Nothing but respect. You seem like a cool guy to chill with and have a beer.
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man you too
@HavocParadox
3 жыл бұрын
Everyone forgets oil of immolation... it might seem like nothing but it does 50 fire damage to all targets within 12yds every 3 seconds.. for 15. that's a lot of damage for basically nothing.
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
I kept meaning to include it but forgot lol. You're 💯 right.
@nickrodriguez7758
3 жыл бұрын
Man you're my father ty so much for these vids!
@Neatmemes
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many times you said "AoE protection Paladin". Great guide!
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha many many times.... AOE Protection Paladin.
@LilItaly
3 жыл бұрын
Repair bot should be mentioned for engineers. it’s huge. Being able to sell trash and repairing while farming can not be underrated
@916kartoon
3 жыл бұрын
gold farming bot lol
@sofaspud518
3 жыл бұрын
This is a great guide, however this is not a level 70 dungeon/heroic/raid guide. There are a couple big points missed if that is why you are here. Stat priority, 490 defense > 102.4 avoidance > stamina > spell power. If you are going to be tanking in raids or heroics you absolutely need to have 490 defense, then 102.4 avoidance with holy shield up, a big enough HP pool to survive some big hits...THEN focus on spell power for threat. Some of the things to help with that are a different shield (one with defensive stats and more block), tanking flasks, and 30 stam food over the damage focused shield/flask/food. TLDR; go watch one of Toyhouze's prot pally deep dive videos if you are here to tank raids/heroics
@MellonVegan
3 жыл бұрын
That absolutely depends on the raid team/performance as well though. I mean, absolutely crit and crush cap but after that, I go full threat. Although that only goes for raids with great healers and hard pumping dps. For the average raid, survivability will probably matter more. And I guess every tank should have gear for either.
@Peacekeeper_84
3 жыл бұрын
This build is mainly for AOE solo dungeon farming
@russelladams9147
3 жыл бұрын
Skullflames are going for around 1800-1900 gold at the moment on my server, lol.
@lilesmw
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I’ve been searching for something like this 😃
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@sero2049
2 жыл бұрын
I'm really hoping you put out another guide like this for Wrath.
@pijbins1247
3 жыл бұрын
I love waking up to new content!
@charlieboy8192
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome guide! Could you please elaborate on why 3/3 Precision is better than let's say 4/5 Anticipation? Since almost all damage comes from "thorns" and aoe. And would you still choose Precision over Anticipation while leveling?
@1991kessu
3 жыл бұрын
About the Scryer/Aldor, the Shattered Sun necklace is affected by the faction you choose. Dunno if it matters to an aoe paladin but just might wanna check them since most of the other stuff is pretty much the same regardless which faction you go.
@JimmytheGenius
3 жыл бұрын
why would you want more spell hit for low lvl aoe grinding/boosting instead of more stam?
@kumaashiatoai
3 жыл бұрын
Absolute perfect guide. Thank you so much.
@theperfectbeing
2 жыл бұрын
5/5 reckoning is a bit of a waste, pulling 100+ mobs even a single point means it will be up all the time, the extra stam and lower BOP timer is more useful, especially on the BM farms and trying to get all 5 strat clears done as fast as possible.
@thesauseboss5004
3 жыл бұрын
i honestly fucking love you... as a nurse, i dont have time for the BS, you keep it real, give me the chuckles and make my pally clap cheeks ty.
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words
@panzerknacker1205
3 жыл бұрын
Parry effect on swing timer? One of those game mechanics that is not readily apparent and I don’t think I can explain it myself. If a paladin wants to tank heroic and raid content then 5 points in parry is probably worthwhile for the avoidance in order to become immune to crushing blows. Question remains if it is beneficial for this build?
@jaredolino3755
3 жыл бұрын
thanks for a great vid. newbie in prot. paladin
@WolfsPearl
3 жыл бұрын
Hey @Toyhouze! So the only difference between being an aoe prot pally for BC dungeons, is changing ardent defender to anticipation? Or is there a different build for being an Outland aoe prot pally?
@Macala1588
3 жыл бұрын
Would it be best to use a regular Prot tanking spec, gear up, and then respec after getting BiS gear?
@spencerrex7531
3 жыл бұрын
Love your vids, thanks for the help. Just hit 41 on my pally and switching to Prot at 42 when I can use my flurry axe!
@dennisb6238
3 жыл бұрын
i would recommend solo grinding ZF Graveyard. i did 44 to 50/51 in a day
@SabentHD
3 жыл бұрын
@@dennisb6238 If you don't know how, don't bother you can level up faster questing. It'll take a while to learn and in that time you can just quest, aka same amount of time and if you were going to run it, go rep A so you can jump between the edge alot easier and B for maximum damage.
@dennisb6238
3 жыл бұрын
@@SabentHD dude i literally got 44 to 50 in like 6 hours...ive been pushing chars with Joanas Guide and couldnt even get close to those gains
@paradoxdriver4094
3 жыл бұрын
Say "AoE Protection Paladin" one more time. I dare you.
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
... AoE Protection Paladin.
@paradoxdriver4094
3 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze *flips table*
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
@@paradoxdriver4094 hahaha
@mattdevoe2609
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you reply? But what about like end game? Higher level dungeons? You said that was the best talent tree but you also mentioned it was for lower lever dungeons and targeting larger groups of lower level mobs? I'm a lv44 BE tank and so far you're information has been absolutely outstanding! But will this also help further unto the game? Maybe even into BC dungeons? Hopefully I get some info back! Again thank you.
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear! Yeah it should work even at 70, maybe switch some points around, take eye for an eye instead of % crit chance in ret tree.
@siluxx6301
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Toyhouze, do you have a guide for rotation? I've been finding myself running out of both health and mana fairly quickly even when using seals for each (aoe leveling in Outland). However this guide was really helpful!
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Siluxx, I usually pop seal, then holy shield, judge, then consecration on cooldown. I also had mana problems, I recommend downranking your consecration to save mana, and use seal of wisdom for mana procs on hit. Hope that helps my man.
@MellonVegan
3 жыл бұрын
It depends on the number of mobs you're fighting. At some point, holy shield will barely make a dent anymore, so that'd be the first one to leave out. But at fewer mobs, like 4 or 5, holy shield is probably more useful (I didn't do the math, though). I'd recommend judging and having up wisdom only and using bop and bubble to heal or bandage yourself.
@La4edimension
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I went with Dwarf from the get go few days ago. Thought it made the most sense. Without the avengers shield I feel the engineer's rocket is nice. So I'm thinking to go engineer plus probably mining, to make my engineering profession easier. Unless you have a recommendation as a profession to go WITH engineering
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Solid choice! Mining is a great idea for engineering to save on gold
@La4edimension
3 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze hey one more question. Do you have a video for good add-ons to get for quality of life and better efficiency in dungeons and raids? I just ran some dungeons and thought to myself: there's gotta be a better way to quickly target someone when I need to pull off a clutch heal or a way to better identify the threats. I've got threat plates but it didn't seem to work as intended during my last dungeon. So yeah if you have a video for good addons to use and how to configure them properly, sign me up. If you have that you have my sub 😜👍
@kevinansett3521
3 жыл бұрын
Can this build be used to Tank TBC Dungeons ...?? (Ramps etc) Reason I ask - I find the lack of certain talents v weird - such as Avengers shield - great pulling device for a pally? Is there a build that incorporates that?
@frostbiteonline6732
3 жыл бұрын
How would I go about leveling Jewelcrafting if I take that and Enchanting? Would it just be disenchanting and selling some mats for gold while buying other mats for JC? Sorry... noob here. Thanks!
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it will be expensive to level. You'll either need to buy all the materials or have a mining alt. But with enchanting and boosting it shouldn't be too bad to make gold. Hope that helps!
@frostbiteonline6732
3 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze thanks for the reply keep up the killer content man
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
@@frostbiteonline6732 thank you!
@La4edimension
3 жыл бұрын
the links in the google spreadsheet dont work. the website doesnt seem to exist
@skellyboi6350
3 жыл бұрын
Are there some good spots for farming 64? The Orcs in Nagrand are a bit high level and I'm kinda done with buzzards.. Also, are these talents viable for tanking dungeons as well?
@jacechan5499
3 жыл бұрын
what will be a good mix of AOE farm and raiding talent?
@matthewkeating6970
2 жыл бұрын
Great vid.
@La4edimension
3 жыл бұрын
Question for you @Toyhouze Do the consumables you listed STACK? Do ELIXIRS stack with FOODS, OILS etc...?
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Yes sir they do stack!
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Be careful though you can only have 1 guardian and 1 battle elixir at any given time.
@davidjohnkess02
3 жыл бұрын
you're google doc gear list doesn't have the Petrified lichen guard on it. is that a old list or is that shield no longer bis
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that list is for regular tanking. I'd make sure to get PLG and the libram and trinket mentioned, but fill the rest with items from that pre-raid bis list. Then of course upgrade those pieces as you go, but keep those AOE pieces mentioned in the vid.
@facehugger8995
3 жыл бұрын
but isn't the felsteel shield spike blacksmithing only? feel like that would be better then JC unless this is the patch that makes it boe
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
All shield spikes are no longer BS only, although BS is a decent pick too.
@facehugger8995
3 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze for a solo gold farm build do you think improved ret aura? because of the aoe cap?
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
@@facehugger8995 I still think sanctity because consecration isn't affected by the AOE cap!
@simonlundh
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, great video! Can you recommend any places for AoE farming while leveling? im lvl 65 atm.
@neikoh8604
3 жыл бұрын
Would Sacred Duty be useful? or is it not worth it?
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah definitely viable. Bubble cd reduction if you're using it each pull and the 6% stamina definitely helps!
@zachhawkins5005
2 жыл бұрын
Dude I just realized about one hand specialization....
@Toyhouze
2 жыл бұрын
It's subtle, and very awesome :)
@barisarslanoglu6969
2 жыл бұрын
ty
@tennyson988
3 жыл бұрын
Is this setup for gear the AOE farming setup? Or is this the recommended BIS for pre raid? Based on your opinion of course.
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
AOE Farmin!
@Zazu1337
3 жыл бұрын
I missed a comment on grenades/bombs as an engineer. Shouldn't that be an AOE DPS increase? And how does it hold up vs the seemingly minor stat increase of Jewelcrafting.
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
That's a good point, not to mention the repair bots to vendor. I think engi is a solid choice.
@Zazu1337
3 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze for what I can say engineering is relatively cheap to level to about 250 because you get a lot of Skillpoints from just making blasting powder from stones. And if you bring up enchanting after you are maxed and get the materials out of boosting low dungeons you can enchant the lowies equip for a little bonus. So I had to drop jewelcrafting. But I had enchanting and jewelcrafting in the original BC which was also very cool because I could always immediately wear new equipment without having to find a jeweller and an enchanter. I think thats the best option if you don't want the hassle of resupplying for bombs and gadgets which is either expansive without or time-consuming with a farming alt. But from my experience i'd chose engineering over jewelcrafting any time. I still like enchanting for the option to stack greens/blues for long solo farm or boosting sessions.
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
@@Zazu1337 yeah solid choice man and makes sense. Great stuff!
@davgre975
3 жыл бұрын
question for you.....when aoe farming should you downrank your holy shield and consecration and rely on your overall spell dmg for dps or go balls out
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
I'd say depends on your mana situation. I always use max rank holy shield, but I was downranking consecration while leveling and tanking dungeons because mana was an issue.
@La4edimension
3 жыл бұрын
since you dropped the RET aura, what happens to your BiS helmet from last video? (it increases ret)
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
I really like tankatronic goggles or other engineering goggles, but it's not in phase 1. I'd say any tanking tier piece is good too.
@lagiacrus999
3 жыл бұрын
What do you think about armorsmithing for prot pala?
@amirhosseinebrahimi6629
3 жыл бұрын
where can i get dabiri's of enigma???
@mauricioviggianoneto6308
3 жыл бұрын
Toy - How much does SP influences Consecration? for ex, a 10 boost on SP how much more dmg will consecration do?
@Toyhouze
2 жыл бұрын
I think it's a 1:1 increase
@dmitrymaksjura4794
3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t get it, should I be levelling in prot or in retri?
@vaclavmusial3258
2 жыл бұрын
Scrol of protection V-e- :D :D its 5 dude
@rex999rex
3 жыл бұрын
HOLY Fuck what a great guide! Thanks!
@slightyawesome4859
3 жыл бұрын
blizz says you enchanting no longer needed for carrying 24 spd ring enchant, and for disenchanting you can use any lvl 5 twink
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
In TBC enchanting can't even be leveled past 75 until you're beyond level 5. The spell power ring enchants are enchanting only and even if you want a Twink the minimum level is 50. But you don't want a Twink, the blues you get from scholo etc will be BoP.
@slightyawesome4859
3 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze disenchant any item not require any skil. ye, you loose bop stuff but getting enchanting just because of it.. dunno. but if this is only farming char forever then sure why not. but id pick engeneering + enchanting
@LousyZoot
3 жыл бұрын
@@slightyawesome4859 yes in tbc disenchanting requires levelling enchanting. Source: my lvl 40 disenchanter couldnt DE anything anymore and i had to level it a lot to cover Disenchanting all items up to 70
@slightyawesome4859
3 жыл бұрын
@@LousyZoot hm okay then it sux... but still you should be able to disenchant any of classic items. coz aoe paladin not realy able to tank normally in tbc because of no avenger shield skill
@kevinmonterodesu
3 жыл бұрын
amazing
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@mariuskr1
3 жыл бұрын
Yo i just gota ask is there a reason you dont have Wrath of Cenarius in Your bis list, i would say this one is kinda good xD, cuz you wil have that spell power always up cuz it wil proc by consecration. or els i love the video! lovly guid and bis list!
@wallchris75
3 жыл бұрын
It is bis for aoe prot. 100% uptime on it from concecrate during kill phase. Im currently working on getting mine. Also i would go honor badge spell power trinket as second choice. Dabri's isnt really needed with redoubt procs as well as holy shield and that much more sp increase will mean more concecrate damage and faster kill phases.
@Ben-tj4wt
3 жыл бұрын
If I were to farm strat/scholo could I just mail the blues and epics over to my other toon that has enchanting? Or is it a must to have enchanting on the actual paladin for disenchanting on the spot?
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Boss drops are usually BoP so you'd have to have enchanting on your paladin to DE them. But BoEs you could definitely DE, but often BoE are more valuable to just sell.
@Ben-tj4wt
3 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze Gotcha. Do you think engineering is a must-have for the field bot that you can sell junk items to from farming in strat/scholo? I think it's called "Field Repair Bot 74A"
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Wow I hadn't thought about that. I'd actually say that's a pretty amazing idea. Idk about must-have, but that definitely sounds like a great strategy. But I'm wondering how fast your inventory fills up from AH stuff like DE mats, dark runes, and runecloth. Might be worth it, but at the same time maybe not.
@ScottDodsonVideo
2 жыл бұрын
Months and months later....what is that graph addon?
@Toyhouze
2 жыл бұрын
Recount? Or TSM not sure I don't remember
@da7k51d31983
3 жыл бұрын
After watching your 1-60 aoe pala guide... should swap to prot from ret at about 32? gret guides BTW
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I think 34 is the perfect level but you can try 32, it might just be a bit slower or more difficult with less points in reckoning
@da7k51d31983
3 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze thanx
@Exploraptor
3 жыл бұрын
Whats the addon that shows you live graph of dps/hps?
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
That's called Recount!
@jaredolino3755
3 жыл бұрын
dont need the avenger shield anymore?
@mrphysics2625
2 жыл бұрын
did he even mention a shield spike?
@pijbins1247
3 жыл бұрын
Also can you do a guide on holy to?
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Definitely! I'll add it to the list 😉
@Therabbitking
3 жыл бұрын
Ummm rocket boots and repair bot HELLLOOOOO!?!?
@tbone8358
3 жыл бұрын
Where is the link to the BiS Prot Pally stuff?
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
should be in the description
@goaliedude32
3 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time he says "aoe protection paladin"
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
careful now lol
@antvera5110
3 жыл бұрын
Интересно 👍
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
spaciba
@sadback6790
3 жыл бұрын
we cant get Darkmoon Card: Vengeance on phase 1?
@ManU-nh7oe
3 жыл бұрын
No you cannot
@La4edimension
3 жыл бұрын
would you still recommend stratholme and scholomance even if I don't have "enchanter" as a profession?
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the dark runes and runecloth are still great and you can vendor the blues instead of DE
@La4edimension
3 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze thank you
@La4edimension
3 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze it's hard to find people to run some of the dungeons that have some of the bis gear like naglering
@La4edimension
3 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze you took the time to respond to me and I like your content very much! I believe your content will only get better therefore I'm subscribing to your channel right away 👍
@La4edimension
3 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze and Ragefire chasm and stockade, arent those like lvl 22-30 dungeons? isnt that a bit low for farming?
@kevinansett3521
3 жыл бұрын
Ok ive been trying this build for a fair while - it is VERY VERY gear dependent - without it - you die - a lot ....
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
100% you gotta have some blues
@jdmikeg4
3 жыл бұрын
U forgot to get seal of command
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Do you think it's useful for AOE?
@queeffersthrlnd1620
3 жыл бұрын
Did you stay aoe prot from 60-70?
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
You could, and there's a lot of demand for tanks so it could work great. But if you don't want to dungeon grind, I'd go ret
@queeffersthrlnd1620
3 жыл бұрын
@@Toyhouze what would you recommend? i might not make it for the rush of people in lfg since im barely 52
@Kanserus
3 жыл бұрын
Ward (w-or-d) warding (w-or-ding)
@Kanserus
3 жыл бұрын
I made this comment halfway through the video, then you said Libram….cmon man
@StormEarthFire
3 жыл бұрын
🤘🤘
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
🤘🤘
@xmlviking
3 жыл бұрын
why are you saying Scroll of ....V....it's 5 bro. LOL
@Toyhouze
3 жыл бұрын
Dang man you got me lol
@pablomercado2844
2 жыл бұрын
i dont know why this ''guide'' videos dont care to mention the stats we should prioritize.. incomplete guide.
@chrisbenjamin8396
2 жыл бұрын
Broken spec... you cannot physically create this spec in live TBC classic.
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