"Ninja used to be a little twitchy, but now it's a bit of a mix." An unexpected reminder that Nu is a pretty well informed gamer.
@FroggyTheNinja
4 жыл бұрын
Yo, I thought it was about our boy Ninja as well.
@shamux4043
4 жыл бұрын
He used to play War Thunder.
@Flash4
4 жыл бұрын
I dueled him in Mordhau a few times (Megaman1574 if you're reading this Nu) and he's pretty good, although he only won when I let him :)
@adamz9835
4 жыл бұрын
Delivery was so good! So casual and understated.
@SuperGekkeGerret
4 жыл бұрын
I was a bit distracted by the top limb of the ninja bow .. It looks like it is about to break .. 🙈 Clear story, not mix but match!
@NUSensei
4 жыл бұрын
It actually does have a split in the limb. Might have to decomission it from service.
@jojieid2718
4 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe I just caught the upload so quickly lmao, great video as always! Love how concisely you explain everything while keeping the information interesting
@FruitLoops_
Жыл бұрын
Was at my club a few hours ao and I looked at the bow I was shooting with. Comically, I only noticed it had mixed limbs after watching this video.
@dillongordon282
4 жыл бұрын
Yet another great video for getting to sleep, this guy has basically cured my insomnia. Goodnight
@crater0504
4 жыл бұрын
I thought this was gonna be about using legs to draw the bow.
@jonoedwards4195
4 жыл бұрын
Ah Hah Ha!!
@nightranch6218
4 жыл бұрын
I have had discussions about using a lower poundage or longer limb on the bottom to relief the disharmony from string walking. As you probably know, string walking puts a lot more stress to the bottom limb, causing high vibration and noise. Having the bottom limb(has to be same model so shape of draw weight curve of top and bottom match) lighter or longer might neutralized the extra stress and achieve a better synchronization. I wished that you touch on this potential benefit but perhaps this is really too specific lol.
@space.youtube
4 жыл бұрын
If you've got an ILF bow just dial in some negative tiller and save yourself some money.
@nightranch6218
4 жыл бұрын
I have 5 ILF risers and 6 pairs of limbs. None of them can achieve the same level of vibration & noise as the normal set up with mere tiller adjustment. In my opinion most ILF gears are not designed to have the string drawn from a point so far below the knocking point and they all suffer if you use them this way.
@nightranch6218
4 жыл бұрын
Space Jockey from even tiller to 1” negative tiller in 1/8” increments. I have tried every possible tiller in all my set ups.
@space.youtube
4 жыл бұрын
@@nightranch6218 I know string walking is prefered these days with the bare bow crowd but the noise would just wreck it for me. I feel you bro. Out of curiosity, how far down the string are you walking? And you're dialing in your negative tiller on the lower limb, right?
@space.youtube
4 жыл бұрын
Assuming your top limb bolt is all the way in that is.
@x3roxide
4 жыл бұрын
the archer in me is screaming "TILLER TILLER TILLER"
@GoofBean
2 жыл бұрын
The intro when you said “THATS JUST WIERD!!!” Had me dying😂😂
@peterlewis3038
4 жыл бұрын
I have a bow with a 42lb short limb on the top and a 36lb medium limb on the top. One is a border hex and the other a hoyt g3. Both are also bottom limbs from broken sets.
@NUSensei
4 жыл бұрын
How does that work for you?
@peterlewis3038
4 жыл бұрын
@@NUSensei the bow shoots beautifully quietly and well for an indoor only bow. It is set for only 18m and I also only use heavy (approx 500 grain) easton x23 arrows. I am also shooting it as a barebow so stringwalking as well. I did win the Welsh indoor championship with it last year so it does shoot reasonably consistently.
@feralgrandad4429
4 жыл бұрын
So David, do you get a similar affect if your string walking? I mean by "walking" down the string you're affectively doinh the same thing, or am I way off here?
@NUSensei
4 жыл бұрын
This is correct - string walking does affect the limb sychronisation, so as you change distance, your arrow flight *is* slightly affected as you walk the string. What stringwalkers have to do is essentially tune their bow to their best distance and compensate point of aim for the others. Modern bow materials are so fast that it's not going to completely throw off the timing, but it is an inherent disadvantage in stringwalking.
@feralgrandad4429
4 жыл бұрын
@@NUSensei thank you. I'm using a "fixed crawl" as result of a damaged eye. So I was interested.
@8ballali
4 жыл бұрын
Lovely looking riser. What is it please? Purely for looks, i think the Spigarelli Zen, and the Samick Avante are the two best looking risers I've seen.
@nightranch6218
4 жыл бұрын
8ballali it’s the Bosen Horn. Chinese intermediate level riser.
@musikSkool
4 жыл бұрын
I would imagine the heavier draw limb would flex less and the lighter limb could over-flex and damage. Especially if you do 50 lb / 20 lb. Maybe I'm missing something.
@VeritasEtAequitas
4 жыл бұрын
It would not push strictly linearly
@space.youtube
4 жыл бұрын
Your thought experiment is basically using limb poundage to tiller. In the case of a 50lb top and a 20lb lower it could almost work if you string walked 7-8 inches down the string. You should give it a go, for science and stuff.
@dragoscoco2173
4 жыл бұрын
You can shoot like this, but you will have developed a vertical archers paradox. The problem with such a high difference is that the 50lbs limb will barely bend while drawing while the 20 lbs will bend excessively. This means the arrow nocking point will travel in an arc between full draw and brace. This will impart a high angular momentum to the arrow and it will shoot very high or very low and stabilize much further than normal. There might be a problem with the arrow nock being forced vertically and traveling a bit on the string, shooting any accuracy (consistency) down the drain.
@space.youtube
4 жыл бұрын
@@dragoscoco2173 "You can shoot like this, but you will have developed a vertical archers paradox." lol That's a new one. I think you've misunderstood. The arrow is nocked in the same spot as normal, it's just drawn 7-8 inches lower than where it's nocked. Like 'string walking' on steroids.
@dragoscoco2173
4 жыл бұрын
@@space.youtube It applies there too. As the force will be split unevenly between the limbs, forcing the limb closer to the draw spot to bend more than the limb farther. The nock will travel in an arc in this case too, and it will impart angular momentum to the arrow.
@space.youtube
4 жыл бұрын
@@dragoscoco2173 If you can establish the point at which to draw the string, such that the limb timing is synchronized, the nock point will travel in an arc that is most pronounced at release but diminishes till it reaches the point at which the arrow leaves the string, where angular momentum is negligible. What little angular momentum there is could be compensated for with a higher nock point if arrow riser clearance is a concern. Remember that once the arrow leaves the string any 'arc' the nock travels becomes tangential when the arrow disengages. In short, the arrow will travel in a straight line. Of course l went and fitted a 45lb lower and 55lb top to a bow I have just to see what it would feel like. I can tell you that even with a 10lb disparity the 'at rest' state of the bow wasn't very confidence inspiring. The bend in the weaker limb was pretty dramatic. Let me be clear, I'm not for a moment suggesting this is an efficient means to use the available stored energy of a recurve bow. My point is that if one was so inclined, it could be made to "work". If by "work" one means to create an inefficient, potentially dangerous, susceptible to lower limb snapping setup. Why would anyone want to? Because science!
@space.youtube
4 жыл бұрын
Though I wonder if the nock would be traveling at a different speed to the point at the moment the nock leaves the string? There may well be enough angular momentum to impart pitch at the nock. How much that would effect the arrow before the fletching corrects arrow flight would be interesting to see.
@cookingagainstcancer
3 жыл бұрын
that upper limb looks worrisome.
@pietbourke3209
4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation. Thanks for making the video
@inregionecaecorum
4 жыл бұрын
I would have guessed the result would be an arrow going strongly in the wrong direction.
@hipanny3792
4 жыл бұрын
But why Japan archery's arrow can fly straight?Their bow also has a unbalances limbs.
@dragoscoco2173
4 жыл бұрын
A very long bow, as is the case for the yumi, suffers less from the bad effects of this. Also the limbs on the yumi do not have equal poundage, as the laminating technique is applied differently.
@NUSensei
4 жыл бұрын
This is explained through "tillering". The limbs on asymmetrical bows are not equal in strength. They are shaped so that they do work together correctly even though they are of different lengths.
@ryandapp623
2 жыл бұрын
So I can put youth limbs on my adult riser correct?
@dragoscoco2173
4 жыл бұрын
Important video NU Sensei. But not having a string is not an acceptable excuse, ever :P. Please get a 2.5-3mm synthetic braided rope or string, do some basic fig 8 loop knots and make a 1 minute string for any bow. I would have like to see the 50/20 lbs mismatch. That setup would have bent the 20 lbs limb by a far greater amount than the 50lbs and the nocking point would trace an arc from draw to brace. A highly undesirable motion, inducing a strong vertical vibration in the arrow and forcing the nock on the string vertically.
@Walthanar
2 жыл бұрын
kyudoka: hold my sake
@johnlemuelm.santiago6036
3 жыл бұрын
So if you need a same bottom bottom toptop limbs you shoud have a center arrow draw and your hand is bellow center
@jj987987987
4 жыл бұрын
Surprised that you know string walking, but did not mention a word about using mix limbs to compensate the offset on greater distance targets.
@johnlemuelm.santiago6036
3 жыл бұрын
Yes if its same weight and leght
@athenovae
4 жыл бұрын
Nu! The ninja’s tip limb looks bent!! Ö
@HuttJaba
4 жыл бұрын
Ok so how asymmetric bows work for exemple yumi?
@jonoedwards4195
4 жыл бұрын
Mmm? Good One, Use The Force maybe?
@rossmcleod7983
4 жыл бұрын
HuttJaba I was wondering about this too. Do the vibration nodes on a yumi apply to mismatched limbs, does tiller have anything to do with sustaining frequencies and what does heterodyning have to do with it.....so many questions. Sadly I know nothing.
@chengfanleong6592
4 жыл бұрын
For the yumi, the lower limb is stiffer than the upper limb. This means a downwards force must be applied from the bow hand to prevent the bow from swinging upwards.
@rossmcleod7983
4 жыл бұрын
Cheng Fan Leong is the bottom third shaped for stiffness or is it a consequence of just being shorter?
@rossmcleod7983
4 жыл бұрын
And I imagine the torque that results from preventing the upward swing a bit challenging?
@tjj4lab
4 жыл бұрын
I have the Black Hunter bow with both the longbow limbs and the recurve limbs both at 40lb, I'm really tempted to try and see how that shoots now. Damn you Sensei, why didn't you cover different types of limbs altogether?
@jonoedwards4195
4 жыл бұрын
Would have saved Us Wrecking Our Bows! Ha HA!
@rossmcleod7983
4 жыл бұрын
TJJ I have the LB Black Hunter too and when I tried string walking, I thought I was going to destroy the bloody thing. Hideous vibration and twang.
@tjj4lab
4 жыл бұрын
@@rossmcleod7983 To be honest after trying the LB limbs I put back on the recurve limbs and the LB limbs haven't seen the light of day since. They are simply perform so much worse than the recurve limbs (at the same poundage) My 40lb LB limbs have very similar gaps to my 30lb recurve limbs. I'd say the 40lb LB limbs are better than my 40lb recurve limbs for close range as the gaps are smaller, but being higher weight I'd prefer just to use my lower 30lb recurve limbs for comfort. I just don't get LB limbs I guess, to me they just seem worse than recurve. More effort for less speed.
@rossmcleod7983
4 жыл бұрын
TJJ well you got me there, not tried the recurve limbs, but I have noted some mixed reviews about them. Think I’ll buy the recurve limbs at 40# and give them a whirl. Quite fond of my LB BH, but since it’s my first bow I know next to nothing. My 30# LB limbs come in at 39# on my 29” draw too.
@tjj4lab
4 жыл бұрын
@@rossmcleod7983 Don't get me wrong I'm not saying they are bad limbs, I can still group in the gold once I've adjusted my gaps, and if bow limb styles are unsilenced I find the LB limbs much quieter. I noticed it at longer distances, at 40yards my recurve limbs where point on, where as my LB limbs I had to aim the arrow above the target. Nothing wrong with LB limbs on the BH, but if I've got the choice, Id take more power for the same stress on the fingers every time.
@petersogono6612
3 жыл бұрын
I have a 21” riser and a friend gave me 68” limbs. Can I use them together. Are they compatible.
@baylego
4 жыл бұрын
sure, I even seen people shot with their feet
@charles3979
4 жыл бұрын
And if you use a pvc bow, one of the "limbs" will crash
@theamazinggoldfish8713
4 жыл бұрын
At last an advantage for the compound bow.
@DarxusC
4 жыл бұрын
What?
@Waltham1892
4 жыл бұрын
So, if I need a 44 pound limbs, I can use an upper 46 and a lower 42? Cool!
@Hornythorynque
4 жыл бұрын
This is EXACTLY what he said
@cheachyang3502
4 жыл бұрын
Hi expert can I use a G10 material as a bow limb ??? Thks expert
@jonoedwards4195
4 жыл бұрын
I Hope Those Scumbags Got, Get What They Have Coming? Great Show, never thought of this? Good Stuff Nui.
@spongebobsquarepants8403
4 жыл бұрын
second
@BattersStoch
4 жыл бұрын
Слава Україні!
@thetankhunter7925
4 жыл бұрын
First
@teranovski
4 жыл бұрын
good for you now go get a cookie
@thetankhunter7925
4 жыл бұрын
@@teranovski I certainly will
@teranovski
4 жыл бұрын
@@thetankhunter7925 but not before you eat your meal.
@thetankhunter7925
4 жыл бұрын
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@teranovski
4 жыл бұрын
@@thetankhunter7925 no or else you will go to your room hungry! sir you are a real funny person. i salute you.
@demonsemen1
4 жыл бұрын
An interesting topic. Never thought anyone would even bother.
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