If you travel a lot and go places sure they are definitely worth the money, but if you stay at home get a desktop 100% Edit: if you dont have room then get a gaming laptop
@rocky-zx6kq
2 жыл бұрын
If you live in a country with one of the most highest rising energy bills, get a laptop
@noobscoopsies1100
2 жыл бұрын
Or your house have a terrible electricity capacity.
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly even in house i prefer laptop most of the time, it provides much more comfort and flexibility. On couch, on bed, at garden of your house, wherever you feel comfortable, you can use your laptop there. İt's still worth getting a desktop too if money isn't a problem, much better screen and doesn't overheat like mad, quite significant advantage.
@NGT4LIFE
2 жыл бұрын
@ right,its more convenient having basically a mobile pc even if you never take it out with you. Atleast you can easily move it from room to room when you like.
@ricsi4368
2 жыл бұрын
@@rocky-zx6kq you could always undervolt
@JackG79
6 ай бұрын
I bought a gaming laptop because we didn't have the room for a full setup. So i got a gaming laptop and played at the coffee table in the living room. Now it's all I buy. I didn't want to be isolated from my family. Now we all gather around it and play, or I play while wife watches TV or me and the boys get on a game together with their iPads. I love a good gaming laptop. I'm on my 3rd one. Just got the new legion i914HX with 64 ram DDR-5 Ram and RTX-4090.
@clapchow7036
Жыл бұрын
Nothing beats the reliability & efficiency of a PC. If something in your high-end gaming laptop breaks, you're done. If someone breaks in your PC, just replace it easily.
@dracoking5690
Жыл бұрын
Personally I agree with that statement but I will still get laptops because I constantly go to my cousin to play games there
@clapchow7036
Жыл бұрын
@@dracoking5690 I understand. You travel a lot so efficiency is crucial to you. No problem, you'll just have to game in a very cool room + the external fan for under the laptop.
@dracoking5690
Жыл бұрын
@@clapchow7036 yeah I live in a cool place so I don’t have to worry
@Platinum199
Жыл бұрын
@@clapchow7036I don’t even need a external fan for my laptop. Temps never really go high probably because I clean my system every 6 months or so
@Kevin-fj5oe
Жыл бұрын
@@clapchow7036no, never need both of that stuff.
@cosmey449
Жыл бұрын
just depends when you get it. I got a laptop last year when gpu shortages were bad, and it runs way better than a desktop of the same price would have cost
@cecil_242
Жыл бұрын
honestly, the mid range ones like Acer Nitro, Lenovo Legion 5, HP Victus etc... are totally worth it especially for students and devs
@killerking7374
Жыл бұрын
If you ignore it cost around 40% more than a pc
@cecil_242
Жыл бұрын
@@killerking7374 i agree, bring a pc to work / school
@killerking7374
Жыл бұрын
@@cecil_242 I mean at that point just buy 1 for work and 1 for school xD
@killerking7374
Жыл бұрын
@@cecil_242 well I just unlocked school pics admin then logged into wifi using admin and disabled firewalls... could even buy cheap 100 dollar gpu and put in... didn't need to for me since school ones had 1060s
@username-ew1de
Жыл бұрын
@@killerking7374 bring your PC at work
@Iwillddosyou_
2 жыл бұрын
Whoever is wondering, it’s about 3,000 on Amazon
@chessmaster3297
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks couldn’t find the affiliate link
@bautillados1958
2 жыл бұрын
thank you
@AppL..P1e
Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@Danilio.
Жыл бұрын
Link?
@Iwillddosyou_
Жыл бұрын
I tried to put the link up but it got taken down
@majinboo6377
Жыл бұрын
only build a gaming desktop if ure already settle in one place. if not, gaming laptop is the way to go.
@jcapp14
2 жыл бұрын
3080ti laptop version so really more like a 3060 full size
@luffyRTS
Жыл бұрын
A 3060 laptop max tdp is basically the same a a desktop 3060 and the 3080ti laptop easily outperforms a 3060 desktop
@stare4539
10 ай бұрын
Even a 3070 laptop is faster than 3060 lmfao. 3080 ti is more like 2080 super. 4090 laptop is 3090 desktop
@apersonontheinternet8354
11 ай бұрын
Gaming laptops can be great but battery life tends to suffer. I just end up getting a laptop with a good screen and great battery life, and if I need good performance, I can stream my desktop to it from anywhere with internet
@mikay971
5 ай бұрын
I bought a asus tuf a15 back in 2021, this is because in 2021 i started IT, but i wanted a gaming computer too. Thats why i bought this one with a 3060 and a 7 5800h. Upgraded it with 32gb ram and 2tb m.2. And until now it is the best investment i did in my life.
@XKurrA
2 жыл бұрын
This guy legit forgot a laptop is a regular PC
@colevandyken2871
8 ай бұрын
Hot take: anything more than a mid range laptop isnt worth it, you can get a desktop setup at that point
@Kannan_50
11 ай бұрын
Bro lots of people say it’s good for portability but honestly just save for a good pc. And buy a cheap laptop if u really want. I bought one and it’s giving new issues every here and now. Unless ur mega rich I would not recommend getting it
@justcheese545
2 жыл бұрын
Cooling. Enough said.
@suborgulag7289
2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit dude! You can cram bigger fans and heatsinks into a chassis that's got up to 50 times the volume of a laptop?? Would've never fucking guessed that, genius
@steph_on_yt
2 жыл бұрын
@@suborgulag7289 who asked?
@suborgulag7289
2 жыл бұрын
@@steph_on_yt No one needs to ask dumbfuck we're on the internet
@stare4539
10 ай бұрын
Who asked?@@steph_on_yt
@stare4539
10 ай бұрын
Laptops have water cooling
@droomahbroo9291
Жыл бұрын
The problem with “gaming” laptops is that every manufacturer is trying to push their product with the highest specs possible when the only thing actually hindering them is the cooling.. so until they get the cooling right - gaming laptops are a scam
@tbspromotions
Жыл бұрын
My step brother has a gaming laptop. He flips them every year to get a newer model. He’s been doing it for years and he seems to always have good shit
@epicgamerjeremie
2 жыл бұрын
Pc better bc you can go with the flow bur laptop you got to rebuy or trade in each 4 or 3 years
@sense5151
2 жыл бұрын
Pc and laptop are the same
@TacticalPhoenixYT
2 жыл бұрын
@@sense5151 no, laptops tend to be worse than desktop pcs for same "specs"
@sense5151
2 жыл бұрын
@@TacticalPhoenixYT pc = laptop and desktop. But yes desktop is more powerful then laptop
@epicgamerjeremie
2 жыл бұрын
For non tech people for tech people or that know a bit knows they not the same
@300sekkq
2 жыл бұрын
@@sense5151 bro speaks in terms💀💀💀
@AvgiEfexis
Жыл бұрын
the thing is, when it breaks it breaks, like mine
@mgdii5435
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. If you don’t want or don’t have space for a pc a gaming laptop with good specs will serve you well, and you can take with you too.
@Zenibo11
2 жыл бұрын
Do you wanna cook eggs on this? It will do it! 👍
@HispainmygainJ316
14 күн бұрын
I had a 21” dell xps back in the day. Where did the gaming laptops with massive screens go?
@dimasskarabas
2 жыл бұрын
What I don't like is that they never list the retail price or the manufactrer price. Doing so really fucking helps.
@blu_223
Жыл бұрын
"Why did you buy a gaming laptop instead of a desktop" "i dont have space on my table"
@abdelrahmanalaa2340
Жыл бұрын
This is a real struggle for me Litrally living in a 1.5 x 2 m room Add a bed Desk Wardrobe A chair U cant literally stand without hitting a thing 🙃
@dumplingcendawan9292
Жыл бұрын
You can have vesa mount for monitor + laptop. That will gave you some space at your table.
@abdelrahmanalaa2340
Жыл бұрын
@@dumplingcendawan9292 will try it Thanks 🙏
@Deepxrobi
Жыл бұрын
After 15 min gaming with full potential laptop catching fire
@oliverreader2954
Жыл бұрын
if you give me the money for it ill happily check it out!
@turkeyswissandcheddaronwho8203
2 жыл бұрын
I want a gaming laptop not for gaming but for schoolwork and stuff like thatx I want to have a strong laptop that wont freeze and will render and load stuff well, and maybe goof off in class with
@ericleeSupSayK
10 ай бұрын
You don’t need close tot hat type of specs if all you tun are esports game. Laptop around the 1k mark can pretty much run any benchmark games
@AkaLxndon1
Жыл бұрын
having owned one, it’s not worth it. they’re great systems, don’t get me wrong but if you plan to seriously game or even stream then it is absolutely not right for you. the biggest issues being the cut performance and the thermals, which will ruin your system if you try to use it like a desktop. unless you’re constantly on the move, just build a desktop
@potato7297
Жыл бұрын
though keep in mind that pc can be cheaper than good laptops because laptops have to make all the components smaller to fit inside but on a pc doesn't have any size limits though but if you want a gaming laptop remember a good laptop can be very expensive
@Valyrisss
Жыл бұрын
So you'd go for a gaming pc?
@proxyhx2075
Жыл бұрын
@@Valyrisss Yeah.
@MellowRivers
Жыл бұрын
bro literally never looked at the camera
@ThePrime-official
7 ай бұрын
The main reason to get a Gameing laptop it’s because it’s mobile it has a built-in screen and a building keyboard so you won’t have to pay for a monitor or a keyboard only a mouse more than a computer because he doesn’t need to be put into a wall you don’t need to bring a monitor with it and you don’t need to bring an actual keyboard with it
@hixta
2 жыл бұрын
It's way hotter especially an intel cpu+3080, thermal throttling can become an issue. Build a pc if you want to maximize high end hardware. For laptops I think an i5+3050 combo is sufficient.
@Stardomplay
Жыл бұрын
Yikes
@thaothanhcao3270
5 ай бұрын
Now i feel like my laptop is bad with a GTX 1650
@xxjohnnydrbcxx
Жыл бұрын
Yea but it’s gonna be loud I have one an that thing whenever I turn it on haha
@koda1778
Жыл бұрын
I would get both, the laptop first because it's probably cheaper to get, and I dont care about majority of your typical benchmark test games. Then when I go for a desktop, I'd try to max it out.
@weaponsmith
Жыл бұрын
Get ready to pay 5 times your parent’s salary
@DKaldes
11 ай бұрын
I'd say RTX 4060 laptops are the best for the price as they match the desktop equivalent in performance and usually are not much more expensive than desktops
@XD-qh4ei
Жыл бұрын
Remember even if your laptop seems to have the same specs than a high end pc that they are usually 20-30% slower
@MSBS-qc9le
Жыл бұрын
if you wanna have a space heater you can get one for way cheaper than that
@commentwar4802
2 жыл бұрын
If you’re gonna stay at home and play games there, don’t buy a gaming laptop, you’re not going anywhere and laptops are supposed to be portable
@peanutter
Жыл бұрын
Bro my teacher has that laptop 💀
@Uncharted_Roblox
2 жыл бұрын
I want laptop that looks like school laptop but is for gaming lol
@Drstrange3000
Жыл бұрын
I have a Zephyrus G14 and it kind of looks like a school Ultrabook. Super light too.
@p1o_nutella650
Жыл бұрын
Look for HP victus, super clean black, silent, no rbg everywhere or colored key and run really good games
@turnipaitor
Жыл бұрын
I actually got the predator triton but a different model with a 3070 and i7 Arguably the best purchase of I’ve made in a while.
@ariobotgaming
11 ай бұрын
If its just for gaming, cheaper ones with 3060, 4050 is enough. Of course it cannot run everything at high or even medium at times. But those ones are the most value for your money. You will probably replace gaming laptop within 5 years anyways, so why bother going overboard on a laptops which you cant upgrade.
@Curtis_Plays_yt
Жыл бұрын
Think about the heat you can generate safely in a desktop versus a laptop. A 3080ti in a laptop does not equal a 3080ti in a desktop.
@snakespare1221
9 ай бұрын
I need a laptop so bad but dont have any money
@mrtudoricat
2 жыл бұрын
Yes they are they r great for work And u can play on it after
@tony_T_
Жыл бұрын
Cant even put it on your lap without getting third degree burns
@Platinum199
Жыл бұрын
That’s if you have a shitty one with a bad cooling system
@tony_T_
Жыл бұрын
@@Platinum199 It doesn't matter what cooling system you have, that thing is gonna get hot enough to cook an egg on it.
@Platinum199
Жыл бұрын
@@tony_T_ my temps are always fine even on demanding games at high/med settings it can feel a little warm something on the back but never hot
@overlordbones
Жыл бұрын
i have a laptop that made me have to put ice on my leg for an hour
@tony_T_
Жыл бұрын
@@overlordbones lmao
@_KaiFN_
10 ай бұрын
Never got the name of the laptop nice
@Damian-cilr2
2 жыл бұрын
i usually play on a table not on a desk,because its being used for something else.so a desktop pc really isnt for me.
@derkee
2 жыл бұрын
my wallet has a fly coming out
@jaysonav
Жыл бұрын
😓🤣👌
@mohammedrasiq7829
Жыл бұрын
This guy : check this bad guy out Me : here comes the money *money money money money*
@thunderacrossthereef3323
Жыл бұрын
3080 ti mobile not a 3080ti big difference can't put 30 ture 30 series in laptops functionally closer to 2080 in terms of performance not mention thermal throttling still good laptop but 30% worse than on paper atleast
@ryanwalker4660
2 жыл бұрын
no, they aren't...
@Platinum199
Жыл бұрын
I got one for only $898 AUD and it has a gtx 1650 intel core i5 11300h 16gb ram and 512gb storage ssd it does everything I needed it to do I’d say that’s money well spent
@notisity388
8 ай бұрын
@@Platinum199 this comment is 1 year old. Hope you realised how scammed you got. Your rig is fine, but the price is unjustified. Build it by pieces, not hard and cheaper
@Platinum199
8 ай бұрын
@@notisity388 comment was a year old but I got the laptop 2-3 years ago and in Australia at the time everything was up in price 898 AUD (around 588 USD) was the best I could find
@clapthunder686
Жыл бұрын
Well I want to be a Graphic Designer for Landscaping, And the only games I'll be playing is like, The sims and one shooting game and for graphic designing PS and Adobe and maybe more I don't know, Depending on what my job requires but that's it.. I also want to do fulltime rv living most likely in the city. I'm not sure which would be best. I Went on Lumos by digital storm to connect with someone and I explained everything and the guy I spoke with recommended this PC that was almost 3,000 US Dollars. I don't know I felt iffy on why he recommended like the most expensive one out of all of them so I said thank you and disconnected. I just don't want people to try to sell the most expensive ones just to drain my pocket. I felt like it wasn't because of my needs but because of the tag, His response was like pretty much immediate.
@LightiNovel
Жыл бұрын
105 Celsius + thermal throttling and 5k$: Am i joke to you?
@IAMBATMAAANNN
9 ай бұрын
Razer blade series has left the chat.
@PurpleEyedYT
Жыл бұрын
The 16:10 aspect ratio is bugging me ☹️
@_M.e.l.a.n.i.e_
Жыл бұрын
I considered it before I realised they were over 2 thousand dollars (since I'm not very stable with money)
@idcnetwerk9265
Жыл бұрын
Some people travel with their PC. They put the PC in a box 📦 wherever they go 😂
@armygreenfj3924
Ай бұрын
What head phones are those? Also for me as a dad with two toddlers a gaming laptop works best.
@wolfrig2000
Жыл бұрын
A gaming laptop is definitely a niche, it's not for everyone, like an electric car. But if it fits your style it's unbeatable. If it doesn't, then don't do it.
@monkeywheel5522
Жыл бұрын
If it has a good mic, camera and can run games like Roblox or GTA V on 1080p max graphics it’s good. I guess something like a laptop with gtx 1650 would be good for that purpose without having to sell your left kidney to afford it
@monkeywheel5522
7 ай бұрын
Creator laptops are actually the best for those purposes, they usually have good overall specs which is their main focus, but they also have dedicated graphics cards that originally may have been intended for modeling, rendering, drawing, programming etc. but they also just happen to be capable of gaming
@J3RIMIh
Жыл бұрын
Well, I really don’t have the money for one. If you could send me any kind of gaming laptop I really appreciate it and I will also put in lots and lots of work of making games if you can help me with the support I would really like that
@apevus6082
Жыл бұрын
There is a good pc called the msi gf63 its 600 bucks but runs well, the asus tufs are about 600-1000 and are gaming beasts
@noobiexd640
Жыл бұрын
Yes mom need it for zoom
@Borderlands808
3 ай бұрын
I’m looking for one like this but for 10-20 dollars. What can I get for that?
@SSSGamerHQ
Жыл бұрын
Gaming laptops are not a good option because they overheat quickly, its fine if you're only playing for a couple of hours though
@austinbryant9097
Жыл бұрын
This helps, thank you
@bearskorner9790
Жыл бұрын
I'm getting like a Acer Rog Nitro 5 something like that with a 1650 graphics card in like 12 GB Ram I want to play a game like boneworks on it but if I don't get a VR headset to play boneworks within two months after my birthday I'm probably just going to install like Ubuntu Linux on it because most the games I play are supported by Ubuntu Linux so I'm really just going to use it for light desktop use and medium and low and gaming
@bearskorner9790
4 ай бұрын
Quick update it died like 4 months after it was being used by me because I accidentally put the charger on the wrong port anyway I finally got a new gaming laptop Asus g74sx it was only a hundred bucks too
@kasper369
Жыл бұрын
At this point it's validation to call that laptop a laptop, it a PC or a unit
@MR_HUMAN228
Жыл бұрын
You want to fry an egg on it "YOU CAN DO IT!"
@MGZWarrior
Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who hates those tacky stickers all over the laptop?
@goobisoft4873
Жыл бұрын
Unless it doesn't always get thermal throttle
@medical_tomato1206
Жыл бұрын
Surprisingly enough I managed to make my laptop have the same temperature my friends pc has which was like 70 - 80 degrees
@HotelHero
2 жыл бұрын
I've got the T300 SE i7-11th 3060 and it is indeed a champ
@youvsanoob
9 ай бұрын
I just want more than 40 frames on minecraft
@largemilkcarton7720
11 ай бұрын
Bro forgot to put on the nvidia eye tracking software
@AgentDanishMan
Жыл бұрын
Razor Blade 16 is even better with a more powerfull core
@kiljonlenin
10 ай бұрын
Opinion on razer blade 14 (rtx 4070, 32 gb ram, ryzen 9) used for college and gaming
@lalalalalala9109
Жыл бұрын
You wanna cook dinner while playing? This laptop can do both
@ValdrinMusa
Жыл бұрын
Batter and Thermal thredding
@MK1994__
Жыл бұрын
Are gaming laptops worth it? Honestly it depe- “shoots”
@heisenberg6442
Жыл бұрын
About 5 times more then a Ps5. Definitely a no no. Plus if there is any issues with the laptop Im done. No to mention the wear and tear on components and the need to replace them later. PS5 is more convenient and provides a better gaming experience.
@MonicaHolly143
2 жыл бұрын
My parents are divorced so they bought me a nitro 5 when i was a kid 🙃
@Real_Nutella
Жыл бұрын
That's such overkill though. $1400 Gaming PCs can run every game phenomenally depending on what pieces you invest in. Plus they are easier to fix, and upgrade, look nicer, and don't have a built in screen you can accidentally break anywhere at any given time. Learn how to build a PC and save up for a midrange PC price to start out with. I bought a gaming laptop for gaming + college stuff and I kind of regret it. It's a great computer, but not worth $1100 for something that is fragile, will need its battery replaced soon, and something I can't easily upgrade over time.
@anzeiru5871
Жыл бұрын
Yea i have a zephyrus g15 its a real good laptop with other functions such as mousepad dryer hand warmer Like fr its kinda warm but not to the point that it hurts and drys my pad since its always humid in my country
@Trusttheprocess927
2 жыл бұрын
This is nixe. The asus Roy strix g15 advantage edition is also rly good. Ppl say they don’t like asus but I’ve had no problems. It runs fine 200 fps in cod modern warfare and 130-150 In rebirth
@cyan_2169
Жыл бұрын
Been contemplating a gaming laptop to go with my Cintiq for doing 3D modeling while traveling (my job requires a lot of travel). Not really sure where to start though
@FDK_Spectrum
Жыл бұрын
What is your edition software and is it free
@icandrawwell7595
Жыл бұрын
The me thing when you get a desktop is that you have buy a monitor too
@beardeddawg8509
Жыл бұрын
And keyboard
@ssruizhang
2 жыл бұрын
I think it boils down to whether you own any gaming consoles. I have friends who are perfectly content with their Macbooks because they game exclusively on their Ps5 & Xbox. My Zephyrus G14 was worth it until the day I got my Oled Switch and now I can't help but feel like guilty because I have a gaming laptop for ultra thin laptop type of workloads. Yeah my 120hz refresh rate on the laptop is sweet, with good colour accuracy but for videos & movies i'm always with my 8K tv or Oled tablet anyway. So before you consider a gaming laptop, ask yourself what do you intend to do with it, and what other electronics (Tv, console, tablet, phone) do you have
@muhammedgameryttvo2871
2 жыл бұрын
asus tuf a15 with a RTX 3060 and 144hz refreshrate and a AMD Ryzen 7 5600h with 16gb ram and 512gb ssd with an extra 1tb hdd is aroun like 1600
@MFgloxk
2 жыл бұрын
Easy answer: no bro, just get a pc😂
@lil_brumski
2 жыл бұрын
Laptops are still PCs, are u drunk or something?
@Stardomplay
Жыл бұрын
@@lil_brumski he watches anime. He has no brain.
@subsay3rsucks586
Жыл бұрын
I just want a laptop that can do 3d modeling on the high end
@xzarz6358
2 жыл бұрын
-Why did you buy gaming laptop? -It’s a free heater in winter!
@achyut7120
2 жыл бұрын
It's definitely not free 💀💀💀💀💀
@xzarz6358
2 жыл бұрын
@@achyut7120 ik
@domiclips4401
2 жыл бұрын
Your Mum can even cook on the back of it
@joetate87
2 жыл бұрын
Except that it can't even do that better then a pc
@frozenturbo8623
2 жыл бұрын
Basically a gaming device and heater all in 1, that's why I still use my PS4.
@Zynphii
Жыл бұрын
Yeah not bad right, you only need to spend about $2.5k
@krossboe8512
Жыл бұрын
2.5k isn’t that bad for a laptop with these specs.
@eclipsaevalorant7684
Жыл бұрын
My laptop is 1450$ and has a 3070 ti and a 12th gen i7 and can run anything and has a 1440p 165hz screen
@Evozeto
Жыл бұрын
@@eclipsaevalorant7684 what laptop u have
@krossboe8512
Жыл бұрын
@@eclipsaevalorant7684 what laptop do you have???!? I need to get that genuinely asking
@Luke-uz9sf
Жыл бұрын
@@krossboe8512 bro wtf are u on
@heavylemons4956
2 жыл бұрын
It's all fun and games until the fan starts to sound like an airplane Edit : To All The People Telling me to use headphones you guys must be crazy if you think I'm going to ignore the fact that my system is literally melting .
@normified
2 жыл бұрын
a i r d u s t e r
@pham3383
2 жыл бұрын
The fan only ramps up when i do rendering,when i do office or youtube ,nothing happens Ideapad gaming 2020 i5 10300h,gtx1650ti
@LCJammer
2 жыл бұрын
barely hear mine if you know how to tweak it. also, you can just put on headphones which cuts out the fan noise.
@ViralTube_1
2 жыл бұрын
@@pham3383 cuz u don't have a 3080 ti trust me that shit gets hot
@cubixxty
2 жыл бұрын
*N o i s e C a n c e l l i n g H e a d p h o n e s*
@kingsteezy7666
2 жыл бұрын
Dudes whole life is an ad bruh bet he starts off the morning brushing his teeth as a promo vid for Samsung's new toothpaste
@User_2051
Жыл бұрын
checking out new samsung tooth paste, the micro cleaning crystals have bixby bult in! so anytime throghout the day you can say "hey bixby, call joe schmoe" and bixby will call....lmao
@he8535
Жыл бұрын
Laptop should fit in a backpack and not be bricked because it got a little squeezed by a history book like my did
@resof
11 ай бұрын
@@he8535ahhhhhhh okay????
@Brian11295
Жыл бұрын
"Okay lets check how much this thang costs..." *"2000 DOLLARS?* Oh yea Imma go get the milk"
@009mbarek
Жыл бұрын
It's 2099 actually, never underestimate the 99 usd.
@Masteroogway97553
Жыл бұрын
2.1k isnt much for a laptop if u ask me
@Pearloryx
Жыл бұрын
It's ironic that PC gamers went from mocking mobile users with "ur poor" to laptop users with this comment.
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