I’m not a diver, ultra marathoner, or spend considerable time mountain climbing/hiking. However, I still bought the Apple Watch Ultra. Why? Because I love the look, and I have used an Apple Watch every day since 2015. I use it for workouts, phone calls, text messages, calendar events, a flashlight, timer, weather updates, and last but not least, a time keeper. It’s not a watch, it’s a wrist computer. I love the design, display, and battery life of the Ultra.
@rawhh182
2 жыл бұрын
Good for you mate! I also ordered it for the same similar use , though I prior have never owned a Apple Watch but the ultra is quite nice. I love the new design it’s refreshing 👍🏽
@emilianstoimenov737
2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is very good. Keep it up, you'll be big soon.
@spartanpatriot3163
2 жыл бұрын
When it gets a weeks battery with GPS Waypoint Projection, the ability to completely shutdown all outgoing signals, night vision compatible and full topo map support I may consider it but until then the Garmin Tactics with solar is still the king.
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
Ok I definitely want to know what you’re doing for that set of requirements!
@Anteksanteri
2 жыл бұрын
I actually want one even though I dislike most apple products and don't have an iphone. The ultra is the first thing super close to the idea of a complete package smart watch that you could have for years and years. The feature set also seems pretty interesting.
@My.CreatorTeam
2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with your assessment. It will be a disrupter, Apple has now targeted the group of individuals looking for a more rugged design in a watch, which they feel represents them(as you shared), & the additional perks of it being a smart watch is what will push them over the edge. Many people complain about the battery life, and it does need improvement, but honestly you can get over it when you think of all the other components (luxuries) it offers in that “Apple” aesthetic that the other watches for fitness just don’t. Apple will get many new consumers with this one and then when they extend the battery life to a solid 72 hrs in between charges, the rest will come.
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah nicely put
@betterlifeexe4378
Жыл бұрын
Personally, this just means it combines a bunch of things I don't care about with a couple things I barely care about.
@mobeleashdontforgetyourpho9099
2 жыл бұрын
You gotta love the Ultra.
@BadenHealth
2 жыл бұрын
It could replace my phone when doing hectic activities. For lower cost you can get rugged cases for apple watches
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
It's true. But a $10 Casio is as tough as $1000 branded dive watch and that isn't enough to stop people buying them eh!
@superfast30
Жыл бұрын
The Ultra is amazing. I ditched Garmin altogether ever since I got it! I think it's a bargain when you take its build quality and capabilities into consideration. Nothing else on the market comes close to being as well rounded and capable. You've got the best smart watch, a more than capable gps device and a dive computer all rolled into one!
@mattieuleveille
2 жыл бұрын
Love your content. You would be top of my list of people to befriend. I also drive a tesla and "nerd" out to similar things.
@jezza6575
2 жыл бұрын
Battery life is a major limiting factor for this genre of watch. Apple should have provided at least an innovative solution for such limitations prior to releasing this product. My guess is they’re marketing this watch to the consumer that buys such devices merely for the look or prestige rather than true usefulness. If so, it will be a hard sell against names like Brietling, Omega, Rolex, etc. I’m sure it will be wildly successful for reasons covered in this video as well as the extra nudge that this watch brings to those simply carrying an iPhone and not feeling the need to have an additional device cluttering up one’s life. I’ll admit I fall into this category being a bit of a minimalist so I plan to further research the Ultra and determine it’s usefulness in my daily life.
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah battery life on the normal ones is pretty poor, especially after a year or so. I make do by charging a couple of times a day but I have to choose my times to minimise the time I’m without it (I do wear it overnight as well as it makes a good discrete alarm). Not sure I understand your point re Rolex etc. Are people spending 20k on a watch doing for reasons other than a look of prestige?
@jezza6575
2 жыл бұрын
@@BenVallack Regarding high end watches…their intended use seems to have completely been forgotten by most solely now an identifier of status. Pity as they are the best dive, nautical, adventure watches created thus far. It was a bit of a stretch…I should have equated the new Ultra to the likes of Sunnto, Garmin, etc. Even those though don’t have the battery limitations. Still I find myself a bit bewildered as to the usefulness of some of the Ultra’s capabilities with such limiting factors.
@RiseUpToYourAbility
2 жыл бұрын
You got the target demographic all wrong. The target demographic are weekend warriors who enjoy the occasional dive/hike/rock climb or people that think they do a bunch of extreme sports on the weekend but just end up lazying in bed. They won't buy a dive computer or a specialize garment fitness watch because those can do their respective activity really well, but they suck as a daily carry for when you go to the office. The appeal of the apple watch ultra is that it's really good for every day use where you get your emails or texts, and it can do the outdoor activities sort of well. This watch is meant for casual adventurers whose major need is still in the office. It great for the office especially in professional where you are constantly talking with people. Pulling out a phone in the middle of a conversation can really turn some people off, so being able to glance to see if you got an important text or phone call off your wrist is really useful.
@jezza6575
2 жыл бұрын
@@RiseUpToYourAbility I can agree with some of that. However, when I’m talking to someone and they keep looking at their watch I feel like what I’m saying just isn’t important to them.
@murphykuffour6034
2 жыл бұрын
your youtube videos are so concise and well done it's incredible
@lorenzocortes8949
2 жыл бұрын
The new apple watch ultra seems like a great all around option, my main problem with it is that it's a 800€ device that will became obsolete quite fast. More so if you compare it with an analog or digital watch which can stand decades with regular care. I do like what it enables to you to, but seeing that you can get close to that for half or a fourth of the price I don't see the appeal as much. I would also like from apple to make a longer battery life device. like an apple watch but with a week or month of battery, maybe having less specs or a different screen. Anyway, great video and really interesting topic, I do think that having one purpose devices help focus, but can get overwhelming
@sidbrun_
2 жыл бұрын
You seem to misunderstand what the Ultra is for if you think it will become obsolete quite fast, and even compare it to an analogue watch??
@lorenzocortes8949
2 жыл бұрын
@@sidbrun_ it is still a piece of technology that has its own limitations, next year or the other they'll show you the newest ultra model with more power, features, etc. making this one obsolete (maybe it can stand a few years, but not much longer tbh). It's like saying the new iphone 14 pro won't become obsolete, I'm sure it will and in not that much time. I know it's not a fair comparison analogue and smartwatches, but 800€ is a lot of money and I don't like when it goes to waste in 4 years aprox (although you've been taking advantage of it in that time)
@sidbrun_
2 жыл бұрын
@@lorenzocortes8949 I think what you mean is it will become "outdated" compared to newer tech, it's not like Apple is going to disable the features and make it obsolete. I don't think the feature set is for you if you're not willing to spend €800 on it, this is for people who are actually deep diving.
@lorenzocortes8949
2 жыл бұрын
@@sidbrun_ okay, it will get outdated pretty soon, but in a few years more it will get obsolete imo. And for sure, I don't do extreme sports so this watch is not for me. I'm fine with an open source watch so I can track my exercise and see a few important info
@qwie100
2 жыл бұрын
@@sidbrun_ There are two key issues: First is that the demographic this watch is meant for (ultra endurance, mountaineering, etc) really need a reliable battery life. While the 36 hours is doable now, the Apple’s track record of battery life isn’t the best, especially as new OS versions are released which rely on new processor architectures/etc. 36 hours new can become 24 hours after a year or two, and then a fraction of that as Apple rolls out new OS updates. Second, and partially related to the first, Apple devices show their age pretty quickly with respect to latency/system load. The new OS/App gversions will assume a certain compute power, and over time the current Ultra will become intolerably slow. These two reasons are why I’m sticking with my Garmin for the time being.
@supersnail5000
2 жыл бұрын
Opinions on watches will always be very subjective, given their nature as being half utilitarian and half a fashion accessory, so I definitely wouldn’t say that you’re wrong, but that my opinion greatly differs. In my eyes this is a far worse convergence everyday watch than any previous Apple Watch. Except for divers and [semi-]professional athletes, I don’t think the Ultra offers anything substantially better in regards to fitness tracking over the standard model, and if you are a top level athlete chasing that last percent or your life literally depends on the watch under water, I wouldn’t want to make any compromises on my gear. Meanwhile, the Ultra is a far less versatile watch in fashion terms. The standard design has had a certain degree of elegance and really stood in its own class versus traditional watches, meaning it was appropriate for almost any venue with the right strap. It was a sort of attainable luxury in that you could be wearing the same timepiece as a multi-millionaire for a couple hundred pounds. Comparatively, the Ultra is almost purposefully garish, with its bright orange button and flat glass face, it draws an absurd amount of attention. Especially as the watch world is moving away from larger watches to more elegant ones, this really only seems appropriate for recreational use - I personally wouldn’t find it suitable for office wear, let alone sat around a boardroom table, where the traditional Apple Watch has became a very common sight. Something like the upcoming pixel watch having all the fitness tracking credentials of a high end Fitbit while having a sleek elegant design, or even just the normal apple watches, are to me far closer to true convergence products. Anywho, wonderful video as always, best wishes!
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
Very nicely articulated and your points are all bang on. It will be interesting to see how many people wear these in office/formal settings. Certainly an interesting commentary though - thanks for taking the time to comment.
@kaiichinose9590
2 жыл бұрын
I would have to say I agree with you 💯. Which is why personally I'll be picking up a series 8 stainless steel graphite model as for me in my profession I wear suits and have rugged days as well and during those days there's a plethora of bands and tactical style protectors on amazon. Spot on point of view and thank you good sir.
@andyburns6496
2 жыл бұрын
It’s worth looking at hybrid smartwatches if you want the elegance and classic design of traditional wristwatches. The Withings scanwatch is very elegant with traditional moving hands, a classic case and sapphire crystal. It has all the health tracking features of an Apple Watch including ECG. And with all the sensors turned off several weeks of battery life. With sensors all on it will last 5 full (24 hour) days before needing recharge
@RiseUpToYourAbility
2 жыл бұрын
Convergence devices never work as well as the original intended devices. I do photography, and a phone can never replace a camera. However, if you just want to snap a casual photo, a smartphone will more than suffice. Professional divers have pointed out that their dive computers have to be serviced every year to replace the gaskets and things to maintain its water resistance. How expensive would it be to service the apple watch ultra. I personally think that the apple watch ultra is for casual adventurers that won't need some of the features that the professionals will need. Personally I just want the apple watch ultra for the bigger battery, bigger screen, and the more accurate GPS to make it easier to navigate in NYC.
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. This is a device for everyone really. And I have no problem with that. The aspirational marketing is what it is, but it’s certainly not exclusive to the Ultra.
@mattgryner
9 ай бұрын
That's accurate.
@jasoncrandall
2 жыл бұрын
Tesla isn’t a sports car. All you need to do is Google lap times at the Nurburgring.
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
It's certainly faster than my Toyota MR2!
@Volker_A4
2 жыл бұрын
It does interest me more than smart watches have in the past. Now that battery is of little concern this seems more like a tool than one more thing to keep track of.
@tributetothebestcomedians2
2 жыл бұрын
Why is this Oceanic+ App for the Apple Watch Ultra only available as a subscription type arrangement?.. The app logbook is restricted to a total of 12 dives and offers very basic dive computer functionality without air integration. The only reason I want to buy this $800 upgrade to my existing apple watch is for this dive computer capability. I only scuba dive while on vacation approx 2-3 dives per year It would be a waste of money to pay 12 months of a subscription for only 2-3 dives…I might as well buy a proper dive computer for $300-400 and own it outright, with all the dive logging capabilities included, and no subscriptions required. I won’t buy the apple ultra watch, If a subscription is required to use one of the key functions.
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
I think you can purchase individual days of that app.
@GmailNexus
2 жыл бұрын
Man you're really speaking fast in this video 😳
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was a bit - I didn't have much time - this is trouble with newsjacking!
@tobiasjennerjahn8659
2 жыл бұрын
I agree that a rugged apple watch could eat into the sales of high end sports watches, but I disagree that the watch ultra is that model. From a pricing point, the watch ultra competes with top of the line dedicated sports watches. Most hobbyists who buy a dedicated running/diving/etc. watch don't spend 800$, they go for a more reasonable option since it's just one of their hobbies. That leaves the super dedicated people that are hardcore into a specific sport (and professionals). They have no problem investing 800$, but they aren't going to spend it on something that has a subpar feature set (for their specific activity), especially when it'll stop getting software updates three years down the line. This leaves only two very small groups of people. Hobbyists that want a sports watch, but do not want a second watch under any circumstance, as well as rich people wanting to look outdoorsy. I can totally see a future where the apple watch catches up to top of the line garmin watches (and other comparable brands) in terms of features and maybe even surpass them, but that's at least one iteration and more likely two or even three generations of apple watch ultra away. HOWEVER! If I were a Garmin executive I would by very concerned right now, because apple very obviously declared this as a market that they want to pursue and they have the budget to iterate on this idea until they get it right.
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree the future iterations of the Ultra are going to be insane. But I do think the value proposition is there right now. For people looking at the cellular ones anyway it's only a few hundred more to take it up to the Ultra and you're getting quite a different device. I think the way of looking at is that it's a combination of an Apple Watch with a proper sports watch. So the price should really reflect both of those added together. If you add a the cost of Fenix 7 to a Series 8 the Ultra looks pretty cheap!
@tobiasjennerjahn8659
2 жыл бұрын
@@BenVallack Fair enough, I didn't see that cellular is not a paid upgrade in the ultra. So the price difference is actually 100$ less than I thought. That brings it into the range where I can definitely see some hobbyists going for that instead of a normal apple watch and a midrange sports watch. I still think there are lots of caveats (i.e. going with the watch ultra instead of two dedicated devices means wearing a massive 49mm watch all day), but I'm not about to move the goalposts here. 270$ is a very fair price difference and will make it an attractive choice for a fair amount of people.
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
@@tobiasjennerjahn8659 well put - the point about the size is definitely an issue. I think I’ll try one on before I really start thinking about it!
@Marty72
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think the Ultra will interest the people who use Garmin for fitness. For cyclist the Ultra doesn’t allow you to connect to external sensors e.g heart rate monitor, power meter, lights. Plus Garmin provide a lot of fitness data without needing to pay for a subscription.
@colewilson7204
2 жыл бұрын
This isn’t true, you can connect. It just may not have app support for some products. But certainly HR monitoring, etc. it can
@Marty72
2 жыл бұрын
@@colewilson7204 The point is you can’t connect a power meter to the Apple watch natively, you would need to use an app which generally requires a subscription. Plus the Apple watch doesn’t support Ant+ which many sensors use.
@DerekFizzey
2 жыл бұрын
It’s only a matter of time. Some developer just needs to develop an app and poof.
@biorgoanylchem
2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately watch is not one thing that apple is getting right. What would’ve been a disruptive is if it had a 800mah batter to give it 2-3day battery life.
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
They are claiming 36 to 60 hours
@dejan.
2 жыл бұрын
Sales statistics beg to differ; also initial reviews prove it lasts 2-3 days.
@biorgoanylchem
2 жыл бұрын
@@dejan. I like Apple Watch, infact I’ve gotten evry watch til 6th gen, I stopped bcuz I jus want long battery life man, if it’s 2-3days then I may consider
@pdtheowl9292
2 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always! While it's not the watch for me, I'm glad that individuals who need an Apple Watch that can live up to their lifestyle more are getting what they need! Although I do feel like there will be a lot of "go-pro effect", where people get it thinking they'll do all these crazy and super cool things, but then just use it like a regular apple watch and not need any of the durability 😅 That and people just wanting to get the most expensive one to be flashy
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah for sure - but this is just aspirational marketing, and that is not something we need to be overly cynical about I think - it's really just varying expressions of fasion the way see it. People buy brands that resonate with them through aspiration as a way to express who they want to be - even if their life for whatever reason doesn't let them really live it - I am less cynical of that idea in branding than many I think.
@pdtheowl9292
2 жыл бұрын
I've never really thought of it like that, def a much more positive way to look at it!
@bd93nl45
2 жыл бұрын
Pretty looking Jack of all trades, Master of none. But I'm happy a brand like Apple opens a path to technology used in a more adventurous way.
@jmann277
2 жыл бұрын
my problem with the apple ecosystem is getting the data out of the apple ecosystem (at least in my experience) is crazy painful.
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
Yep once you’re in there’s no going back!
@badkarmaaz7169
2 жыл бұрын
Man, you need to slow down and take a breath.
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
Heh yeah I rushed this one a bit!
@badkarmaaz7169
2 жыл бұрын
@@BenVallack great content, though 🤙🏾
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
@@badkarmaaz7169 many thanks!
@richarddavies2902
2 жыл бұрын
I have had 4 Apple Watches now, and love them... the Ultra is a bit of a let down, I don't understand why they wont add ANT+ to them! REALLY fustrating!
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
Owned by Garmin would be my guess! What kind of devices are you wanting to connect up?
@richarddavies2902
2 жыл бұрын
@@BenVallack when cycling I like to keep track of cadence and power from cranks. When at the gym, a lot of the equipment has ANT compatibility, so getting more reliable and detailed analytics is always beneficial.
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
@@richarddavies2902 that’s interesting - one of those situations where another brand has actually got a foothold in in terms of adoption but Apple are too stubborn to support it because they have competing devices!
@TravisHi_YT
2 жыл бұрын
This video feels more like a sponsored piece. No talk of price value, no actual daily use case proving that it can replace watches that will last 3 years with a single button battery, no exploration of why apple don't use standard watch lugs to allow users to pick their own straps. Bit of a miss video imho.
@Zzznmop
2 жыл бұрын
He does talk about price value relative to other watches. Your negativity makes me curious though… why don’t you make your own videos if you feel so strongly (and claim to have better points to make)?
@TravisHi_YT
2 жыл бұрын
@@Zzznmop It's just some feedback my man. Normally stuff on this channel is more informative or actually demonstrates value (like the electric lawnmower, keyboards or house automation), rather than what seems like marketing material you'd find on apples own website.
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
This one was definitely a quick conceptual look at where I see it fitting in, definitely room for more discussion on that stuff in future videos. I am trying to get this kind of video out while the time is right so I didn’t cover too much more than that conceptual/positioning stuff. Appreciate all feedback!
@TravisHi_YT
2 жыл бұрын
@@BenVallack Awesome! I'm actually interested to see what all the fuss is about. Apple must be doing right if they're selling so many. The main reason I wouldn't buy one is the perceived fragility of the watch itself.
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
@@TravisHi_YT Definitely a fair assessment - my first one smashed to smithereens when I dropped it on the bathroom floor. I would hope this one could take such a fall!
@marcin.sobocinski
2 жыл бұрын
Oh Gosh, as much as I respect Ben for his content, that particular video is a big miss :(. Apple watch and battery life? Really? Rugged look? Just buy Garmin Fenix 7 and you would have to redefine those two aspects in your review and BTW Fenix is not a simple fitness tracker by any means.
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t really understand your point. To clarify my point, the battery on the Ultra is now good enough for a lot more fitness applications than before. No it won’t last 60 days like the Fenix of course, but the number of people who can’t find a charger for 60 days is then a seriously small subset of people. Before the Ultra you’d have had to buy a Garmin to have a GPS sport tracker than lasted long enough for a one or two day adventure. Now you don’t. Now you don’t need to buy a Gshock to get the compass/altimeter/barometer in a rugged package. Now you don’t need a dive watch for a properly waterproof, stylish looking watch. (Last one is much more subjective than the others). And now you don’t have to compromise on rugged style/battery life just to get Apple Watch features. As for the garmin being more than a fitness tracker, I agree it has the adventure appeal etc but it doesn’t hold a candle in terms of actual smart watch stuff like music (apparently fenix battery can’t cope with music at all), calls, messages etc. Then what about smart home integration, controlling things from complications etc. Fenix 7 is super nice (but very good at that niche). Ultra is super broad appeal and almost as good for the niches, certainly for most people.
@marcin.sobocinski
2 жыл бұрын
@@BenVallack "but the number of people who can’t find a charger for 60 days is then a seriously small subset of people" - that's a manipulation, because such sentence is obviously true... but the number of people being annoyed that you have to charge your watch every day (Ultra is up to 36 hours battery life as far as I know) much much larger. I don't understand why we so quickly and silently accepted that one is forced to charge your phone, watch or anything daily?! It's not convenient at all. Of course if you take a watch and it could track your activities for 3 hours before battery is dead and then your are offered the same watch that can track your activity for 5 hours you are better off...but it's hard to say that it's a good battery life... it's just better but still not good. I take your point in terms of smart features (especially smart home integration as I am not a power user here).
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcin.sobocinski for the simple reason that we are all sleep once every 24 hours. So apart from sleep tracking and the alarm (which are genuinely pretty useful) that is a good time for devices to be charging (also has social/industrial implications in the case of cars because it helps balance the load in off peak time). Chucking a phone and watch on a magnetic charger after you clean your teeth is definitely not that much of a hassle. Don’t get me wrong, and you made the same point essential, if someone offered me an Apple Watch that lasted 3 months, there would certainly be a price I would pay additionally for that. But as it the compromise of battery for performance is now a very interesting point where it appeals to a huge amount of people.
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
@@marcin.sobocinski it’s interesting how hard it is to get into the daily charging mindset - it actually took me a while too so I do get it. But having the Tesla really made me appreciate the concept. People used to say 300m range isn’t enough for a car because petrol cars can do double. But that is complete the wrong argument because petrol cars don’t tip themselves up overnight while we sleep. This point so drastically changes the usage pattern that it takes down getting used to but it totally makes sense (assuming our can charge at home, not saying everyone can).
@topofthegreen
Жыл бұрын
Over priced and overrated, only idiots buy this, there are better watches for less money.
@BenVallack
Жыл бұрын
You tell me where to find one and I’ll buy it!
@iaina3251
2 жыл бұрын
As good as it is.. $2000 for a watch and and the compulsoary iPhone is just insane. Especially considering the lack of connectivity with other devices (e.g. power meters) Why spend that kind of money when you can buy a top of the line Garmin for 1/3rd the price and use your current phone and all your existing external devices?
@spartanpatriot3163
2 жыл бұрын
Top end Garmin would be Tactics with sapphire and solar and it’s pushing $1200, with ballistics it’s north of 1500 but yes the Garmin is superior.
@knightrider585
2 жыл бұрын
meh, I will stick to my self winding mechanical watch.
@Zippo_1234
2 жыл бұрын
I would still never buy an apple product
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
Why?
@alterego157
2 жыл бұрын
@@BenVallack Personally, I think it's a very toxic anti-freedom company. Right now software and hardware freedom enables you to do all kinds of cool things, like you did with custom keyboards for example. But in the coming decades software and hardware freedom will become a sine qua on for basic human rights. Companies like Apple are diametrically opposed to that and their future is aligned with a despotic, dystopian "you'll own nothing and be happy" vision of the future.
@BenVallack
2 жыл бұрын
@@alterego157 Super interesting - thanks for the reply. Would love to discus this in a video some day!
@Zippo_1234
2 жыл бұрын
@@BenVallack More like "never again". I have had bad experiences with several apple products I have owned in the past, especially when trying to get things repaired. I also dislike a lot of their business and product design decisions. They do make some very good products, but I have decided to not buy any more of their products
@christopheryeung7222
2 жыл бұрын
first
@TheRealVideoMurder
2 жыл бұрын
maybe a good disrupter but only to people that have iPhones...
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