Quite a few places have these bows lying around. We take a look at them and offer advice on maintaining an archery program. === Follow me on Facebook: / nusensei
Those old red Indian bows are probably the most durable piece of archery equipment ever manufactured on a large scale. They may not group as well as a proper recurve, but compared to today's "youth bows" such as you've shown, their performance fit and finish are stellar. I've seen a person show up to a range with one of those strung backwards and draw it to 28" before anybody could stop them, pulling the string off the nocks and dry-firing it backwards. The bow (and shooter) somehow survived.
@5tonyvvvv
6 жыл бұрын
Osage is good, its tough stuff..
@pyro.augh23
Жыл бұрын
i have one of these old fiberglass bows at 45 pounds, i love it for target practice and even hunting, ive gotten pretty accurate with it.
@peterxyz3541
9 жыл бұрын
I always advocate to use the lightest bow to train form. Accuracy build self confidence quicker than pulling 50lb.
@hejgoranfesdu
8 жыл бұрын
i started in 1988 with a bow like that type :) and won my 3 first competitions with a bow like them :P and the other gyus had more high class bows then they were a bit supprised
@sheevthesenatepalpatine8863
4 жыл бұрын
Got a black one at a garage sale for $5, somehow it’s more accurate than all my $250 bows put together
@beesmongeese2978
4 жыл бұрын
Draw weight?
@sheevthesenatepalpatine8863
4 жыл бұрын
Obese Mongeese 50 pounds
@beesmongeese2978
4 жыл бұрын
@@sheevthesenatepalpatine8863 Good to know they exist. I've been looking for one for ages.
@sheevthesenatepalpatine8863
4 жыл бұрын
Mine says Martin on it if that helps
@beesmongeese2978
4 жыл бұрын
@@sheevthesenatepalpatine8863 Yes it does, thank you. It's so strange how hard to get they are. Makes me want one even more!
@TheAngryHippie
4 жыл бұрын
NUSensei, thank you so very much for all these videos.
@social3ngin33rin
9 жыл бұрын
We have one random red indian recurve bow at the boy scout camp in lake arrow head, we also have two random small blue bows shown. From a sample size of at least 2 thousand kids this summer, there were only a few kids that were able to do a full draw on it and aim. Our primary bows were the Genesis compound bows.
@Motoguzzi750
9 жыл бұрын
haha that was my first bow!!! I gave it to my brother in law - however I moved onto a compound in 1983 and still using the same one.....
@Yourmomma568
6 жыл бұрын
i had that blue one when i was 7... brimgs back memories.
@whimsofawyvern
3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed archery in High school and these are the only bows that I have ever used. Though the bows had bare string and no arm or finger guards were used... My first sessions I started off well with good aim. With classmates presuming that I've done it before... Years later I was given an old school bow with a good string. Though the bow is faded in colour. I have never used it. Don't have arrows for it either... It's currently a nostalgic ornament.
@jacksonneylan9009
9 жыл бұрын
I remember using things like these on school camp. Nothing like your recurve or my Hoyt Maxxis 35. It shoots like a dream. Even though I'm a compound guy, I don't mind having a shot with recurves either:)
@marthaanderson2656
8 жыл бұрын
Ha Ha Ha I had to turn down the sound curious about what bird was singing outside my window. 8-D I am advance beginner impatiently awaiting my riser to ship in from vendor ( to the shop) I wish I had watched THAT video before I procrastinated at going to the shop, which is attached to my club. Enjoying your videos very much and learning a great deal. The video on setting up a recurve and checking measurements I will watch over and over. We went over it in class yesterday an d I was happy to see, in person, much of what you presented. I took my first class series ( not at my current club) from a gent who made his own wooden bows much like these.
@2bingtim
5 жыл бұрын
I love these bows, especially the DACO range & have a 60" Indian 25-32lb(depending on the draw length), a DACO 60"30lb, a Jaques 60" 35/40lb & a 54" 18lb (+ a couple of ultra basic Armex solid glass bows for kids), which I generally use to tech friends & family the basics. They're almost indestructable. The Indian was the 1st adult bow I got, I was shooting a kids Slazenger 48" short-drawing to c23-23.5" just c15lb, & I was tempted to stop after first shooting the Indian as it was so much more powerful, especially at my proper draw 30-31". I got over that, went on to a 42lb take down to finish learning before going on to horse bows & Samick SKB hunters. Those solid glass bows do a good job, not up to the normal standard, though the DACO 60" 30lb virtually matches my lightest SKB for distance if not accuracy. NUSensei's advice, to always learn on a very easy draw bow, should be standard procedure. I'm always addressing the myth that you have to be strong to do archery. You should always be shooting a bow that is completely within your control & you should be able to shoot all day without strain or hazard. You don't learn to drive in a Ferrari or F1 car, but usually a cheap basic hatchback. Choose a bow within your strength after taking advice from a good archery shop or archery coach. Always wear a bracer & finger tab/proper shooting glove. The 1st lesson is not how to shoot a bow, it is shooting line & range safety.
@griffinhumphreys6169
7 жыл бұрын
So many younger people (teenagers) at my club and school think they are beast and buy or use heavy bows cause they are cocky and have a draw weight ego I can shoot a 60 pound traditional bow easley but my bow is 45 because it's comfortable and I can shoot it all day
@greg4275
5 жыл бұрын
Gryphon good old English longbows start at 90 pounds And that’s a beginner draw weight.... “Hurt hurt hurr you are a pussy if you don’t start on 90 pounds hur hurr hurr” Those guys are like the 650 starters, really..
@alexanderflack566
5 жыл бұрын
@@greg4275 No, they started on low draw weight bows as children. Adults tended to start at 90+, but that's because they had been working up to it for a decade or longer. In medieval times, archery was very much a societal investment.
@fuge74
6 жыл бұрын
I found it funny, when I was in the boy scouts I was always turned down from archery, there was a stigma against smaller fellows shooting high poundage bows. the first bow I got my hands on and shot was 61" re-curve with I think #50, with your advice I managed to "school" all my hecklers.
@jj987987987
5 жыл бұрын
That is why you can never be good in archery. First bow at 50, that means no one ever teach you how to shoot properly. It's a huge misconception to believe higher poundage equals higher skill, and you are still stuck in there.
@caseysmith544
2 жыл бұрын
Bear Still makes from a 15--18 pound bow, a 20--24 pound bow, a 25--29 pound bow, and a 30--35 pound bow in all fiberglass. These bows are fine but the biggest model, I recommend a bow from SAS called the Robinhood that is same weight since the grip on the Bear Firebird 30--35 pound bow can be too small for bigger hands and they have to add the hockey tape to the bow gluing the end down to prevent coming undone just to have a better grip. The other bows they will work even for bigger hands or adults.
@boomerangchannel78
8 жыл бұрын
I teach a lot of kids using Ragim and PSE Razorback takedowns with a higher than fistmele brace height. (I don't have a say in the equipment). What I have found is that they rarely need arm-guards because the string never hits their bow arm. All I do is check that they can't hyper-extend their bow arm. If they can, I give those archers an arm guard to wear. It saves a lot of mucking around with equipment.
@MaestroMattX
9 жыл бұрын
Good info - I got a glimpse of my school's gear the other week and I think I may be following your advice! Some of it hasn't seen the light of day in over a decade I would wager! P.s. Wow so much brighter! haha
@NUSensei
9 жыл бұрын
If you need new bowstrings made, let me know :)
@MaestroMattX
9 жыл бұрын
NUSensei First on my list, mate! :)
@DamienLanders
7 жыл бұрын
these tips are great 👍👍 especially for the fingertips and armed guards being overlooked fingertips does come in handy for protection and quicker release
@HLLTAF
2 жыл бұрын
Me I like the longbow and those clean bows without all the bits and bobs attached. Not an archer yet but love the historical weapon bows.
@Kindrick
6 жыл бұрын
Remember: *NEVER DRY FIRE!*
@ireec7428
8 жыл бұрын
I have one of the red Indian bows with a new string and my own arrows and it's fun to shoot at 10 or 15 yards
@reverndidahospud1584
7 жыл бұрын
Good Job! A very watchable presentation.
@imbe.
8 жыл бұрын
It sounds such a fun idea to find a old vintage bow like that Indian fiberglass recurve. But i cant find that similiar red one anywhere. It would be such a nice add to my hobby. As backyard shooting is so fun and harmless with good safety in mind. I thougth that kind of bows are common item in archery stores. But ohh boy how wrong i am.. again :D
@caseysmith544
2 жыл бұрын
These types of bows in the 25--30 pounds are made for those shooting in high school age I assume since this is a good starting weight for even the smaller kids. Some companies up until the 1990's like Ben Person before the company fell apart, they were making the bigger hunting weight fiberglass bows. Currently Bear has some models from 18 pounds to a 30--35 pound bow that are all gray but older models were green in color like the green bow you have. Also, the Bear brand Titan is as close as they make to this bow style of the Indian bow. The Bear Titan is the 30--35 pound bow that some have used to do hunting big game in USA/Canada assuming the area has minimum draw of at the most 35 pounds and the drawer is pulling this poundage with the bow but normally I would advise against this since fiberglass the speed in FPS/MPS is directly related to the bows poundage with all fiberglass bows.
@dylangreen9819
7 жыл бұрын
I still the red indian bow. I used it because my neighbor gave it to me for almost 2 years. I shot some old made in the usa (very old) gold tip hunter pros. I bought a sag recently because it was a much better upgrade. my sage is 35 pounds which I am comfortable with right now. but I do shoot a 1965 bear grizzly I'm 45 pounds sometimes. very smooth bow.
@gozer87
6 жыл бұрын
I still have my Indian fiberglass recurve. My dad gave it to me after my wooden toy bow snapped from overuse. I even take it to the range and 3d course.
@ixoid
4 жыл бұрын
Great info source, just what I was looking for
@dougeldredge
3 жыл бұрын
i bought a barnette phoenix, at garage sale, all fiberglass, i got a string for it , 60 in., its 30 lbs, sweet shooter, my others are 40lbs black hunter , 55lbs pse longbow, but i dig this lil 30
@briananuvattanachai6646
5 жыл бұрын
I have a bow like this except it's a Ben Pearson and it's draw weight is 40 lbs. How would I clean it? It's been collecting dust I just want to make sure that I am properly taking care of it.
@briananuvattanachai1400
8 жыл бұрын
My bow is 40 lbs should I still use the push pull method?
@NUSensei
8 жыл бұрын
A stringer is easier in this case. You can still use the push-pull method (and fiberglass bows aren't as prone to damage and twisting as wooden bows).
@larrymatthews4287
8 жыл бұрын
Very good as always Sir.
@IIrandhandleII
5 жыл бұрын
Haha old school because they are old school bows nice!!
@SuperJhon360
7 жыл бұрын
I have one like that fiberglass bow its shakespear co 40 pound green recurve its fun to mess with
@DamienLanders
7 жыл бұрын
How do you fill about the homemade pvc bows? I made a few that work pretty good
@brianwyters2150
6 жыл бұрын
You drew the string with your bare fingers during your demonstration. Is a finger tab necessary?
@NUSensei
6 жыл бұрын
They have no-glove rubber grips on the string.
@nancytimmer9026
6 жыл бұрын
As you go up in weight, tabs are needed. It eliminates the danger of pinched nerves and tendons.
@ward6070
3 жыл бұрын
The bow nocks came off my old Scout fiberglass bow, think the nocks were plastic. Any idea where I can get replacements or how to possibly make them!!! Thanks for the great videos!!!!
@imbe.
8 жыл бұрын
Got one today and the arrow clearance seems to be the biggest issue. But it shoots well and its fun alternative for Olympic archery :)
@MrWizardjr9
8 жыл бұрын
yes i remember using them in junior high and 80% of the time the fetching hits the side of the bow and it goes flying to the right
@imbe.
8 жыл бұрын
john li My attempt to install an arrow shelf was kind of successful, but it came off too easy (not enough surface to attach it.) Its still so much fun to shoot for change :) I will try some epoxy glue, when i have time for it.
@adamgradowski5835
9 жыл бұрын
What would you recommend as a first recurve bow? I have shot compound competitively for 9 years.
@DarkThunderism
9 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of taking up archery as a hobby and I was thinking of using a traditional bow, but the problem is that I'm a big, bulky guy and I don't know my draw or pull. I believe my draw is more than 28", but I'm confused how much should I pull to begin with.
@NUSensei
9 жыл бұрын
Strength doesn't matter if you don't have a grasp of form, and unless you really need the heavy weight for something (e.g. hunting or long-distance target shooting), there's no immediate benefit to starting high. Using a 30-35# should be fine, and with a takedown bow, you can always swap the limbs out for heavier ones later on.
@DarkThunderism
9 жыл бұрын
NUSensei I do have some archery experience from years ago, but nothing too recent. Thank you for the answer!
@boomerangchannel78
8 жыл бұрын
+xXInfXx Take the longest arrow you can find and place the nock point against the bottom of your throat/top of your sternum and extend your arms in front of you. Mark the furthest point both middle fingers reach. That is your draw length.
@briananuvattanachai1400
8 жыл бұрын
I have one these kimd of bows except it's a 40# Ben Pearson recurve bow would you recommend putting a strike plate and a arrow rest on top of the plastic handle so it doesn't scratch and wear down the fiberglass and the plastic self?
@NUSensei
8 жыл бұрын
I guess you could. They weren't design with rests and strike plates in mind though.
@TruthBeliever5557
Жыл бұрын
Where can I get this bow.
@alecpost
9 жыл бұрын
Does anyone have any thoughts on the Hoyt Grand Prix Horizon Pro? Im looking to buy one as my second Olympic Recurve riser.
@kenken8765
4 жыл бұрын
Is it still possible to buy one of these? a 30+ pound bow of this?
@GrabSomeSeat
8 жыл бұрын
Would you consider Bass Pro Shop a good "archery" store or would you rather go to a dedicated, archery only store?
@NUSensei
8 жыл бұрын
Bass is not an archery store. They're a general sporting store, and the quality of service is not the same as a dedicated archery store.
@briananuvattanachai1400
8 жыл бұрын
How do you string these types of bows do you recommend a bow stringer or can you use the step through method or the push pull method?
@NUSensei
8 жыл бұрын
These bows are light enough not to require a bow stringer, and with the sheer number you may have to work with (if using these for a camp or school), it's easier to just push-pull (my preference).
@joseph2219801
9 жыл бұрын
Whats your draw weight? I've been thinking about getting a recurve, I'm tall but not big. I've been shooting a 60 lb compound bow some and I feel going 50 lb would be better
@NUSensei
9 жыл бұрын
I shoot a 40# recurve (around 33# at my current length and setting).
@NotenoughtTea
9 жыл бұрын
My school has these bows.They haven't been used for about 20 years and are laying in storage strung. O.o
@CHR32191
8 жыл бұрын
I want to buy a bow at Walmart or Amazon. I'm not looking to compete just to shoot ones in a while. Any thoughts on that? I rather buy cheap one than go to a range and pay a $100 to shoot once. Any thoughts? I seen some at Walmart for around $70 so I figured I can just go to a park and save money that way.
@NUSensei
8 жыл бұрын
I'd budget around $150 for the bow itself, plus more for accessories (arrows, finger tab, etc.). The Samick Sage is your benchmark. Any bow of that type in that price range is going to do the job for you. I've never heard of a range that charges that much for a shot, however. It'd ludicrous that a single session would cost as much as a bow. Be conscious of safety and laws when it comes to using public space for archery. In many areas, it would be considered discharging a weapon in public.
@imbe.
8 жыл бұрын
How is that bow even called? If i ever want to keep looking.
@johnlaccohee-joslin2113
7 жыл бұрын
Again I notice that when talking to the average beginner it is a must, without ecception to make the ststement that a bow, regardledd of what type is never draen dry(without an arrow in place pointing in a safe position, i.e. not and anything or anyone othe than the target. Failer to take this onboard straight away canresult in an explodion riser, the end result being exstremly painfull hand full of wood splinters or a burnt hand when talking about mag alloy risers. Thevreason is very easybto explain. The bow stores energy which is tranfered to thevarrow via the string. This is attached to the bow, andbwhen pulled back (drawn) all the energy is stored somewhere, usually in the limbs and the riser( the handle) . If let loose without an arrow there is nowhere for the energy to go and there is no more common place than at the centre , just where your hand is, because the energy is stored toeards the centre ofbthe bow, thevenergy from both limbs sends the energy to the riser. I can asure all those who are not sure about this, it is the most painfull thing going as well as very dangerous to those nearby. SO DO NOT RELEASE AN EMDXPTY BOW, LET IT BACK DOWN SLOWLY RIGHT BACK TO THE STILL POSITION.
@jackkraken3888
6 жыл бұрын
Good advice, but I think you need to edit your comment to make it more readable, move your mouse to the top of the comments and you should see on the right hand side 3 dots arranged vertically, click on the three dots and you should be able to edit the comment or delete it, choose edit and you should be good to go.
@Gamerdude535
9 жыл бұрын
I have an old short fiberglass recurve bow probably made by the same people that made the red recurve bow you show in this vid, lol though I damaged it slightly through a moment of stupidity (I previously didn't know you're not supposed to dry fire a bow :P)
@eric1138
5 жыл бұрын
I have an Person Spoiler. I bought it in late 80's or early 90's. Is that old enough for ya? :)
@waynemizer4912
2 жыл бұрын
Not bad, but I recently began using my Ben Pearson Pony #25 bow from 1966.
@ash-py8hx
6 жыл бұрын
If you bought a bow form Amazon you can get help form a archery stores and instructor
@imbe.
8 жыл бұрын
I found one of theese bows in ebay and brouhth one for my self as birth day present for my self :) There is this one guy who is selling theese. Looking good ^^ I always wanted one just for fun :)
@Lo-tf6qt
7 жыл бұрын
Have you tried an authentic Longbow before?
@DestricaUKGaming
9 жыл бұрын
Nice Video! By the way, are forge plus risers good for beginners?
@MaestroMattX
9 жыл бұрын
I bought an SF Forge + riser as my first riser and it has been brilliant. I've used it as both Barebow (with weights) and as Olympic style and it has been very comfortable in both setups. They look very cool too!
@DestricaUKGaming
9 жыл бұрын
Ive just bought one as my first bow, im shooting 31lbs at 14 and cant wait for Xmas!
@NUSensei
9 жыл бұрын
The Forged+ is one of the best bows that you can get as a beginner/intermediate.
@DestricaUKGaming
9 жыл бұрын
Nice to know, love your vids, helped a lot!
@scottiedoesit9480
9 жыл бұрын
NUSensei Pros and cons of the Forged+ compared to the Hoyt Horizon??
@qwert_au
9 жыл бұрын
Nice haircut! ..weird that I noticed? Guess I watched too many of your videos haha
@briananuvattanachai1400
8 жыл бұрын
Shooting off the self with feather fletched arrows won't do much harm to the bow won't it?
@NUSensei
8 жыл бұрын
None.
@briananuvattanachai1400
8 жыл бұрын
+NUSensei thanks for the help most comments I ask for other KZitemrs aren't answer.
@nancytimmer9026
6 жыл бұрын
I found that with a high enough nocking point, you can even shoot vanes over a shelf. Feathers would always be my first choice
@namethatisnottakenyo
5 жыл бұрын
The title is kinda misleading. Was expecting a very different topic.
@bildova
6 жыл бұрын
dude, I want your shirt
@artestichniifilin2701
4 жыл бұрын
why is the football playing kid is muscular? he isn't pulling it with his legs... hopefully... Or by football do you mean fake rugby with protection?
@KingBasan
4 жыл бұрын
They look better
@torrodash709
6 жыл бұрын
I would be happy if my school want to have a camp. And we get to shoot a Win&Win bow.
@another5961
9 жыл бұрын
2:04 dat form do
@bilbo_gamers6417
7 жыл бұрын
Outdated? Dude it's a fuckin bow and arrow.
@haohyou12
6 жыл бұрын
Bilbo_Gamers youre right, nothing about bow and arrow technology has ever changed. Nitwit
@nightwing7621
3 жыл бұрын
😄my friend u dont know India.
@wayne2wax
6 жыл бұрын
note: when you wanna sound 'hip' and you wanna use their lingo, ya gotta say, "Old Skool" when writing it down. If you write it as "Old School" you just sound like an old 'Tool'. Don't be a fool, stick with your vintage and just say, "Olden era School-Bows - and Problems.: But I forgive you in [just] this context [ONLY] becuase it works as a gag !
@LH_Vagrant
6 жыл бұрын
Wayne2WAX I hope you realise 'old skool' is no more than a bastardisation of the perfectly valid 'old school'. Usage of 'old school' has nothing to do with you trying to be hip. Rather, using 'old skool' is an indication of one trying to sound 'street' and suggests the user being a typical angsty teen.
@thegentilehunter
5 жыл бұрын
old, school bows or old school, bows. you have failed your job title.
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