situations like this are why I prefer air to air heat pumps, ducted or ductless.
@audiosmackdown
Жыл бұрын
As a Wis boy, that install looks strange as hell
@briancarlisi2224
Жыл бұрын
To get them by til you replaced the unit, would it have been possible to plug the top burner gas supply? Maybe by siliconing the top orifice & relocating the flame rod down to the next burner? I realize this is ‘not to spec’, just something to get them by.
@andrzejhajder6405
Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year .
@NoobCannon1234
Жыл бұрын
Those houses are huge!
@Hus6524
Жыл бұрын
Nice video Ted! BTW what happened to your original truck?
@TedCookHVAC
Жыл бұрын
In the shop.
@johnritchie1411
Жыл бұрын
that pvc vent termination did not look good either...probably a good thing they didn't connect the combustion air honestly.
@fatalberti
Жыл бұрын
“double trapping situations”. dats funny right der. would like to see the new install compared to existing
@Hvacmania
Жыл бұрын
Awesome 👍
@jdewitt-pn9kr
Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see that new install
@danwittels5542
Жыл бұрын
I would have run the exugust up and over the cross beam. Happy New Year Ted.
@jimsandles8398
Жыл бұрын
When I’ve installed these Carrier furnaces I always pitch the unit slightly forward to help with draining , I’m assuming that’s what that rust is from inside the unit . The water is sitting inside and rotting the heat exchanger
@natepeterson7145
Жыл бұрын
Do they last any longer? Usually 10-12 years is the norm here
@steveg5576
Жыл бұрын
"Gettin down to the real Nitty Gritty".....nice camera work
@kimballwhite787
Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad that homes don't have crawlspaces in my state!!
@Bob.W.
Жыл бұрын
Thx. When did Payne get to be part of ICP and Carrier? 14 or 16 years not very good lifespan.
@rosewoodsteel6656
Жыл бұрын
Great install.. And you dislike DIY'ers? :)
@Threee_Eyez
Жыл бұрын
I just condemned one of these today! Way to go.
@lijoima
Жыл бұрын
What does the exhaust smell like from a bad HX?
@robertpenczar8930
Жыл бұрын
very nice
@ChrisbyChickenMan23
Жыл бұрын
Do Bryant furnaces have this problem too?
@williamserver4332
Жыл бұрын
Those hack installers shouldn't be in the field. A 5 ton blower with a 4 ton condenser will work but would that house really need that much airflow for just the first floor? I'm assuming they had another system in the attic Great video
@TCFixerDude
Жыл бұрын
Hey Ted, is there anything I should be doing to prevent heat exchanger failure?
@barryrigoni9616
Жыл бұрын
Feel your pain on age been doing it 33years age 59
@philiphorner31
Жыл бұрын
Charged for intake air pipe work not used. Nice
@jorgealmazan8806
Жыл бұрын
How long before you can put a new unit in? Sounds like you guys are pretty booked out
@Livefreewhileucan
5 ай бұрын
Who ever installed that should go back to trade school. What a disgrace
@walkingfreak
Жыл бұрын
We are plagued with these carrier HX failures up here in northern Michigan constantly. I got really horrible for a few years but finally died down quite a bit.
@natepeterson7145
Жыл бұрын
They suck in Illinois still.
@renj6531
Жыл бұрын
I watch Mi heating guy and That’s pretty much Joes bread and butter
@troyallenlive
Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your video. What do you charge for service calls?
@TedCookHVAC
Жыл бұрын
$ 105.00
@sknight0391
Жыл бұрын
😎👍😎👍😎👍
@joelbullock61
Жыл бұрын
what does the odor smell like?
@sparklander
Жыл бұрын
I have a 3-year old Carrier HVAC system. Are they still have problems with the failed heat exchangers today?
@julienturcot8112
Жыл бұрын
Your system is brand new. We will know in 10 years, don't we?
@Brisket9392
Жыл бұрын
Use a plug on the top orifice and move the igniter down one. Any reason why not? You lose 20% capacity but have a working furnace.
@alanm2842
Жыл бұрын
would get them by till the cold weather subsides
@OnusBones
Жыл бұрын
What is the smell? Unburned gas, hot metal, or something else? How feasible would it be to temporarily plug the top burner to prevent the rollout? You'd lose a lot of capacity, but at least they'd still have heat until they got a new furnace. I hope you do a post-install video so we can see how you arranged the furnace to not be sunk in that pit; set higher, with the flue run differently.
@naturekid1335
Жыл бұрын
The problem isn't the switch tripping, it's why. The secondary heat exchanger is plugged, restricting path to exhaust. The rollout switch is a safety device. NEVER bypass/cheat a safety device. Source: 20yr hvac tech
@scottallen5182
Жыл бұрын
Ted, when you get to be our age there is no good crawl space!
@daveoswald5375
Жыл бұрын
Both you and Steve Lav are having truck problems...
@bobologic6849
Жыл бұрын
at only 15 years old that payne x-changer should be covered under warranty from bryant/carrier up to 20 years...even crawl-space installed equipment should last 20+ years...
@ChingusTheOneAndOnly
Жыл бұрын
Could always hire Isaiah and his Dad , they got nothing going on for the next four weeks , I’m sure they could complete this replacement in that time
@joeshearer1247
Жыл бұрын
Ooo that’s pushing it chingus. They could definitely have the old unit demo by then tho
@choppergunner1408
Жыл бұрын
Carriers don’t need a trap on the exhaust pipe
@croyal4240
Жыл бұрын
Payne in the rear like all Carrier products
@njmaugbill
Жыл бұрын
What was the smell you spoke of at the end?
@Quentyn73
Жыл бұрын
The smell of $$$ flying out in the air.
@danklayum4808
Жыл бұрын
You can actually smell natural gas smells very odd odor from the gas exhaust from the furnace
@danieldyer1
Жыл бұрын
I think it is the smell of incomplete gas combustion in the furnace exhaust.
@adamwise7724
Жыл бұрын
Imagine the smell of the exhaust out of a car from the early 70s running rich.
@Robnord1
Жыл бұрын
Aldehydes - Aldehydes are products of incomplete combustion. They have a sharp, penetrating odor. Aldehydes will sometimes leave a metallic taste in the mouth, along with a burning sensation in the nose and eyes. If the odor of aldehydes is present, it is very likely that carbon monoxide (CO) will also be present. However, if the odor of aldehydes is not present, CO may still be present. Aldyhydes are toxic.
@philiphorner31
Жыл бұрын
They used up the pipe pieces they had laying around.
@donflash1128
Жыл бұрын
That fresh air intake must be connected and sealed.
@TedCookHVAC
Жыл бұрын
No sir.
@weswg
Жыл бұрын
That needs a package unit
@deanatkins988
Жыл бұрын
Nope. I would diagnose it charge a diagnostic fee and walk away. That furnace does not belong under that house.
@Clamjammer
Жыл бұрын
Can you actually run the flue like you said? I never knew that. I get the concept but that seems way wrong,against code, not per manufacturer… Enlighten me!
@WhateverwecancatchwithJC25
Жыл бұрын
Smell like money those pain , carriers and bryan they like to plug the heat exchangers
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