Great review, and you made very valid points. I pretty much agreed with all of them, so I would say that! I'm especially glad you picked up on the lack of science, which is something that irked me too. Growing up with Classic Who fired my lifelong passion for science, studying it at school and university. Sadly, I'm just not getting that from RTD2 so far, to the extent that I even found the idea of UNIT having a 13 year-old Scientific Adviser totally ridiculous. The way RTD wrote Morris - and his predecessor Shirley - just didn't convince me that they were scientists. Compare and contrast with Osgood and Liz Shaw. Even Malcolm in "Planet of the Dead" was a more credible boffin, although the wonderful Lee Evans played up the comic/eccentric aspects of his character. I look forward to more of your reviews in future. Keep up the good work!
@cafecrashdown
Ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@Latriise
Ай бұрын
Great points. You articulated something I hadn't consciously thought of. How less believable the UNIT scientific advisors are in this new era. I loved Malcolm in the "Planet of the Dead" fanboying over talking to the Doctor (and frantically spouting science back to him). And even Osgood in her Tom Baker scarf was super charming. They felt like real people (outside of their scientific credentials) that were intrigued by the Doctor and might end up working somewhere in UNIT.
@bobsherwood3542
Ай бұрын
I do miss the 13 episode seasons, we did not get a lot of time with Ruby and the Doctor, actually seeing them having adventures on other worlds and seeing more of how they both work together. The Doctor working things out, science and so forth.
@cafecrashdown
Ай бұрын
Agreed!
@mugglescakesniffer3943
Ай бұрын
Ok... so all we need is the Doctor to regenerate so that he looks like Ncuti's Doctor with the Bravery of Hartnell, Troughton, Pertwee, Baker, Davison, Colin Baker, McCoy, McGann, Eccleston, Tennant, Smith and Capaldi and the perspective of Whittaker in addition to the bravery. Ok, having emotions is fine, crying every two seconds is NOT the Doctor. HE or SHE is the one that keeps us safe from Sutek or the Daleks or the Cybermen. The Doctor's companions are doing what he is supposed to be doing. The fans hid behind the couch and the Doctor saves the day.
@Pharaohred
Ай бұрын
There were so many issues with the new season. Rant incoming. Space Babies was just too childish for a doctor who audience. Those kinds of fart and bogie jokes barely worked in the SJA, a show literally aimed at kids. The story had basially no substance to it apart from a hastily done Abortion commentary halfway through. Devil's Chord wasted a decent chunk of its runtime on a repetative musical number that didnt need to be there, and trying to explain to Ruby who the gods are, since RTD's new "20-30year progressive american audience" dont have that context. People are praising Jinx's performance, even though he just acts like every other Drag Queen on tv. BOOM sounds good on paper, until you realise you put the protagonist out of action for the entire story, threatening us with... the death of the protagonist in episode 3 of his first season? We know thats not going to happen. There are no stakes in the entire episode. They've done the corporate overlord commentary before, and have done it better before. So the episode really just doesnt stand out. 73 Yards starts off pretty strong. I don't mind a Doctor-lite episode, and when Ruby is in the pub/hotel in wales it has this great claustrophobic horror style which is pretty much instantly ditched and then the entire episode shifts focus to its political messaging. We also know, just like with epsiode 3, that there are zero stakes, since as soon as they start aging Ruby, we know its all getting undone by episodes end. We wasted an entire episode of the shortest season in Doctor Who history that needed to be used to further one or both of our protagonists, but instead its all literally undone by the end, leaving us exactly where we started. Dot and Bubble is a bland stupid story that's more or less banking on you being "progressive enough" to notice slight hints of racist tones to actually get invested in the story. Tones that I and nobody I know actually picked up on, since we don't give two shits about the skin colour of actors. It's not an investing point for me, so all that racial messaging went right over my head, so when RTD hits you over the head with it at the end, it feels like its coming out of nowhere. Ncuti and Millie give great performances in the last few minutes, but for most of the story they're completely irrelevant. Not to mention the massive plot hole of why the device is creating an army of maneating slugs when they can just... fling themselves through everyones brains? If you ignore the racial messaging, the story is just fucking terrible. Rogue is a more standard doctor who story, but get out of here with the dumbass falling in love angle they give 15 and Rogue. The Doctor doesnt go around falling in love with strangers, and when he does, it's not going to be with bounty hunters who literally kill people for a living. That's so out of character its actually ridiculous. Episode 7 is a waste of an episode entirely. Nobody does anything for the entire plot, only to waste the last half of the episode revealing a 50 year old villain that the "20-30 year progressive american fans" wont have any fucking context for. RTD and CO went on the media circuit austracising old fans, and then wastes a full episode on a huge reveal that means nothing to the people he's apparently writing the show for! Episode 8 was just RTD at his usual stuff. Setting ridiculous stakes that you know are going to be Deus Ex Machinad to the point where it never happened in the first place. His big bad ancient monster that is apparently more dangerous than the Daleks is defeated via hithcing him to the back of his truck and driving full speed down a road. He kills the greatest threat in history... via dragging death. And this whole "What happens when you bring death to death?" angle is the biggest asspull ive ever seen, and thats saying a lot from an RTD finale. There is so much more wrong with the season than just this. I havent touched upon the complete lack of characterisation for Ruby, or the lack of bond between them making the goodbye feel hollow. Or the mother being nobody making absolutely no sense, or even the fact that when the protagonist cries in literally every single episode, then its impossible to get emotional investement in anything that elicits that reaction. Just AGH.
@octosalias5785
Ай бұрын
I don't think Disney understands that different IP require different structure. 8 episodes became a sweet spot for a season arc. But it fumbles with shows that are episodic with a season mystery, its not enough time. X-Files, Star Trek, etc etc would be crap at 8 episodes a season (unless its a self contained arc like Picard Season 3)
@cafecrashdown
Ай бұрын
@@octosalias5785 absolutely! Great point!
@tomnorton4277
Ай бұрын
Ruby was the only good thing about this season, aside from maybe bringing back Gabriel Woolf as Sutekh. However, considering how badly Retarded Trash Davies butchered Sutekh, Woolf's voice acting couldn't save him no matter how chilling it was. If you want to listen to Woolf working with great scripts, watch Pyramids of Mars, The Impossible Planet and The Satan Pit.
@cafecrashdown
Ай бұрын
Great episodes you mentioned there!
@NewtonDKC
Ай бұрын
Old time Whovian here, grew up with Who, starting Tom Baker in the Classic Series and though my interest wanes if it’s a Doctor/era I don’t particularly like, I have always been a fan! I considered RTD’s first run at Who to truly be the Golden Age of Doctor Who, with Torchwood, Sarah Jane Adventures (and a non-BBC K9 series for heaven’s sake!). When they all came together in Series 4 I truly thought we’d never see better. the 50th was dang close if not better! I started losing interest w Peter Capaldi’s first series. What had usually been a fairly well written Science fiction series now was just idiotic and had zero respect for science Or had lost any intellectual guards to keep the “science” in “science fiction”. The insipid story about the Moon being an egg is the first time I had EVER shut off an episode of Doctor Who (okay for like 30 seconds, but it was embarrassingly stupid! Gravitational anomalies on the moon that are so pin point precise that it can make someone in the same room float away but not the person who then runs under them to catch them! The lights on -actually I’m going to resist listing all the utterly ridiculous points or i’ll have a longer post tha this will be. Capaldi’s final season was IMO pretty good and redeemed his era. The Jodie Doctor era was awful as well, though again her final series was much better than the first 2. When I heard RTD was returning I was absolutely manic with happiness! I loved a NCuti Gatwa in Sex Education so I was all in for the new era and truly believed we were in for the Golden Age of Who part 2. It never EVER occurred to me RTD would fail. But he did. The writing is absolutely terrible this series. It is like bad fan fic, like first draft ideas never revised, never developed, just rush rush rush glitz and glamor and keep people,occupied before they think about things and question it and realize how none of it makes any sense! WTF happened? I swear if someone told me RTD had been in a coma and they used a ghost writer and a hastily jotted outline then I would finally have an explanation that makes sense for how bad this series was. I agree the Doctor seem totally out of character with his amorous forwardness in Rogue and had he acted that way toward a woman it would have seemed predatory! And no, I am Not being a homophobe, I play for that team so to speak, but I really feel the Doctor is alien and should be asexual, crushes on companions or caring for them deeply is one thing,,actively trying to bed so,done just seems completely out of character! I know RTD didn’t write this episode but still, use companions to explore sexual issues, the Doctor shouldn’t venture there. I didn’t like any of the stories. Or rather there were some less problematic than others, but honestly NONE of them made sense, one were explained and things just happened because RTD writes it that way and nothing develops in any natural or believable way. Such a huge disappointment and damaging to the series as a whole. F-
@cafecrashdown
Ай бұрын
@@NewtonDKC love this feedback. I 100% agree with you here. Nailed it with the fan fiction.
@itzsheeltime6440
Ай бұрын
There was an episode where the tardis become a women (sexy) still confused how sukeh didn’t become alive at that point.
@cafecrashdown
Ай бұрын
😂
@mephosto
Ай бұрын
it's adds a new level of failure because it's not some obscure episode, but the one written by neil gaiman.
@jeremyfee
Ай бұрын
I agree with your analysis and discussion here. Peace.
@cafecrashdown
Ай бұрын
Thanks Jeremy!
@kennyblack1
Ай бұрын
season was good but finale was so bad. giving death to death for resurrection is stupid :(
@cafecrashdown
Ай бұрын
Yeah I’m still scratching my head on that one. At first I was like, “yeah okay that’s cool” but on a rewatch I’m not feeling the wrap up of sutekh
@binrotheheretic8174
Ай бұрын
@@cafecrashdownplus thinking about it they didn't cross the void - so Rose is definitely dead now then ... 🤣
@cafecrashdown
Ай бұрын
@@binrotheheretic8174 oh shit you’re right 😂
@binrotheheretic8174
Ай бұрын
@@cafecrashdown i ve just thought about it further - also means Romana is dead because she would have died in the pocket universe before getting back to Gallifrey 😮 - which also means she's not mrs flood.....
@cafecrashdown
Ай бұрын
@@binrotheheretic8174 nice point!
@GamingWithMichael2
Ай бұрын
actully i think this season is better the the flux
@cafecrashdown
Ай бұрын
I’ll have to rewatch the whole flux storyline again! It’s been awhile. So unfortunate for Jodi because I enjoyed Jodi a lot but a lot of her storylines were a miss for me.
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