Thousand Sons are loving these. Mostly playing at least 4-6 squads of rubrics, all battleline, and still can do cabal point double move at the beginning of the shooting phase (unable to being overwatched), AND do actions, as it is not an advance move! :)
@Malod1997
4 ай бұрын
And they have flamers, so it will be hard to charge them to stop their actions.
@anthonywarne9751
3 ай бұрын
Chaos in general are going to fair well as Rubrics, Plague Marines, Beserkers, Legionaries, and cultists are all solid. Chaos just packs a lot of heat in the battle line compared to a lot of other factions.
@aliywafiy
4 ай бұрын
Well Imperial Knight and Chaos Knight lookin good
@jacobthomas3648
3 ай бұрын
Me and my 40k buddies have been saying that infantry is becoming more meta. And me with my Votann with blast weapons are excited 😆🎉
@BloodBuffalo
4 ай бұрын
I'm excited to try a lot of these
@lvletal
4 ай бұрын
Army lists are gonna be wildly shifting Can’t wait to hear how/what they say this changes for fixed options…
@piotrjeske4599
3 ай бұрын
You think that a custodes army is going to run guard instead of wardens or run bikes/dreadnoughts? I don't think so. They will have to play the same lists , only they will be less fun to play. Same with stuff like DW terminator armies or ad mecha.
@Slaave
3 ай бұрын
Dread talons msu spam with 30 jump bodies zooming around doing actions and BSing everything to interfere with scoring
@ThePlagueAngel
3 ай бұрын
Admech's tactic of feeding you skitarii squads and performing secondaries because the alpha has a pistol has been flushed down the drain, I wonder what new depths their winrate will plumb
@Grifter742003
3 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the mission deck, and I'm adding more battleline units to my list.
@AnotherViewBot
4 ай бұрын
Too bad they are sold out while still being in pre order.
@Zombiefishers-ll2mo
3 ай бұрын
Yall, great stuff but PLEASE turn the mics up a bit. This is recorded very low
@jademonkey173
4 ай бұрын
Do you get the points from Adapt or Die from the first fixed choice? Like Can i take bring it down, kill 10 points of vehicles first turn, switch to Establish Locus and score that for another 15?
@danielhughes3758
3 ай бұрын
I assume so, but not sure
@thomassierp5583
3 ай бұрын
I'm really excited about this :)
@Chuckanory
4 ай бұрын
Really like the sound of this new mission pack and definitely makes for a far more interactive game. Will be interested to see how the next MfM and data slate adjust for these
@BloodBuffalo
4 ай бұрын
Me too. Battleline units are my favorite for wargaming so I'm excited.
@Chuckanory
4 ай бұрын
@@BloodBuffalo just great to have them have more value. I've got 3 units of battle line in my current army so works out well for sure!
@BloodBuffalo
4 ай бұрын
@Chuckanory I play guard and blood angels. Assault intercessors being able to do actions in combat is cool. Catachans being able to scout, movemovemove then advance into an action is cool.
@wowshun
4 ай бұрын
So, a question for you: What stops hordes from just taking 19 models? :D
@toferkrz946
4 ай бұрын
Nothing at the moment. But we are supposed to get a slew of new FAQ and errata with the new season.
@taten-jinmu718
4 ай бұрын
Likely going to be a faq answer saying you have to take the full unit. Would be ridiculous to just run 19boyz every unit to troll that rule.
@michaelcostello6962
3 ай бұрын
Nothing. However it comes with a price of not being able to take two leaders or potentially ruining weapon options. Obviously some armies have hordes with neither weapons options or leaders and they will definitely look at doing this competitively. I think a 15+ models cap would've been more effective!
@thomassierp5583
3 ай бұрын
My 20 man guard infantry units are absolutely taking 2 heavy weapons teams and laughing all the way to the bank 😆
@Tosolo-dh2co
3 ай бұрын
Love Jordan, fantastic guy! Fun and full of energy 🎉 Michaels a great dude when he can relax and enjoy the process. But seriously, someone give Stephen (there's your bloody H) a chill pill. He's a control freak with no chill. Im sure he's good at the game, but he sounds like an acchole. Stephen sounds like a middle manager with a power complex. Again, I'm sure he's good at what he does however that is no excuse for not treating people with respect.
@jj_aka_albinoboy5686
4 ай бұрын
Really liking the sound of this new deck, will need to completely overhaul list design now that Battleline is more important and BGNT, Pistol, Advancing is no longer relevant for objectives.
@CursedCowboy
3 ай бұрын
great work gents!
@cba45678
3 ай бұрын
Fog of war mission rule seems a little rough if you're playing Mont'ka T'au 😢
@danielhughes3758
3 ай бұрын
Do leader wounds count towards BiD or is it just the actual unit that died. I'm thinking specifically about Morvenn Vahl + paragons. If the leader wounds are counted as part of starting wounds then you get 6 VP for destroying the paragons. Otherwise you get 2 VP like you would if they run without Vahl. Alternatively, do you not get points until the whole conbined unit is killed and then score 6 VP? I doubt that though since a unit is destroyed when the bodyguard or Vahl are killed
@michaelcostello6962
3 ай бұрын
So if you wipe vahl and the paragons you get 4vp. 2vp for the 12 wounds suits unit. Then 2vp for vahl as she is also a vehicle unit under 15 wounds.
@danielhughes3758
3 ай бұрын
@@michaelcostello6962 That is what makes sense. However, rules as written (not as intended), wouldn't the starting wounds for the unit consider the whole unit? At least starting strength considers the whole unit. I think the 4 VP makes sense but I have a friend that insists that rules as written it should be 6+2 since the starting strength/wounds of the unit considers the leader as well. When the paragons die then the starting strength is changed for the remaining unit but it doesn't say explicitly that it changes for the dead unit. I agree with you that 4 VP is what it should be, but I'm not sure how to convince him or myself that it doesn't become more rules as written (again, probably not as intended)
@robertlosacco139
4 ай бұрын
So looking forward to use my Green Tide and have my army that is all Battleline, get a mission pack that focuses on my Boyz...pistol.................it's better for the game?????
@johnbarnes9247
3 ай бұрын
Dont know if i have missed something along the line, but the shatter cohesion secerate objective, if you table your opponent dont you win automaticly regardles of VP?? I get that there are other peramitiers that allow you to score this, but the tabeling one feels obsolete! Or have they changed that rule and i missed it!
@joshuacovus7935
3 ай бұрын
Dark angels hunter detachment is now god teir
@Dewoy1
4 ай бұрын
All i wanna know is, how Tyranids are going to adapt to it.
@ClassFInquisition
3 ай бұрын
With only a points update likely on the 22nd, Tyranids are dead on arrival imo in PN. OC zero actions was an auto include biovore, now tyrant's have no score and no viable anti-armor.
@Dewoy1
3 ай бұрын
@@ClassFInquisition Lets be a little more optemistic.
@ssvishnov
3 ай бұрын
I'm assuming you can still play Leviathan if you want right? Like as long as you're playing 10th you can do whatever you want with your friends
@ClassFInquisition
3 ай бұрын
No one's stopping you, have fun. That said, may not be entirely viable if points shift to accommodate PN, and the unit rules doing similar.
@robertlosacco139
4 ай бұрын
I get to do swift action, AWESOME! I get to do an action even if I advanced or fell back...pistol.........it's better for the game?????
@floriankliemke8411
3 ай бұрын
Can OC0 units, that gained 1 OC from an ability (like Saga Of Majesty from the Champions of Russ Detachment rule) perform Actions? Or is it based on the base OC of the unit?
@mumblez7712
3 ай бұрын
If reducing an OC makes you ineligible, then gaining OC *should* allow it. Good one for an FaQ tho
@michaelcostello6962
3 ай бұрын
Yes! As far as we can see. Increasing OC unlocks Actions!
@johnmartin6700
4 ай бұрын
good vid bois
@robertlosacco139
4 ай бұрын
stalwart... awesome..my only battleline units are the boyz I get to do an action and shoot...wait ...key word pistol... it's better for the game.??
@mikefitzgerald3498
4 ай бұрын
would these mission changes effect units without ranged capabilities?
@AnotherViewBot
4 ай бұрын
Eligible to shoot doesn't mean they have to have a ranged weapon.
@mikefitzgerald3498
4 ай бұрын
That's a relief. Just wanted to make sure given that rules are changing they're not potentially changing that too
@francoabad4911
3 ай бұрын
No cover weapon rule ignores Fog of War Mission Rule??
@michaelcostello6962
3 ай бұрын
Yup!
@piotrjeske4599
3 ай бұрын
So how is this going for armies that run battle line unit and who don't have "free" point to take their 200pts battle line units. All that focus on those battle line unit and going middle fast and hard , doesn't work for armies. Or it will work and they will just lose. Titanic units can do actions and shot, because it is unfun to do nothing with 400pts. Well a unit of wardens with a hero is 400pts plus too. And now without assault weapons allowing to do actions , it is even harder to do missions for those slow infantry elite armies.
@robertlosacco139
4 ай бұрын
no actions if you have the key word pistol is better for the game.....I only have orks and almost all them are boyz "green tide" , yep I can see that it is better for the game
@danielhughes3758
3 ай бұрын
Not sure what you mean. You don't lose your ability to do actions if you have that keyword. It's just that you no longer can do actions if you're in engagement range, while the pistol keyword would let you do it before.
@78Showboat
3 ай бұрын
10 man blobs of berserkers.
@browncaramelboba8408
4 ай бұрын
people who manage 10th edition really hate Tyranid faction.
@lightarisen8430
4 ай бұрын
For real though lol
@herrhybris3248
4 ай бұрын
My first thought too.
@Nobleshield
3 ай бұрын
Hoping that the mission deck feels better than leviathan, IMHO leviathan was just godawful and made every game of 40k completely bland. Worst I've seen the game and I started in 1996.
@petermealing6839
4 ай бұрын
1st
@johnb7096
3 ай бұрын
Please stop wearing your branded gym gear, just wear normal clothes. They are so bad 😂😂 wonderful content though!
@Mark.Matthews
3 ай бұрын
It's not gym gear, it's a tracksuit top. I think they are going for the professional e-gamer team colour look. More things in the world to moan about rather than what people wear.
@kingoglow2186
4 ай бұрын
I disagree that combat is more interesting than shooting. melee just bogs down the game
@Bumbaclart247
4 ай бұрын
Nah way more fun - shooting is for nabs and tau
@rosebraidt4894
4 ай бұрын
You must play tau lol
@rosebraidt4894
4 ай бұрын
Melee is super fun and really useful to getting to points or taking them. I always make sure to have a couple just melee units. Lock my opponent down.
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