Love hearing that this channel intends to have a DIY maintenance video library.
@deanmcmanis9398
9 ай бұрын
I am glad to hear that Aptera is waiting to start production before issuing their first public stock offering (IPO).
@andromedach
9 ай бұрын
They have no choice. Trying to IPO before a product has a demonstrated take rate, and no reservations don't count, would lead to no interest and they would probably have to SPAC it.
@jamesengland7461
9 ай бұрын
Some people say the Aptera is a deathtrap; some say Cybertruck is 😂 Most people have no idea about crash safety.
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
I have survived around 1/2 million miles on 2 wheel motorcycles. Aptera will likely be safer even than my present 4 wheel car. Safety in any vehicle is primarily found in driver skill and attention.
@beachbeemer
9 ай бұрын
Some people still think the earth is flat.
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
@@beachbeemer One of our chief Aptera disparagement channels is run by a person who has spent years attempting to build a perpetual motion machine.
@jpslaym0936
8 ай бұрын
Formula one race cars have carbon tubs and are much safer than legacy metal framed cars. Aptera's chassis and carbon tub are manufactured by an Italian company that makes these tubs for Formula one cars Aptera will be one of if not THE safest cars on the road
@randylenart9674
9 ай бұрын
I do like them keeping it right to repair
@Sythemn
9 ай бұрын
I never get the death trap comment since I'll be swapping to an Aptera from a motorcycle :P
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
I have around 1/2 million miles on motorcycles. The "death trap" comment is uninformed. Safety is always primarily a matter of driver alertness and good decision making. Other measures can come into play, but should always be considered a second line of defense.
@GNiessen
9 ай бұрын
I did not have any issues getting financing for my Arcimoto FUV, which is still only producing about 300/year.
@thecuriousquest
9 ай бұрын
Good info! Thanks!
@gbpg2016
9 ай бұрын
There’s a very rich man that is competing with Elon in the rocket business that I’m sure would love the competition to go after him in the EV world, who would risk less than 1% of his net worth to do so. I’d love for this to be the 21st century version of Carnegie Vs Rockefeller. One that benefits mankind because it brings the richest men together to compete against each other.
@d.e.7467
9 ай бұрын
Right?? Great idea! I hadn't thought of him. He probably loses more coin in his couch cushions that would be the boost that Aptera needs.
@louisjov
9 ай бұрын
I watched TalosiveEVs video from yesterday about the Telo truck. Super cool design! The space efficiency and focus on utility is what we need trucks to be, not the ungodly monstrosities that are on the roads today. Definitely a less energy efficient design than the Aptera, but if Telo actually makes it to delivery, that would be such a useful vehicle. It would be really cool if years down the road Aptera made a truck similar to the Telo, one focused on efficiency and utility rather than being a tank like the cybertruck. You couldn't make that as energy efficient as the Aptera, but considering it's length of 152", if you allowed it to be longer, and you did a similar BInC construction, I think you could get some pretty significant efficiency gains compared to the current Telo design.
@robertkirchner7981
9 ай бұрын
I can imagine having a (152" long ) Telo as my "big" car and a (172" long) Aptera as my "small" car. Never going to be efficient with that shape, though.
@jamesengland7461
9 ай бұрын
Steve, thanks once again for all you do! And thanks to your family for sharing you with us.
@billkuhar7689
9 ай бұрын
The winter question should be more about reaction to the third wheel dynamics in rutted snow, the tracks in snow that the majority of vehicles travel in, that is common in urban areas. Being all wheel drive in the first 2,000 should help but it will be interesting to see what it is like.
@DaBinChe
9 ай бұрын
The hub motors will generate enough heat to not have ice build up. My ZeroSR motor (air cool) operating temperature range is between 130*-230*F. This range includes summer in the upper 90s*F on steep hill climbs to winter in the 40s* with rain. Again Zero is air cool while the Aptera will be liquid cool so won't have as high of peak temps but will be over 100*F operating temperature. EVs are relatively simple vehicles so won't have much to maintain. My ZeroSR only needs tires, brake bleed and pads....and a wash once or so a year.
@PhoticsTV
9 ай бұрын
This is one of the discouraging parts about reserving an Aptera… 6:37 - “Around $35,000” That's different than saying around $33,000. Then he says $26,000-$28,000 for the 250 mile range model. That sounds like a $2000 price increase. While not unexpected considering inflation, this is the exact reason I canceled my Model 3 reservation. You don't really know exactly when you're going to get the Aptera and you don't know exactly how much it's going to cost. Good coverage on this channel. The commentary on that part is more realistic.
@WyndStryke
9 ай бұрын
Presumably it depends on which options people pick? The price at the moment is just a best guess from 2019, until they have signed the final contracts then they won't really know the price it will cost to actually make it. The biggest single cost is the battery, so the price of that contract will be key.
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
@@WyndStryke That is correct. The good news is that battery cost has been plummeting recently and the labor cost to make each body has gone way down even though the tooling cost is way up. From here it is difficult to know how this will all shake out by the time they can start shipping.
@golfish8589
9 ай бұрын
With 6"plus snow falls. Two ruts develope where normal 4 wheeled tires track. And snow gets pushed to the center of the lane where the rear wheel will be tracking. This will be an issue.
@AverageJoe928
9 ай бұрын
Yeah my guess is that it won't be great in real snow storms but will be fine for a few inches or after plowing. But only way to find out is to build them and test it out.
@saxman657
9 ай бұрын
Another thought, the front wheel base is a bit wider - will the Aptera really be tracking fully in the same locations as other vehicles?
@arlenbell4376
9 ай бұрын
I’m a LE reservationist and this is the first I’ve seen of this. Thanks for posting.
@FromPovertyToProgress
9 ай бұрын
It is amazing the number of factors that a new automotive company needs to take into account before rolling out their first vehicle - crash testing, insurance, financing, right-hand drive, manufacturing techniques, supply chain, hiring labor, etc. It is no surprise that new automotive companies are rarely a success.
@gmv0553
9 ай бұрын
This video was sent to all the early reservation holders answering questions submitted by us.
@bderoes2731
9 ай бұрын
Steve, at time code ?t=181 of this video you mention Aptera "ramping up" production. (Probably need to go back a minute or so to get the full comment.) But in the 13Dec'23 investor's webinar (video not public), at time code ?t=2976 (49:30 onscreen), Chris answers (my) question about production, and states they will NOT be ramping up. Assuming no supply chain delays, that means the entire Leaderboard will be vacated in 50 work shifts/days of 40 vehicles/day. (He did say that it could take 6 months to "prove out the line" before they get to 40/day.) But he specifically rejects the "ramp up" terminology. So when you say they'll produce 1500 in the 1st year, that's true, but sounds like it's many months later Once "production" begins, they'll produce the 1500th vehicle on the 38th working DAY. If I'd been able to ask a follow-up question: how many LE vehicles (deliverable to customers) might you produce during the "prove out" phase? Thanks again for your insights, Steve. Keep 'em coming!
@unclegeorge7845
9 ай бұрын
Aloha Steve, Thanks for the different viewpoints. Now that's what I call that a disclaimer. Carry On!
@Sythemn
9 ай бұрын
"The average American spends $7000 a year on gasoline" - I'm assuming this was a misstatement because that is just not true. Quick search says the average American spends ~$2k a year on gas with the average family spending ~$5k, presumably across multiple vehicles.
@Matt18001
9 ай бұрын
Yeah with 2 daily drivers we spend 4-5k CAD, in Canada, one pretty much average distance, one half of average distance. 7k seems a stretch.
@mindlessmrawesome
9 ай бұрын
Maybe he meant average Californian lol
@stevemontana1878
9 ай бұрын
I think he confused it with avg annual cost of ownership
@WyndStryke
9 ай бұрын
It was definitely not right. I think he was thinking of a Californian family rather than 'average American'. He did make a number of other errors in the Q&A, I think due to the lack of a script.
@thebigjr9995
9 ай бұрын
There are a lot of people who do spend that much but unlikely to be the average, but I assume he is either referring to the recently inflated price that more than doubled in some parts, or he got confused with average cost of ownership.
@1voluntaryist
9 ай бұрын
If you must borrow to buy a car, don't buy, wait, save, pay cash. People who only judge a cost by the monthly payment are being foolish financially. Paying interest blindly will keep you in debt all your life. Pay attention to your monthly expenses so you can plan ahead, save to avoid loan interest. At 81, I learned over 50 years ago that buying out of the paper from a private party is much cheaper. I NEVER had an enjoyable experience buying from a "stealership".
@ApteraOwnersClub
9 ай бұрын
That's good financial advice
@GoBlesstheSky
9 ай бұрын
When do they expect to begin offering the two wheel drive Aptera?
@andromedach
9 ай бұрын
The sad part is, this QA was far better than the Investor QA which was far too short and provided no new answers. Chris really needs to fact check some of his claims, the seven thousand dollar gasoline is not even true for two car families and with dropping gas prices it sounds sillier. I wish they would stop quoting a price they already said was increasing. Look, if they are holding the line on the price then remove the language from the website stating subject to change. We know if they don't get funding in the next two months there will be no 2024 deliveries. The previous big term sheet seen listed in 2022 fell through and it was worth twenty one million. Telsa 3 can be had at 40k before tax credits as well as VW with their ID4.
@Roberta-q1q
9 ай бұрын
I look at Aptera's silhouette and think: "Who has seen the wind?" Published 1947 by Christina Rossetti (I just checked), I think it would be a great ad soundtrack, when the time comes. The poem, or if Yoko Ono is still too divisive, David Byrne has expanded a lyric from it. I'm a bit irked that both Ono and Byrne skipped the first verse of "leaves hang trembling" to cut to the more dramatic "trees bow down their heads", but I think the poem / lyric captures Aptera's impression, well, aptly.
@jamesengland7461
9 ай бұрын
The average ev price, I believe, is down to $52k while ICE is $48k.
@ccibinel
9 ай бұрын
$60k is a skewed statistic that isn't weighted by sales. It is literally just the average on a list of all EV models. So a single $100,000 low volume vehicle offsets model 3 or y being "affordable".
@paulas_lens
9 ай бұрын
I wonder how much debt-load these "average" buyers are carrying? smdh
@robinpettit7827
9 ай бұрын
There is a guy either in Germany or the Netherlands who is working with Aptera to help accelerate Homologation, I believe.
@kemenyg19
9 ай бұрын
The only country specific homologation mentioned by Aptera has been Switzerland. Don't recall any others.
@WyndStryke
9 ай бұрын
@@kemenyg19 That's correct, but the German TÜV certification body is also informally involved in the homologation process via the German Aptera club.
@adimchionyenadum2962
9 ай бұрын
You are European, I reckon. Any idea on how to make wire transfer to Aptera for the Accelerator Program (AP)? I am Greek and can't make a Bank transfer from Greece. I have queried Aptera but no response.
@WyndStryke
9 ай бұрын
@@adimchionyenadum2962 Can you use a credit card? Note that the accelerator program vehicles have to be picked up from California, and will not be homologated for the European market. Some people may be able to individually import them, but it's likely to be expensive & time consuming. Personally I will wait for a homologated version.
@adimchionyenadum2962
9 ай бұрын
There is a place for credit card, but I can't make a 10K credit line payment. I don't have that level of credit. I was a previous 10K investor before the AP. But I did that by Bank (wire) transfer. In the AP, I don't see a window for Bank transfers from European Banks. Do you know of any other European Accelerator resident in the EU who can possibly help me?
@danmccoy6164
9 ай бұрын
About the only thing I'm worried about winter driving. Is the rear wheel running where all the snow gets pushed. Before the plows get out. But I live in central Wisconsin. And that's really only for a few hours. On a few day's. And getting the all wheel drive. And just slowing down a little. Traction control could handle most of it.
@greggs8292
9 ай бұрын
That is one of the reasons I have a 1K range AWD ordered. Winter driving with snow and sub zero temps in North Dakota to get effective range and traction while not pushing the batteries for longer life.
@Jeremygeo
9 ай бұрын
Torque vectoring will really help w/ this on AWD version
@biffwilliams6191
9 ай бұрын
Not worried about the winter driving. I daily a RWD Miata all year in Colorado with snow tires. It is not wide enough for the twin tracks left by the trucks/SUV's, so I mostly run on the snow. It tends to get icy in the tracks, so grip is often better on the snowpack anyway. True independent AWD on the Aptera will help a lot in the snow. Most SUV's are not real AWD. Open diffs give you 1 drive wheel per axle in slippery conditions, although traction control will send some power to the other wheel. Locked diffs are 4WD going straight but 2WD when turning. The 4 motor Rivians are very good offroad and in snow, for example.
@saxman657
9 ай бұрын
I think with the somewhat wider wheel base in the front and center rear tire, we’ll see much of the same effect as your Mitsubishi, but from a different direction.
@s.k.7633
9 ай бұрын
Considering the acknowledgement in the simplicity of reducing the 43 KWH battery to half versus the significant price differential between the 400 mile vs the lesser range sku, I think my expectation of the slope of further rising prices of the 600 mile sku down the road will likely make it a premium product less geared towards affordability.
@garywozniak7742
9 ай бұрын
To go from the 400 mile to the 600 mile they use 2190 cells rather the 2170's. same "battery case.
@angelreyes6332
9 ай бұрын
Hi Steve! The size of the tires does not affect the grip. Friction force is a function of the coefficient of friction and the weight of the vehicle. The area is not a factor. Basically it comes down to the grippiness of the materials in contact (rubber and asphalt) and the weight of the vehicle. Thanks
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
A changed contact patch demensioncan increase the amount of lateral grip, given the same materials. Wider tires do have more lateral grip for a given vertical load, due to the different front to back shape.
@danam0228
9 ай бұрын
I understand that it is just your opinion, but you shouldn't assume any of the things that you have about financing the purchase of a vehicle, aptera or otherwise. Banks in general will be more than willing to finance the purchase of any vehicle that the DOT allows on the road provideded that the purchaser's credit is good enough. Their credit rating being the determinant of the interest rate being charged, how much the purchaser ultimately pays. Also, just because someone has a lot of money does not mean that they can or will pay cash. They might like not being liquid, might prefer using credit as much as possible and writing off the principal and interest as a business expense if they are business owners. As for snow and ice in the wheel pants, if build up of snow and ice is a problem, the heat from the motor should prevent it from happening if warm enough, but if not warm enough to prevent build up (and doubt it will be) it won't melt the snow and ice except maybe when at a stand still, wind chill being what it is when the vehicle is moving. And IPO news - in general, Chris and Steve have been very prudent, doubt that they would have bled out the company if they had gone public earlier, but that aside, the stock market is in an upswing, so the timing of their IPO might turn out to be outstanding.
@garywozniak7742
9 ай бұрын
I drove in 38 New England winters. ~25 of them were driving 35 miles to/from work. At times in Nor'easters where on ride home the wheels wells would get full of frozen crud and big globs of it would accumulate just behind the wheel. A characteristic of those Nor'easters was that many times when the low pressure area moved away it would draw in sub-zero temps and things would freeze up solid. Usually kicking buildup behind the wheel in the morning would knock enough of the crud off but particularly the front wheel wells on normal vehicles are quite large. They have to be because the tire turns left and right and up an down in them. Between the friction of the tire spinning and dynamics of driving I never had a freeze up while driving. The worst case was in the morning the front wheel were so jammed that the wheels could not turn left or right. If I tried moving forward or backwards the tire would break loose and be able to spin.. but I'd have to grab a crowbar and a hammer and knock enough of the frozen crud out of the front wells to allow the weels to "steer". That's not going to be necessary with the front wheels. They move with the wheel pants and the friction of the spinning tire will maintain a gap between the limited crud that can build up in that relatively small gap between the tire and the inside of the wheel pant. The wheel motors have more then enough torque to break the tires free if there is any overnight freeze up. It's possible that the rear wheels up and down travel could be impeded if a substantial amount of crud froze in it. Time will tell.
@humnpwr
9 ай бұрын
If you get a stone from a truck through your windshield, will new windshields be available
@GoClimbARockEh
9 ай бұрын
Yes
@bsl2501
9 ай бұрын
I hope they don’t IPO before deliveries. Maybe even have one or two quarters profitable before IPO. [With a stance like: „we don’t need extra capital, but we‘d like to lower the hurdle to invest and trade aptera even further.“] And I‘m sure glad they didn’t IPO in 2020 or they’d be possibly in a situation like $LCID (Lucid, just got delisted from Nasdaq). That’s just drama and brings you in a even more financially difficult situation. You can do so much more as long as you’re not publicly traded. Oh and the explosion in stock price with $TSLA in 2020… is partially explained by short seller keeping the stock down for years, and then finally getting blown out of the water. Without the shorts, I guess we would have seen a more steady growth in share price for $TSLA over the years prior to 2020. just my 2c.
@louisjov
9 ай бұрын
One thing I have wondered with the necessity of upgrading the suspension for the 600 and 1,000 mi range versions, Will those two models essentially have the same suspension? If so, will the 600 mile version have slightly more cargo capacity since it has a lighter battery?
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
Suspension tuning such as spring rates and shock damping will be different. Form factor is likely to be similar.
@apterachallenge
9 ай бұрын
Maybe if they start production in 2025 and have an IPO that same year, that will inject enough investment funds to accelerate production even faster for the rest of the 5000 Launch Edition vehicles, and also for the 250 mile version and subsequent versions.
@gbpg2016
9 ай бұрын
5,000? Where did you get this from? The LE is the first 2,000 vehicles.
@apterachallenge
9 ай бұрын
@@gbpg2016 They did mention the 5000 in the video. The first 2000 are those in the Accelerator Program who invested $10k or more. The other 3000 are also Launch Edition vehicles, which have been ordered by other customers through the Aptera website. Not many people realize this, but you can spec a Launch Edition vehicle in the configurator on the website without investing $10k. Those are the vehicles numbered 2001 to 5000. I picked up this information from the guys on the Drive The Lightning channel, but I have also mentioned it in a few of my own videos.
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
@@gbpg2016 that number has not been fixed yet.... If enough orders come in for that model, they will make more of them.
@kevinscott8642
9 ай бұрын
You’re thinking of the first 2000 vehicle slots being reserved for investors in the Accelerator program. But the launch edition is a configuration which anyone can choose to reserve or switch their reservation to. Doing so might help you to get your vehicle relatively sooner, since they’ve said they plan to build at least the first 5000, possibly more, in this configuration.
@Tanquen
8 ай бұрын
What happens to the original aptera reservation holders from the first time around?
@GoClimbARockEh
2 ай бұрын
they had their reservations refunded
@drakeillusion6533
9 ай бұрын
So.... For an APTERA that one ordered for 1000 mileage will be maybe in 6 years from today (4000m in 2025 for 2000 users / 600m another 2 years l 1000m another 2 years). 400 m release date 2025, 6000m release date 2027 , and 1000m release date 2029 and APTERA technology would look outdated and design. Sad ... My car would become classic car by then and I would not do emissions test by then .. lol. I want my 1000m now. :(
@L6Jeremy
9 ай бұрын
like most banks, theyll approve you for a car loan if you have poor credit. It will just be an abysmal rate.
@jeffreypetsinger2967
9 ай бұрын
One thing that was not addressed in this video is that someone who placed an order for a 600-mile version very early on and invested a lot of money very early on could be faced with a much higher price out in 2026 due to inflation. I think that there should definitely be a difference between the price paid by someone who shows up in 2026 and places an order for a 600-mile version and someone who ordered and invested very early on. I understand the need to sell at a small profit, but if the price goes way up due to a long delay, it really feels like they would be abusing their biggest supporters if they charge them the new inflated price.
@davidclark538
9 ай бұрын
Wrong.
@jeffreypetsinger2967
9 ай бұрын
So glad you presented your reasoning.@@davidclark538
@AverageJoe928
9 ай бұрын
No one's placed an order for any vehicle so far. You've either: 1. Put down an extremely small refundable deposit that's held in escrow 2. Invested in the company People pay the retail price when they order the vehicle. For the 600/1000 mile variant that will be 2026+. There's no such thing as placing an order now.
@jeffreypetsinger2967
9 ай бұрын
I placed a reservation at a price for a delivery date that has already come and gone a long time ago. I invested over $20K before the LE option became a thing and have patiently accepted that others will receive their car before me because I do not have enough money to throw another $10K on the pile. People like me, who invested early, and at what I consider to be a pretty hefty amount, have enabled Aptera to come as far as they have. Waiting another 2 years to buy a 600-mile version at an inflated price due to the longer-than-predicted timeline strikes me as unfair and unappreciative of my early support. Someone will be able to slide up in 2026 and pay the same as I do without having taken a huge risk on a company that could very easily go bankrupt, and all I will get for my risk is the pleasure of paying an inflated price a little sooner than that person. I would prefer that they charge "that guy" more money to subsidize my purchase at or close to the original price estimate until they clear out the early investors. @@AverageJoe928
@AverageJoe928
9 ай бұрын
@@jeffreypetsinger2967 I too have invested in the accelerator program and have a deposit down for a 1000 mile version. But I'm cognizant that my investments in the company are just that: purchase of equity in a risky venture. The benefit of the investment is the potential appreciation of that equity, not locking in an estimated retail price for a product that doesn't currently exist. Aptera never implied that their estimates were static and I think it's unreasonable to expect them to do so. If you invested prior to the accelerator program then the share price you paid is most likely lower than the current offering of $10.50. Computershare (the company that manages Aptera stock) allows private sale of the stock. If you feel that your expectations aren't being met you can pursue a private sale and recoup your investment.
@ryanmeyer2118
9 ай бұрын
Does anyone know if the aptera will utilize a biomimicry layer on the solar cells to minimize soiling? Biomimicry is akin to using the microscopic surfaces used in nature, such as the surface of a broccoli leaf. This surface is far less susceptible to soiling, because when it rains the water beads up & rolls off the leaf. This is NOT the same as Rain-X because a surface treated with an layer of a product means that it will require regular reapplication, whereas a factory applied treatment will be able to survive through the life of the vehicle because the treatment is part of the glass. kzitem.info/news/bejne/yoOqvqWKppillGUsi=0Uz_pp9r1UReRdpE
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
All we know at the moment is that Aptera will be using large sheets of thin, flexible glass, for the outer surface of the panels, produced in Hungary. There will may be more IP to be protected before we learn details.
@golfish8589
9 ай бұрын
Why was i not notified of this reservation holder meeting?
@WyndStryke
9 ай бұрын
I don't think it was a 'meeting' as such, just a youtube video. I don't know if anybody was notified. I saw it on Aptera's youtube feed.
@adimchionyenadum2962
9 ай бұрын
No, it wasn't a KZitem video. It was an investor's-only Webinar but held on KZitem for the sake of convenience (capacity). They sent circular emails to all investors.
@WyndStryke
9 ай бұрын
@@adimchionyenadum2962 The reservation holder's Q&A (this video, November 30th) is not the same video as the investors meeting (December 13th, an unlisted video which they sent out the link to). I've seen both.
@adimchionyenadum2962
9 ай бұрын
Okay, I may be confusing things. I got emails for both and watched both in real time.
@jameshwang4750
9 ай бұрын
Is the $2000 investment for $1000 off MSRP and the $10k accelerator investment for 5% off stackable? Total $12k investment for total $3500 off MSRP?
@GoClimbARockEh
9 ай бұрын
yep! with two caveats: The $1000 coupon is applied before the % discount, and you'll only get the full $2500 discount from the 5% off if you're still paying $50k for your aptera
@jameshwang4750
9 ай бұрын
@@GoClimbARockEh so $35k Aptera will only get $2650 off?
@GoClimbARockEh
9 ай бұрын
@@jameshwang4750 My math says $2700 off. Be sure you're taking off the $1k coupon before calculating the 5% discount
@kevinscott8642
9 ай бұрын
@@jameshwang4750 doing the math I get $2700 off (not counting the free reservation), but yes, that’s roughly correct.
@golfish8589
9 ай бұрын
Is the 500 lbs wight limit really a thing?
@WyndStryke
9 ай бұрын
Pretty standard weight limit for a 2 passenger vehicle, if you compare it to others.
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
It is not firm, but ignoring it and shifting the center of balance of the vehicle higher and to the rear will decrease safety.
@robertkirchner7981
9 ай бұрын
@@n.brucenelson5920 I really hope that they achieve a higher front payload limit. My spouse and I plus doggo and maybe a spare tire leaves nothing for luggage at the current limit. I fully intend to respect the weight limit for the cargo area, but maybe the stiffer front springs from the 1000 miler, when installed in the 600 miler, could allow for heavier passengers ?
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
@@robertkirchner7981 Perhaps the validation testing of the PI vehicles will give us more insight into this question. I doubt that a spare is needed if you carry a dc inflator and a tire plug kit.
@upgr8king
9 ай бұрын
Basically just add 1 year to your current projection on the website 😂 until next 1 more year update
@melissagreenmonstergirl
9 ай бұрын
So black wont be made quickly...interesting
@golfish8589
9 ай бұрын
WTFrick $7000÷5$per gal= 1400gal ×25mpg=35,000 miles $7000÷ $3.00/gal=2333galx 35mpg=81,000 miles lol
@WyndStryke
9 ай бұрын
Pretty sure he screwed up his figures there. Maybe a Californian family rather than a random American.
@RomanChaar
9 ай бұрын
My Official prediction, Aptera will not start small scale production till Late 2025.
@RomanChaar
9 ай бұрын
Aptera needs to make a at minimum 4 seater vehicle, 2 seats SHRINKS their potential market HUGELY. Very few people have the cash or space for a 2 seater vehicle.
@GoClimbARockEh
9 ай бұрын
And yet they have 45k pre orders! There is clearly a market for this car. I hope they make a 4 seater in the future, but the 2 seater is perfect for me.
@RomanChaar
9 ай бұрын
a fully refundable deposit is not a clear indication of demand, you have a deposit for a 600 mile variant that likely wont be manufactured anytime soon, they haven't even validated the 400 mile variants yet. . @@GoClimbARockEh
@GoClimbARockEh
9 ай бұрын
@@RomanChaar a deposit of any sort is a clear indication of demand. Sure, not everyone who put a deposit down will actually buy an Aptera, but who on earth would put a deposit down if they didn't actually want to buy one? What kind of nonsense are you spouting.
@RomanChaar
9 ай бұрын
@@GoClimbARockEh Joe mama, a refundable deposit means nothing. REFUNDABLE lol
@anthonybarbuto6012
9 ай бұрын
Most cars are driven with just one person son in the car........the driver. Think about all the times u drive.......where are u going......work.....school.....store.....u are alone. Having the second seat for your spouse or partner covers many more situations......going out on a date.......going out to eat.....a vacation.....Now if u have kids.......aptera is not the car for u......but again.... considering all the things u do alone in the car....work....school..... shopping.....two seats is more than u need. I see a single person buying an aptera to go to college. That person can go out on a date. U marry and drive to your honey moon resort. U sp er and twenty years commuting to a job. U retire and u and your other cat about in your retirement in your aptera. One car.......can fulfill a life time of driving needs....
@RomanChaar
9 ай бұрын
at best they start production 2025....AT BEST
@RomanChaar
9 ай бұрын
600 or 1000 mile variant makes no sense, they wont have the demand or resources to waste on such a trim. There is a reason 95% of EVs don't have more than 300 mile range, because it's a waste of batteries, demand is too low and it unnecessary.
@GoClimbARockEh
9 ай бұрын
Hard disagree. The 600 mile variant is my sweet spot. 400 is nice, but 600 is the one I want. And the reason most EVs don't have more than 300 miles of range is because they're so inefficient that their batteries would be huge and expensive. Aptera's efficiencies sidestep this issue.
@RomanChaar
9 ай бұрын
"is your' sweet spot, you as an individual does not defy the entire demand nor market@@GoClimbARockEh
@johnjohnson3370
9 ай бұрын
So true can't understand why people even give a 600 or 1000 mile a thought 💭 this vehicle is all about saving worlds resources 250 mile one is all about aptera
@RomanChaar
9 ай бұрын
@@johnjohnson3370 I think 400 is a good amount of range for just a few more cells it’s a big convenience for the consumer especially for road tripping.
@GoClimbARockEh
9 ай бұрын
@@RomanChaar the 600 mile variant being my sweet spot is actual evidence that the variant makes sense. You have yet to provide anything but comically ill-informed conclusions, with zero evidence.
@williamsallenjr63
9 ай бұрын
you talk too much. you should let aptera do the talking.
@biffwilliams6191
9 ай бұрын
Then watch the original Aptera video. The whole point of this video is the commentary.
@adimchionyenadum2962
9 ай бұрын
This is a commentary/explanatory video for the benefit of non-investors, or investors who want a second reading or better insights to what was said. We should be grateful to AOC for doing these videos.
@ApteraOwnersClub
9 ай бұрын
There's videos without the commentary available on their reddit page
@RomanChaar
9 ай бұрын
lol right now they can't guarantee the open pilot will be on the vehicle in 2025 even with low volume production, cmon.
@RomanChaar
9 ай бұрын
The features at launch are going to be caveman compared to a Tesla Model 3 (which is currently cheaper). I wonder how cheap the tesla model 3 will be in 2025.
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
Unless Tesla finds a way to dramatically improve their vehicle efficiency, this is VERY unlikely. Bling is not what most of us are comparing for this type of vehicle.
@garywozniak7742
9 ай бұрын
The last time I looked I saw a starting price of around $44k-$45k with no options. The Federal rebate for the Model 3 is dropping to $3,500 on 12/31. I think the base model has a battery with a 272 mile range. Aptera's eventual 250 mile version will be $26k. But honestly, the Aptera and the Model 3 are distinctively different vehicles. Buying a Tesla is not on my list.
@RomanChaar
9 ай бұрын
@@garywozniak7742 model 3 rn on Tesla website is $37k before tax incentives
@RomanChaar
9 ай бұрын
@@n.brucenelson5920 aptera still has not validated what the tri motor 400 mile variant efficiency is.
@RomanChaar
9 ай бұрын
@@n.brucenelson5920what Bling is Tesla providing. Chris Anthony just said the Aptera won’t ship with adaptive cruise control. A $35k vehicle in 2025 won’t ship with that basic feature?!?!?!
@johnjohnson3370
9 ай бұрын
Aptera is most co2 intense manufactured ev
@AverageJoe928
9 ай бұрын
Do you just spend your day looking for comment sections to troll?
@knday
9 ай бұрын
It's not being manufactured yet, so how would you even know?
@arlenbell4376
9 ай бұрын
Amazing how the totally uninformed pop up just to get their name on a comment.
@brianrosenlof388
9 ай бұрын
Logically speaking, since they have yet to manufacture anything, they would have to be among the least CO2 intense manufacturers. This is definitely a troll.
@GoClimbARockEh
9 ай бұрын
Lol you're so wrong it's hilarious.
@johnbauby6612
9 ай бұрын
This is all speculation, rainbows and promises. SMells like bad fish to me.
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
You can take something for that. Do some real due diligence. The ride my wife and I had in November 2021 was not just "Speculation, rainbows, and promises" and the body parts they are producing now will go into a vehicle with far greater quality and engineering than that had - and even though an "economy car", it still out accelerated the first Tesla Roadsters without breaking,
@johnbauby6612
9 ай бұрын
WHO CARES about acceleration!?!? Just like the cult leader elon who constantly raves abput the acceleration of the tesla semi or the cybertruck. WHO CARES? The aptera design is a copy of a motorcycle so it had better accelerate quickly! The yamaha R1 can do 0-60 in 2 seconds. WHO CARES?! How poor is the battery range when you constantly accelerate? DO you have those numbers? There is NOTHING "economy" about the aptera at all. $30-$40k as "promised" prices is a joke for a two seater trike with zero creature comfort. It is a shell around a battery, period. Just as the liar elon touted virtually every spec about his disaster Semi....all except the real important number like what the payload was. So you took a ride in a single demo vehicle they have available for exactly that purpose, to show people something tangible, nothing more. SPaceX has several Starships to show people and they all explode, so what does that prove? ELon showed people a cybertruck right next to a tesla semi back in 2017. So what did that prove. They were barely functional props just like the aptera is. In two years they still do not have anything on the road, safety tested, approved for road use and no actual mass production. Hey, whatever, go for it. I couldn't care less if you buy ten of them if ten are ever made. WHat I do care about is all the lying that everyone involved in this scam continues to perpetuate. NEVER any hard hitting questions to the people who are supposedly making this thing. Not once has ANY supposed "journalist" or interviewer ever asked any hard hitting questions that ANY regular person would. No one has ever questioned why their "factory" has no people actually working in it-ever. Or if it was an actual factory why there is no inventory anywhere. Why does their vehicle keep breaking? WHy has it not done mileage across the country? Why does it still need a chase vehicle following it for when it breaks down? WHat are ACTUAL performance numbers like mileage and not their wishful 1000 mile range that will never happen. Why does the vehicle keep overheating? Where are the important questions people want to know? @@n.brucenelson5920
@GoClimbARockEh
9 ай бұрын
@@johnbauby6612You say they're lying, and call it a scam, but present not a shred of evidence. You ask a lot of questions, many repeated, and most of which could be answered easily by anyone who is following the company. Smells like FUD to me.
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
@@johnbauby6612 Since I have worked as a supplier to the big three, as well as observing many startups, including Tesla in 2008, I can answer some of those questions. Aptera has been much more open with their development vehicles that is typical, even for an established company. The only Apterae produced so far have been early development vehicles. There was a time when the gamma would have been close, but that all changed when the decision was made to have CPC produce the bodies. Overheating is a manufactured story, and doesn't represent what the production intent vehicles will do. We will have solid data results when the production intent vehicles undergo their validation testing. Where is your evidence that the 1000 mile range vehicles will never happen? That seems much more "wishful" to me. In the mean time, the prototype testing has been confirming the calculated performance values.
@GoClimbARockEh
9 ай бұрын
Good news: We have some new Aptera trolls! Bad news: they're no smarter than the last ones.
@ApteraOwnersClub
9 ай бұрын
😅
@tommorgan1291
2 ай бұрын
@ApteraOwnsersClub Smart is running from this never to work car! RUN!
@kemenyg19
9 ай бұрын
The tires spec changed to 195/50R16 with the Delta/PI design.
@glennzajic7318
9 ай бұрын
CA really needs to make some clarification on his statement re: getting a different configuration than the Launch Edition while remaining in the Accelerator program (@16:30). Also in defining whether a person could have more than one Accelerator slot. He implies we could have a reservation for a 600 miler and have it badged as a Launch Edition. They also need to clear up exactly when the $2,000 stock purchase discount will end as I have not heard anybody else say end of December. And the closer we get to 2,000 Aceelerators the more they need to tell us how we can jockey for a particular position.
@merrickhurst4150
9 ай бұрын
On the topic of holding your accelerator reservation vehicle for later, I wonder how the custom badging will work
@DemaGeek
9 ай бұрын
It was an excellent webinar. Thank you Aptera and Steve!
@a5-30-31cts
9 ай бұрын
Thank you and much appreciation to you Steve and AOC for your continued honesty and efforts at full disclosure for Aptera. Largely because of you (especially) and the others in the Aptera community (e.g. Drew@Tailosive, DTL, Bruce, Rich R, etc.), I am remaining locked in for however long it takes to take possession of my #8674 reservation of an LE.
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
Thank you, @a5-30-31cts Much of it rides on the shoulders of community, and you are an important part of that!
@upgr8king
9 ай бұрын
People who have bad credit right now , you have time to get your credit score UP ⬆️ 😂 we’re not getting the Vehicle anytime soon
@geraldh.8047
9 ай бұрын
Or maybe just use the time to save some money and just pay for what you buy.
@fanfare100
9 ай бұрын
Please tell me the camping kit is more sturdy and more mature than what was shown early on.
@robinpettit7827
9 ай бұрын
I plan to get a 600 mile range so I will need to wait, but I can deal with that.
@robinpettit7827
9 ай бұрын
I am also close to maybe about $1,000 per year in fuel spending as I have a Mitsubishi Mirage and get about 35 mpg driving to work 22 miles roundtrip, but maintenance is where I will save.
@andremcamara3120
9 ай бұрын
I am from Canada. I am currently sitting at position #304 on the Leaderboard. I hope to be sitting below #500 spot by the time the Accelerator Program Closes. Hope to pay by Credit Card so I hope that Aptera will accept Credit Card. Still hoping to fly to California to get Launch Edition for my Birthday on July 28th. 366 Slots left.
@kenmcclow8963
9 ай бұрын
Most car dealers won’t take more than $3000 in credit card payments. They have to pay the merchant fees for the credit card which is often 2-3%. If you did a cash advance to yourself and then wire the money from your bank they would take it. Otherwise it would be better to get a vehicle loan
@gbpg2016
9 ай бұрын
By CC? Why?
@adimchionyenadum2962
9 ай бұрын
How did you invest in the Accelerator Program (AP)? I am from Greece (EU) and in in the investment portal, there is window to make a wire transfer for European Banks. There is only a provision for credit card payments and I can't make a 10K payment with a credit card.
@andremcamara3120
9 ай бұрын
@@adimchionyenadum2962 I paid by Credit Card. No issues. Just make certain your Credit Card has a limit above $10,000.00. If not, just load up the Credit Card (shows a Credit or over payment)
@andremcamara3120
9 ай бұрын
@@gbpg2016 I get Rewards by using Credit Card.
@davellis44
9 ай бұрын
Regarding the conversation about the cost of operation, it's feasible that Chris spoke only about average fuel cost but meant to include other cost of operation expenses such as insurance and other maintenance.
@saxman657
9 ай бұрын
A holistic view of $$’s saved is important. Savings may be in more than just fuel.
@abarguy
9 ай бұрын
Seven minutes in, Chris states the average driver spends about $7000 in gasoline. Not even close! I drive 12k miles a year and get roughly 35mpg. With gas prices just below $3/gallon, that’s about $1000 a year. Even if I was driving a gas guzzler getting 12mpg in the highest priced area for gasoline, Southern California, paying $5/gallon, that’s still only $5000. And, realistically, new Aptera drivers will more than likely not be those drivers.
@upnorthyooper1196
9 ай бұрын
I live in the U.P. of MI, The concern with winter driving is the rear tire dealing with the slush pile that builds up in the center of a lane. The rear tire of the car is going to be thrown around in those conditions. For me when conditions are like that I will just drive my old 4x4 truck I would hate to cover my Aptera in salt anyways. I like the right to repair. I am a shop owner, I want to buy something that I can repair myself.
@Lord_Mangoat
9 ай бұрын
1st time seeing this. Thinking I'll be getting mine in possibly late 2025 or 2026. I'm not in the accelerator program, but I am a reservation holder, but not getting the 1st configuration they plan to make. I'm aiming for the Noir with a different interior than what the launch edition will have, but the same battery pack.
@garywozniak7742
9 ай бұрын
Same here. Basically the LE except noir and different interior. I'm way up around 30k on the list. I would switch to the LE if it will help as the time nears.
@Lord_Mangoat
9 ай бұрын
@@garywozniak7742 According to my reservation, it says I'll get mine in 2024, but I think 2025 or 2026 is more reasonable.
@garywozniak7742
9 ай бұрын
@Lord_Mangoat I think your guesstimate is good. I'm thinking maybe 2026 for mine but hoping 2025.
@schultp
9 ай бұрын
With regard to concerns about snow/ice build up in the wheels/tires/wheel-pants I understand Steve's comments that the wheels and wheel pants move as a unit to avoid snow/ice interference (hopefully!). But, I live in Michigan and my EV charge door gets iced shut when we have an ice coating on our vehicles after a snow/ice storm. My concern is that the cool jack-knife wheel pant access will also get frozen shut from ice accumulation. If so, a flat tire won't be a fun event during the winter time!
@netscrooge
9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video! Long ago, I begged Aptera to keep reservation holders updated via email. I have yet to receive a "dear reservation holder" email.
@adimchionyenadum2962
9 ай бұрын
Aptera rarely replies to individual queries.
@biffwilliams6191
9 ай бұрын
I get "dear reservation holder" emails every month, maybe your emails are going to spam?
@adimchionyenadum2962
9 ай бұрын
No, I check my spam regularly, nothing.
@netscrooge
9 ай бұрын
@@biffwilliams6191 Great to hear that others are getting theirs; I was afraid they weren't bothering to send any. All I get are the generic emails they send to anyone interested in Aptera. No, I routinely check my spam, but thanks for the suggestion.
@saxman657
9 ай бұрын
I’m curious about this “subscription” service. I’m new to the EV world so I really don’t have a lot of points of reference. Is this something that Tesla and other EV manufacturers offer, or do they just pay as you go?
@barnabasseadog7660
9 ай бұрын
A subscription model was the reason Canoo first caught my attention, a base model Canoo supposed to go for $35K. This was years ago yet Canoo is still not for retail. Aptera subscription service? First I've heard, also assumed vaporware.
@bsl2501
9 ай бұрын
❄️ ah yes, „heated wheels“ (especially for the all wheel drive version), of course! nice! so now only the typical uncleared snow road slush in the middle of the lane will maybe still be strange to drive on.
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
The fine grained traction control that can sense tire slip and adjust torque for each driven wheel about every 2.5" of tread travel will probably make the experience far less squirrely than it might otherwise be.
@scottgabbard662
9 ай бұрын
@@n.brucenelson5920very cool Bruce. At what speed?
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
@@scottgabbard662 Speed doesn't matter - up to maximum, which will be just over 100 mph. The sensors can sense 32 times per wheel revolution.
@abelincoln78
9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately I’m not sure my old ride is going to make it till they get around to making mine….. I understand they’ve found funding harder to acquire than they were expecting but man that solar fantasy of mine is fading.
@joelsmith4394
9 ай бұрын
That was sorta my circumstance too. I was going to need a new vehicle in the following few years, back when I made my early reservation, and I wanted it to be an Aptera. That forecast became a “now” earlier this year. No Aptera to be had, so I got something else. I am not one to swap cars every few years - just because. Rather I expect to keep the current new ride indefinitely. It will be interesting to see where my interest in buying an Aptera will be in another couple of years when one finally becomes available to me. Sure had no idea that it would take so long; back at the beginning.
@abelincoln78
9 ай бұрын
@@joelsmith4394 when they were saying SOP end of this year I assumed that I’d get mine in 2025. I was late to the party but even mid summer this year they were claiming deliveries to start early next year. Now, they’re saying end of next year, 1500 in the first model year, and the first 2000 go to investors. Pretty sure that puts mine in 2027, so I could lease a car now and it either still not be here OR I’ll have to cut the lease a few months early, keeping in mind my rust bucket is already a rust bucket and a tow truck queen.
@Leonardokite
9 ай бұрын
I thought the rear wheel travels up and down in the wheel well unlike the front wheels. Am I wrong?
@GoClimbARockEh
9 ай бұрын
On it's shocks, yes.
@frankweigand3654
9 ай бұрын
I agree. The rear wheel does move and it will be plowing more snow than the front wheels, which will hopefully be running in the tracks already established by other 4-wheel cars.
@vikasd.7139
9 ай бұрын
Not very forthcoming on affordability.. He should know and achnowledge that model 3 is close to 30K with tax rebates, the 60K figure is BS. On the value of Initial vehicles.. He probably does not know of Fisker Ocean One, which ia already selling 10k below. If volume remains low ehough, may be the value will hold. Is he comparing with roadster? Should compare with model S or X.
@garywozniak7742
9 ай бұрын
The Model 3"s rebate drops to $3,500 on 12/31.
@davidmarlow194
9 ай бұрын
one of the cost factors that the7 have not metioned is the cost of the incentives of the LE. they will add around $4,000 to the cost of the LE's.
@garywozniak7742
9 ай бұрын
Incentives?
@kenwong39
8 ай бұрын
Hi Steve, may I ask if Aptera qualified for the federal $7500 EV credit? Also does it come with cruise control?
@ApteraOwnersClub
8 ай бұрын
No and yes
@davidparsons5513
9 ай бұрын
Regarding wheel ice buildup... with the new pivoting front wheel pants, snow/ice removal becomes much easier.
@davellis44
9 ай бұрын
What Steve said about snow build-up in the front makes sense as the wheel pants are pinned to both verticle suspension and steering wheel movement. However, he ignored the rear wheel which does move independently of the housing and will not be tracking in well-traveled tracks but rather full snow cover as it is mid-lane. Also, I don't agree that the heat from the wheel motors would/could put off enough heat to keep snow and ice buildup from occurring in sub-freezing temperatures and bad conditions for snow/ice buildup - especially given slow and non aggressive driving associated with these conditions.
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
@@davellis44 I will hopefully be reporting on my experience in snowy conditions in Iowa with a relatively early Paradigm model.
@davidparsons5513
9 ай бұрын
@@davellis44 I tend to agree with that. My feeling is that the Aptera will slide over the snow on it's belly and wind up lifting the wheels off the ground.
@davidparsons5513
9 ай бұрын
@@n.brucenelson5920 Take lots of videos!
@scottgabbard662
9 ай бұрын
Unless they accidentally design it in such a way where the snow/ice can pack in under pressure, I don’t think it will be a problem. Rust should not be an issue, course.
@joekovacs627
9 ай бұрын
I can’t wait two more years for my next car. I guess I’m going to have to do something else for the next few years and see where Aptera ends up in the future. Bummer.
@adimchionyenadum2962
9 ай бұрын
Here is my updated Aptera Delivery Timeline (ADT) based on the answers Chris gave in this Q/A video. I encourage folks to save this prediction for future reference. It will not only give them a nuanced and realistic timeline to follow Aptera’s progress, it will also help them keep their expectations tamed😄. Here we go: (1). Q1 of 2024: Funding finalized (hopefully) and commencement of PI builds. (2). Q2/Q3 of 2024: Testings, validations, crash tests, certifications, press releases and show-offs, etc. (3). Q4 of 2024: Commencement of first delivery Accelerator PI vehicles (maybe one or two delivered by the end of the year just to make a point!). (4). Q1 of 2025: Start of real deliveries of first Accelerator Apterae. (5). Q2 of 2025 - end of 2025: Final deliveries of all Accelerator Apterae (hopefully). (6). 2026, and beyond: IPO and the rest of the 5,000 initial LE Apterae. (7). 2027 and beyond: The rest of the crowd😛, Europe, Oceania, etc.
@ApteraOwnersClub
9 ай бұрын
This seems like a very reasonable timeline. This is the timeline I would expect if everything goes as planned so it's a little optimistic but realistic.
@adimchionyenadum2962
9 ай бұрын
Thanks, Steve. Even though I followed everything in real time in the investor's Webinar, I was eagerly waiting for your (as usual insightful) analysis of the Q/A session in order to get a better hold on what was actually said, for my update. If you remember well, I have been consistently doing these production predictions and updates on your channel (and elsewhere) right from its inception from, I think, Q4 of 2021. I am yet to be proved wrong. I however hope that I am wrong this time for the better😄
@Soothsayer210
9 ай бұрын
I hope they (Aptera) also keep in mind that, * most likely Trump will be elected in 2024, a known pro Fossil Fuel person who can take away all those EV incentives. * here in Canada, some of our EV tax incentives are also ending in 2024. (unless CRA comes with new ones). Personally, I feel they could go public in 2024 and raise more capital, if that is what is required to expedite to production.
@GoClimbARockEh
9 ай бұрын
Aptera is not benefiting from any of the current EV incentives, so this would be a net-positive for them! (Edit: at least, not the US incentives. I'm not familiar with the CA incentives...?)
@paulas_lens
9 ай бұрын
If he wins, then what Aptera is doing will be the least of our worries.
@saxman657
9 ай бұрын
A different way of looking at it - if he wins our economy will probably improve, gaining the potential for more investors. Depends on how you look at a glass of water at the halfway point.
@GoClimbARockEh
9 ай бұрын
@@saxman657 let's not get too political here. The assumption that the economy will improve was not proved out by his last time in office though
@paulas_lens
9 ай бұрын
I am tired of companies pricing to what the market comps are and ignoring the facts of the masses bottom lines. If everyone is buying and increasing their debt, that is bad for the market and not really a good indicator of true pricing. But, hey money is all clamshells, right. :( disappointed This is the 2nd CEO who has worded pricing in this way, just this week.
@RomanChaar
9 ай бұрын
"around" $35,000 for the 400 mile variant. They still have no idea what the 400 mile variant will be, likely right under $40k but no tax incentives. This will KILL their demand.
@GoClimbARockEh
9 ай бұрын
Lol you're just full of ill-informed gripes aren't you?
@johnbauby6612
9 ай бұрын
I have a few questions. Why is it that Aptera blew through 24 MILLION dollars and declared bankruptcy in 2011 yet here they are in 2023 STILL with no final model design, STILL no actual production and STILL asking for money. This sounds like the same tesla scam of promising all these amazing things but always tomorrow or next year and IF it shows up it is double the price quoted. The psuedo factory is always dead empty. The solar is far too small to call this solar powered and will NEVER make a difference to any vehicles in the north where there is less sun and it gets cold. This design is literally ripped from the CanAM motorcycle. There will NEVER be a 1000 mile vehicle. I doubt there will be a 200 mile vehicle and so far there are none that can hardly make it around the block. WHat's the story?
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
Your first problem is that you don't know the history. Aptera Inc. - a different company - never declared bankruptcy. When their CEO, Paul Wilber, found that he couldn't raise money for the new direction he tried to take the company in, he liquidated it - years after he had gotten rid of Steve and Chris - who both went on to form successful companies. The rest of your speculations are just as wrong. Why don't you do some due diligence before posting nonsense?
@johnbauby6612
9 ай бұрын
Easy to simply declare someone is "just wrong" without any facts to back up the statement. I don't see any facts to the contrary. ALL of these videos are carefully staged and presented as "journalism" when they are absolutely not. They are designed to generate interest and money in a product that does not exist and may never exist. It is a carefully orchestrated infomercial disguised as documentary. Just as tesla promised the semi and cybertruck to be "delivered" in 2019 at a big public unveiling event....and five years later....three times the price, half of what was promised. Smokeshow.@@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920
9 ай бұрын
@@johnbauby6612 Not seeing any "facts" to the contrary is a failure of proper due diligence. Sure one can find claims that Aptera Inc. went bankrupt when you look at the web, but this is a matter of legal fact that can be checked out. You are correct that the Aptera vehicle may never exist - but the odds of that happening are now MUCH smaller than when they started out - and the quality of the vehicle that will be produced has increased greatly over the same time. I looked into Elio back in the day, and quickly determined it was bogus. The same process has only increased my confidence in Aptera, and it has included discussing the company with their suppliers, a trip to the factory site, a ride in a prototype, and a discussion of the cooling tech under NDA with one of the developers. Thermal design is a professional field of mine, and I have full confidence in what they are doing. I haven't just sat in my chair and reviewed web postings to reach my opinion.
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