This man was just poking at the insides of a CRT while it was still on, I could never
@griffensander
3 жыл бұрын
As long as you know what not to touch, you'll be fine. They're not as lethal as most people think.
@NicheAsQuiche
2 жыл бұрын
@@griffensander When on they sure are. If its off then I agree. I think a better way to phrase this is: just because something can kill you doesn't mean you should avoid it i.e. driving a car, replacing a lightbulb, going outside of your house.. you just need to know where the risks are and how to be responsible and avoid them. And always have a plan for if something goes wrong (often having other people with you)
@isaacwatanabe9599
20 күн бұрын
Theyre very lethal given that most people dont know what not to touch@@griffensander
@anasevi9456
5 жыл бұрын
Another beauty, this video will age like a fine wine given how rare such well filmed videos are on such curios.
@KingSlimjeezy
3 жыл бұрын
I remember in elementary school 1st / 2nd grade when my school swapped out all of their old macintosshes for those colorful imacs. In addition the library had 2 g4s with these bad boys - which besides just being really cool were the first time i had EVER seen on optical mouse that blew my mind. I was an IBM fanboy at the time and actually wrote them a letter saying to get their shit together because apple has these new mice and they are getting more popular! i was a strange kid
@helmi5045
3 жыл бұрын
You weren’t strange you had some big balls writing fucking IBM to get their shit together
@ObtuseAcute1
Жыл бұрын
@@helmi5045 i agree
@bigfudge3223
Жыл бұрын
@@helmi5045 they shoulda listened to that letter look where they're at now lol
@KGNYC112
4 жыл бұрын
Such beautiful video. The Apple monitor, the jazz music, the tone of your voice, the camera you filmed with, all work of art! Thanks for this wonderful experience. Wish I can get a hold on one of those monitors.
@keremkaratas1902
3 жыл бұрын
I have a screen of it with a calculator and keyboard. It costs € 700 + shipping.
@appleman76
3 жыл бұрын
My junior high school computer lab had a Dual 450 PowerMac G4 with one of these displays. I think this is the only display I've ever seen where I don't care what's on the screen, I just want to turn it sideways and stare at it. The fact that it also has a very nice picture is just icing on the cake.
@synceen
25 күн бұрын
this video is a godsend, ive got one myself and this is the only thing i can find booting it with a powerbook G4
@grymoda
3 жыл бұрын
Sega Dreamcast? I see you're man of class and high taste.
@griffensander
3 жыл бұрын
If you like the Dreamcast, you might like what I play it on even more 😁 kzitem.info/news/bejne/2neDl217mH19aKQ
@raygan
4 жыл бұрын
I just picked one of these up and your video was super helpful. I'm working on building one of these adapters now.
@fernandochapa1433
3 жыл бұрын
Me too, i've just ordered everything. How did you do?
@raygan
3 жыл бұрын
@@fernandochapa1433 I have not got it working yet, I suspect my power supply is not proving it enough juice. It shows up as a usb device but no picture.
@emondrag
2 жыл бұрын
I got all the parts as well. I'm struggling to understand the diagram. I got the resistors, what diode did you use? Also, are capacitors that go where it says "VGA Pwr", "USB Pwr", "ADC Pwr". Let me know. I'm about to start soldering. I also got the micro USB, but the large one seems to be a Type B USB.
@camerontinker1948
5 жыл бұрын
Very informative and helpful! I am keeping an eye for one at a good price. Hopefully I can get one soon!
@keremkaratas1902
3 жыл бұрын
I have a screen of it with a calculator and keyboard. It costs € 700 + shipping.
@alienJIZ1990
2 жыл бұрын
That's a bummer about the Dreamcast and lack of standard 480p =( still a cool monitor but that definitely rules it out for me
@rodribyte4255
Жыл бұрын
I have a dreamcast, mister, xbox 360 and a series x connected to my viewsonic crt and the result is glorious. But I wonder how looks an apple crt.
@hlecaros
9 ай бұрын
I remember this monitor at my college graphic arts classes they were connected to powermac g4 computers of I remember well.
@LayneBenofsky
Жыл бұрын
I'm finding it hard to believe that was the only knife you had available, but it was glorious! :D
@isaacr9893
6 ай бұрын
I believe the eMac came out after this and also featured a crt. It may be the exact same panel!
@ZuneTech2008
7 ай бұрын
I love that the iMac G3 is a CRT monitor with a computer built-in out of the box.
@axi0matic
2 жыл бұрын
Nice monitor. Personally, I would have fitted all the components, and not just arbitrarily left one off because it was hard to get. Especially as it was causing your G4 laptop to shut down. Seems risky to then plug it in to a bunch of other machines, including your main machine. Also, why not solder a female PSU connector to the board, rather than just chopping the male end off the scanner PSU and permanently soldering it?
@kenkelvin4023
3 жыл бұрын
We need them back
@aegonthedragon7303
5 жыл бұрын
Apple did make an ADC to DVI adapter. They are rather common on eBay for 30-40 bucks.
@griffensander
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, but it's only for their flat panel LCD monitors. The CRT needs adapted to VGA.
@manuperez6698
5 жыл бұрын
@@griffensander Hey! i'm looking into buying this very same CRT and I was thinking in the official adapter, are you sure it does not work with the CRT? have you tried it before?
@realiced2072
5 жыл бұрын
Manu Perez I tried Apple DVI to ADC Adapter. But it doesn't work with this CRT monitor. Now I'll try Jason's adapter.
@griffensander
5 жыл бұрын
@@manuperez6698 I haven't personally tried it, but I am certain it does not work. If you look at the DVI connector on Apples adapter you'll notice it's physically missing the pins that carry a VGA signal through DVI. Not only that, but people on various forums claim to have tried it and say it doesn't work.
@manuperez6698
5 жыл бұрын
@@griffensander Quick question here then, in the video you talk about less than 154hz (which is the max frequency it can output with old macs) this is because of the vga vs dvi?
@ChristopherCox-rf5lq
6 ай бұрын
The Apple DVI to ADC adapter doesn’t work?
@Odinoian
4 жыл бұрын
You should make it more clear what model this monitor is. Absolutely beautiful design!
@griffensander
4 жыл бұрын
It called the Apple ADC CRT Studio Display.
@NicheAsQuiche
2 жыл бұрын
M7768
@bionyx6368
4 жыл бұрын
You deserve way more subscribers than you have now.
@subjecttintin7413
3 жыл бұрын
I use translation so there may be something wrong with the text If you like, could you please tell me the site where this adapter production kit and parts are available?
@griffensander
3 жыл бұрын
You can order the circut board from here: oshpark.com/shared_projects/tUQ9np4l All of the connectors, components, and a power supply will have to be sourced separately. Info about what's needed is at: www.jasondoesitall.com/adc/
@subjecttintin7413
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@anilxtr
4 ай бұрын
2:58 is that windows 10 or 8.1? i see the w10 icon from start button but this is metro ui. tell me to how to do that man im curious lol
@versedbridge4007
2 жыл бұрын
You can buy one or a few capacitors on mouser…
@Maybeitsmaybelline0
3 жыл бұрын
this is why i only use crt monitor's and tv's when possible fro media of a date mainly anything from before 2008
@NicheAsQuiche
2 жыл бұрын
Depending on the content I use them for modern stuff too. especially 2d animation, it just looks so good on a high res CRT, looks ridiculously smooth and the colour are way less jarring than an LCD for some reason
@harysuper
4 жыл бұрын
Nice video! How did you score that ADC adaptor, I'm assuming Jason Does it All. Is there a link to it or a way to contact him to purchase one?
@griffensander
4 жыл бұрын
He's got the schematic uploaded to OSHSpark. You can order one there: oshpark.com/shared_projects/tUQ9np4l
@Verault
Жыл бұрын
You didnt add a capacitor which the circuit is designed to run with, because you didnt feel like buying one? Is that right?
@realiced2072
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Really helpful! I ordered the same adapter. And I have a question. Did you use not DVI but VGA port of the Jason's adapter? Do I need another DVI to VGA adapter?
@griffensander
5 жыл бұрын
If your computer has a DVI-D port and you have a DVI-D cable you can just use the DVI port on the ADC adapter because DVI-D carries a VGA signal. I just used a VGA cable and adapter because I didn't have a DVI-D cable.
@realiced2072
5 жыл бұрын
Griffen Sander I see. I'll try after I get the adapter. Thank you so much!
@NicheAsQuiche
2 жыл бұрын
@@griffensander DVI-D Does not carry a VGA signal. DVI-D standst for DVI-Digital. You can see how the connector is missing the four pins that go around the cross, and instead it just has a straight line in its place - those pins are what carry the VGA signal. You also get DVI-I (I for ntegrated) which carries both, and DVI-A (A for analog, although I've never seen one of those).
@rodrigocml
2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to do this without the board? hoking up a VGA cable, USB cable and 24v power supply directly to the adc cable? or does it need the extra capacitors and resistors?
@Tholi
5 жыл бұрын
love this channel
@majorbean
2 жыл бұрын
if there's anyone lurking down here who is looking to build jason's ADC adapter, i bought a set of 3 of the PCB boards as it was the minimum order number - id be happy to post the other two extras to anyone who doesn't also want to have to buy three of them :D
@JakobKoblinsky
2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I'd be interested on buying a single adapter. Are they still available?
@majorbean
2 жыл бұрын
@@JakobKoblinsky hi yes they are! i have 2 pcb boards left :) feel free to msg me thru my twitter on my youtube profile or something if u like
@thaitvfan5605
3 жыл бұрын
Where is website which I can buy the Jason 's adc dvi vga adapter(assembled as in your clip) ?
@griffensander
3 жыл бұрын
It does not come assembled. You'll need to order the board from the link in the description and source all the components yourself.
@Phatcat1076
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome monitor, been looking into moding an old crt computer monitor with a raspberry pi 4 in it for old video games. Just by chance, what game is that you're playing on the monitor? It reminds me of jet moto and wave rally.
@griffensander
2 жыл бұрын
It's called Hydro Thunder: Hurricane.
@Phatcat1076
2 жыл бұрын
@@griffensander thank you
@emondrag
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for yet another great video. I took inspiration from you and went and bought the board and other components out of JasonDoesitAll. I still don't understand the Gerber files, or rather what other electronic components (capacitors, diodes, etc.) I need to buy. Would you mind sharing those? I bought 3 boards from OSHPark (the mininum) and enough components from Mouser to build 3 adapters. Any help you provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
@NicheAsQuiche
2 жыл бұрын
The diode isn't necessary, it just allows you to use the USB port's power to turn on the display I believe, but the power to do that is already supplied by the VGA and DVI ports. The capacitor you need is "at least 30V and between 10uF and 100uF" according to the guy who made it (the link to his explanation is in the description of this video). Hi! I'll buy one of your boards off you if youre in the UK! where did you get the ADC connectors to solder onto the board? I went through the route of buying an old video card with an ADC port and taking that from it.
@benjaminwright8650
5 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you made this video! I have one of these monitors and I've been aiming to get it working with my macbook pro. Could you please shoot me the link to the pcb board that you used? Also, is that geometry adjustment software built into the G5's OS , or was it a standalone application within it?
@griffensander
5 жыл бұрын
I bought mine here: www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-DVI-to-ADC-Adapter-board-for-Cinema-Display-A1006-DIY-PCB/113788565793?hash=item1a7e53b921:g:Tq4AAOSwG59c5eu8 The adjustment software is built into Mac OS X 10.4 and 10.5 (and maybe 10.3 and 10.6, but I didn't try)
@benjaminwright8650
5 жыл бұрын
@@griffensander Thank you!
@benjaminwright8650
4 жыл бұрын
@@griffensander When constructing the adapter board, how many resistors did you end up soldering onto the board? I've nearly finished soldering my board, and I can see in your video that you soldered a blue resistor onto yours. However, when I received all my board components two resistors were included. I was wondering if the second resistor was necessary. Thanks.
@miguelamaton5742
2 жыл бұрын
Why are you still using Window 8.1?!
@AmanOU2be
3 жыл бұрын
So, the DVI to ADC adapter for the later LCDs won't work because the CRT needs too much power?
@griffensander
3 жыл бұрын
No, it doesn't work because it only carries digital video signals. The CRT needs analog video signals.
@TheIrkenEmpire420
4 жыл бұрын
Someone found a cute lizard in one of them.
@syloui
3 жыл бұрын
psivewri lol
@itsmesb4399
5 жыл бұрын
Btw Apple did male an add to dvi adapter. Look on eBay
@griffensander
5 жыл бұрын
Yes, but it doesn't work with the CRT Studio Display because it's only DVI-D. The CRT Studio Display needs DVI-I or VGA.
@user-mt4ny2zw7t
3 жыл бұрын
@@griffensander I said this already but you can get Hdmi-DVI-I adapters. You only have to buy the Apple A1006 DVI to ADC adapter and a HDMI-DVI-I adapter.
@notgoodatmathmmm6185
3 жыл бұрын
@@user-mt4ny2zw7t HI, did you try this?
@NicheAsQuiche
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-mt4ny2zw7t The adapter doesnt have the pins for the analog signals. look up images of it. it wont work
@skinnie88
4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for this video. Just to confirm. If you connect this CRT monitor via DVI to that adapter it won't work right? Only via VGA right?
@NicheAsQuiche
2 жыл бұрын
DVI can carry either analog signals (DVI-I), digital signals (DVI-D) or both (DVI-I). As long as your DVI cable and whatever is generating the signal is generating analog signal (DVI-A or DVI-I) you'll be fine.
@kennylauderdale_en
5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you have so few views.
@MemeScreen
2 жыл бұрын
Do you know how to connect a modern mac to a high resolution CRT monitor? All active converters I find max around 720p and I can’t connect my nvidia 980 externally anymore after Apple removed support.
@2kBofFun
11 ай бұрын
Just don't. Only Macs with original DVI-I Apple Video cards are allowed to connect to CRT's. Steve Jobs will come after you if you mess with CRT's on modern macs.
@theharbingerofconflation
4 жыл бұрын
I don't quite understand, so do I need that custom board or is VGA to DVI fine?
@griffensander
4 жыл бұрын
You will need the custom board to use this monitor with anything but an ADC equipped Mac.
@manuperez6698
5 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the custom pcb? i've been trying to find it and seems like the original website is down now.
@griffensander
5 жыл бұрын
You can order the board straight from the manufacturer here: oshpark.com/shared_projects/tUQ9np4l
@FrankJAlejo
4 жыл бұрын
Theres currently one on sell on offer up that I have my eye on. No idea from the seller if it works. I offered a low ball of 35 as he has it posted for 130 so let's see what happens. But I wanted to know if there are any retro gaming use case for it? Would it be possible to run an Analogue(the company) game console on this monitor?
@griffensander
4 жыл бұрын
No, I doubt is would work with Analogue's stuff. It's really limited to PC and Mac use because it requires custom display timings.
@onigvd77
9 ай бұрын
Damn I gave up on being able to connect mine to anything and donated it to a local Mac shop. I did use it for a time with a compatible Mac until that machine died.
@boxesnpaintproductions311
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm interested in picking one of these up, but worried about the VESA timing thing. Have you tried using CRU or Nvidia control panel to reach those other resolutions/refreshes on a Windows 10 PC? If so, was it successful?
@griffensander
3 жыл бұрын
I have, and while all the Apple resolutions and refresh-rates work when set manually in CRU, the only other resolutions I've been able to get working are 1280x720@64p and 1600x900@64p.
@boxesnpaintproductions311
3 жыл бұрын
@@griffensander Thanks for the reply! So I ended up getting the monitor but had no luck with some 3rd party adapters. Is there a page with a step-by-step guide to assembling that DIY one you made in the video? I know absolutely nothing about soldering or working with electronics so I hope it won't be too difficult :0
@paullak625
3 жыл бұрын
Where is you buy the female adc connector to solder on your board ?
@griffensander
3 жыл бұрын
Their used to be someone on eBay selling them. If they're gone, it might be difficult to find one.
@NicheAsQuiche
2 жыл бұрын
I pulled one off an old mac-compatible video card I found on eBay
@paullak625
2 жыл бұрын
@@NicheAsQuiche the know you mean the PCI card I used it ....but it was unsuccessful because I did not have the equipments to desolder the female adc from pci board .
@NicheAsQuiche
2 жыл бұрын
@@paullak625 try a powerful heatgun, that way you can heat up all the pins at one. Or just destroy the board with pliers and cut it out and chip away until just the connector is left
@paullak625
2 жыл бұрын
@@NicheAsQuiche thank you soo much for confirm me about air hot gun and what is the VGA pwr. ,USB pwr. And ADC pwr. Signs on the PCB ?
@edurges
3 жыл бұрын
Apple ADC To DVI Adapter not working on this monitor?
@griffensander
3 жыл бұрын
No, that adapter only converts the digital part of a DVI connector. This monitor requires the VGA part of a DVI connector to function.
@edurges
3 жыл бұрын
Grácias
@fernandochapa1433
3 жыл бұрын
Is connecting is to a display port or hdmi a possibility or is it out of the question?
@griffensander
3 жыл бұрын
You'd need a Displayport to VGA adapter, then connect that to the custom adapter board (which you'll have to build). I'm actually using this exact setup to connect it to my 2013 Mac Pro.
@the-realm-of-God
7 ай бұрын
Hello, friend Is it possible to purchase pcb now?
@griffensander
7 ай бұрын
The schematics are available online. You would have to have a batch custom-made from a service like PCBWay though. I am not aware of anyone selling premade PCBs.
@the-realm-of-God
6 ай бұрын
@@griffensander Thank you for your answer.
@cathat227
3 жыл бұрын
Ps4 uses really good shaders you should try It on one
@hardrivethrutown
3 жыл бұрын
Apple actually sold ADC to DVI/VGA converters
@griffensander
3 жыл бұрын
ADC to DVI, yes. But the DVI port on that adapter doesn't carry the VGA signals needed.
@ivankleinmeyer6458
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! What resistor did you use, exactly?
@griffensander
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I believe it was a 1k resistor, but it came with the board as a kit so I'm not 100% sure.
@emondrag
2 жыл бұрын
@@griffensander where'd you get this as a kit?
@paullak625
3 жыл бұрын
Is this board has DVI port on it or not ?
@griffensander
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it does.
@nicholassmith7723
4 жыл бұрын
What's the exact model number of this display? Trying to find one, but I'm not finding that same clear casing.
@griffensander
4 жыл бұрын
I have no idea, and you have to disassemble the stand to get to where it's printed. It's usually called the "17 Inch CRT Studio Display (ADC)"
@theapplecobbler3231
4 жыл бұрын
M7768
@davethebulb
2 жыл бұрын
What version of OSX is your G5 running? Thanks!
@griffensander
2 жыл бұрын
OS X 10.5 Leopard.
@davethebulb
2 жыл бұрын
@@griffensander Phew! What I was hoping. I've just bought a Power Mac G4 and a copy of 10.5.4 specifically for adjusting the geometry on my 21" Studio Display. However, there is very little info out there about when Apple removed support for older displays from OSX?
@dukethecat
3 жыл бұрын
Apple made a adc to dvi adapter for these
@JBurg
3 жыл бұрын
sadly the official Apple adapters are only compatible with their LCD ADC displays - they don’t have a large enough power supply to drive a CRT.
@tanuki2k
3 жыл бұрын
@@JBurg I believe its not the power supply, but that fact it only does DVI not VGA. ever case the official Apple adapters do not work.
@JBurg
3 жыл бұрын
@@tanuki2k it’s actually both! according to the specs published by Apple, the official adapters are capable of outputting 90w maximum. The 23” Cinema display (LCD) draws 70w at full brightness and presumably the smaller sizes even less, leaving a safe buffer so nothing overheats in the adapter. the Studio Display CRT draws ~113w and even if the official adapters passed VGA through they wouldn’t have high enough current to power it. I’d venture a guess that the omission of VGA pins on the adapter was an intentional choice to stop someone from connecting a CRT display to it and possibly starting a fire.
@apowave
2 жыл бұрын
Was literally about to buy one then you said it can’t be used for retro gaming
@2kBofFun
11 ай бұрын
Sure it can be used for retro gaming. It will play Prince of Persia, SimCity 2000, Marathon, Marathon Infinity and such all wonderfully. A perfect MacOS 9 gaming screen.
@tomahawkstudios9688
3 жыл бұрын
Anyone reckon this monitor would be good for Super Smash Bros Melee?
@TheSlyhound
2 жыл бұрын
Can you play light gun games on this you think?
@2kBofFun
11 ай бұрын
If you would design games that work with this specific monitor yes.
@VirtuaVillain
4 жыл бұрын
Was that not Dreamcast Hydro Thunder you showed running?
@griffensander
4 жыл бұрын
Nope. It was Hydro Thunder: Hurricane running off my PC.
@VirtuaVillain
4 жыл бұрын
@@griffensander Oh cool, I didn't know it got a PC port!
@TuiCatNZ
4 жыл бұрын
The power goes down the same cable as the video! Wtf apple!
@NicheAsQuiche
2 жыл бұрын
louis rossman couldnt agree more when he found a macbook that had shorted the backlight power (+50v) to the CPU cause they had pins that end up on the same cable directly adjacent to each other. EDIT: Needless to say, CPU did not survive
@TuiCatNZ
2 жыл бұрын
@@NicheAsQuiche lol, the new desktop mac now has the ethernet and power mixed together. Apple always prefers "elegance" over flexibility or functionally.
@tanuki2k
3 жыл бұрын
can you confirm where you got the specs for the power supply? Does it have to be 5amps?
@NicheAsQuiche
2 жыл бұрын
If a power supply does more amps it _should_ be fine, electronics should only drawn what they require, even if the power supply can technically supply more. However, poorly designed electronics may not limit their current draw, so when looking for a power supply when you're reverse engineering or hardware hacing like this its definitely a good idea to limit the power draw manually, either by selecting a poer supply with a max amps that matches what you need or having a higher amp power supply and using an amp limiting circuit
@cooperschwartz318
4 ай бұрын
eMac: *am I a joke to you*
@JoeGoesx
4 жыл бұрын
Is there anyway you could build me one? Would happily pay you for the trouble
@2kBofFun
11 ай бұрын
Just cycle to your local electronics shop and get a single capacitor. If either of the 2 doesn't work in your case, reconsider you place of living....
@Wehiremonkeys
4 жыл бұрын
I knew CRT's were old but I didn't know they still used carburettors.
@notgoodatmathmmm6185
3 жыл бұрын
I pay you if you can make me one of these that would work with a Macbook Pro 2020 :)) being serious
@AngeloTelesforo
3 жыл бұрын
Lol, if soldering a PCB that small was the most tedious thing in your life or you are very young or you have the most adventurous life!
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