He is wise . He is educated. He is brilliant, smart and very intellectual.
@pmm7268
3 жыл бұрын
This statement is new criteria of modern caste.
@123xyzabccba
3 жыл бұрын
@@pmm7268 what’s modern caste ???
@pmm7268
3 жыл бұрын
@@123xyzabccba academics above non academics
@pmm7268
3 жыл бұрын
@@123xyzabccba intellectuals above non-intellectuals.... smart above non smart... and the same getting inherited... this was & is caste perpetuation...
@ashwinkr4770
3 жыл бұрын
@@pmm7268 now you have a problem with an educated Dalit? Mr "Menon" laughable!
@faithmediafellowship489
3 жыл бұрын
Important issue indeed. Only the oppressed ones have the true feeling as to how hurtful it is to be discriminated and deprived.
@globalgopal5500
Жыл бұрын
Suraj you are raising pertinent questions.caste is reality of India
@Pranjan1277
3 жыл бұрын
The wire please keep inviting him so that we can learn lots of things
@deoman99
Ай бұрын
suraj does not make any sense whatsoever
@kabiramalhar2189
3 жыл бұрын
2:41 Q1: Why do you make me pay for the atrocities that were done by my ancestors? 8:02 Q2: Upper Castes includes all the FCs - why do you use the term "Brahminical" then? 10:11 Q3: Caste is found in all religions but why are only Hindus being targeted? 12:16 Q4: Isn't class the real differentiator today and not caste? 15:28 Q5: The violence that Dalits face often comes from the OBC community. Yet caste activists target brahmins. Why are OBCs not called out? 18:20 Q6: I treat my house help like family. Why do you accuse me of being casteist? 21:50 Q7: I don't believe in caste, I don't even use my caste surname. How could I be among the oppressors? 25:12 Q8: It's not always about caste at all, but I've noticed that being from the same community often makes for an easier marriage. It is culture. 28:16 Q9: How do you manage to connect every single thing with caste? 31:51 Q10: If you want me to engage with caste, you have to stop being so abrasive in your tone.
@amritbansal2119
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful initiative!! Proud to be a supporter of the wire
@padmakarlamghare6597
3 жыл бұрын
I must thank T M Krishna for discussing the caste problems openly in media. We need more such debates on television channels with more and more participation from the upper caste intellectuals. Society cannot just ignore this age-old problem which is the biggest impediment in India's progress.
@shakuntalalivneh8742
3 жыл бұрын
Padmaker Lamghare. You are absolutely right. Caste is the biggest impediment to progress in India. A major shift away from Casteism needs to take place if we are to progress both culturally ( humanistically) as well as economically. Casteism results in bigotry , ignorance and cultural backwardness.
@123xyzabccba
3 жыл бұрын
Merit in this country is the biggest MYTH ; it got killed the day the cunning bamman Dronacharya made Eklavya cut off his thumb - as gurudakshina to a ‘guru’ who hd not even taught Eklavya - and thereby decimated any competition to the mediocre Arjun ....Modern India hasn’t shed itself of that inglorious legacy as it still continues to honour its sports achiever’s by awards instituted in the names of the fraudulent coach Dronacharya and Arjun the overrated archer....
@yogitasharma9120
3 жыл бұрын
👍
@midwings00
2 жыл бұрын
Things like these should be discussed..but nobody does it. There are no heroes in Mahabharata and Ramayana but for some reason we are taught that its about just the demons and Kauravas. We never get any good explanation for things like why Rama had to exile himself for a bad faith promise! Why he forced his wife to exile because of rumours!!! Etc so many questions but its all about how Kauravas are bad and Rama is good ..
@123xyzabccba
2 жыл бұрын
@@midwings00 ; so now is the time to discuss n expose this bammanical-ploy in which caste-loving gods were created to provide sanctity to the sin called casteism …
@123xyzabccba
2 жыл бұрын
@@midwings00 : ..it’s not just that, all along we were also told that it were the British who divided and ruled India but these ppl conveniently gloss over the fact that it were the bammans who divided Indians into thousands of castes n managed to rule over Bahujans for 1000s of years …
@Kds140
Жыл бұрын
Ok you r right then why dont we completely abolish reservations and let the only talent come to jobs or universities.. right? So that no talented eklavya from UC or LC will be discriminated.
@sehbakhan1814
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Amazing … Thank U … Have to rewatch several times to digest and truly comprehend …
@prahladhmurali621
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant questions and answers which we come through in every day life. Thanks for this Mr. Krishna and Dr Suraj
@kancharlaSar1king
3 жыл бұрын
I think KZitem democratised the human lives by bringing into light many issues. I feel uncomfortable when some exposed my previlages and felt liberated when I got saved from abuse of castism. Kudos to old and new leaders like Ambedkar and future visionaries like suraj. I feel main stream media need to run special edition everyday on caste attrocities and injustices. If brothers and sisters of India fail and suffers then how can we call Indian truley a great nation .
@debanjalihota4382
3 жыл бұрын
Long live Suraj....the brightest mind....God bless u. My Respect to Krishna for creating such an excellent discussion. Thnx a lot Wire..many thnx.
@ravisundaram3431
3 жыл бұрын
Dr Suraj is very comfortable using the term brahminical. He has his own definition for the term that includes all forms of discrimination and all prejudices. But for most people listening they dont know his definition. In general brahminism is what the people of brahmin caste do. They are mostly salaried and they don't do much of farming, small scale industries nor businesses. The exploitation in these sectors, that account most of the exploitation in the name of caste/class is done by other castes. The honor killings are done by other castes. He does not mention any one of those castes by name. He calls even their atrocities, even the casteism practiced by Christians "brahminical". Brahmins are not able to even defend themselves, when their deities are denigrated by people like Vairamuthu, or their temples are being ridiculed by politicians, when Periyar paraded their deities with chapal garlands, or when their goddesses were painted in a demeaning way by some painter Hussein or someone, there could not even get people to acknowledge, "this hurts their sentiment, but what to do freedom of expression is freedom of expression". The entire media gangs up against them. He is asking brahmins to speak out against atrocities committed by other castes against Dalits. But this scholar himself carefully avoids mentioning any other caste. The moral of the story is "be violent, react violently no body will dare mention your caste by name no matter what you do. Be like brahmins, stay non violent, they will use your caste name to describe violence done by other castes".
@midwings00
2 жыл бұрын
He basically said OBC are like paid thugs and that's it.
@laba3423
Жыл бұрын
first four lines ko main capitalism-communism ka mudda kehta hoon , casteism kehne kee bajay
@ajayvaghela9181
3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely wonderful initiative by The Wire . It s Greatful to hear young public intellectual Dr Suraj Yegnde.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@Commutinyyyy
3 жыл бұрын
The upper caste ask questions to frustrate and exhaust the dalits, mentally and emotionally, so that the discussion becomes tedious for the Dalits while the upper caste enjoy trolling them. And then slowly but surely, Dalits stop talking or speaking out altogether. And hence, the goal of maintaining the status quo is accomplished. And if Dalits continue to speak up, there's all kinds of microaggression and gaslighting done by the so-called civilized educated upper caste who claim to be professional and "consider Dalits as equals". That's the truth about the caste atrocities in India. The bit by bit chipping off of Dalit confidence and potential is the way casteism works now. And it'll never go away,but it can be kept in check, which hasn't been done in this country yet.
@snk0911
3 жыл бұрын
True. Well said!
@rishilight
3 жыл бұрын
excellent analysis
@prachishardul5380
2 жыл бұрын
Well said
@laba3423
Жыл бұрын
so basically one should not question someones knowledge just because he is SC
@gurindersingh8109
3 жыл бұрын
Sikhs had become the richest nation in Asia far ahead of Hindustan. But the Brahmin-bania take over of Bharat 47 has pushed Sikhs into poverty and also without any political voice. Sikhs come from dalits only. Brahmin-bania are so cruel that they attacked the Darbar Sahib and also didn't allow Sikhs to have a state capital despite public promises by Nehru-Gandhi of the RSS gang .
@evriahi2240
3 жыл бұрын
Sikhs come from the Dalits? Le* Khatris and Jats : Are we a joke to you?!
@kumarnarayana5105
3 жыл бұрын
Caste inequality is the root of all social evil in India ! On top, it works for the holy RSS/BJP hate machine to poison and divide people against people to create devoted, hate-blinded, archetypal voting-slaves ! 🙏🤓
@kamartaj3010
3 жыл бұрын
@@evriahi2240 caste inequality was started by brahmins😂. 6500 caste or untouchability banane k bhaad brahman parjivi naara lagata h ki hindu ek ho jao😂😂
@@evriahi2240 jats according to varna system which we spurned and became Sikhs, are shudras .
@pratikmusic4670
3 жыл бұрын
Young Guns of India 👍👍👍👍👍
@soonyanaidu7875
3 жыл бұрын
When roti and beti exchange happens then casteism goes. As long as that is not done no change will happen.
@karankapila6450
3 жыл бұрын
Can you force anyone to marry against their will?... btw there are so called dalits who doesn't marry within their own sub castes...who stopped them from marrying each other?
@Bumble-Be
3 жыл бұрын
Caste is a closed class structure, when it comes to marriage it's not about hierarchy (although some of the Hindu religious code books say so). In present scenario it has become a community issue. No Yadav will marry her daughter to a kshatriya or a Brahman ( I'm not talking about exceptions) neither a dalit will do so. So we see that caste has become a multidimensional blunder, it comes with community pride, economic discrimination, bigotry and identity politics.
@kavibharathy5690
3 жыл бұрын
@@karankapila6450 Then what do you think happening in India for generations??? How do you see the concept of “ARRANGED MARRIAGES” in Indian society???? Isn’t it a way of forcing one on their marriage??
@karankapila6450
3 жыл бұрын
@@kavibharathy5690 are you stupid?... familes arrange marriages not government
@kritikadeval
3 жыл бұрын
@@karankapila6450 so families can force people to marry, but governments cannot?
@SumanthLazarus
Жыл бұрын
Remember the name 'Sneha Parthibaraja' , first Indian women to get 'No Caste, No Religion certificate'. I'll be another one soon.
@antonychristopher1452
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant insights from Dr Suraj. Appreciate Mr Krishna for taking this topic for discussion
@skitrip2948
3 жыл бұрын
Questions dont change because actions of the self proclaimed upper caste dont change . The brahmin - baniya cartel are still as bigoted as they come .
@invisible6309
2 жыл бұрын
I always face the same questions. From now on I will not hurt my mouth by explaining them. I simply share this video to them. Thanks wire Thanks T.M.Krishna sir Thanks Suraj sir
@priyaaditya309
3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations to the interviewer Mr. TM Krishna too. It's not easy to stand apart from one's tribe either or to have differences of opinion. It can be a lonesome position. It's way easier to not rock the boat or to not hold the bull by its horns. 💕
@sravantinku1500
3 жыл бұрын
THE QUESTIONS TAGGED ARE MAJORITY OF THE UPPER CASTE GENERALISED MODERN QUESTIONS IN THEIR MIND. I APPRECIATE YOU FOR THAT QUESTIONS OF GENERAL SENSE.. SURELY SURAJ GAVE AN "EXPERIENCED FELT " ANSWERS TO THE MODERN GENERALISED BRAINS. IN MY VIEW SURAJ IS AN UPCOMING LEGEND FOR FUTURE AND HOPE FOR NOT ONLY DALITH BAHUJANS ,BUT ALSO AGAINST ALLTYPES OF ATTROCITIES IN INDIA .
@Pranjan1277
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks WIRE for bringing this topic
@reservoirgeophysicist3013
3 жыл бұрын
Social stratification in human societies is universal. Most people want all the benefits, but don't want the TAG which comes with it. They must realize that it's a whole package.
@angelialvares
3 жыл бұрын
The people with Money in INDIA earned by hook or by crook or via real estate hoarding or via prostitution consider themselves UPPER caste. These cannot be considered Upper Caste. The Highest caste are those who spend their time in learning, or in higher education, to improve themselves and their communities, or to encourage the Human Being to reach his or her full potential as the Highest form of Intelligence of all species. This can only be effected by Knowledge and Love and Respect of all Living Species
@cauliflowerhead2735
3 жыл бұрын
The upper castes should then should have more contribution in research and won more nobel prizes, but alas!
@montysharma8271
3 жыл бұрын
@@cauliflowerhead2735 colonisation is to be blamed.
@123xyzabccba
3 жыл бұрын
@@montysharma8271 : how ??? In fact because of British Indians got introduced to modern science else the bammans were making Merry spreading blind faith n exploiting the Bahujans
@jocelyns5331
3 жыл бұрын
@@montysharma8271 You mean the one by you sanskritans...?
@montysharma8271
3 жыл бұрын
@@123xyzabccba You should study your so called bammans contribution in the field of science.
@user-zh5fy7uu7d
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent.. Thank you Wire❤️
@mabrahamlee5
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent and informative. We need more conversations like this. Good job, TM Krishna and Dr Suraj Yengde.
@msaseendran683
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent questions and answers.
@rishilight
3 жыл бұрын
absolutely brilliant conversation. I love that T M Krishnan was only listening with respect and not adding his two bits to the conversation, thereby providing the model for how we have to learn now. The privileged caste has to stop talking and start listening (and hopefully learning) to the wisdom of the oppressed. Thank you for this.
@manutrivedi1891
3 жыл бұрын
Whats brilliant. This is a three olds rant. You guys are weird. Really
@ankuj7808
3 жыл бұрын
@@manutrivedi1891 manuvadi?
@manutrivedi1891
3 жыл бұрын
@@ankuj7808 I am not. But I can't call him an intellectual. He isnt one. Dr. Ambedkar was a true intellectual.
@JasonMomos
2 жыл бұрын
@@manutrivedi1891 I am sorry, do you support caste system?
@manutrivedi1891
2 жыл бұрын
@@JasonMomos no one does
@resket32
3 жыл бұрын
This conversation gave me so many new perspectives. Thank you
@himanshu1111shu
3 жыл бұрын
Two friends having cool discussion
@srv1990
3 жыл бұрын
Great to see Suraj yengde sir , ❤️❤️❤️
@nirmaldas9487
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant interview,thanks
@rajasuri1303
3 жыл бұрын
Indian talent doomed by caste and favouritism
@john01d94
3 жыл бұрын
There is not just class and caste discrimination but there is also a gender discrimination.
@debanjalihota4382
3 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely in the right direction
@kamaljhamat6620
3 жыл бұрын
Greatest intellectual sir Suraj Yengre sir huge Respect nd big salute to your excellent work... India proud of you sir
@xeeebon
3 жыл бұрын
Ban caste system by imposing law ...
@purveshsimejiya3839
3 жыл бұрын
We need to face the naked truth, whatever dr said was that naked truth
@ajsuraj
3 жыл бұрын
Salute Mr Yengde! Thanks Mr Krishna for passing the Mic & let Mr Yengde speak throughout.
@akhils5055
3 жыл бұрын
It's great to hear their thoughts on this beautiful subject❤️
@ajaylokare5384
3 жыл бұрын
End castiesm , reservation will end after that .
@Bumble-Be
3 жыл бұрын
Caste is a closed class structure, when it comes to marriage it's not about hierarchy (although some of the Hindu religious code books say so). In present scenario it has become a community issue. No Yadav will marry her daughter to a kshatriya or a Brahman ( I'm not talking about exceptions) neither a dalit will do so. So we see that caste has become a multidimensional blunder, it comes with community pride, economic discrimination, bigotry and identity politics.
@jocelyns5331
3 жыл бұрын
So says a brahmin...
@Bumble-Be
3 жыл бұрын
@@jocelyns5331 so what? People are by default carrying identity with them, that shouldn't hamper or prejudice their world view. Achieved status is and always will be superior to ascriptive status.
@alok9307
3 жыл бұрын
@ᴊᴏᴋᴇʀ yes....and I'm from maha DALIT This is called brahminism!
@iamarshadazad
3 жыл бұрын
@@Bumble-Be And why do you think people maintain endogamy? What could explain this? Let's take a simple cost and benefit analysis. One surely gets to maintain *purity of blood(sic)* or even gets pride. Alright, that makes sense. Now, what are the costs of it? Idk, society becomes rigid, mobility stops, whatever purpose caste might have, it manifests now into a rigid system. We all can agree till here. Hear me out on this, what if one breaks endogamy, marriages outside his caste. Why should we deter that? Why one him/herself wouldn't do that? The fear of punishment could be one reason. Now, who could punish a Yadav? Dalit can't punish Yadav for this departure. It has to be people from the Yadav caste or anyone from a higher caste. Do you get it? Endogamy is a signaling device. A signal to people in and up the hierarchy. That sounds pretty much what caste does.
@Bumble-Be
3 жыл бұрын
@@iamarshadazadwell there could be several reasons and explanations of endogamy and PURITY of blood is one among them and its not the oldest. Eugenics is the oldest explanation of endogamous marriages, the same can be traced in Platonic philosophy. However the reason behind that endogamous relationships wasn't based on caste. So we can conclude that purity or say superiority of blood is relatively new than Eugenics. However my point in the above argument was entirely different, I was focusing on how there are both intra community and inter community restrictions on marriages and it is blended with patriarchy. So from this, we can make inference on how society accepts or rejects exogamous relationships. You can refer to anulom and pratilom form of marriage to understand the nuances. Ofcourse it sets a hierarchy and at the same time is acceptable from both top to bottom and bottom to top.
@vasantrajp4740
3 жыл бұрын
Caste is the oldest form of institutionalised slavery and racial discrimination. People who now talk about meritocracy are the same people who devised caste to promote nepotism centuries.
@sushantkumar5192
3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Suraj yengde is a top intellectual Who is world wide acclaimed and he is an inspiration ,great humanitarian and great amberkarite.
@sathya6691
3 жыл бұрын
Wish other community and democracy alliance join together . Wish you India become casteless society
@xdfckt2564
2 жыл бұрын
"Brahmin women salivate for Dalits. Ask me" - Suraj Feminist Yengde
@prashantganvir3830
3 жыл бұрын
many more needs to listen this to clear their doubts n confusion.. Superb Interview.
@ankurnaskar2469
3 жыл бұрын
The resemblance to CRT is frightening. That is extremely counter-productive.
@padmakarlamghare6597
3 жыл бұрын
We do need to discuss the caste issues by the the upper caste intellectuals and address them in broader perspective. Why we continue with a system which decides the fate of a person right at the birth. How one can be superior or inferior just because he or she is born in particular caste?
@Pranjan1277
3 жыл бұрын
This video is worth watching 👌
@behappymusic7496
3 жыл бұрын
Great talk..Thank you team Wire.
@crazyguyimacrazyguy5944
3 жыл бұрын
While there may be no difference between an upper caste and lower caste, but there's certainly a difference between a doctor who passed by 40% and a doctor who passed by 90% .
@thrineshwaramysorer7463
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mr. TM Krishna and Dr. Suraj for bringing this interesting and important topic. I hope it will have some awareness among all the people who are connected with caste system in one way or the other. Casteism is a psychological insanity and the younger generation must be aware of it and be free from its conditioning. Also, the oppressed class seems to have doused the spark of anger, frustration they would have nurtured because of the oppression they face to some extent because of the reservation system they are enjoying. Because, there is no voice raised against the continuing oppression by them. The spark that had probably come into being long ago should have grown into a huge flame by now if it had been nurtured well.
@vijayarangan17
3 жыл бұрын
Historians and those in humanities and political science will want to keep the caste system alive and running instead of working on abolishing it. Otherwise they will run out of jobs and livelihood.
@ravisundaram3431
3 жыл бұрын
He is safe in USA. Still he does not mention the name of the castes doing honor killing. He jumps through hoops to call their atrocities brahminical. Very clear message to all castes trying to give up violence. No one will appreciate your non-violence, we will gang up and use your caste name to describe atrocities done by other castes.
@shelldie8523
3 жыл бұрын
Supoort his cause, not his haircut.
@rdxroy22
2 жыл бұрын
Stop asking questions to the marginalized , zoom out your lens and look at the bigger picture and ask questions to those who are in privileged position.
@TEJPALSINGH-fy6oq
3 жыл бұрын
sir please make a video on 'All private sector jobs captured by RSS.'' This is how it happens. RSS put there person in HR of a company. And then that person keeps referring only RSS person for interview. Any senior person in the company won't come to know this because they are unaware of ''RSS favourism'' and they themselves cant call people for interview. This is bad for the economy as we know how talented RSS people are. Also this means talented hardworking non-RSS people are sitting unemployed.
@utpalgautam6335
3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂...from where do you get these conspiracy theories ?
@123xyzabccba
3 жыл бұрын
@@utpalgautam6335 : don’t b so naive ....there’s massive casteism in the pvt sector as its controlled by Bania-bamman lobby and insulated from the provisions of reservations ....The rss is omnipresent be it the public for private sector but if ur mind isn’t working than ur eyes won’t spot them ...
@shubhamdubey9561
2 жыл бұрын
@@123xyzabccba come up with your real name and faith I bet you must be sucking the love da of Jesus
@none8149
2 жыл бұрын
@@123xyzabccba cry
@laba3423
Жыл бұрын
konsi capture ho gyi , jiss tarah se har chheez par sawal khde karte ho isse accha hai UC logon ko khtm hee krdo , jahan ham dikh yahan baitha hai hum nhi hja skte casteim kee vajah se hai warna kuch nhi krr skta
@shyamaladas5922
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it’s possible to ever undo such a pernicious system. But one needs to keep trying. Thank you for getting these questions and answers together.
@MR-xl5ni
Жыл бұрын
It is not always caste. Most of the time it is wealthy against the financially poor. This is in India and all over the world. The word caste is used in India but there is no label for this division on the western countries.
@manishshrivastava4u
3 жыл бұрын
I was in class 10 , and my class teacher was collecting data for scholarship, if asked us to register as sc, st, gen, obc. That time I didn't know if my caste fall under which catagory, my teacher told me you are genral class , i felt so disappointed, i come i can be general , i should be some thing special 🤣🤣🤣
@chinmaybendreCSB
2 жыл бұрын
TMK is an excellent host. Dr. Suraj is a well read man. Good interview. 🙂
@srikanthiyer4082
3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Yengde is a class act.
@sravantinku1500
3 жыл бұрын
JEWELS: Dalits are paying for their education , we don't have an absolute economic study, if obc is committing a crime that he is not committing crime,that someone above him authorizing to do, civility applied only to the oppressed, living in a violent, obnoxious intolerant society, that shouldnot apply to the people who for necessarily are really you know living from hand to mouth, boling over generations, its kind of the lava or the mountains hasbeen torn apart and this kind of volcanic eruption is being noticed and why is it noticed because you are feeling the burn of it. So the idea of tone policing ,moral policing is good, but it should not applied only to the oppressed ,should also be applied to the oppressor and may be we can have a kind of equal dialogue.
@stephenstrange4239
3 жыл бұрын
My dad made me have a thread ceremony as a kid,i refused n he said do it for ur grandfather.as soon as we came home from the temple i threw the thread out of the bathroom window.i was 12 i think.if at 12 i saw thru the BS why cant our leaders n most of our countrymen
@kamartaj3010
3 жыл бұрын
What is thread ceremony
@alok9307
3 жыл бұрын
@@kamartaj3010 janeu bro!
@dadaraotayade4327
3 жыл бұрын
Caste in India in indians same as sleeper cell.
@nehachakraborty9058
3 жыл бұрын
His arguments and explanations are so good.
@pinkpasa2634
11 ай бұрын
ঠিক
@1962madan
3 жыл бұрын
GOOD SESSION. The question about caste in other religions wasn't answered.The treatment of DALITS by other religions also needs to be studied and questioned. The treatment of VALMIKI community in KASHMIR, The DALIT LYNCHINGS by MUSLIMS, The KILLINGs of DALITS not converting to ISLAM after marrying MUSLIM GIRLS... BE OPEN about all these, IF you are SERIOUS about CASTE OPPRESSION.
@123xyzabccba
3 жыл бұрын
The bammans n banias hv also migrated to other religions just to perpetuate their hegemony over other converts from the oppressed castes who converted to escape from bammanical tyranny but unfortunately the could not ...all other Indian religions were born out of their opposition to bammanism hence those bammans-banias who converted to these religions converted not because of they supported the opposition to bammanism but in fact to perpetuate bammanism even in the religion to which they got converted and thereby blunted any opposition to bammanism...that’s why we find casteism in all religions existing in India ...
@123xyzabccba
3 жыл бұрын
All the atrocities against Valmiki n dalits which u hv mentioned are actually propagated by the bammans / oppressing castes of those religions including Islam ....the Muslims in Kashmir are not caste-neutrals ...
@1962madan
3 жыл бұрын
@@123xyzabccba as per you, MUSLIMS in KASHMIR NOT CASTE NEUTRAL.PANDITS ARE THE BAMMANS, then y 1990 GENOCIDE and exodus of PANDITS FROM KASHMIR ? ARE PAKISTANI AND BANGLADESHI MUSLIMS TOO NOT CASTE NEUTRAL? THEY COMMIT ATROCITIES ON THE DALITS THERE?
@123xyzabccba
3 жыл бұрын
@@1962madan : Y will 90% Kashmiri’s tolerate 3% pandits controlling 85% of resources ....it was only because the raja of Kashmir was Hindu the Kashmir-bammans were disproportionately pampered to the chagrin of the others ...It has been observed that during communal conflicts castes commonality gets overridden by religious bigotry that is why we find Hindu obc/sc/st’s killing their Muslim counterparts ......It’s a proven fact that the members of the oppressing Hindu castes who hv got converted to other religions have also carried with them their castes identities so as to continue receiving the unearned and undeserved benefits even after conversion. Recently the caste-catholics in Goa threatened the bishop of the churches that if the ones who converted from Bahujans castes (obc,sc,st) of Hinduism are allowed to share space with the converted members of the oppressing castes than the latter will reconvert to Hinduism.....
@laba3423
Жыл бұрын
@@123xyzabccba they coudnot control it ie all of them were made to move out of kashmir and for your kind information many kashmiri pandits also opposed raja of kashmir
@sonupaswan-fy5ti
2 жыл бұрын
They teach you about the British divide and rule policy in school which lasted almost 400 years What they don't teach you in school about Hinduism divide and rule policy They divide people in the name of caste and ruled for more than 1000 years... and this division weakened the country of India's size (7th largest in the world ) that is protected by sea in South and mountains in the north resulting 2 back 2 back invasion first Mughals and then British....... no offense to muslim community because majority of are converted because of caste discrimination
@MrPitch804
3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant.
@archanasonti7071
Жыл бұрын
@ Krishnan, "why she/he, Dalits are your domestic help for decades and you (brahmin) are the authority?
@sumandasgupta6179
Жыл бұрын
None of the questions are answered directly ... the guest is very sharp and smart and well educated ... but he has a huge bias.
@cauliflowerhead2735
3 жыл бұрын
The caste duration perfectly coincides with India's extraordinary economic decline. If Upper castes, the "custodians of knowledge", were so meritorious how could they let this happen. 85% of general category engineers don't have any usable skills.
@robbenvanpersie1562
Жыл бұрын
85% from where did you get this number?
@Kds140
Жыл бұрын
For your info it's the merit based clowns who get free jobs and entry into colleges are problems and hold back india behind. Most of those from general category goes foreign and do better and earn better while some clowns get all accessible and free of cost 🤡
@ShubhamShubhra
Жыл бұрын
@@robbenvanpersie1562 from the same group of people who are determined to break Hindu society apart
@kkrajkk1
Жыл бұрын
You cannot build up nation on the caste, you cannot build up morality on the caste, whatever you build up on the foundation on the caste will eventually break into pieces... - Dr B R Ambedkar
@thana9227
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. Now all I've got to do is make this clear to people around me who cling to casteism and refuse to use their privilege.
@babasaheb8507
3 жыл бұрын
Todays youth should listen to this and understand where we people are?!
@geeksatish8010
3 жыл бұрын
I think Brahmins jada obc jyada dalit par atrocity karate hai mai bhi obc hu
@shivscd
3 жыл бұрын
1) 2:41 :Why should I pay for my ancestors atrocities? Also, When you can inherit the property/wealth made by your ancestors why cant you inherit the results/consequences of their evil deed? which is payback/tit-for-tat.. This is big double std.. you only want good stuff you deserver not bad stuff? Also wealth your ancestors made is not via honest way but by again oppressing minority... 2) 8:00 - Why use "Brahminical" when uppre caste includes many forward caste people? Also, Tell me who wrote Shastras, Manusmriti- a gem ;-), mythology and claimed msg of GodNo one put their mind as much Branmins to retain their illumanity status in Indian caste system vai Shastra's. But IRONY they talk about dharma, satyaa, karma.. 3) 10:10 - Caste is found in all religions why are only Hindus targeted? 4) 12:18 - Isn't class the real differentiator today? 5) 15:28 - The violance that Dalits face often comes from OBC yet caste activists only target brahmins. Why OBC not called out? Also, Brahmins have chosen job to worship stone idol with ghee. OBCs are assigned to do other stuff. When carrying shit comes to table of course OBCs Brahmins all will join hands to force Dalit to do it. As OBC are 50%+ and Brahmin's are only 3-10%. They try to escape saying I was not in that 50% forcing Dalit to carry shit. Being architect of caste system Brahmin's will have to accept their fate 6) 18:12 - I treat my house help like family. Why do you accuse me of being castiest? Also, REALLY??? did you take your help passport for that next trip abroad youa re taking? is your help part of your insurance schemes with other family... "treating like part of family" is big strech... 7) 21:20 - I dont believe in caste dont even use my caste surname. How could I be oppressor? 8) 25:14 Its not caste. Being in same community and culture makes marriage easier.. 9) 28:20 how come you connect everything with caste? When you/castiests have linked everything to caste.. just pointing it & exposing it out can be irritating to you.. 10) 31:30 11) Reservation should be for poor people and merit & should not be based on caste.. Isn't becoming poor when your starting line was already set far ahead of start disqualifies you in merit part? In USA Abrahim Lincon(white man) took lead to abolish slavery that too in 1800 only. India with power of veda, dharma, culture, greatest in world... had to wait for Dalit leader to bring this issue to main table. Thanks to Ambedkar. 1 thing that bothers me is what if Ambedkar had not born in Dalit community..
@123xyzabccba
3 жыл бұрын
The oppressing castes suffers from what Ambedkar called ‘intellectual dishonesty’, which meant that even if they know the fact they are highly reluctant to accept it. They will never agree that they are beneficiaries of unearned and undeserved privileges and hence they always unjustifiably stand a better chance against the oppressed castes when it comes to competition. They even have their own ‘logic’, for example the bammans from Maharashtra keep lobbying for honouring Savarkar with Bharat Ratna by claiming that Savarkar was a freedom fighter, this they claim despite being aware that Savarkar pleaded clemency with the British several times, received hefty pension from the British upon his release and even assisted the British against the congress...
@laba3423
Жыл бұрын
I am UC guy living in small house with my father sallary only 15000 , ismein batao maine konsi priviledge enjoy kee , phir bhi meri behan sc / obc ke mukable sarkari paper kee fees jayada deti hai
@malinianbuchelvan4610
3 жыл бұрын
Suraj Yengde is so on point!
@s1tudy1
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant interview.. Thank you @the wire team and the super talented Suraj Yengde.. always a pleasure to listen to you!
@theyazzledazzle
3 жыл бұрын
The fact that caste is still a thing is really wild to me (an American). I've never once thought, when meeting an Indian person "oh, I wonder what caste they are". That's not even a thought here. America definitely has huge issues on class and race, but caste seems so arbitrary. How do you even know? I hope the whole world becomes more equitable for all.
@123xyzabccba
3 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly how caste n casteism operates ...its omnipresent but still invisible ...it breeds incompetence but boasts of un-proved merit...it commits heinous atrocities on the weaker sections but preaches peace and brotherhood....it exploits the very majority which votes it to power....its against affirmative actions for the oppressed but has hd thrived on Varnashram-reservations for centuries ....it preaches that the world is one family but divides its own into graded inequality....it condemns minoritism locally but shamelessly piggy rides the same to sneak in abroad .....so is there any wonder how this worst form of terrorism has been able to exist for thousands of years, grow and even export itself to all the continents ...
@snaik44
Жыл бұрын
Cast past 😆. Man I am in USA for 30 years. Brahmin colleague still do same favoritism to his Brahmin friends. It is going on on..go anywhere same stuff
@sulaganabiswas
3 жыл бұрын
Amazing amazing amazing
@double_courage57
3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Suraj is smart to get out of this country and move up in life!
@androidandroid4461
3 жыл бұрын
Excellent ❤️👍🙏
@anandbiga
3 жыл бұрын
Great interview. Thank you Wire for discussing what one may term as the most critical socio-economic-cutural issue plaguing this country. The Brahmanical votaries will of course, reel out uniform civil code, population control, one education etc etc as the panacea of all the evils.
@opaaaaaaaaaaa
3 жыл бұрын
Suraj is a smart guy. 👍
@sumantaroy9379
2 жыл бұрын
Suraj is spitting socialism.
@imlaqahmad7325
3 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thanks to TM Krishna for honest Journalism
@smitasatpute2120
3 жыл бұрын
Many more should listen to this interview
@akshaymatang1439
3 жыл бұрын
There are many subtitle mistakes please change them
@evelynedomnica3796
3 жыл бұрын
🤔He has a point.
@sca8217
Жыл бұрын
This gentleman is NOT an example of an intellectual. He is a poor orator, he speaks empirically instead of through evidence and statistics. In fact when it comes to discussing evidence and numbers, he stutters his way out of the topic and moves on to the next topic about oppression. He speaks a language of race, not caste, that has been retrofitted to the Indian society. I have had hundreds upon hundreds of acquaintances who have uplifted themselves from poverty and illiteracy using the educational and vocational opportunities provided to descendants of oppressed classes. I'm not saying that every one is at the same level now. It is regrettable what we as a society have done to our own brethren but we equally fought hard to change our own habits. I would credit out own social reformers and leaders for changing our society for the good than British education or some benevolent Anglicized civility. We have reached a point where every person , irrespective of their background, stands to better himself academically and financially. Dr. Yengde would be a prime example of that. But I am afraid he is trying to earn academic laurels by playing a victim , in the American Educational halls of Social Justice . His get-up screams of appropriation of Black American aesthetics. His language is NOT of erudition, but of someone who has a genuine passion but lacks academic rigour. We need better representatives and representatives that are willing to work together with the rest of the nation, not someone that scrutinizes from a distance and denigrates his own society.
@sumandasgupta6179
Жыл бұрын
"I am critical of all classes and all castes ... but I still want to name Brahmins" - did not understand
@Deepti2779
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Krishna and Dr.Yengde for this in-depth discussion. I have learned a lot.
@sachinshirsat7794
2 жыл бұрын
The answers you gave will be of great use to us., thanku so much sir,
@rdxroy22
3 жыл бұрын
Actually discussion should be on answering to the Oppressed Section by Upper Caste why their is hegemony of you every where ? What you are doing to dismantling it ? How you (UC) are able to hold the Bramhnical Structure for such a long period of time? Because from where I see caste is not only about discrimination i.e. the one aspect of it. Caste is about structure which benefits the minuscule of oppressor community. Here, it seems like those bramhins/UC who complains about reserve castism (reverse discrimination) asking Dalit why you are fighting for egalitarian values ? Such Fragile Savarnas. 😄
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