"Lose divine shield"-Paladin (also from Knights of the frozen throne) was also a failure ^^'
@oestrogen4973
3 жыл бұрын
paladin has so many things. I feel they just threw stuff at a wall and saw what stuck. sometimes it works with dude paladin, mech paladin etc. but we have heal paladin whcih was probably the worst one
@BigFatCock0
3 жыл бұрын
Lol they're bringing it back and it's kind of busted.
@trion_onyxis
3 жыл бұрын
@@BigFatCock0 True, they combined divine shield with handbuff and it seems to work really well
@alexstrigle5599
3 жыл бұрын
5:55 not even kidding I literally just realized Iron Sensei was a rogue card and not a neutral
@ottosan969
3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a battlegrounds original card. And I've been playing since Nax
@MikhailNijegorodsky
3 жыл бұрын
Bruh, token treant druid was very good and strong deck in decent of dragons expansion
@spookybanana6987
3 жыл бұрын
That was my favourite deck in the expansion
@ketchubb
3 жыл бұрын
standard player vs wild player
@omologo95
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, in Standard. Solem only talks about Wild.
@joabpelling462
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I loved that deck it was soo fun
@randomname9723
3 жыл бұрын
It's also tier 1/2 right now
@sheda111
3 жыл бұрын
Explore un'goro was used in a weird warrior combo deck which used king togwaggle for swapping decks, then explore un'goro, and if the enemy swapped decks back you would use that one 6 mana tech card to make them fatigue. Yeah, pretty useless
@kobban63
3 жыл бұрын
Skulking gist
@battologon5899
3 жыл бұрын
Token Treant Druid was actually pretty good. You even Ran the 7 Mana treant Legend
@russianotaku470
3 жыл бұрын
yeah it was tier2 maybe even tier 1 one for one expansion. But he talks about wild only. probably...
@russianotaku470
3 жыл бұрын
hey odd mage was also high tier for expansion
@russianotaku470
3 жыл бұрын
and you ran divine shield dragon with murlock after late expansion nerf. Yeah definetly only taking about wild. But then the videos premise is kind of stupid.
@maus6199
3 жыл бұрын
in standard, yeah, I played it too, sadly it never worked in wild
@pabenjamin94
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I actually played Standard for a while just to play Treant Druid.
@Maqya
3 жыл бұрын
Back in GVG mech rogue was actually alright. It was never on the level of mech mage, but it was like a solid low tier 2/high tier 3 deck. Obviously it's nowhere near good enough for today's wild meta, but it was completely viable during the GVG expansion.
@theztalker6731
3 жыл бұрын
You are right however Oil rouge was still by far the best rouge archetype i remember dealing 14 damage face and 7 damage AOE casually on turn 5 man was that shit broken.
@andripopa
3 жыл бұрын
Played it in gvg, ahh good times, nice times
@johnmcclure5051
3 жыл бұрын
Excuse me sir, you've forgotten the classic King Togwaggle>Explore Un' Goro>Skulking Geist combo
@brittmccall2618
3 жыл бұрын
Hi person I hope your future relationships work out
@ShuckleShellAnemia
3 жыл бұрын
The most painful thing about freeze shaman was that moorabi was specifically worded to not trigger on himself. Like they determined he was TOO powerful if you could get multiple moorabis
@55ziomal55
3 жыл бұрын
Back in the days Hearthstone was bent on not letting you get infinite value (even if it was shit). Even nowadays devs seem to limit your options (discover nerfs for example) a bit but there are way more ways to get it.
@ShuckleShellAnemia
3 жыл бұрын
@@55ziomal55 hearthstone was about not getting infinite value... in the same expansion as death knights? Hmmmmmmm
@55ziomal55
3 жыл бұрын
@@ShuckleShellAnemia there was a reason why Deathstalker Rexxar was considered overpowered by many at the time :^) I don't think that today anyone would ever bother.
@tedearlbear4010
3 жыл бұрын
Since Demon Hunter wasn’t on here since most of it’s decks just work really well, I wanted to throw my two cents. Why can’t we get better big Demon Hunter support? The cards are kind of there and Blizzard prints more for the archetype but it is never enough for it to actually work. In short, Demon Hunter doesn’t have the tools for a control/big deck only fast decks
@randomname9723
3 жыл бұрын
@@karlsmink As long as Inquisitor exists big Demon DH is impossible to support. It quite literally is the strongest 8-drop ever printed by a fucking mile so if high cost demons get support it'll just be Inquisitor support because nothing else fucking matters when you have a card that broken
@evancalgary7684
3 жыл бұрын
@@karlsmink its cause you just play voidcaller in warlock if they gave it to demon hunter somehow instead of the 6 mana guy thats awful it would be more consistent its actually not bad just inconsistent
@luddent7505
3 жыл бұрын
What is he talking about. Treant druid was like tier 1 in standard for a while
@dibreman6184
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he is talking about wild only
@Gamer-cr4wv
3 жыл бұрын
@@dibreman6184 he has to be
@N4chtigall
3 жыл бұрын
What treant druid? There tas a token druid (which wasn't treant druid) and back in the days there was OTK druid with Force of Nature. But there was never druid deck focused on treant synergies.
@siposmarci5407
3 жыл бұрын
Basicly: did you ever see someone play this? (Except Roffle)
@monarkev
3 жыл бұрын
Hey... don’t want to intrude your personal space but... swap the p and the c in expect to make the comment better :)
@thedatathief4313
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like hero power mage is more viable on standard ladder instead of wild because of the cards in wild are much better for other arc types, and other hero's. I've been grinding ladder with hero power Mage and I got pretty high up.
@alienalibi2382
3 жыл бұрын
All spells or are you running a modified version of the one they have premade?
@ketchubb
3 жыл бұрын
@@alienalibi2382 hero power mage is a bad deck. just like my dark portal warlock i wont stop playing. Both require good draw to win favored MUs. Good decks do not. they just win because all the cards are good.
@thedatathief4313
3 жыл бұрын
@@alienalibi2382 nah it's has the hero power stuff and mordresh, but it also has jandice barov, firebrand, solarian for the solarian prime, and different sets of spells. Also yeah it's kinda bad at times but kinda fun
@walbobo
3 жыл бұрын
@@thedatathief4313 deck code by chance? I’ve wanted this to work and was gonna try adding the new freeze supports
@thedatathief4313
3 жыл бұрын
@@walbobo AAECAf0ECPe4A427A9nRA+veA9jsA6iKBLCKBJegBAvgzAOk0QOO1AOW6AOY6gPT7APW7AP8ngT+ngSsnwTonwQA here it is mate. Very good deck I've been using. If you use the new frost spells, use the new freeze legendary minion, and replace like flamestrike, ring toss, and maybe the deaths head cultist.
@gorkemkavak1965
Жыл бұрын
Year is 2023 Discard Warlock is S Tier Tree Druid is pretty good Mech Rogue is viable
@dantedante8837
3 жыл бұрын
not including the clip where lifecoach predicted the hunter quest was gonna break the game was a mistake, person
@deejayf69
3 жыл бұрын
Burgle Rogue. Whenever you try to play a slow Rogue deck you lose because there's almost no survivability tools in the class that deal with boards
@Thomas_Bjornsson
3 жыл бұрын
Explore Ungoro was played in Togwaggle Warrior. But yeah, outside of that, never saw play.
@HOGTO1000
3 жыл бұрын
He forgot the Silverback Patriach archtype
@Ikeasnow
3 жыл бұрын
Wdym, that's quite literally the strongest archetype ever made!
@ShuckleShellAnemia
3 жыл бұрын
Explore Un’goro worked okay in even warrior because you could put corrupted blood in both decks and then delete your bloods and discover a bunch of control tools. The problem now is they nerfed discover to no longer give you more class cards than neutral cards, which was a massive nerf to explore un’goro.
@Pink_Nacho
3 жыл бұрын
what about neutral card mechanics that never worked? like Gadgetzan's motorcycle pigs, Grand Tournaments's joust cards, Blackrock Mountain's stuff that costs less for each minion that died, Rastakhan's Rumble as a whole
@madyconn
3 жыл бұрын
Those are mechanics and not archetypes.
@Pink_Nacho
3 жыл бұрын
@@madyconn true but id still say they deserve their own video
@Ellicess
3 жыл бұрын
I tried to make Dragon Murloc Paladin. Finley and DQA made it not entirely bad in Reno.
@ShuckleShellAnemia
3 жыл бұрын
Also even mage got me to diamond with a 20-win winstreak so it absolutely works. The thing is, you only run a few hero power related cards. The rest of your deck is card generation via elementals
@mindscapejem
3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to have to disagree with you on the Treant deck, during Saviors of Uldum I ran a deck called "Greedants" which ran nearly every Treant synergy card and for about a month-long period (before it just became Token Druid), I was able to climb up to climb up to Rank 3 (this is before the Bronze-Diamond system existed). It also did marginally well in Wild at the time. It IS garbage now, but at the time it worked really well.
@illiji915
3 жыл бұрын
Treant druid actually worked pretty well before Goru rotated. I played it alot before the new standard year
@nickg2338
3 жыл бұрын
You can play odd combo priest with the quest from uldum
@madyconn
3 жыл бұрын
Person should definitely make a part 2. There are so many. Destroy a mana crystal warlock. Empty hand hunter. Jade rogue. Pretty much any mech-centric deck besides mage and paladin (looking at you upgraded repair bot). Hack the system warrior. I can go on and on.
@asdfasdf-dg2qx
3 жыл бұрын
gazlow actually saw some play in warrior i believe
@adrianplaza5373
3 жыл бұрын
Treant token druid did work, the legendary , garden gnome and aeroponics were played.
@chiefcamacho
3 жыл бұрын
Double Iron Sensei + Conceal was a thing
@sammyboyy3643
3 жыл бұрын
He didn't talk about it, but is silverhand recrue are good or bad right now?
@battologon5899
3 жыл бұрын
Odd Pala in wild is very good. Other than that, no
@lock_checker4342
3 жыл бұрын
I made a neat even treant handsize druid back in the day for something unique(ly tier 3)
@andrzejzoll952
3 жыл бұрын
I actually love hero power mage ^^ Got to plat 4 in wild with it, which maybe isn't that impressive but the highest rank I got up to this point was like gold 7 (or rank 8 in the old system).
@John-yk4bp
3 жыл бұрын
I have a suggestion for a new card in freeze shaman. Frost Rager. 1 mana 5/1 (maybe with overload?) and an elemental tag
@SeaKaned
3 жыл бұрын
But solem what about the new 4 mana 3/4 that buffs minion in your deck?
@zuligansvidious
3 жыл бұрын
I hope that Blizzard will one day deign to lower the cost of these cards. It shouldn't be difficult, it's just changing a value.
@djankastroyer4425
3 жыл бұрын
I actually hit legend with treant druid during descent of dragonns on standart. It was vert powerful back then
@marleonka.
3 жыл бұрын
What about Control Demon Hunter?
@F2PAlius
3 жыл бұрын
I HAVE A DRAGON MURLOC PALADIN DECK. it's bad. It's really bad. Skyfin is a good card. Scalelord is a really bad card.
@rebree5137
3 жыл бұрын
UK i came here to research some stuff before getting into the game a few days ago and now I'm watching it non stop.
@Tom-rz6jq
3 жыл бұрын
I actually got the 13 winstreak acheivement with dragon murloc highlander Pali in ranked Diamond
@lani4ushkata
3 жыл бұрын
Uldum Quest Warrior, Dragon Rogue, Big Warlock Edit: Also Hand Druid and Buff Priest (PW:Tentacles, Shadow Ascendant, Dragonmaw Overseer)
@Toxicflu
3 жыл бұрын
I actually got legend with explore ungoro. lol. It was in a taunt quest warrior deck. and my whole deck was taunts and control cards. and believe or not, once my quest was complete i would either switch all my deck with explore ungoro and it would be nice. or I would togwaggle and switch my opponents deck to unguro cards. lol.
@Symptomofsynesthesy
3 жыл бұрын
I play a combo version of Quest Hunter based on Prince Keleseth and that choose one legendary druid/hunter card for giving +1/+1 or even +2/+2 to every raptor, then give them charge and procede face when the time is right. Meta? No. Fun? Yes. And I also play an Odd druid, it's much better then people think. Still not meta.
@ajkcool
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Explore Un'Goro could be 1 mana and all of the Choose Your Path could be 0 mana and it would still not see play. Would be a somewhat playable meme though
@pyramidhead5123
3 жыл бұрын
You are mistaken about the fact that no one is playing with this. Visit Heartpwn more often, there are unusual decks from different players every day. For example, I have "Piramid Hed" decks such as Odd Highlander Warrior, Odd Higlander Menagerie Warlock. And I try to make it as playable as possible, and besides Heartpwn, I release a post on Reddit with unusual decks for each class every week. By the way, this is a note of Zeddy as an alternative to Roffle decks
@Foudzing
3 жыл бұрын
Highlander pocket galaxy mage can run a hero power package (+2 damage elem, guy which fires it at every ennemy) and then finish the game with Brann the 10/10 legendary and jalaina, 3 cards 36 damage combo. Maybe not the strongest pocket galaxy mage but certainly playable, as long as you run the Highlander package.
@markozerdin9784
3 жыл бұрын
I thougth that for the archtype for warlock u will say handbuff warlock, lol
@ajkcool
3 жыл бұрын
I thought he would say Mech Warlock
@tarille1043
3 жыл бұрын
Explore Un'goro is at least useful for a meme deck for Warrior where you use Explore Un'goro > Togwaggle > Explore Un'goro and then use Skulking Geist to destroy both players decks.
@jasperism27
3 жыл бұрын
It's been months since I played Wild or Hearthstone at all, because I got back into Yugioh. Legacy support for old archetypes is something yugioh does really well. Dinosaurs get 1 or 2 cards per year but really ties together decks and helps keep them relevant, even just at rogue level. The Dragunity and Madolche legacy support have been really on point lately, and both of those archetypes are older than Hearthstone itself. Don't get me started on Shaddolls...
@d_a_v_i_b
3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't there a King Togwaggle/ Explore Ungoro deck that burned your opponents deck by taking their deck, making it all explore ungoro cards that cost 1, then burning their deck with skulking gheist?
@ccsam1516
3 жыл бұрын
Honnestly, with my even mage Deck I'm going 11-0 against mage and have a good aggro matchup. It works, I just don't have fun playing mage compared to other classes. I much rather longer games.
@hairypotter5402
3 жыл бұрын
did person just skip DH? well here's an archetype that didnt work out: token DH... and before the deck had any chance to exist, they rotated wrathscale naga and command the illidari out. i'm still sad, becaus the deck was so much more fun than normal face DH... oh and one day big DH please.
@firengan5361
3 жыл бұрын
actually, the quest hunter is not so bad, it's a really fun deck with all the new cards ^^ also I'm still sad that freeze Shaman didn't work (yeah i got moraby in my packs :/)
@DeadlyWhisperBg
3 жыл бұрын
In the old day's i Hit Rank 5 with Mech Rogue, so i don't know what you are talking about. And for me Explore Un'Goro was a fun deck to play, yeh true not that good at ranked
@Brotrooper360
3 жыл бұрын
It's so sad that these decks never worked, dragon paladin had so much value and looked so fun, but... it blows. And I actually played treant druid during saviors of uldum, but in hindsight it wasn't great, it was just a lot of fun and it was aggro so it won some games lmao
@kokioen
3 жыл бұрын
Explore Un'goro basically gives your opponent a free, permanent watchpost. Maybe it's no wonder why it never worked.
@santagonewrong
3 жыл бұрын
Hero Power Mage was a thing in Standard back in Rastakhan. There was an odd mage with Jan'alai, daring fire eaters, pyromaniacs, Frost Lich Jaina, and a secret package that was doing pretty well - I think it was high tier two for a little while.
@SuchanOriginal
3 жыл бұрын
Ok so with queen carnassa I made a buff deck with Shan do wild claw that also was trash where you buff your deck after queen carnassa so they all become like 4 3 and then also have a tundra rhino on board so you just keep hitting face.
@erasmusbolt1686
3 жыл бұрын
For Warrior why not talk about the Uldum Quest? It's so useless that the only way to play it was with the galakrond
@ShuckleShellAnemia
3 жыл бұрын
Quest Hunter works, it’s just not an aggressive deck. Your winstate is the board full of 6/6 raptors or tundra rhino
@leonardoluiz7487
3 жыл бұрын
Damage your Minions warrior from Knights of the Frozen Throne. Not even a hero card could save that deck.
@DeidaraSanji
3 жыл бұрын
What if Quest Hunter Raptors had rush ?
@greatozgreatoz5641
3 жыл бұрын
Lakkari Sacrifice is solid in Duels right now. but duels is that mode people don't play often.
@jakubzneba1965
3 жыл бұрын
ok but torture albatross priest, you faked first turn by not playing quest and baiting damage to your face, because that was the point...by far one of the most fun times in hearthstone
@WilhelmPirek
3 жыл бұрын
I love that content
@danielgruber6270
3 жыл бұрын
The problem is you look at most of these cards as OH I HAVE THIS CARD AND MUST TRIGGER IT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE ..... no most of these are value and must be triggered in a control deck lategame
@Querterus
3 жыл бұрын
Kinda funny that i liked to play both Quest that u had on the list xD And explor ungoru was played in toggwaggle warrie
@rafabellini5267
3 жыл бұрын
Ping Mage has alot of potential with Wildfire and Mordresh eventually will become strong i believe
@bensagnella757
3 жыл бұрын
Remember hand buff warlock? I can remember like 5 or 6 cards that supported it.
@john-fi2ni
3 жыл бұрын
Got to legend in descent of dragons using treant druid :(
@ftorididk4198
3 жыл бұрын
I've literally played odd priest now. It was in gold 8 tho. And I lost. But hey, I play it
@ricardadue3128
3 жыл бұрын
I played odd-reno-quest Priest fir a while in like Gold or smth. and it kind of worked. Once you got Raza u were basically invincible except against really big decks, and even against those u had your Quest and dragonqueen to deal with them. (When I didnt draw Raza I lost basically always though)
@ftorididk4198
3 жыл бұрын
@@ricardadue3128 I'm too poor for decks like this. Spending hard earned dust for every card feels like hell and dusting every legendary feels like killing own child for money
@ricardadue3128
3 жыл бұрын
@@ftorididk4198 I know that feeling, I'm also a F2P Player, playing since Rise of the Shadows.
@ftorididk4198
3 жыл бұрын
@@ricardadue3128 playing since Ramble. Never got lucky with legendaries so had to craft needed ones myself
@ricardadue3128
3 жыл бұрын
@@ftorididk4198 Same. In the last 2 years I got 1 golden Legendary. Last Expansion I got my first Legendary (except the guaranteed one) after around 45-50 Packs
@Yatezylad
3 жыл бұрын
Menagerie warrior is another one which never saw play but they seem to keep supporting. Why?
@samuelboth6968
3 жыл бұрын
I still play evolve shaman in wild with the hero and its still fun
@newergamer7974
3 жыл бұрын
Wait didn't you said you aren't person anymore? Well I like the content creator person
@vladromanenko18
3 жыл бұрын
Could be green, could be red, could be... blue. Is it Mass Effect reference?
@HOGTO1000
3 жыл бұрын
Super early squad
@melorate
3 жыл бұрын
Freeze - Galakrond shaman is actually very good deck
@pinguossas6422
3 жыл бұрын
I actually played mech rogue in gvg and It was nuts with the right mulligam
@cyprianpysiewicz4664
3 жыл бұрын
You know, I really like the new thumbnail style keep up the good work
@trailguidealex5010
3 жыл бұрын
Ok how the hell does treant druid a good deck get thrown on this list but not goblin bombs? Which i wish we can get support for.
@table2.0
3 жыл бұрын
If treeants became a tribe, I think that would be interesting, like totems
@dominequemccool2359
3 жыл бұрын
Ok now you play these decks until you get a win with each and see how long it lasts lol
@liamcollins7144
3 жыл бұрын
My friend climbed to legend with even mordresh last month it’s an actual fun mage deck
@WillACarpenter
3 жыл бұрын
I cracked moorabi so I have tried several times... It's soo bad.
@andripopa
3 жыл бұрын
I actualy played mech rouge in gvg, it was decent
@blackwolves6925
3 жыл бұрын
What you talking about ive made a dragon marlock.
@thephoenixlegion4538
3 жыл бұрын
Played dragon murlocs to Diamond 5 it was alot of fun
@Matthias-bt2kx
3 жыл бұрын
Did i miss the demon hunter deck?
@McKillins
3 жыл бұрын
Treant druid got me to rank 10 legend I'll fight u on that one
@samhobbs9116
3 жыл бұрын
Treents and hp mage have both worked well enough for me
@lucho6883
3 жыл бұрын
My custom decks never worked in Hearthstone
@mastermadness7417
3 жыл бұрын
Glad that the video i wished for has been done Feels great
@gugugugu3371
3 жыл бұрын
Actually I never disenchanted the Un'goro Hunter quest, and it's still fun to play it sometimes. There have been numerous crazy synergies added through the new expansions (the last one being warsong wrangler which gives +2 +1 to all your raptors) ^^ Actually I think that what people got wrong with the deck is that they wanted to play it aggressively, when it's actually never a good plan with quests. You're more supposed to play it as a combo deck, with which you finish your opponent with toundra rhino + raptors. It's probably tier 3 at most, but it's a nice other way to play hunter.
@zachariastsampasidis8880
3 жыл бұрын
This. Any quest deck is at least mid range. And there are lots of good support cards for it nowadays
@bullseye0803
3 жыл бұрын
Murloc warlock is also terrible I mean meta
@Polar0088
3 жыл бұрын
Toggwagle + Explorer ungoro was a thing
@ettoremenorello3235
3 жыл бұрын
i used to swap my deck with the oppo and than play explore ungoro i was really fun
@teddymitchell1835
3 жыл бұрын
Aggro mech rogue was a thing back in GnG
@V0rdan
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe i'd put stealth rogue on the list
@andreaarmellini2991
3 жыл бұрын
I got right the background color. Cool
@rexw2
3 жыл бұрын
I remember playing The Marsh Queen in the past a lot and winning a lot cus of it cus I would combo the infinite draw and beasts with the charge rhino for a OTK. So don't disrepect my youngings like that q.q EDIT: Did he just say ''My name is Person, and I have been your host"?
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