Excellent. Both enlightening and rousing, a rare blend when it comes to politics or economics...
@brianlav1
4 жыл бұрын
I love to hear David Harvey's voice.
@jacques15
4 жыл бұрын
Brianna It’s majestic.
@OH-pc5jx
4 жыл бұрын
Hope you’re well and staying safe, Professor Harvey! Just got the eBook of ‘Reading Capital’ in Verso’s corona sale and very excited to read it
@Bisquick
4 жыл бұрын
This is beyond fascinating to me. Thinking about machines as an incorporation of not only the obvious mechanical labor but also the _specialized knowledge itself_ and the implications that stem from this, especially in highlighting the technological trajectory which would evolve into a generalization of mental labor in the form of computers (not to mention how vital this industry would become) _thoroughly_ blew my mind...but maybe that's because most of my mind has just been integrated into my computer at this point. If we have any sense as a species we should definitely utilize this mandatory free-time as an opportunity to construct that reorganizational blueprint for a more balanced and ultimately more freeing world. In opposition to the market "efficiency" underlying capitalism, to me it seems like _this_ ends is a more valid scope for "efficiency" as it represents a true liberation unfiltered through class directives.
@Andrearuch97
4 жыл бұрын
David Harvey is so nice to listen becuase his voice is relaxing a he's full of wisdom
@camilom2752
4 жыл бұрын
Great work. Looking forward to your next video Professor.
@hsukangli
4 жыл бұрын
Another great share from Professor Harvey, thank you!
@tathagatsingh6634
4 жыл бұрын
27:29 The route to real individualism is only through collective action!
@matsm0n0
4 жыл бұрын
The left: Hey, we just want to have a good time, pursuing social relations, personal development and not work ourselves to death. The bourgeoisie: No.
@Latuernich09
4 жыл бұрын
I have almost 80 years experience in “ Collective Form of Action” as well in individual form of action in living and working. My experiences led me to “social distancing” at all levels long before covid19. I doubt that man is able make the world of tomorrow a better place considering his behavior to nature and society in the past, even if the capitalist mode of production has been overcome. And I studied and worked a lot on economy, psychology, behavioral sciences etc.
@richardfinlayson1524
4 жыл бұрын
right on Dave, a lot of food for thought, my mind has been moving along the same lines!
@Pinstripe0451
4 жыл бұрын
One of David's best videos yet.
@non-standardproletarian3356
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again, Prof. Harvey! One aspect of capitalist life I see which stands in tension with these new forms of living is the seeming addiction people have to the stress produced in response to the everyday; the workplace, the noise, the busy-ness, the hierarchy, etc. Without this stress, I find that many people don't feel like they're living, that their 'productive.' While I don't think this is necessarily insurmountable, I do sense its difficulty because people reason from that condition of addiction rather than from lovelier imaginings of the world. How might we begin to soften this shell into something more permeable so that folks can imagine something other than what we're living through today?
@billyoldman9209
4 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you sound like as if you've already given up on the real (and I don't blame you). But the fact that we are no longer able to directly represent reality to ourselves, and that we can only engage with simulations without an actual material referent (internet, media, markets etc) destroys any kind of possibility for change imo. The real must be reclaimed somehow (even if it's a shithole at this point). A physical engagement with the land and the food it bears? Or uncovering and facing the hidden/deterrent violence of normative society? Freeing human interaction from regulation by the market-logic and allowing destiny to shape it instead? Just random ideas.
@non-standardproletarian3356
4 жыл бұрын
@@billyoldman9209 Given up on the real? I'm uncertain not only how you'd come to a conclusion like that, but also what you mean by 'real.' For my part affectivity is of the real ultimately, even if mediated in varying degrees and occasions. At any rate, my question has more to do with how we might meet folks in the 'arena' of those affects in order to effect change.
@billyoldman9209
4 жыл бұрын
@@non-standardproletarian3356 If we don't care about mediation then a skype call will become the same as meeting up in person, and that's what I meant by losing the real. Imagining is also important because all our institutions and customs exist in the collective imaginary, but the imaginary has clearly gone out of control and we've allowed ourselves to be enslaved by it, no longer recognizing it as our own creation that we can change at any moment. And to me, one of those imaginary institutions is the "free market of desires" that ultimately individualizes every political and social question. Let's not forget that the individual and the current isolation are not given, but effects of a continuous domination. And in my opinion, before any human "coming together" can take place, the domination that created this state of affairs has to be eliminated first. Perhaps this is why Occupy ended in failure, because they wanted to occupy a bigger portion of the market in order to valorize individual desires. Next time material reality (nature, whatever you wanna call it) should be occupied, because that's where everything we need comes from anyway.
@non-standardproletarian3356
4 жыл бұрын
@@billyoldman9209 I think either I'm not communicating in a way you can hear me or your misunderstanding me. I most definitely care about meditation. It's one of the driving factors of my long disgust with capitalism. That said though, questions pertaining to mediation wasn't the primary target of my inquiry at present, but those very real affects of daily life people feel, communicate and exhibit; what I called 'addiction' to certain manifestations in daily life. While tech mediation works into this through our everyday life, of course, it was the affectiveness of everyday 'addictive' behaviors I'm concerned with here.
@billyoldman9209
4 жыл бұрын
@@non-standardproletarian3356 Ah ok, I guess I was in a different level of abstraction. I can also see how most of what we do is automatic and could be done even by sleepwalkers, or otherwise compensatory if not outright compulsive. Oppression everywhere!
@bloanta
4 жыл бұрын
Take care professor, and hope you expand this with the ideas Marx lays out in Critic to the Gotha Program
@domingodeanda233
4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was pretty damn good.
@tathagatsingh6634
4 жыл бұрын
Thank You, Professor! ✊🌹
@game568
4 жыл бұрын
Been glued to Prof. Harvey's thoughts since Right to the City.
@bernardheathaway9146
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Doc! These videos are great!
@chinafurschweizer1231
4 жыл бұрын
This could be the moment!
@tathagatsingh6634
4 жыл бұрын
18:13 Very Insightful!
@Alex-tp5qk
4 жыл бұрын
The only possible way is for capitalism to fail for good. If people don't lose the plot, we can then organize society to be free from profits, in order to look after basic human necessities. I fear that before that day comes, governments will turn their armies against the populations. As we all know " the one with the gun, has the last word"! I do not discredit your option as a possibility however, I must recognize that we will have to go through a short period of pain before we can create the society we want to live in.
@billyoldman9209
4 жыл бұрын
You make a good point, because we lefties talk too much about what we want but never a mention of what we are willing to sacrifice for it. Like they want some kind of socialism but also want to keep collecting rent from poorer comrades. Or they want shorter work day but also want to keep buying cheap goods in Walmart made by slaves even worse off than we. And the worst of all, as you said, they want the powers that be to just step down without violence.
@billyoldman9209
4 жыл бұрын
17:18 Embrace the emancipation by technology? The kind of technology that keeps creating new needs, thus making sure that the present "basic needs" of a population are never met? And of course surplus is available to labor (some of it anyway), otherwise there wouldn't be a consumer society of labor aristocrats. Here we have Harvey dissimulating colonialism (again), forgetting the fact that the Western working class is also advocating for the continued rape of the global south (because it means cheap goods for them). Same goes for our internal colonialism of people whose low-wage work is actually needed for the maintenance of state power and who feel cheated now for not being allowed to self-isolate (like the people doing bullshit managerial jobs etc). When Harvey says "we have to put people in the restaurants and tell them what to do" he is talking as the bolshevik vanguard (again). Right wingers are absolutely right in saying that "lefties think food grows on shelves in Walmart" and that hurts so much.
@johnnyroadcrew3841
4 жыл бұрын
Definately food for action .. .. ..
@tanujSE
4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@juniorgod321
4 жыл бұрын
I'd like that the nice professor explained to us where you're going to find these angels who are going to start new businesses, hire people and give 100% of their productivity (breaking even)!
@TheBullcub33
4 жыл бұрын
Georgia Guide Stones say the working class will be eliminated as non-essential when AI Technology takes over
@elizabethtaylor9085
4 жыл бұрын
Elizabeth Taylor . a recent poll in Britain showed that only 1 in 13 people want to go back to work and life as it was before. 9 percent. I do wish when you're referring to a book you're quoting for you would say the name very very clearly so I can understand it. You said the name probably ten times and I still have no idea what it is.
@mokopenipatene4564
4 жыл бұрын
Bring back evolution
@Dhumm81
4 жыл бұрын
How much so-called "AI" technology is actually being used to improve production of necessities, versus towards keeping the masses subordinate (by manipulation and lethal force) to the capitalist-imperialist class in a world where scarcity of necessities is increasingly artificial and the average rate of profit is fast approaching zero?
@tathagatsingh6634
4 жыл бұрын
18:13 27:29
@cicik57
Жыл бұрын
can exist a situation where a capitalist has no motivation, or low motivation to invest in new technology, like exploiting cheap labor would make for him more profit compared to updating the technology or he thinks he will get more or less big profit anyway so do not bother with detailed "governing" over his business and just enjoys his rich live ?
@SirAndrewII
4 жыл бұрын
You look healthier than most.
@pejmanparchami5644
4 жыл бұрын
What you are talking about this sessions is when we transition beyond capitalism and socialism. If you would like to see somebody that worked on what that would be. Please look up the Venus project.
@lloydmoore982
4 жыл бұрын
These guys speak with logic, too much of capitalism or socialism is bad for any society,a delicate balance between the two in my opinion is absolutely necessarily,this capitalist system is like giving folks a 6" rope then ask you to climb a 1000ft mountain,with curses for failure just look at today's working class.
@non-standardproletarian3356
4 жыл бұрын
I'm unsure what you mean by 'too much socialism' since I don't see much around me at all.
@projectmalus
4 жыл бұрын
The problem has both socialism and capitalism in it, or other ideas like communism. These ideas express themselves as different facets of the same problem. Capitalism sucks the heart out of people due to cost of living being too high: Socialism removes incentive since everything is provided for, and creativity is also co-opted by "the problem". Capitalism beats people down but there is creative freedom there. Socialism removes barriers and incentive to be creative. Small groups didn't work much before but now internet makes this possible. The problem isn't the ideas it's the level, or size of the group, at which the ideas are applied.
@SeanByrneAAA
4 жыл бұрын
I personally try to avoid the term "socialism" because there are so many different definitions out there so I take what you mean by socialism to be a democratically planned participative economy. Look at all the waste any type of capitalism creates. Air, plastics, used battery pollution, chronic disease due to a lack of adequate primary health for all, climate crisis, mass amounts of vacant foreclosed homes and rampant homelessness around the world. There are mixed economies in Europe where the quality of life for people is much better but these economies are still susceptible to the contradictions of capitalism that bring about this vast waste and recessions which the working class ultimately pay for. Work, a lot of it from previous work embodied in technology, creates the wealth and it ought to used for the betterment of all and our planet rather than having it expropriated by a smaller and smaller minority with the creation of hoards of waste. The UK, US and Ireland are very capitalist. There used to be the New Deal in the US but following world war 2, the Capitalist class succeeded in destroying all social democracy. If these countries returned to a more mixed economy, we would be leaving in place a capitalist class that would immediately set about destroying the mixed economy again.
@slightlygruff
4 жыл бұрын
Finally solutions. Raw, but still. Team up with Yang. He can consult you on ai
@BigMikeGuitar
4 жыл бұрын
It isn’t just economic circumstances to which society has trended by its own agencies; causality reduces further to evolutionary biology, and the biological phenomenon of human tribalism. Human tribalism, which has passed through a Hunting and Gathering mode of production to the static Agrarian mode of production, and acquire the institutional reinforcement we recognize as the state. A tribal biological phenomenon that has retained all of its constitutional elements (*1) finding modern institutionally reinforced church-state system expression through ethnocentrism, monotheism through a single favored national religion, and ultra-nationalism (such as white Christian nationalism), defending and reproducing itself through the institutional hierarchy of militarism, religion, politics, economics, and culture, and which maintains oligarchic and class hegemony in the modern secularized multiracial multicultural state through a fascist synthesis with capital. This hegemony is affected by legacy establishment advantage in gatekeeping highest bidder market processes; Trojan horse democratic political integration into the two party system to affect right-wing authoritarian Theocratic politics and populism; and to affect the administration of labor regulations, including the real estate, insurance, banking, and finance sectors. Despite the aspirations of Enlightenment philosophy and the Western experiment, the secularization of the state does nothing to diminish the potency of the ubiquitous church-state system, demonstrating a hierarchy of institutions spanning militarism, religion, politics, economics, and culture. Within the virile potency of church-state institutional hierarchy, we see militarism and religion remaining prioritized, protected, and subsidized institutions; where authoritarian instincts and characteristics remain compositional to right-wing politics and populism (including in much centrist and “opposition” liberal parties and populism) on every continent (*2), and where religion is not an institution made innocuous and reduced to individual choice through the Western experiment in reductionism to individualism, or by the philosophers studio secularization of the church-state system, but rather religion remains foundational to forming a unique and exceptionalistic tribal identity, which remains highly biologically synthesized within the expressions of ethnocentrism, monotheism through a single favored national religion, and ultra-nationalism, including further synthesized into authoritarian instincts and characteristics, and into national exceptionalism and national innocence (*3). The biological determinism of human tribalism is directly expressed through the actions of conservative authoritarians, whom conflate economic systems with nationalism, where capitalism is glorified through national exceptionalism and national innocence, including through flattering association with Christianity, and communism is demonized as a godless foreign enemy deserving of vilification and draconian punishments, where objective facts and analysis are replaced with instincts and utilitarian intellectualism projected with animus by the slings and arrows of authoritarian psychology (*2). Summarily, the solution to the human condition extends beyond the class divisions caused by economic circumstances to which society has trended by its own agencies: much of this dynamic is the consequence of authoritarian tribalism maintaining oligarchic hegemony to exert a power dynamic over populations, which can reliably retain labor production and military recruitment on a war footing; to prosecute endless growth-model resource wars; satiate the narcissism, elitism, entitlement and greed of pathological oligarchs; and mobilize for defensive and hegemonic war. The solution requires standing down growth-model authoritarian church-state tribalism competing in the evolutionary arms race, where growth-model economics plays an integral role; and more fundamentally, standing down the right-wing authoritarian element driving this biological phenomenon on every continent, in every nation, which will always demonize and attack alternative forms of organization such as science-based systems-based steady-state eco-socialism, as a tribal enemy. Notes (*1) The evolutionary proving grounds of H&G and agrarianism identify a single species divided by technological domination, where human tribalism that traded environmental sensibilities and the Great Law of Peace for technology suffered a terrible consequence, and where technology applied in disservice to Paleo-tribalism, including the egregious special interests and predatory pathology enabled through reductionism to individualism, private capital, private property, and the social and environmental externalities of capitalism, have become abstracted from science-based scrutiny and systems-based consequences, and now cause imminent premature extinction for everyone. Nevertheless - all human tribalism shares the same territorialism, genetic bias, theism, governance, trade, and culture - all the institutional equivalents of church-state systems. Indigenous tribes will instinctively defend their lands and resources; police genetic purity; have a warrior class, history of one, or ability to violence; defend their gods and spirituality; defend their right to govern themselves and access their resources; and maintain the integrity of their culture - no different from any other tribalism. In “The Social Conquest of Earth”, preeminent evolutionary biologist E. O. Wilson identifies that no matter how tribalism is scaled, spanning small 30 to 50 count tribes, all the way through chiefdoms, fiefdoms, kingdoms, states, and nation-states, the elements of human tribalism remain the same. (*2) The characteristics of ethnocentrism, monotheism, and ultra-nationalism are directly expressed through the hierarchical institutional organization of church-state tribalism, demonstrating militarism, religion, politics, economics, and culture, where militarism and religion always remain prioritized, protected, and subsidized institutions; including through the instincts, evolutionary psychology, and authoritarian psychology (i.e. “authoritarian personalities” Bob Altemeyer) of tribalism, which manifest through: a hierarchical worldview representative of fealty to a higher supernatural power, which is integrated into the formation of a unique exceptionalistic tribal identity, is representative of the institutional hierarchy of church-state systems, and is representative of the hierarchical nature of authoritarian characteristics through domination and winning, including through the hierarchical primacy of militarism in human tribalism; ethno-state nationalism and nativism, national exceptionalism and national innocence, racism, and xenophobia; obsession with security, defense, fairness, justice, loyalty, demonizing the enemy as less than human, and preferring draconian punishments; inability to empathy for others; Theo-conservatism through a single favored national religion; sexism, misogyny, and control of female reproduction; fealty to tradition, and distrust and rejection of information that contradicts tradition; finding foreigners and incompatible secular liberals as dirty, lazy, distrustful, crazy, repulsive, and diseased; including other traits such as one-ups-man-ship, believing winning is everything, believing they can win every fight, having the last word, and solving problems quickly with violence. (*3) Emphasis is put on the single species Homo sapiens, and the characteristics of “ethnocentrism, monotheism through a single favored national religion, and ultra-nationalism,” in relationship to each autonomous self-interested silo of human tribalism, which are represented in the regionally distributed silos of tribalism existing in every large nation. These competing distributions of autonomous tribalism, or regionally characteristic tribalism, always negotiate a competitive dynamic with whatever hegemonic tribalism also exists in the nation or nation-state, for example hegemonic white Christian nationalism in America, including the hegemonic tribalism that right-wing ethnocentric, monotheist, ultra-nationalism represents through right-wing political and populism, which demonizes incompatible secular egalitarian liberals, foreigners and minorities, and competing tribalism, as the same tribal enemy. Asserted exceptions to monotheism such as Hinduism and Animism do not transcend the evolutionary biology of the single species Homo sapiens; they maintain continuity with theism and supernaturalism being foundational and highly integrated into tribal identity, where human tribalism demonstrates hierarchy in tribal institutions that prioritize authoritarian and theistic institutions, which values are reflected in their politics, economics, and culture (what I characterize as the “authoritarian synthesis”). The analysis of tribalism only becomes delineated from modernity when discussing the dynamics produced between a Hunting and Gathering mode of production, or an Agrarian mode of production. Static territorial agrarianism reinforces institutional hierarchy, including the cultivation of technology applied to militarism to defend static territorial locations, and to acquire and return resources homeland, which have been used to dominate nomadic tribalism that trades technology and militarism for an organic relationship with nature, where the many gods of natural phenomenon and animism are common practice.
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4 жыл бұрын
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@Latuernich09
4 жыл бұрын
Horrible audio & video quality, former podcasts way better.
@democracyatwrk
4 жыл бұрын
Due to social distancing and closures of non-essential services, Professor Harvey can no longer meet our A/V engineer in our regular studio. Instead of stopping this show until we can resume normal quality, we are doing what we can to continue to provide this regular, free content to our audiences on our normal schedule. Professor Harvey can use his home computer go talk our A/V engineer, who can record it from his own home. Until it's safe for both Professor Harvey and our A/V engineer (another important human being) we will be making due with the methods that are available to us. We hope you will appreciate the topics, ideas, and arguments that are presented first and foremost. Thank you for your interest in our work!
@Latuernich09
4 жыл бұрын
@@democracyatwrk Maybe at least for better audio there is a "home made" solution.
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