The person might have been kicked from the tournament if it was using the duel commander banlist, which the fast mana that was talked about is on the list. Could be that it wasn't relayed or displayed properly during entry or signup.
@DotDeck
7 ай бұрын
I remember when there was room for flavor text
@pauldyson8098
7 ай бұрын
I misread that as "The Room flavor text." I want a Counterspell with the flavor text: "Oh, hi, Mark."
@TheAverageGuyTAG
6 ай бұрын
@@pauldyson8098 Secret Lair - Universes Beyond: The Room - Tear Asunder: "You are tearing me apart, Lisa!" - Contested Game Ball: Johnny and friends throwing around the football - Ceremonious Rejection: "I did not hit her. It's not true, it's bullshit! I did not her, I did naaaht...oh hi, Mark!" - Sudden Shock: "I got the results of the test back. I definitely have breast cancer." -Glorious End: Johnny trashes his room at the end of the movie shortly before meeting his demise by his own hands. The bonus card will be Tommy Wiseau as a reskin of Ulamog.
@pauldyson8098
6 ай бұрын
I love every word of this.@@TheAverageGuyTAG
@greekPharaoh666
7 ай бұрын
I would like them to shorten the frase" use mana as though it was mana of any type to cast" with a keyword or something. Having a play from exile or steal deck it gets very wordy to repeat multiple times per match.
@ekolimitsLIVE
6 ай бұрын
Call it “crystal mana”. Done
@kazekage_gaara_-8027
7 ай бұрын
Commander tournaments are an oxymoron, however...the LGS should be plainly stating the overarching rules. Whether they're Cedh or EDH or something in between. They should be posting what cards are unacceptable for the event and putting it in writing. Basically having the rule zero conversation on paper before taking entry fees...
@robertstevenson883
7 ай бұрын
The best tactic for dealing with that would probably have to be giving a budget (determined by tcgplayer/cardmarket/etc. prices) and probably allowing proxies
@kazekage_gaara_-8027
7 ай бұрын
@@robertstevenson883 I don't disagree, but that's all stuff that should have been coordinated beforehand. Telling someone who adhered to the rules that they're breaking some unspoken one and are DQ'D is egregious.
@michaelcollins4534
7 ай бұрын
Casual or tournament. Gotta pick one you can't have both
@Thorhallx
7 ай бұрын
@@michaelcollins4534 Not true, as I stated in my comment, my LGS has a Point based commander night with store credit on the line and has been running for a year+. No one typically brings anything cedh or that will roflstomp someone out the game. Ppl have been coming to our events from other lgs because its inviting.
@Kryptnyt
7 ай бұрын
@@Thorhallx You guys got a custom banlist?
@KellyUnekis
7 ай бұрын
"Too competitive" doesn't exist if you are playing 1v1 for prizing. No matter the format.
@Shimatzu95
7 ай бұрын
Casual and tournament don't realy mix huh, who could have predicted that😅.
@Xoulrath_
7 ай бұрын
This. 😂
@simic0racle157
7 ай бұрын
1v1 commander has a different ban list than multiplayer commander and, mana crypt for one is banned. In that context why wouldn't the LGS remove the player playing banned cards?
@KellyUnekis
7 ай бұрын
@@simic0racle157 More reason to make me believe the whole thing is a horseshit story capitalizing on how soft commander players are.
@nickhewes6860
7 ай бұрын
@@KellyUnekisWanting to play casual Magic and being soft are 100% unrelated, scrub.
@liamlindsay6082
7 ай бұрын
Removing reminder text, i fully agree. With so many sets coming out and so many new abilities, it gets difficult to jump into a set when reminder text is just gone. What does discover do? not sure. Disguise? don't know. Craft? not a clue. Let me pull up my phone real quick and google the rules in the middle of this commander game.
@SmashCentralOfficial
5 ай бұрын
I found it annoying to play the Ixalan Pirates Precon when I played a creature that created a map token, but it didn't say what the map token did. Now of course since it's a precon there's a map token included in the box which has the reminder text, but would've been nice to see it on the creature.
@Crusina
7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the timestamps in recent videos
@Blairrows
7 ай бұрын
I remember hearing Maro (can't remember where, sorry, likely his blog though) talk about how R&D does explicitly consider digital when they design. The example I remember him using was something like Quick Study: In the past, they would've had target player draw 2, but R&D didn't want digital players to accidentally input the wrong target when you're going to pick yourself 99.9% of the time anyway, so now it's "you draw 2 cards" instead. I don't think this practice is ruining Magic, it's nice that they're doing things for Arena players, but I am concerned that it constricts designers from making cool cards just because they'd be a nightmare for digital. Would we see something like Emrakul today when it was such an epic effort to make it work on Arena back then?
@Marenth
7 ай бұрын
Another subtle example is putting small numbers of cards on the bottom of your library. Before Kaladesh, pretty much every effect like Collected Company, Goblin Ringleader, or Ancient Stirrings would default to putting the cards you didn't choose on the bottom in any order, which is easier in paper. While it hasn't vanished entirely, most newer cards have you put them on the bottom of your library in a random order instead because it's easier for digital magic.
@51gunner
7 ай бұрын
Good example@@Marenth - the number of times where "random order" vs. (essentially) "an order of your choosing" for a few cards to the bottom would be meaningful is probably nearly zero; the bottom of your library is a pretty hard zone to interact with! I know there's a couple cards that care about it, but I think that's mostly a Commander thing. Like, if you scry a card to the bottom, you're almost certainly not seeing it again unless you tutor for it or shuffle again and draw it from somewhere else, in which case the order placed doesn't matter. The "target player draws 2" vs "you draw 2" is another good example - I can support eliminating this choice where players would like 90% do the obviously correct thing to target themselves with it, 0.1% choose the other to finish someone off by decking, and 9.9% frustrating misplays. I once saw a game on MTGO where Seth was playing against Amulet Titan, and watching all those triggers tick by was a drag. Might as well try to shave down a lot of more-or-less useless clicks where you are essentially confirming a really obvious game action.
@Aronia55
6 ай бұрын
@@Marenth The 'in any order' variants definitely had another subtle downside as well. That being that people were spending a lot of time deciding the order to put the cards in. A choice that very likely did not matter but at the same time could be rather complex. Easier to just give them a quick shuffle and pop them on the bottom.
@TheSmartCinema
7 ай бұрын
I also thought there could be multiplayer on Arena when I first saw that card, but then I realized it was just an easier way to word it for the opponent. It saves a ton of text by wording it that way, rather than putting 3 lines of text saying the same thing twice, once for you and once for the opponent
@bobzour
7 ай бұрын
How is "from the library of the player to their right" simpler than "from their opponent's library"? Assuming we're limited to 1v1 then each player's opponent is already defined so there's no need to specify a direction.
@TheSmartCinema
7 ай бұрын
@@bobzour i dont think it would work since I cant think of a card that refers to yourself as an opponent
@atk9989
7 ай бұрын
@@TheSmartCinemayou are your opponents opponent, so that wording is equal to both players. Their opponent directly applies the effect to both players.
@bobzour
7 ай бұрын
@@TheSmartCinemaLook up Shared Fate. It replaces card draw with drawing from the opponent's library but happens for both you and your opponent.
@TheSmartCinema
7 ай бұрын
@@atk9989 tell me what card you are the one casting that refers to yourself as an opponent? I just went on Scryfall and I can't find a single one. But y'all can keep dreaming about a 4 player mode if y'all want to... A card that refers to you will say "you", not "your opponent's opponent" or "that player's opponent" lol...
@dasfabelwesen
7 ай бұрын
1v1 Commander has a seperate ban list.
@jamespatterson5644
7 ай бұрын
this was my first question. are all his "too good" cards banned in 1v1? I don't know the 1v1 ban list, but I know it exists
@ekolimitsLIVE
6 ай бұрын
Yes. It’s called Duel Commander. People can google it and see that the individual was not following that format specific ban list.
@casteanpreswyn7528
7 ай бұрын
There is absolutely no way that reddit post is honest.
@_claymore
7 ай бұрын
never in the history of the internet has anyone ever lied on reddit. shame on you for suggesting otherwise. the internet is the paragon of truth and reddit one of its purest safe-havens!
@alexanderandrews6980
7 ай бұрын
It needs to be legible... I'm colorblind and some of the Secret Lairs are impossible to read. As a self imposed rule I bring a printout of any foreign language card or secret lair that I can lay over the original at my opponents request.
@FarmallFarmer
7 ай бұрын
Mechanic that made paper worse and designed for digital: Day/Night cycle
@AkiVainio
7 ай бұрын
Based on the number of tokens used these days, it would seem that they are designing for digital, even if specific cards aren't.
@swiftdragonrider
7 ай бұрын
The example crim gave of missing reminders text actually happened with cryptic coat which lead to funny moments on the aspiring spike stream as he figured out how every aspect of the card worked
@alkhemia23
7 ай бұрын
magic is actually worse text wise then yugioh at this point because of double sided cards with walls of text like the transformers cards
@emtee2925
7 ай бұрын
In Yu-Gi searching your library always implies shuffling it afterwards, trimming down the need to add "shuffles their library" after any search effect. Would trim down ramp cards and tutors at the same time.
@51gunner
7 ай бұрын
This is a good point, I don't think there's a single effect that permits a player to search WITHOUT shuffling afterwards; while I'm sure an overwhelming majority of players wouldn't even try, no doubt someone trying to spike a tournament would try to search then note down their top few cards (or all, why not).
@adderous
7 ай бұрын
Alt and textless versions of cards can definitely be annoying, but unless you're going to also mandate all cards in a tournament be in a single language it's hard to say it's a new or unique problem. The solution to both is having your phone ready.
@Lusk1993
7 ай бұрын
My solution is to play a different game 😅
@lenajohnson6179
6 ай бұрын
I can see an argument for textless cards. Originally they were smart enough to do it only to cards with like, a sentence of rules... but these days they'll turn anything into a textless card... no matter the textbook of rules it might have. I do have sympathy for any tournament lost because someone might play a textless card and nobody remembers EXACTLY what it does... I don't see ANY argument at all for alt art cards... they still say what the cards do on the cards.
@Mr-doot
7 ай бұрын
YO did not expect to hear the Card Art shoutout. They still got edh on Wednesdays, absolutely amazing store and lucky its my LGS
@thatepicwizardguy
7 ай бұрын
I like the exile land idea kind of... but I think a better design would to make it an exile fetch basically. you can't do recur shenanigans since you exile it but otherwise it's exactly the same as a fetchland. that'd be a really excellent land to have printed.
@pneuma08
6 ай бұрын
I personally think a force-of-landfall card (pitch a land, go get a basic) would be a nice answer to Blood Moon.
@DevGivs
7 ай бұрын
Juggle the performance is just flavor for juggling. You pass the ball from your right hand to the left. Honestly pretty insensitive for left handed jugglers
@NerdHerder545
7 ай бұрын
Just to highlight, for people that don’t know, the reason foils curl is because they aren’t foiled on both sides. You see the same thing with woodworking. If you paint one side of a board the different sides will absorb moisture from the air at different rates (and expand/contract at different rates) and cause the board to warp. Foiling both sides would fix the problem but presents an obvious challenge when it comes to people playing without sleeves. Making foil patterns with lots of alternating, small foiled and unfoiled regions would help mitigate curling to an extent as well.
@NateFinch
7 ай бұрын
I was thinking about this - I wonder if they could foil the opposite side, but then cover it with something opaque so you can't tell it's foil. Then you get a standard magic back that also acts like the foiled side with its moisture absorption.
@ivrissgaming8006
7 ай бұрын
I know duel commander has a different ban list with a lot of fast mana pieces banned. Not 100% sure but he may have run banned cards
@51gunner
7 ай бұрын
Is this just because in 1v1 it could be "whoever drew their Sol Ring or Mana Crypt wins"?
@ivrissgaming8006
6 ай бұрын
@@51gunner yea, without 3 opponent's to punish a fast start, you would just run away with games. But it's a super fun format.
@failfurby
7 ай бұрын
I honestly do not care about the "other side" of the first story. There is only 1 ban list I will ever acknowledge and it is the official one on the WotC website, because they are the ones in charge of maintaining the format and tournaments for the format. "Rule Zero" doesn't exist, "unwritten rules" don't exist, there are THE rules of MTG and THE ban list of Commander for tournaments, period. I would never support that store ever again and post and report their illegal behavior to every site and every WotC customer support that I can. There is only one goal in a tournament: winning. You can have all the casual Commander meet up nights you want, you can set aside "prizes" for the people who happen to come out on top at the end of games if you want, and you use whatever house rules you want to discuss before the game you care to for CASUAL games night. I would even agree to a "cover charge" for an event like that at my LGS if they wanted to charge it to cover the cost of said "prizes". But, if this is the enviornment you want to encourage, then STATE IT UP FRONT AND DO NOT CALL IT A TOURNAMENT.
@pablopandolfo8446
3 ай бұрын
timeless is a trap. investing wildcards and gems into timeless is a bad idea, yeah you can have fun with timeless, but the meta can change in a heartbeat since the format has alchemy cards (which wizards can change on a whim), they can drop any time a bunch of new cards for arena that stir the format, now modern horizons sets is a new factor. It's a format that has various avenues to be changed completely in 1 week. what prevents wizards from releasing apha/beta duals out of nowhere, just because they need to pump this quarter's numbers for the shareholders, making you spend again 40 new wildcards to have the best mana base to enjoy the format?
@sylvaintellier4787
6 ай бұрын
I assume you guys check your sources before doing mileage on hearsay... Like which tournament kicked the guy out and what's the LGS side of the story?
@InfyrnaSinath
7 ай бұрын
Should it really be the players fault the WOTC don't use good quality or standards when making foils?
@TheMgborn
7 ай бұрын
This tournament story shows why interaction is called committing a crime.
@alexspeedwagon3701
7 ай бұрын
Instead of shortening "enters the battlefield" in order to put more words on cards, how about we just not put so many words on all the cards?
@GeistNebula
7 ай бұрын
They're changing ETB to just "Enters".
@lVideoWatcherl
7 ай бұрын
I really think they believe that they have to put more and more text on, just because they have so much product now.
@alexspeedwagon3701
7 ай бұрын
@@GeistNebula Which creates more confusion for new players, doesn't it? Enters what? Your hand? What if you discard it? It enters the graveyard! Brainstorm it away? It entered your library!
@GeistNebula
7 ай бұрын
@@alexspeedwagon3701 pretty sure they're leaving those alone it's main just for etb
@alexspeedwagon3701
7 ай бұрын
@@GeistNebula Obviously, but it's obvious to US since we're on the internet talking about the game. What about little 12-year old timmy who starts playing because his friends get into it? Are any of them going to know what it means? My entire point is that it creates confusion for the purpose of saving space on the cards when there's another, much less confusing, method of saving space to be had.
@Pigotti94
7 ай бұрын
Shortcut red card Exile: Impulse 2 until end of turn, or Impulse 3 until the end of your next turn. Instead of having to say: Exile x cards from the top of your library. You may play them this turn
@themrrental2509
7 ай бұрын
Problen is some cards are play vs cast until end of turn. Add on until end of next turn/next end step/your next end step and they would need at least 2 keywords or more to do this.
@NateFinch
7 ай бұрын
@@themrrental2509or just standardize on one. If it was just always "play" and "until the end of your next turn". It wouldn't help the old nonstandard versions, but it could help some.and all new cards.
@johnathanreynolds1108
7 ай бұрын
@@themrrental2509I see no problem moving forward just being able to use the wording for playing cards moving forward . since playing cards still lets you cast spells ; it just let's you play lands in addition Edit: impulse x until end of turn Or impulse x until end your next turn And that would eliminate " exile cards from the top of your library you may play them" Though you would need a new keyword for exiling opponents cards from top of their library so maybe something like "plunder" Plunder x from target opponent Plunder x from each opponent
@johnathanreynolds1108
7 ай бұрын
Don't know why my comment got muted. But I was going to say that I like impulse as a keyword and it should be about playing cards since you still get to cast spells for cards that care about casting from exile. But there would have to be one for doing the same with your opponents library why not call it "plunder" Plunder x from target opponent Plunder x from each opponent And can add until end of turn/ or until end of your next turn/ or as long as they remain in exile
@haileydee9954
7 ай бұрын
I don't believe the person talking about being kicked out for being too competitive.
@moshjoshpitchief4418
7 ай бұрын
i think the term "fetch" would work for any searching of the library for lands fetch 3 basics put 2 onto the battlefield, fetch up to 2 forests and put them onto the battlefield, etc.
@nguyenalan88
7 ай бұрын
“Fetch” for onto the battlefield, and “tutor” for into your hand
@ChinmanPlayCOD
7 ай бұрын
My LGS does EDH tournaments sometimes that he specifically lists as high powered, but people join with casual decks and get frustrated with the power of other peoples decks and drop. I think it should be labeled cEDH, because that is the crowd he wants to draw in but I can't imagine that would actually fill an entry since there aren't many people that do cEDH at my lgs maybe only 4-6 at most
@drshrimppuertorico3540
7 ай бұрын
Anyone joining a tournament with a casual deck is the problem. It's a tournament the opposite of casual play
@OpticF3ARNGT
7 ай бұрын
Big agree on removing reminder text! Especially in PreCons People keep asking how explore works in ixalan decks for example
@honeybeeees6666
6 ай бұрын
Mark my words, the downfall of casual commander will be whiny, salty players. Yall get upset about anything that can push a win or synergize into a win, most often because someone did it before you got to play your thing that does the very same thing. As long as this undefined cloud of "socially acceptable playstyles" remains, people are going to always be upset about anything all the time, and its starting to ruin commander. My LGS has a loose policy of "play whatever, just talk to each other first" and i cant tell you how great it is. Power levels are always close or on par, and very, very, very rarely does anyone get upset about *anythiiiiiing*.
@MrCenturion13
6 ай бұрын
Ah, the distinct whine of the try-hard. You wouldn't know casual if it came up and stole your belt.
@1Heirborn
7 ай бұрын
"Ramp" could work as a shorthand. "Ramp a basic land tapped" works for Rampant Growth. "Ramp a forest land" works for Nature's Lore. "Ramp X basic lands tapped where X is the number of lands you control" works for Boundless Realms. Not sure if ramp is worth shortening in general tho.
@fearghaill9738
7 ай бұрын
One easy space-saving keyword option would be to make “Investigate” equivalents for the other artifact tokens, like “Cook” instead of “create a Food token
@51gunner
7 ай бұрын
I'm here for all the memes about "Let him cook" that this would create.
@kylejohnson4662
7 ай бұрын
There are cards that tell you to search graveyards and/or hand. Finale of Devastation, Invasion of Arcavios, and lobotomy effects are examples of this. However, the instruction to search a graveyard or hand only happens when the card also instructs you to search a library.
@frikifit
7 ай бұрын
That tournament story reminded me of the fact that selling my collection and never looking back was the best decision I’ve ever made. Save for the rare individuals or content creators (like Seth or Crim), everyone else, from WOTC to players to LGSs to Content Creators, they all seem hellbent on making the MTG community (and general experiencie of playing MTG) THE ABSOLUTE WORST…
@domotoro3552
7 ай бұрын
i think another motivation for arena wording stuff as “target opponent” and “to your right” is to let players play them with proxies if they wanna put in the elbow grease to make alchemy work in paper. now, in reality I don’t think anyone wants to do that but I do still think wizards cares
@Bro490
7 ай бұрын
as to the last fishmail question: a land that tap and sac-ed that created a basic land token would solve the sideboard issue.
@pneuma08
6 ай бұрын
Isn't this basically prismatic vista without the deck thinning? Well I guess it negates the need to run any basics but that sounds more like a deckbuilding problem. (Is this just a roundabout way to complain about having to run basics?)
@barneymiller3689
7 ай бұрын
Casual EDH tournament is an oxymoron
@VinnieMTG2024
7 ай бұрын
part 2 arena card list we need: kird ape, the original signets,high tide,wild cantor, simian spirit guide,storm herd,eye of the storm, skred, BIRDS OF PARADISE, vampiric tutor cycle,fire//ice,undermine,noble hierarch, ignoble hierarch, path to exile,thorn of amethyst,reflecting pool, progenitus.
@kylegonewild
7 ай бұрын
I've found that Commander is fine for things like Point or PreCon Leagues but if people want to 1v1 compete, pick a competitive format or define the power level in a way that's easily understandable. Pauper EDH is a thing if you're trying to keep the power levels within a certain threshold and budget consideration. French/Duel have their own ban list(s) and whatnot I'm pretty sure. There's a reason WOTC barely supports like a dozen formats. You can't just keep shoving a social format into a competitive structure based on however Judge Hank feels that night.
@zazinjozaza6193
7 ай бұрын
Really missed Richard this episode
@hughmortyproductions8562
7 ай бұрын
I don't mind the change of "enters the battlefield" to just "enters", and it's way better than the alternative of printing "ETB" on the card. But I hate that Magic cards are getting so wordy that WotC needs to do this sort of thing to save space in text boxes.
@ireneochoa1427
7 ай бұрын
12:47 nah, I agree about banning them because of accessibility issues. Some of these cards are extremely hard to read, especially the latest secret lair cards. The tournaments should allow proxies in this case.
@ireneochoa1427
7 ай бұрын
Specifically talking about banning from tournament play
@51gunner
7 ай бұрын
Seriously, the LTR ones are utterly illegible. Saruman of Many Colors takes like three rereads to have a guess at what it does even BEFORE the words are smeared all over half the card. Pro players like LSV looked at that in their set review and were like ".... what?"
@tygiffin8131
7 ай бұрын
They really need to key word or shorten the phrase “you may spend mana as though it were mana of any color”
@skinkintreeshade3673
7 ай бұрын
Okay, but some of the various printings have been legitimately a problem. I'm not saying we should ban them outright, but things like the textless cryptic command and phyrexian cards have made it feel like you have to play with a gatherer page open. Also sucks the the cheapest version of any card is typically it's phyrexian version so you're a lot more likely to see them.
@SpecialKail
7 ай бұрын
Richard still upset about Tarmagoyf
@ilyafoskin
7 ай бұрын
55:35 The Day/Night mechanic
@ekolimitsLIVE
6 ай бұрын
I’ve had discussions about card games and referred to 3 and up as multiplayer as a “common” way to express this but people keep correcting me that 1v1 is “multiplayer” as if I didn’t know that. I just don’t think it should be considered multiplayer since all tcgs are at base level 1v1. What do you think?
@philosefer
7 ай бұрын
RE the Reddit post - The only time I’ve played Commander for prizes was Commander Legends Draft where I built a Nevinyrral, Urborg Tyrant deck that only cared about wiping the board and playing my commander in the same turn for 2/2s. The rest of the deck was nothing but counter spells, removal, discard effects, etc. and it’s the only Esper commander I’ve ever built/played in over 10 years of Commander. So while the post may not tell the whole story, the idea of being kicked out because the store doesn’t like your deck when in a tournament/prize setting is insane. You’re asking people to sweat when you put prizes on the line.
@DELTA-Gacha-Addict
7 ай бұрын
Whenever I start a EDH sessions I keep it as bring whatever you got since worrying about power level is just a hassle. Then if its about testing the deck then my group usually talks about whether they want to test it against average prebuilt edh or try against maximum risk.
@shadogiant
7 ай бұрын
online commander would be league of legends toxic
@nathand6467
7 ай бұрын
So many salty ropes,
@chrismarlow9585
6 ай бұрын
One I think should be keyworded/shortened is the stuff where you look at the top X of your library and do something. Similar story with impulse draw.
@TastySnackies
7 ай бұрын
If you can’t tell me what your card does without outside assistance, you shouldn’t be playing that card. Simple as.
@Teurger
7 ай бұрын
Step 1: put text on the back of full-art cards. Step 2: realize that you can put "some" reminder text on the back of normal cards. Step 3: "Questing Dragon Beast" with 5 keywords, 3 activated abilities, 2 ETBs and couple of lines of flavor text, because why not, we have ALL that space on the back, LET'S USE IT FULLY!
@JustAnotherPest
7 ай бұрын
22:58 People threw a fit over the terminology "dies." And "exile." And "battlefield." They really will complain about any change.
@neros_soren
7 ай бұрын
We shouldn't ever ban foils. Just no...WotC higher-ups should instead get their SH*T together and print non curling foils. It's so obvious how lacking the card stock is lately. I literally just tried something the other day, because I was re-sleeving some cards. I removed the inners from some more recent cards, put them on old cards...the sleeves were REALLY tight still. After noticing that, I went even further. I took some of my FFTCG and Digimon TCG cards, removed the inner and put them onto recent MTG cards. They were so loose, they peeled off without much pressure at times. About the keywording. I think "search" does still work. search on it's own means your own library. "search your opponents..." does the same but specifies the opponent.
@_claymore
7 ай бұрын
7:15 Crim: "we can't even handle cEDH in a tournament" - what? maybe I don't follow what Crim meant there, but cEDH has tournaments. they aren't "official", rather held by third parties, but they happen and work well. and it's not "12 people gather at their LGS to play against each other" kinda tournaments, but something like the smaller ones being ~64ish players and up to ~200 at others. the reason why cEDH tournaments work compared to EDH is that the competitive crowd plays with the strongest cards and everything goes, whereas casual EDH lacks a cohesive power level. if you figure out a way to make sure everyone is on the same power level, you totally could run "casual EDH tournaments" - it's just not "casual" anymore but rather "low(er) power cEDH" at that point.
@fredt1983
7 ай бұрын
They banned show and tell a day after this, *YOU HAVE THE POWER* !! Now onto making videos about removing shelly, the one ring, mono red, etc., etc.!
@herpderp66
7 ай бұрын
When EDH started our stored adopted it very quickly. A lot of long time players with huge collections we couldn't' play with. LGS decided to hold a tournament. 4 player pods. Winner of each pod would move on to next round. 40 players showed up. The top 4 players get put into the same pod first round. Claimed pods were random.....yeah right. I'm playing Animar, Soul of Elements. The precons were rather new at this time. I keep my hand. I can win on turn 3 or 4. I'm last to act. Player 1 sol rings. Player 2 land mana dork. Player 3 don't remember. Me Turn 1 land > birds of paradise. Player 1 kills my birds of paradise. Player 2 ramps, Player 3 don't remember. My turn 2 play land go. Player 1 Plow Under my 2 lands to the top of my deck. I spend the next 2 turns replaying my lands from the top of my deck and nothing else. Player 2 Plow Under my 2 land to the top of my deck. Another 2 turns playing my lands from top of my deck. Player 3 Plow Under my 2 land. During all of this time the entire table is attacking me with everything they have while I have nothing in play. I paid $25 to enter that tournament. NEVER AGAIN!!!! EDH is a flawed tournament format.
@RyuPlaneswalker
7 ай бұрын
"We don't want WOTC to restrict things" Come on, being able to restrict things in timeless means that WOTC should be more aggressive with it because they aren't removing the cards from the format entirely. The format is just the same old Garbage we have seen for the past 5 years. "Here is Primetime and Field of the Dead" "Oh look Dragon Rage Channeler with Delirium as a free roll because Mishra's Bauble" "Here is Show and Tell except without Force of Negation to police it a bit" It is amazing that when I see an Oko I am like "Oh how Quaint"
@thebigsquig
7 ай бұрын
The first red flag was it being a commander "tournament"
@nathand6467
7 ай бұрын
1v1 are you kidding me? of course its going to end up being singleton vintage.
@MrMalorian
7 ай бұрын
I like the Ramp keyword. Examples: Ramp Basic 2, or Ramp Any 1
@RIHTZ
7 ай бұрын
regarding juggle the performance, I feel inclined to believe that they are hinting towards multiplayer in MTGA. Magic has a history of teasing future keywords on cards (goyf for planeswalkers, atraxa for battles), which this sort of announcement would be similar to imo. also, regarding why use an Alchemy card for this “sneak peak,” I could see them wanting to create buzz and conversation around a format that they are trying to sell to enfranchised players.
@behemoth9543
7 ай бұрын
You can absolutely build even 100 or 50$ cEDH tier decks and find some other at least turn 4 win combo even if you ban commonly used cards so... thats a losing proposition. If someone intends to build the best deck for a given situation no sort of restriction is EVER going to make it casual, just look at how powerful pauper Commander decks can be. The idea of a casual competition itself just doesn´t work.
@Awesomesausages
7 ай бұрын
How long until we truly join Yu-Gi-Oh, and refer to the GY instead of the graveyard... Cards have enough words already. The simple fact etb could be etb for years on years on years, room for flavour text, for reminder text, I miss that.
@arsenicwolf2009
7 ай бұрын
My issue with the foils conversation is that some cards ONLY exist in foil or (as Crim pointed out) the cheapest version of that card only exists in foil (eg bundle version on The One Ring) so while the rest of your deck is non-foil you are forced to have to play foils because that is all that exists. You cannot force someone to foil their deck because WOTC made a busted foil only (before secret lair) Buy-A-Box promo card (Nexus of Fate) when they show up to a tournament.
@_Ve_98
7 ай бұрын
It's totally possible to have an "Arena for commander" client that keeps all the cards you already own for arena. It's even less expensive to do it that way because you don't have to store user data twice on the server. I actually think that arena eventually will have to split between several clients or format DLCs because the update sizes are getting absurd and will only get worse. This could also allow for more lightweight versions of the client, which they will probably need for mobile. I personally don't have arena on mobile because it just takes too much space. Why am I storing all of these alchemy and historic cards when I only play Explorer? It just feels wasteful. That said, I totally expect Wizards to make a client that is just arena with more cards and make us buy stuff again. I expect nothing less from the guys who kept Lightning Bolt as a rare on arena after making a new format where it is THE red removal/burn card.
@nbsIqEqoMu
7 ай бұрын
I would assume the person was a little b****, Not his/her deck they were just complaining so much or they were being so LOUD. Not the cards.
@leonfriedemann9151
7 ай бұрын
About just saying enters: I think this is a change, that might make it harder for newer players... and a change I don't like. I mean it's not like there will be less words on cards, when you cramp them down. There will be even more words. So not a fan myself. It takes even more away from the reading the card explains the card... As a new player X enters.... OK where does it enter?? The graveyard maybe?
@NateFinch
7 ай бұрын
I think the unreadable cards are a huge problem for competitive magic. I shouldn't have to pull up scryfall on my phone to know what my opponent's card does. I don't care if they're "legal game pieces", WotC decides what is and is not legal. If they can print non-standard legal cards in packs of standard sets, they can declare that only some versions of a card are tournament legal. They absolutely should ban textless and phyrexian versions of cards, and any versions that don't have standard text boxes (like the secret lair poster versions of cards). I don't think they need to go so far as to ban alternate art versions, but there should be some expectation of legibility. It's the most basic part of playing the game - the ability to read the cards to know what they do.
@joshuadempsey5281
6 ай бұрын
A player not recognizing a card because it’s an alternate art is not a reason to ban it. The same is true if the players just never seen that card before: they wouldn’t recognize it. This is the dumbest argument I have ever heard. These players who cry should not be allowed to play - that’s who we should ban lol. Also, about textless cards… Google image search exists 🤷🏻♂️
@simic0racle157
7 ай бұрын
1v1 commander has a different ban list than multiplayer commander and, mana crypt for one is banned. In that context why wouldn't the LGS remove the player playing banned cards?
@Eddyb1e
7 ай бұрын
The duality of MtG, I want to play my textless full art secret lair Rorschach blob art card. Also, wotc shouldn't be removing abilities and reminder text from cards.
@T_Peazy
7 ай бұрын
You CANNOT have a land that exiles itself to pull a basic from outside the game. Even if it takes up a card slot in your side board. It makes 5 color piles have no draw back at all. De building restrictions are the heart of the game. If you are missing a color you built your deck wrong.
@pidgeotroll
6 ай бұрын
19:00 I like Crim's move here, to keep texted versions on hand of all their deck's textless cards. I hope he does the same with the full text basic lands :P All joke aside, I do the same with all my double-faced cards, with an extra copy on hand flipped around in a different color sleeve, since I hate de-sleeving and re-sleeving my double-sleeved cards.
@matijatrajkovic6496
7 ай бұрын
Bro, people are playing commander in freaking tabletop simulator. You can't tell me WOTC can't invest enough money to hire skilled developers to implement commander on Arena, spaghetti code or not.
@TheBobaJames
7 ай бұрын
The game is not better as a whole for having so many different versions of a card that is also torment legal. 14:55
@olivergalitch5584
7 ай бұрын
For me, playing a foil japanese card in a english speaking tournament should require you to have at least a printed english version so your opponent can understand what the card does. It is the duty of the player to be fair and allow your opponent to understand your card if he never saw it before (specially important for new players). If you follow that logic, if you play against someone that has a handicap, you should be ready to help them understand what's going on. (for exemple : play closer to your opponent if that person is in a wheelchair that cannot properly look at your battlefied). Yeah you go to tournaments to win, but cheating and abusing your opponent is not right. "You don't read japanese? Tough luck" mindset should simply be banned.
@MrCenturion13
6 ай бұрын
Ah, the sing-song drone of Saffron Olive. Like nails on chalkboard, only without the charm.
@AWESMATHEGREAT
6 ай бұрын
I didn't fully read the Commander Tournament piece, and like Seth said, it's one-sided. But I could see the store using the french commander banlist and the poster not knowing.
@danw6485
7 ай бұрын
Great podcast but very exhausting. Are all these items discussed just showing how exhausting this game has become? The variants/foils in tournament play, templating changes, and commander/digital designed cards are all reasons for this. There are also other issues with the impact of booster fun, secret lairs, and multiple product lines. Anyone else feel like this has pushed you to reduce your collection rather than expand it?
@Its_McKennon
7 ай бұрын
The issue with the many card variants has been a frustration of mine for ages. I understand the people like having art for card that suits their style/interests, but I was watching a round of pioneer during the recent pro tour, and halfway through the match, I look over at their lands and every single land on the table looked like it was from a different card game. It just looked really ugly from a viewer's perspective and I couldn't tell what lands were in play. That didn't used to be the case, but now it feels very alienating. Definitely turns me off from watching coverage when someone plays a card I know, but don't recognize the art.
@_Ve_98
7 ай бұрын
I think there is an insane accessibility problem with foils and alternate arts but it has nothing to do with cards having different versions or textless/phyrexian variants. The problem is with how shitty and undistinguishable some of them are. Just look at the Innistrad Double Feature, those cards just look like black blobs, even on arena I have trouble just seeing what the hell is in the image, let alone identifying it. But the real issue is not identification or reading, a good player will know what the card does or just ask what card it is. The problem is how easy they are to confuse with one another. It's the whole Dryad Arbor thing but now with alternate art. It just requires so much constant effort from your opponent that it should be treated as cheating. Of course this doesn't happen with all alts and even then it only happens in combination with other cards, so it obviously doesn't warrant a full on ban for foils and alts. What I think should be done is require different game pieces to be distinguishable enough from one another and put special focus on how many cards in the deck look very similar. That way you'd let people play with their favourite card versions, while stopping assholes that are just trying to cheat or ruin everyone else's experience.
@whenwhere6173
18 күн бұрын
I would say no textless cards, because if it doesnt have words for a game rule textbox it is just a vanilla. The textless makes it like ok what does it do, i dont believe you
@kyleeversfield8276
7 ай бұрын
Interesting card design I just thought of that would allow a counterspell to be used to stop a combo but not also funstion as a way of protecting the combo at the same time. Shut Down 2UU You may dicard a blue card instead of paying this cards mana cost. If you do it cannot target a spell, if that spell also targets a spell. Counter Target Spell. --- Effectively it can do the free shutdown a combo thing for free, but cannot counter someone elses counter spell on the stack unless they actually pay the overcosted counter spell.
@GeistNebula
7 ай бұрын
They're all made by WOTC, if you're complaining on looking stuff up on your phone in the middle of play, learn patience you're not gonna die. They make decks unique and personal to each player.
@gemyniraptor8626
7 ай бұрын
TBF, the alt art argument of "Well now there's other art and i dont recognize it" is undermined by the fact that reprints exist. even before fullarts and Secret Lair and so on, we had reprints of classic cards that had more than one art. look at cards like Llanowar Elves, the card has at least two arts in its OG printing and that isn't even getting into old frame vs modern frames. That is not to say that people like visually impaired people don't have a grievance, but we can't act like this is actually a new thing. We, even enfranchised players, have all had that moment where we were like "what's that card?" you can ask to look and see a card at any point of the game where its out. call a judge over to explain the card. we have systems in place to adjudicate these issues, because they aren't new.
@CreateWorlds
7 ай бұрын
30:46 I don’t see how the wording is more convenient. It could’ve just been “of the other players hand” which seems more straightforward. I don’t know if that means we’re getting multiple player but the wording seems way more convoluted than it should be
@rhiannonreed8793
7 ай бұрын
The removal of reminder text was especially infuriating lately because it mainly affected the alt art cards, so if you pulled the card with the cool art like one of the cool dossier frames from Murders and it was one of the new keywords you were kinda SOL on what it did unless you also happened to get one with the default frame too (or decided to look it up via phone). It's like cool card art but what does it *do* again? It's not a matter that it doesn't fit because the default printings still have them so... why WotC?
@rodrigodepaula4198
7 ай бұрын
In here we have commander tournaments that works. It is 2v2 (not two headed) and have limits with the price of the deck. The deck must have $150 or $250.
@YouandWhoseArmy
5 ай бұрын
The fact of the matter is WOTC doesn’t care about the game being clear and easy to understand. They just want you to fork over as much cash as possible. Gameplay is taken a back seat to everything.
@Shimatzu95
7 ай бұрын
I dont particulary mind alt arts but there IS definitively an annoyence when you have to check cards for what they do all the time cause you cant recognice them. As someone that plays almost exclusively edh this is actially worse cause you have to divide attention to all other players. This is pretty much the only time where i understand crims MR CLEAN aka keep the board clear ideology. Edit: this is only in reguard to variants that are visuably verry distinct, mostly secret lairs or custom alt arts.
@BananaP_uwu
7 ай бұрын
Your "commander on Arena" discussion made me think maybe Wizards could make a new commander online client that you need an Arena account to log in to, that way you could use your Arena cards on this new client. I doubt they're working on it at the moment tho, it's most likely just formating an online only card's text as if it could have worked in paper or maybe they thought about multiplayer on Arena as a concept and this is future proofing just in case they actually manage to make it work in the future.
@Bongus_Bubogus
6 ай бұрын
You know, after the cmc and shuffle change, that particular set was the start to this whole “too many words on cards” era, right? The change is 100% implemented because design wants more words, not to reduce them, this is an omen.
@andrewduncan4375
6 ай бұрын
There’s a lot of things they could improve on with Keywords like instead of exile target whatever and return it to the battlefield they could just start using “blink”
@QuicksilverSG
7 ай бұрын
The Japanese language cards in the Strixhaven set are completely unrecognizable to people who can't read Japanese. Tournaments should require printed errata tags be slipped inside the card sleeves of foreign language cards to make them readily identifiable to all players.
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