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@TechedCannon
Жыл бұрын
Genuine question here, not related to FnaF but I might go insane if I don’t get an answer soon… Are you actually sponsored by Morgan & Morgan? Or is it just some kind of inside joke…
@lindarabot426
Жыл бұрын
although monty has anger issues he couldnt have destroyed any animatronics. here are all the reasons why 1 he wasnt strong enough at the time Sure monty is the strongest animatronic but the claw upgrade is what lets him destroy everything. However monty only got the claw upgrade after bonnie was decommissioned so he didn’t have the strength to do so (if anything bonnie could have killed monty due to having claws) 2 He had no issues with the other animatronics during this time Monty is clearly aggressive and loves to take his anger out on stuff. But all of this happened after bonnie disappeard think there was no mention of monty being aggressive before he got the claw upgrade it really makes you wonder why is he so aggressive. 3 It didn’t make sense You know if monty wanted to be the star he could have just gone for freddy but he still wasn’t strong enough at the time to have killed any animatronic. And wouldn’t monty be the main suspect? if he was smart enough to know he’d replace bonnie he wouldn’t have done it in monty golf it would make him look to suspicious. 4 he never wanted to replace bonnie I know what your gonna say. But remember. Monty skips the show’s so he can go to monty golf. Why? Well the reason why monty hates freddy is because he gets all the spotlight but back in monty golf monty had his own stage and got to sing his and perform as a solo.so why would he kill bonnie to be downgraded from lead singer in monty golf to bassist of the atrium. Maybe he gos to monty golf as a coping method I mean roxy uses the mirror to boost her ego. And monty wants to feel more at home in his golf course. but as for the burntrap theory NONE OF BONNIES PARTS ARE IN BURNTRAP! look at burntrap and compare him to the glamrock endo there are 4 toes on burntrap and 3 on glamrocks, the shoulders arnt braud enoguh and please tell matpat this "count the dam fingers on burntraps claws" there are 5 claws on burntrap and 4 on EVERY OTHER GLAMROCK ENDO! even DJ MUSIC MAN! how has no one talked about this! my point is what really happened to bonnie? none of us will know with the info we have i think we will have to wait for the dlc too figure this out
@lindarabot426
Жыл бұрын
SHORTENED VERSION! i think you are spot on with foxy but there is a MASSIVE flaw with the bonnie theory! to start monty couldnt have destroyed bonnie even if he tried because monty didnt have the claw upgrade at the time because he got the claws AFTER bonnie disappeared. if anything bonnie could have destroyed monty if he wanted too but didnt because he is a good bunny. and while i think it could have been more likely for vanny to have used like 20 staff bots to rip apart bonnie and use him for burntrap BUT NONE OF BONNIES PARTS ARE IN BURNTRAP! look at burntrap and compare him to the glamrock endo there are 4 toes on burntrap and 3 on glamrocks, the shoulders arnt braud enoguh and please tell matpat this "count the dam fingers on burntraps claws" there are 5 claws on burntrap and 4 on EVERY OTHER GLAMROCK ENDO! even DJ MUSIC MAN! how has no one talked about this! my point is what really happened to bonnie? none of us will know with the info we have i think we will have to wait for the dlc too figure this out
@ghostyturn4988
Жыл бұрын
4😢 i8m ds tinx😊
@holykebabempire
Жыл бұрын
I swear this is the only fnaf channel that you can watch at 3am without the fear of getting jumpscared
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
I try to make sure I specify when I play a jumpscare if I ever do, and most of the time it's without sound
@luceharrietf
Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast !!! this is so appreciated Rye! I’m currently living on the other side of the country for 3 weeks lol, doing a hospital intensive severe pain management programme. And I love that back in my hotel i can chuck your videos on the giant TV (not used to having that either) and watch when i can’t sleep!!
@RushyoTakha
Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast this earns a sub. I hate jumpscares when I'm trying to chill with theories :)
@TheGrossDemon
Жыл бұрын
One of my least favorite parts of watching FNAF videos is how people love shoving every jump scare and loud sound they can into their videos. So it's always nice to watch a fnaf video that isn't like playing the game lol. Espectually since I'm always looking for videos to watch when I'm falling asleep
@ystacalden
Жыл бұрын
as I an watching at 4:30AM, I am deeply appreciating this currently
@FTZPLTC
Жыл бұрын
It's interesting that the roles of Shadow Freddy and Shadow Bonnie kind of match the desires of Henry (protector) and William (aggressor).
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
This dynamic shows up a lot in FNAF to be honest
@bathilra5364
Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToastyeah same with thier children both posses and non because even if babys prorgming over power elizibiths soul she did commit murder
@bathilra5364
Жыл бұрын
But why would Henry be a bunny when williams fursona has always been the rabbit
@hanssvacina9323
Жыл бұрын
Or Michael and William, possibly
@alexrivers8163
Жыл бұрын
Wait can you be jump scared while shadow Bonnie is on screen in fnaf 2?
@charscreamAA
Жыл бұрын
So S. Bonnie is actually implied to at least be good because it's stoping you from giving Afton remnant. In AR Afton's hacked the system and is basically making you collect remnant. So at least Bonnie has the intention of getting in Williams way. Considering the fact that people constantly confuse Michael for William I actually think that may be why they go against you they think that Michael is William so they're trying to stop you. I actually think that could be why by FNAF 3 they aren't doing anything negative they've realized you aren't William so don't have any issues with you. Honestly given the fact shadow Freddy is a reskin I wouldn't be shocked if shadow Bonnie is only you Bonnie because withered Bonnie was way too unrecognizable/too withered to be recognizable if it were to look like shadow bonnie Something odd about the security breach cutout is how hidden it is in the game like you have to hunt it out. If I remember correctly it is incredibly hidden off the path and locked behind a gate
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the one I'm thinking about was actually right in the open in Rockstar row, with the other cutouts. The rest of your points are very good
@charscreamAA
Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast i maybe confusing Shadow Bonnies cutout with Nightmarion's cut out on that one
@tangytoucan9832
Жыл бұрын
William afton is a roblox hacker who needs my credit card and social security number.
@alexrivers8163
Жыл бұрын
What if purple guy isn't bad and is actually the good guy but somehow like agony being really good materializes an entity just like agony does for wickedness
@loxfr1751
Жыл бұрын
I don't think they're attacking or doing something negative to Michael cause they only crashes the game
@boston6236
Жыл бұрын
The reason it says he gives cake to one of the children is probably trying to say that each minigame helps another one of the MCI kids move on, eventually they help Evan as hes the last one remaining
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
Yeah just never thought about it that way. I always kind of assumed all the missing children were being each of the different characters we play as, but that also makes a lot of sense
@tomasns6584
Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast i assume that the cahracters we play as are other spirits, that thanks to the puppet were guided to set up happiest day! also, i think that connects back to fnaf world since we are setting up michael finding the hints to help on happiest day in fnaf 3 (in my opinion).
@reneethefox4797
Жыл бұрын
Yep, for each kid you give cake to, another kid shows up wearing a mask in Happiest Day. I kinda interpreted it as the minigames are meant to represent the kids who haunt the toys and the kids who haunt the OGs all coming together. Of course, the lack of toy freddy in the minigames is a hole in the theory that I've never been able to reconcile (It could be related to another theory that Toy Freddy is haunted by one of the kids who killed Evan, but I might be reading too much into it.) Actually, speaking of those minigames and shadow animatronics: Shadow BB, Shadow Puppet, and Shadow Cupcake all appear in those minigames and then never make another appearance in the franchise.
@whitefang1657
Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast Each give cake minigame directly correlates with a child's presence in happiest day. If you do not complete one of the minigames then one of the core four children will not be there for the happiest day and you won't be able to complete it. The first time I completed fnaf 3 I only found 2 of the minigames so there were only two of the core four childen in happiest day.
@nachosp7882
Жыл бұрын
@@reneethefox4797 i ve never seen shadow puppet ,BB and cupcake..... where did they appear
@Marshmo
Жыл бұрын
I always loved the Shadow's designs, as it was a big part of the lore back in the day
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
Me too
@Vinesus
Жыл бұрын
It’s worth noting that Nightmare’s original name (in the game files) is “Shadow Freddy.” Probably doesn’t mean much, but it’s interesting nonetheless.
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
Is it? Interesting
@Wendy_OKoopa
Жыл бұрын
You know, maybe this COULD mean something important. Even if it isn't that's still really interesting.
@MeemahSN
Жыл бұрын
@@brandoncheever1897I’d imagine the names were swapped
@friki1282
Жыл бұрын
I really believe shadow Freddy is Nightmare and both are the child from fnaf 4. Nightmare represents it's death and transformation, I don't have to argue if he died with agony or not, it's pretty obvious. And he knows what his father did as it is implied that he saw Baby kill his sister and that was the reason he was so scared of them.
@Jann75
Жыл бұрын
Granted Golden Freddy's name in the game is "yellow bear"
@jpnagaming7716
Жыл бұрын
I’ve always wondered about those two, finally someone else talks about it
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
I think hyperdroid made a video on it too, I'll have to check that out at some point!
@Memescave.
Жыл бұрын
2:33 in all of the minigames, they werent all giving cake to the crying child, but they were giving to the other muders, so they can gather around together to their happiest day instead of being lost. an example is gabriel, jeremy, susie, etc.
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
Yeah never thought about that before
@Mr_Yeet123
Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast If you enter Happiest Day before giving cake to each children, you can see them slowly gathering. Like if you havent found any kids yet, non of the four will be there, but if you get two, you'll see two kids there, and so on
@the_godbodor7026
Жыл бұрын
I don’t know why, but I’ve always liked the Shadow duo and was kinda sad they were just…there. And then they were gone, only for RXQ to come back for AR which personally, made me quite happy
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
I want more of them
@the_godbodor7026
Жыл бұрын
@RyeToast Doubt it will happen, but I’m hoping maybe in the Ruin dlc
@witherd5733
Жыл бұрын
I always thought Shadow Freddy was used as a lure to lead the animatronics to William. All the normal animatronics weren't programmed to go into the safe room, but Shadow Freddy was, almost as if it was intentional.
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
I thought so too, but the Freddy Files seem to disagree
@PersonianOld
Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast This entire series disagrees with itself sometimes lol
@thecreativeducky5781
Жыл бұрын
@@PersonianOld I also disagree with the series
@tubegerm6732
Жыл бұрын
that is exactly what ffps's insanity ending heavily implies. and i'd take what the games themselves say over a book with canonicity that's iffy at best any day.
@keith5461
Жыл бұрын
@@thecreativeducky5781i also series with the disagree
@authorlacey
Жыл бұрын
I could see Shadow Freddy being the agony of all 5 of the missing children of FNAF 1, while Shadow Bonnie being the agony of all 5 of the missing children of FNAF 2. It would match the models of their respective locations. A classic model and a toy model.
@NingyoTheInkling
Ай бұрын
I have a similar theory, just the other way around, Shadow Bonnie being the Agony of the MCI victims and Shadow Freddy being the agony of the Save Them victims. I know it sounds weird because Shadow Freddy is based on Withered Golden Freddy and Shadow Bonnie is based on Toy Bonnie, but I think that because the suit used by William in the MCI was Spring Bonnie, a rabbit animatronic. In Save Them however, it seems likely that the suit he used was Fredbear, because Spring Bonnie was in the safe room of the old location at the time, and a drawing in the FNaF 2 office show Golden Freddy luring a child.
@oras7745
Жыл бұрын
This is actually a pretty interesting theory and the supporting arguments seem rather strong. The only thing thats bugging me is why Charlie's agony being would take the form of Toy Bonnie (or Bonnie in general) since the Puppet and (Toy) Bonnie don't seem to have any direct connection that would justify that. At least not to my knowledge.
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's where I'm stuck too lol
@HizuiSneazel
Жыл бұрын
Maybe Bonnie was Charlie's favorite animatronic before she was killed?
@Takejiro24
Жыл бұрын
@@HizuiSneazel I just looked up an image of Charlie taken from the Freddy Files and it's one of her carrying a toy of Bonnie.
@oras7745
Жыл бұрын
@@HizuiSneazel You know, that could very well be, especially given what EphemeralSean said.
@lunabruce1804
Жыл бұрын
@@Takejiro24 If you're talking about the section about the novels, the toy she's holding is Theodore! It's a toy her dad made her when she was little that plays a recording of Henry saying "I love you Charlie". Her other toys was a doll named Ella, and a unicorn named Stanley, who also have art of them in the book!
@Softie.uwu13
Жыл бұрын
His sponsor segments having lore is probably one of the greatest things ever 😭😭😭
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you like it! Gotta keep em interesting after all
@anthonyramirez7586
Жыл бұрын
Dude it’s an ARG that’s dope
@kindachaos9775
Жыл бұрын
i always thought the purple freddy in the fnaf 3 minigames was just purple guy with a freddy head on. It makes sense that's how he'd lure them, instead of somehow recruiting some kind of supernatural shadow entity to lure the animatronics to him.
@nicouwu4416
Жыл бұрын
I've been recently intrigued by the scrap baby dialod during the true ending of ffps "A gift for us" "all those little souls in one place" it kinda sounds like the happiest day doesn't it? Gifts? Souls in the same place? It couldn't be anything else. and then there's her wanting to make william proud. For me it sounds like it's her condition of setting Elizabeth's soul free, her last wish, just like the last wish of the victims was to have a birthday party
@GhostRose6500
Жыл бұрын
I always believed the Shadow creatures were the employees that made a mistake when taking off the suits and got spring locked at the diner. Because it could answer a question people have been asking for a long time: why is the crying child afraid of the animatronics? He could have witnessed this incident, more specifically the Fredbear one since he is more afraid of that animatronic than the others, and the Shadow Bonnie one may have already happened or it happened later on, though the Crying Child just wasn’t around to see it. It would also explain Nightmare himself, in the game files of Fnaf 2 Shadow Freddy is called Nightmare, and in Fnaf 4 files Nightmare is Shadow Freddy. Basically making Nightmare: Nightmare Shadow Freddy.
@Raiethstar
Жыл бұрын
Shit, that’s really good. I never thought about the workers getting hurt would be what he saw.
@kingnathannn207
Жыл бұрын
this is also what I choose to believe bc he was hella scared about it for no reason like way more than ur average kid and I also believe fnaf 4 was what he was seeing while in a coma until he passsed away in the hospital which was nightmare freddy represented
@aplelli
Жыл бұрын
Ehh, I never liked that. It seemed a bit too basic, and if Shadow Bonnie is a Spring Bonnie springlock victim, then how come it looks like Toy Bonnie with different teeth and nothing like Spring Bonnie? It's funny, but I think I actually prefer shadow remnant as an explanation for the Shadows than the earlier, simpler stuff.
@GhostRose6500
Жыл бұрын
Well agony can change form, so maybe he changed to Fnaf 2 Bonnie to be more recognisable and friendlier to the toys. Shadow Freddy may have done the same to the withereds.
@Tape231
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been saying this shit for ages. I think it helps explain a lot of the early shit, especially the crying child part
@Fusednebula
Жыл бұрын
this falls in line with a theory ive been working on about the phantoms. I personally think that when dark remnant is left over it melds into nonphysical forms. Hence in fnaf 3 the player is surrounded by fnaf memorabilia and animatronic parts along with the body of a horrid murderer. The phantoms can only interact by shutting down systems and are covered in dark markings along with the green moldy substance. The shadow animatronics are concentrated combinations of dark remnant, one (shadow freddy) is composed mostly of agony taking the form of golden freddy as they are cassidy's the burning desire to hurt william. this would make sense why it disappears in the later games as shadow freddy reaches its goal, kill william(though he lives lmao). Shadow bonnie is less "together" it has the intentions of charlotte, wanting to help but its goal its too general it does what it can, it continues to linger because it cant reach its goal of "help". The phantoms are minor concentrated forms of dark remnant, they are the leftover rage and unsettled grievances of the children. They are gone afterwards as the children are freed(or at least happy)
@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439
Жыл бұрын
I think one of the Fazbear Fright books confirmed that, Phantom Animatronics are related to Springtrap, since when main character touches William's flesh inside of the springlock suit, they start to experience hallucinations of Phantom Animatronics along with multiple Springtrap appear (just like how when Ventilation gives error, you start to see Springtrap on every camera) and then he meets his demise.
@Fusednebula
Жыл бұрын
@@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 oh! i didnt know that the books explained that lol, i guess that makes sense, especially when you think that fnaf 3 protagonist was likely micheal
@sariaswoods
Жыл бұрын
I really like this theory! It makes a lot of narrative sense, the only real “problem” I have is why Charlie would be represented by Bonnie when she has always been represented by the Marionette in past incarnations. (Cassidy possesses a variant of Freddy so her appearing as Freddy makes sense to me)
@FTZPLTC
Жыл бұрын
Mark's mission is to ensure that there will be no seamless edits.
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
He'll never let me have it
@tris2694
Жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching your channel non stop for a few weeks now. Seeing you with your cats makes my day! Keep up the phenomenal content:)
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I'm glad!!
@the_godbodor7026
Жыл бұрын
I honestly love this theory. It gives a solid reason for the Shadows to exist, it makes their actions seem less random, and tbh it’s kinda cool looking at FNaF World movesets to get an idea on personalities.
@yogurtofthemultiverse2200
Жыл бұрын
I assumed the multiple simultaneous spring lock failures bit was talking about the facial ones that are so sensitive that we have to manually reset them every few seconds in the sister location one-- but in the original Freddy model. All of those lower ones would have went off because the kid was crying into freddy's mouth, snapping the jaw shut due to all the spring locks trying to bring the jaw piece up at once.
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
That's possible
@pdd5793
Жыл бұрын
so you consider spring lock as one part of the suit and the multiple sprig lock failures was that a lot of them failing during the crying child death? seems logical but a bit off for some reason
@yogurtofthemultiverse2200
Жыл бұрын
@@pdd5793 it was just how the phone guy said it at the time-- multiple and simultaneous spring lock failures. It made me think he meant a single event. I could be wrong, but that was how I thought of it at first.
@Raiethstar
Жыл бұрын
I always assumed that a worker was killed/maimed by the suits. It really was inevitable after all. When I heard the phone guy the first time my first thought was ‘oh damn both suits at the same time?’ To me there was no doubt that a worker was hurt, those suits are a wcb claim waiting to happing.
@madshamilton7693
Жыл бұрын
i agree with OP, to me that moment seemed to be talking about the multiple locks in the jaw that would still be functioning in animatronic mode failing and snapping down as the child cries, i also thought what rye refers to as “spring-lock mode” was referred to as free-roaming in the game but i may be misremembering
@SigilOfBaphomet
Жыл бұрын
The theory of Shadows being dead springlock victims actually holds up. First of all, SF and RWQ helping the other souls achieve piece makes a lot of sense, after all they used to be workers of Fredbear's Family Diner (a restaurant obviously focused on entertaining children), so logically they would be the type of guys to always try and make children happy. Besides, William did not become springtrap after he died, because he never died at all. William is immortal because of Cassidy not allowing him to die for the sake of making him suffer, that fits perfectly with the springlock suit. If you get springlocked while being physically unable to die you are condemned to be stuck with the agonizing pain. And since William did not die, it's safe to say that dying as a springlock victim equals becoming a Shadow because of the sheer amount of agony/dark remnant.
@iloveh2oshow1
Жыл бұрын
I just LOVE your videos! Thanks for your research and depth you bring to your theories! Also always a pleasure to see your sweet kitties 😍😍
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@Chorutowo
Жыл бұрын
Man that cat is the most patient thing in the world, I wish mine was that calm
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
Every cat's different!
@Chorutowo
Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast true
@Smugtortise123
Жыл бұрын
Good vid, I would like to say that Nightmare is Williams wickedness altogether, it's mentioned in one of Nightmares jump scares in UCN
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
It's possible
@TheNoiseOutside
Жыл бұрын
shadow bonnie being in ucn confirms that the vengeful child knows it's existence
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
That's true, but tbf they should know about both from happiest day and follow me
@MultiKl
Жыл бұрын
I like the theory that the purple glitch bunny is glitchtrap and the minigame is where the glitchtrap virus survived
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
That's not a bad theory, I don't personally believe it though
@MShadowG.
Жыл бұрын
As a shadow freddy fan i really appreciate this video This 2 really confused me in fnaf 2 and 3 and that's why they both are my favourites. But i still think that SF got the short end of the stick bc they didn't get anything like SB got im Special Delivery Edit: also i'm really invested in the RyeToast lore
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad! And honestly it's weird how shadow Freddy just disappeared off the face of the earth
@MShadowG.
Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToastMaybe there is a lore reason for it. Like when Cassidy connect herself with willian Shadow Freddy just poofed out of existence but still there to see willian and cassidy in fnaf 3? Don't know but it would be cool
@capnMAN
Жыл бұрын
Come on man! We obviously know they were old FredBear's family diner workers! We even know their names Harold the janitor & Trevor the cashier! And Trevor obviously likes conga lines! FNAF 3 mini games solved!
@berniebare371
Жыл бұрын
bro what
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
🤦 I can't believe I forgot about Harold the janitor
@capnMAN
Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast Yes it is quite undeniably canon!
@Revanaught
Жыл бұрын
Compelling theory. My main question is why would Charlie's agony take the form of bonny, though? Cassidy as Freddy makes sense given all other theories. She was stuffed into and possees golden Freddy, so her agony is a shadow Freddy, but I don't understand why Charlie would make a bonny. Nightmarione, yes, but shadow bonny...idk.
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's kind of my sticking point, maybe it's meant to be recognizable to the spirits because they all seem to recognize Bonnie specifically because of what William did, but I'm not sure
@jjh.5515
Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast I assumed you meant she was taking after the form of golden Bonnie. It makes slightly more sense that since those were the first two animatronics and that’s what William was using to kill kids. And since it’s made of agony, it would take the form of the thing it hates most?
@Revanaught
Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast I kind of considered that, but I'm unsure. I guess it depends on how sentient we think these are and how much they shape shift. If the agony formed at the time of Charlie's death, it shouldn't have taken the form of Bonnie since William, by most timelines, wasn't using the suit to murder kids yet. So we'd have go assume that it's consciously deciding to take the form of Afton after it's creation to be recognizable for the spirits. It's a lot of assuming and stretching which leaves me uneasy with it as a theory.
@bluecat8398
6 ай бұрын
I think Charlie is using the image of the thing William loves the most and tormenting him with it.
@LukeAmbroseYT
Жыл бұрын
These theories get really interesting. It would be fun to see a theory in Henry since Hes a pretty underrated character.
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
The only issue is the lack of info we have on him
@LukeAmbroseYT
Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast That is true, but I'm sure when the FNAF movie comes out a lot more about him will be revealed. (assuming the movie will stick with the game timeline and chronologically order.
@michaelraymon111
Жыл бұрын
@@LukeAmbroseYT lmao the movie will not stick the gametimiline. Dozens of books but you think one movie is gonna provide more info now lol.
@LukeAmbroseYT
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelraymon111 lmao obviously not everything in one movie will be revealed. It’s also very obvious they are gonna use the books as well. I’m saying the movie will fill in plot hole. Get that through your thick skull
@michaelraymon111
Жыл бұрын
@@LukeAmbroseYT lmao it will fill zero plot holes. Over 10 books what more do you think thr movie will offer lol.
@TriforceRaiden
Жыл бұрын
This is really interesting, but my biggest question is, why shadow BONNIE, if it's supposed to be Charlie? Cassidy being both Golden Freddy and Shadow Freddy makes enough sense, but why are the Puppet and Shadow Bonnie connected? Oddly enough, the Puppet also has a lot of correlation with Shadow Freddy, with Nightmare and Lefty (both dark bears) being directly linked with Nightmarionne and the Puppet, something to think about
@speedslider3913
Жыл бұрын
(SPOILERS) It would actually make a ton of sense if Cassidy/Cassidy's agony is Shadow Freddy, as just like how she forces the other souls to torture William despite their wishes and refuses to let him go to everyone's detriment, Shadow Freddy in FNaF 3 puts the other animatronics/souls in danger and directly leads them to their dismantling for no good reason other than her own unknown benefit or to get the other souls to help her trap William.
@mawinstallation6626
Жыл бұрын
I liked the interpretation of Shadow Freddy seen in a fangame called Fazscares, which is a FNAF 3 Reboot. It implied that Shadow Freddy was actually a lure created by Afton whereas Shadow Bonnie was actually a paranormal entity
@dgsf9444
Жыл бұрын
2:32 Yes, these are different children and each of them will appear in the Happiest Day after each minigame if you click on the Puppet drawing
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
That makes sense, I never thought about it
@charliekahn4205
Жыл бұрын
Considering how much they look, in silhouette, like certain other, yellow-hued characters, maybe they're just supposed to be Golden Freddy and Golden Bonnie but obscured. It's a known fact of the series that when on camera or in the background, the characters are affected by the lighting, but when jumpscaring, they are not. Shadow Freddy and Bonnie both only appear in the background, and have no jumpscare. Shadow Freddy also looks just like a darkened Golden Freddy, in a room with no lights. Shadow Bonnie was also created before FNaF 3's designs were finalized, but while FNaF 3's story was already envisioned. That means that Shadow Bonnie is probably Golden Bonnie in bot mode, acting as a teaser for FNaF 3.
@kayden-blodgett9032
Жыл бұрын
I was literally randomly thinking about these guys at work today😂I thought to myself “if I could ask scott any question and get an honest answer, what would it be?” And what these guys are/what they represent was up there. Keep up the great work rye😌
@mammamiawhygod2091
Жыл бұрын
It was probably said before but Shadow Freddy being grey in Pizzeria Simulator isn't prof that it isn't him, lore implications of those mini games aside, Shadow Bonnie was purple in Fnaf 3's minigame so ironically that would mean they swap colors lol.
@pedrofromrio645
Жыл бұрын
7:46 I think the detail in Fnaf world is consisted with Fnaf 3. Shadow Freddy wants vengeance for the kids, while Shadow Bonnie wants to set the souls free.
@stickman207
Жыл бұрын
Its also worth metioning that Shadow Bonnie is one of 2 characters to know haunting, alongside Golden Freddy wether or not this means anything I have no idea
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
Interesting. That could be important
@sev1120
Жыл бұрын
Personally, my theory is that, since Agony is kind of a mirror of remnant, beings formed from agony would be mirrors of their remnant selves. So whilst Charlie as the puppet is focused on trying to help those who were killed, shadow freddy would be focused on making sure that it never happens again, by stopping it at its source. Meanwhile Cassidy is almost hellbent (pun intended) on punishing William Afton, referring to themselves as "the ONE you should not have killed", consumed by hatred and vengeance. The mirror would seek to try to minimise the damage, hence why in fnaf world rwqfsfasxc's abilities are all supportive in nature, and why it helps the children in the happiest day minigames.
@TheEverythingEnthuiast
Жыл бұрын
6:15 RyeToast: Into The Ryeverse
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
The ryetoat lore begins
@xxautisticmonkeyxx385
Жыл бұрын
fnaf world Shadow Bonnie loading screen is a breaking bad reference we all missed
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
True
@Vongolasoul
Жыл бұрын
You said Charlie was arguably the first victim but doesn't chick say she was the first and she has seen everything? I think she was Def the first
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
It's hard to tell. Because FNAF 6, Henry says a wound first inflicted on me. I would argue that chica is saying she was the first of the missing child incident
@Vongolasoul
Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast if he says a wound first inflicted on me, I feel like he's technically only talking about the first time afton wronged him but I see what you mean
@titan7789
Жыл бұрын
Didn't watch the video yet,but I'm guessing that Shadow Freddy is the bad guy(Fnaf world:"I'll eat your soul."),while Shadow Bonnie is probably the good guy,because he protects the Remnant or smth.
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
Not quite but close
@titan7789
Жыл бұрын
No way, the Cassidy and Charlie's parallels are genius, ngl. And this would explain why only TWO children's agonies formed animatronics. They both are the most "aware" of the animatronics. The Puppet,who got possessed by Charlie,that broke down so it isn't in the animtronic mode(A.I wouldn't interfere) and Golden Freddy,that wasn't in animatronic mode,because it was put in the suit mode(and once again A.I wouldn't interfere)
@titan7789
Жыл бұрын
Which is why you give cake to the children as Shadow Bonnie. The children are basically stuck in their good(?)memories,so you gather them to The Happiest Day to finally let them rest.
@mizukirin13
Жыл бұрын
I swear Scott named Shadow Bonnie(RWQFSFSXC) by slamming his head into the keyboard
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
Notably, I'm pretty sure it's all on the left side of the keyboard too, which has led to people assuming he held shift down with his right hand and spammed buttons with his left
@mizukirin13
Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast That’s really interesting
@jygein4663
Жыл бұрын
There was another theory video i watch recently which shows the opposite that shadow freddy nightmare and shadow bonnie are forms of nightmarione while this shows the reverse which are both cool!
@jujuoof174
Жыл бұрын
Very intertaining and well-made, as always!
@gdeveloper3309
Жыл бұрын
i think them being born of william's wickedness made in flesh is still a pretty good theory. The theory that the shadow's are born of william's wickedness isn't that they're generated from william's agony being springlocked, but rather by the memory of how william killed the kids and the agony it caused. As well, if any kids died due to william and their agony generated the shadows, it would technically be william's wickedness(actions) forming flesh(in some sort of shadow form). Behavioral similarities: Shadow freddy tries to lead kids into the backroom where purple guy is where they get destroyed, like how purple guy lured kids to get them killed. Henry also references this his insanity ending speech "He lured them all back. Back to a familiar place. Back with familiar tricks. He brought them all together. Are they still...aware? I hope not. It keeps me awake at night. I could make myself...sleep. But not yet.", "He overpowered them again. And he robbed them of the only thing that they had. Again. I don't know how those tiny breaths of life came to inhabit those machines." The kids got lured and overpowered again by william. The only second time this happened to the same set of kids was in follow me, where shadow freddy lured kids to be dismantled by william, the famillar tricks being "luring" that shadow freddy copied over from william's original killing, as he's probably william's wickedness made of flesh. Shadow freddy also says "follow me" in follow me, and in fnaf 6 at the end of susie's fruity maze minigame, william dressed in springbonnie lures a kid asking them to "follow me". Locational similarities: Shadow freddy is seen walking to the safe room, in the fnaf 3 office, in mike's house, fnaf 2 backroom. These locations could be places william has been to. Shadow freddy luring the kids to the safe room has been done by william, and in fnaf 2 william uses one of the spare yellow suits in the back. In fnaf 3, instead of shadow freddy making his way to where william is, william is instead making his way to where shadow freddy is in your office. In fnaf 4 shadow freddy takes the form of nightmare which he attacks mike in presumably his dreams as the form of a child as in mike's perspective he's only doorknob height(attacks kids just like william). Shadow bonnie has his own minigame, is spotted in the fnaf 2 and ucn offices. Shadow bonnie spawns out of the spring bonnie suit, which william may be in(as well something important to note is in the actual stage 01 minigame a green shirt kid goes missing). In fnaf 2 and ucn, but as well those are locations william has got a security job at. (this is a stretch but it kind of matches the Into the pit description of spring bonnie, as a figure standing in the corner with a bowtie grinning, which coincidentally just happens to be another agony creature formed by william's wickedness) (another stretch/coincidence is if willplush is correct, then shadow bonnie teleporting around could be him copying fredbear plush seemingly teleporting around.) These behaviors also match the fnaf world behaviors pretty well. Shadow freddy is offensive and murders kids, while shadow bonnie is more defensive and like a security guard. Why would they follow the kids? or be present around them? Since its the kid's agony that are generating the shadows, caused by william's wickedness, they are present near the kids. Why does shadow bonnie give cake? William, as shown in fnaf vr's ending, lures kids at the back with birthday cake at the end. William giving a kid cake in the form of shadow bonnie could make sense in that regard. If the puppet were to be one of the shadow animatronics though, id say they'd be shadow freddy. Lefty looks like shadow freddy and contains the puppet inside of it. Nightmarione replaces nightmare aka shadow freddy in the non cannon halloween dlc, and the puppet asks freddy to follow her in save them just like shadow freddy asked of the other animatronics. Lastly if they're evil or not, id say they're neutral and just replayed shadows of the past. Shadow bonnie's actions could be perceived as good, and shadow freddy could be thought of as freeing the kids instead of helping lure and dismantle them, but overall with their connections to william that they might be on his side.
@lpfan4491
Жыл бұрын
I personally always interpreted Shadow Bonnie as a coinflip of the idea. It physically exists as an imprint of William's wickedness, but it's behavior and motivation is closer to what the character of Springbonnie would logically be like. It takes the form of a cuter bonnie not to trick people into trust, but rather because that is what a character designed to be around kids would want to be. However, due to its nature and its recent creation, it becomes aggressive in Fnaf 2 as soon as it confirms that the player character can actually see it. In FNaF3, it became more passive because it is a part of the whole theme of being abandoned for decades and being tired of it all. Afterwords, it vanishes until UCN because it gets to rest with the spirits until called back for that whole thing...and even then, I see it only darkening the room despite the context as it having become much less dangerous since no longer being negatively bound.
@childishsloth4164
Жыл бұрын
What if the shadow animatronics are like nightmarionne, where they’re just the dark reflections of the spirits in Freddy and Bonnie
@ExtravagantEthan
Жыл бұрын
Ditch the cat, they remind me of everything malicious and wrong
@lovelyghosts
Жыл бұрын
I've always gone with a theory similar to this, you really helped to make it a stronger one. The only difference between what I've thought is that shadow Bonnie is Sammy. I don't really have any evidence besides Theodore from the novels, so maybe if Sammy exists in the games he'd possesses some kind of Bonnie. I just think it would be a bit strange for Charlie to have toy Bonnie for her agony instead of the puppet, but I guess Theodore could explain that too. Idk lol
@lachlanmcdougall5326
Жыл бұрын
I've always been looking for an explanation as to why cassidy is the vengeful spirit in particular, and with this explanation you can atleast see they were an important figure throughout the series to merit their significance
@graceinnocent6220
Жыл бұрын
I love seeing such a snuggly and contented cat
@wearegogeta9974
Жыл бұрын
The way I think of this is different. Remnant and dark remnant are two sides of the same coin. When someone dies tragically and agonizingly, both types of remnant are released. I think shadow Freddy and shadow Bonnie have some interesting connections in regards to who they might’ve come from….. with shadow Freddy, it might be the agony left behind by the spirit never being able to move on, Cassidy. As for shadow Bonnie…. Okay hear me out…. There could be a very disturbing connection between shadow Bonnie and William afton. The way remnant could work in this very special case is afton’s normal remnant is actual evil and malice which would later spawn the glitchtrap. As for the dark remnant….. if it’s agony like you say, what if it’s afton’s agony from not only having died a horrendously painful and agonizing death, but having to bear the agony of the loss of two of his children, and the endless agony of torment from the other spirits constantly haunting him. I also wonder if the reason we still see hints of the dark bunny could be in relation to Cassidy endlessly torturing him in the events of ultimate custom night. This dark remnant could be regret and an urge to rectify mistakes.
@cosmicdahlia
Жыл бұрын
I prefer AstralSpiff's nickname for Shadow Bonnie, "xQc"
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
🤣
@theftking
Жыл бұрын
_"The shadow animatronics are EVIL!"_ From _my_ point of view, _the night guards_ are evil!
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
The real evil animatronics are the friends we made along the way
@DJBurns-jq8mn
Жыл бұрын
*PLZ READ, I HAVE SO MUCH THOUGHT AND EFFORT INTO THIS THEORY* I believe in Elizabeth dieing being the reason William does at least some of what he does. It makes some sense in my opinion for 7 main reasons: 1. Who else would William be talking to in the beginning of Sister Location about showing his own creation. 2. It does line up with the sister being absent in FNAF 4 and why William has an entire bunker made under his house where he spy's and haunts his youngest child and lets Michael torment CC so to make sure that he stays away from the Pizzeria. There's no reason that the bite of 83 and Elizabeth's "death" can't happen around the same time as each other plus Henry was the original creator of the franchise and William is just a business partner who has to have experience in the first place to even become a partner. 3. It just makes sense as a story telling stand point, Scott said himself that FNAF 4 was supposed to be the end of the franchise and he told the story he originally wanted to tell. FNAF 4 left some things up in the air that we couldn't fully understand so Sister Location exists only because Scott wanted to expand the lore and what better way to do so then to further explain what the story he's telling us while also adapting it into a new story that follows the first 4 games. 4. Freddy Fazbear's Pizza opens as a Sister location to Fredbears Family Diner as said in the calls we get from Phone guy, implying they exist around the same time which makes sense as William would still need access to the Spring Bonnie suit he uses to kill the 5 kids and can still kill Henry's daughter as we know that she wasn't the first child William himself killed as it's confirmed that Chica was the first. 5. The Funtimes can't have been made for the primary reason to lure and capture kids since there was the bite of 83, multiple murders and restaurants being closed and the original Freddy, Bonnie, Chica and Foxy containing the bodies of said murder victims. There would have been so many red flags if versions of those characters were indeed capturing kids the moment they were brought out to perform for birthday parties after all that stuff. 6. Scott knows that even with all the magic and chaos in this franchise, there still has to be some realism and possibility for this stuff to happen otherwise the story wouldn't be fascinating and create a whole community that now we all both love and hate at the same time. 7. Elizabeth dieing can be the reason why the Security Puppet exists. Henry (who could be the voice we hear William talking to about Baby) heard what a creation of William's did to his daughter and wanted to have a precaution as he doesn't want his own daughter or anyone else suffering the same fate. Here's some points to help support the stuff I went over. Obviously Freddy's doesn't close straight away because there would have to be the odors from the decay of the bodies or the children. So it must at least lead onto Michael going into the bunker. And the Funtimes themselves had to have been made after the incident since they would have been looked at and kept away from the children if they were made at the same time, but how do we know that Baby or even Ballora are officially Funtime animatronics? The name would have had to have been given primarily for the different versions of the original characters and she is only ever been referred to as "Circus Baby". Also Baby herself was trying to gain our trust and use us, so she could of stretched her story for us, like i said in my earlier replies the Minigame and her story don't match up, so can her words be taken as 100% fact and why would she even tell us the story since Michael said "they thought I was you"? And finally how in fact could the funtimes be used for being rented for parties right after all the locations were shut down, there would have to be time for William's to handle all the legal issues and being a suspect to the murders, then when he gets off free he realizes that the animatronics are acting weird and Baby's eyes changed and then conduct his research and experiments to find out about remnant and how the souls work inside of the animatronics. These are just concerns that I have with the timeline, but I can happily accept myself being wrong as all I really want is to contribute what little I can do for a community that personally helped me and got me fascinated as a kid. Elizabeth dieing can make sense as the motivation for William killing the first group of kids and when he was gone doing it his youngest child to be forced in the Fredbear suits mouth putting him in a coma, since William at this point would be working at Fredbear's Diner so he would be there either watching on the plush cameras or actually in the Location while it's happening. Among some of the other stuff I left out, this can make some sense in the long run. It definitely doesn't fit 100% and I completely respect your opinion, but nothing fits 100% in this franchise at this point apart from that it's so confusing and frustrating to figure out at times.
@DJBurns-jq8mn
Жыл бұрын
William was jealous of Henry for him getting so much credit just because he made the animatronics. He tried putting Baby into Fredbear's Family Diner (the cutscene at the beginning of Sister Location) but fails due to Elizabeth accidently kills Elizabeth (Fyi, Henry calls Baby Elizabeth meaning he knows all about what happened to her). This results in the death of 5 kids in the Sister Location (Freddy Fazbear's Pizza as we know it opens around the time of Fredbear's) and with William not watching his kids, CC dies and in a fit of rage and blaming Henry for all this he kills Henry's daughter and then blames the murders on him. The rest is self explanatory.
@akronixileo4459
Жыл бұрын
Shadow Bonnie and Freddy are the reoresentstions of the agony - remnant.
@SodaColada
Жыл бұрын
This brings up an interesting detail; because they're shown in the 8-bit minigames helping the kids, yet don't have an actual jumpscare and don't have any physicality in lore, are their appearances within the games an event or an actual glitch inside of a game that Fazbear Entertainment made ? Ofc I'm implying that the "first four games are just in lore games made by a rogue indie dev" is true, imo anyways, since the two shadows both crash the game, not jumpscare attack. I think the minigames are credible in that maybe the shadows are trying to show what really happened to the public, if they (the shadows) didn't just make the minigames altogether. It's worth pointing out that UCN has the exact same format as the core FNAF games (similar in appearance and similar gameplay), that is to say we know that UCN is not a real establishment or event in lore and it's made clear with the given evidence. Using that same notion (while it is somewhat of a stretch yes), we can use those pointers to also claim the core FNAF games as such, and then using the rogue indie dev quote to back it up as videogames in lore. I know it's kind of redundant, but it's an interesting little tidbit that supports the Game Theory's game theory.
@minimuu3453
Жыл бұрын
the springtrap suit also has the toy bonnie type sectioned ears
@tinaherr3856
Жыл бұрын
12:50 to be fair, they are not spirits, but Agony beings. Anything we know or speculate about how ghosts work would probably not apply to them. Heck, you even point this fact out, by stating that they aren't possessing animitronics. Also at 14:57, Agony is basically human suffering manifesting. And getting springlocked would be *very* painful, and you wouldn't die immediately, even if you weren't Afton.
@morganmeza
Жыл бұрын
I think shadow Bonnie and shadow Freddy are the one suits that were in FNAF 4 mini games when William is helping put on the Bonnie suit and the other guy in the fredbear suit
@boringpileofbones
Жыл бұрын
the similar "oh cool recolor of freddy from fnaf 1" and the Gold & Purple colors of shadow and golden freddy might be important, another counterpart scenario.
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
Maybe 😉
@RoyalMudcrab
Жыл бұрын
Cassidy in Freddy makes absolute sense. But why Bonnie for Charlie? I mean, it fits. It's just messy as many things FNAF are.
@KK-hd1jw
Жыл бұрын
I think even the designs lean towards the idea. Shadow Freddy is practically a recolor of golden freddy, the suit Cassidy possesses, and is in the iconic slumped over position g fred takes through the whole series. Shadow Bonnie, meanwhile, is now often seen floating, seemingly weightless. The puppet is often seen/interpreted to “levitate” (whether that be part of the possessed thing or the marionette thing) and shadow Bonnie is all black with stark white features, kind of like how the puppet is mainly black, but with a white mask and stripes on the arms
@frozi1541
Жыл бұрын
So a key point i feel we have been ignoring for years is simply how much "shadow" are they ? You see, Shadow freddy is 3D model and in Fnaf world he is simply darker purple freddy. But Shadow bonnie is from the get go a shadow. you cant even see his suit curves. and in fnaf world unlke shadow freddy he is shadow. in fanf 3 there are TWO shadow bonnies with different models. thats right. in the fnaf 3 follow me minigame there is a hint in the hall for each step you need to do for thew easter egg. you can see there shadow bonnie with a different model than the one you play later. what i think REALLY is happening and its might be a 200IQ move of scott since 2014. all the games we play are canon to be games. Shadow Bonnie and freddy are actual remnants fused into the games to affect the user.
@berniebare371
Жыл бұрын
Ah, nice to see you went with the Shadow Freddy thumbnail lol
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
Lol yeah. The colors just look better on it
@berniebare371
Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast agreed
@gargoylegray7725
Жыл бұрын
If it weren't for the fact that shadow bonnie appears before the bite of '87, I'd say that they both represent the two bite victims/their agony/grief. In fnaf 3 minigame, shadow bonnie can teleport to other games played on previous nights. This could also imply time travel, so maybe thats an excuse. But its also heavily evidenced that either toy chica or mangle caused the bite, the only reason i would even think of toy bonnie as a suspect is that he is the most aggressive from the start of the game, has the most unique images in game including his creepy eyeless secret screen, his camera poses staring at the camera up close and when hes in your office. This is all a stretch and I dont really think its true but maybe its some food for thought.
@ark_awaits3367
Жыл бұрын
I mean they could time travel. This is kinda forgotten but it's seen in the FNAF3 mini games
@blasterbom7651
Жыл бұрын
It sounds to me like the two are the employee springlock failures. Perhaps they caught onto Afton at some point so he triggered their suits to kill them. We may even have seen this event in the bite vid, in the background you see purple guy putting the head on a freddy suit. Two workers who couldn't stop this evil in life plus horrible death equals lots of agony. In death freddy is more aggro against Aftons. Bonnie makes sense, helpful, brings cake, aggressively stop someone from harvesting remnant.
@ctorres236
Жыл бұрын
Your cat makes me very happy
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
Me too
@dustthewolf7841
Жыл бұрын
Have you seen the video on the extra child by under_score? I think it might be helpful to the over all timeline as it synergizes with your ideas in a lot of ways
@jurbagarga1410
Жыл бұрын
That sponsor sounded like fnaf 6
@markus1309
Жыл бұрын
I always get a Better Call Saul flashback whenever you do a morgan and morgan sponsor
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
Lol fair
@Zinkquer
Жыл бұрын
all this lore for a silly little bear game
@aidanfisher97
10 ай бұрын
Wait a minute. If Shadow Bonnie represented Charlotte's agony, wouldn't he dissipate once Charlie is put to rest at the end of Pizzeria Simulator or would he still be there? I kind of imagine he'd still be there because of FNAF AR...?
@allyw4168
Жыл бұрын
the lore of the backroom sponsors is getting intense
@sydneycherise7468
Жыл бұрын
I always thought that they were unwanted orphans or something that were kidnapped off the street and that's why they aren't addressed in tapes, phone calls, or newspapers. It makes a little sense to me at least.
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
That's possible but really speculative
@sydneycherise7468
Жыл бұрын
@@RyeToast agreed. But with all theories, as well as real life cases of child kidnappings and murder, most people are left to speculate if cases go cold. I spend a lot of time watching unsolved case videos so I'm always looking at it from that sort of perspective. 🙂
@joshuagovinden9109
Жыл бұрын
Hey later this year can you talk about the The ruin DLC for Security breach and I'm sorry I can't buy a apron
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
No need to apologize, that's totally fine! And I have in a couple videos, but next week short will be about the circus animatronics if that's what you mean
@derekmartin5340
Жыл бұрын
Here's what my take was on the shadows had been for a little while, so I'm interested in what you'd think of it. In The Survival Logbook, there's a part where it gives you a story prompt with blank space for you to finish the story. The given prompt is as follows: "I'd only been on night shift for about a week, but I was so relieved to be switched over to the day shift. There's a lot of stress working 12 a.m-6 a.m. My boss told me that the animatronics were acting strangely-- almost aggressive toward the staff-- but I wasn't about to let that scare me off. After work, I had an unsettling feeling that I was being followed home..." This is obviously a reference to Jeremy Fitzgerald from FNAF2, as he describes what Phone Guy (his boss) says before moving him to the dayshift. I believe the thing that followed him home was one of the shadows, I'm not sure which one, but I like the idea of it being Shadow Bonnie, since Jeremy shares his name with the kid who possesses Bonnie; but I digress. Why is this important to call out? Well, I believe the reason this was included in the logbook of all things is because by time Mike has the logbook, the same thing most likely happens to Michael, resulting in the nightmares that make up FNAF4. In FNAF2, cutscenes play between each night, all of them labeled "Dreams" in the files. These would be Jeremy's nightmares, in the same manner as Mike's (and probably William's in UCN too) Have you ever found 'Nightmare' from FNAF4 odd? I mean, he's literally the final boss of the game, and his name is just "Nightmare". He resembles Shadow Freddy, but his name is just Nightmare, not Nightmare Shadow Freddy or anything like that. Why? Well, because like I said, I believe Shadow Freddy is *why* Michael is having the Nightmares. When did Shadow Freddy begin following Michael? Well, I believe this happened after FNAF3's fire, perhaps because Mike bought something from the auction after the fire that Shadow Freddy was attached to, maybe the logbook itself, or simply because he worked there. Aside from FNAF2, which would be before Mike's nightmares, thats the only time I can think of where they'd be in the same place. FNAF3's Night 6 is called "NIGHTMARE MODE" after all... I do believe the shadows are malevolent, I'm not entirely sure why the Freddy Files says otherwise. Sure, we play as RXQ to give cake to a child, but so does Mangle, BB, Toy Chica, and Fredbear; obviously none of those guys were real. I don't really see why RXQ would be real here. For Shadow Freddy meanwhile, well, FFPS actually gives a ton of evidence towards that not being the case despite him never physically appearing. In "Fruity Maze", William's last line is "Follow Me", a direct callback to what Shadow Freddy says in the minigame of the same name. In fact, think about what Shadow Freddy is actually doing... he's luring the children to the saferoom to be destroyed. The whole minigame was symbolic, Shadow Freddy doing what Afton did when he killed the kids. The reason Scott would've brought this up in FFPS is because its relevant to what Henry describes in the Insanity Ending: "He set some kind of trap. I don't know what it was, but he led them there, again. He overpowered them, again. And he robbed them of the only thing that they had, again" Shadow Freddy *was* a trap, setup by William somehow. Although TFF describes this as good, Henry describes this as a horrid event, an event leading Henry to believe "they will never find rest now, not like this", that is of course, unless he "calls them all back, all of them. Together in one place." You know what picture appears at the same time he begins talking about the trap? a blueprint of Lefty. Lefty is Henry's attempt at doing what William did, to lure his daughter back to the same place she died-- The alleyway behind Fredbear's. This is why Lefty resembles Shadow Freddy so much. If Nightmare and Nightmarionne are the same, then they also feed on William's suffering.
@amyrodgers4252
Жыл бұрын
The thing I'm curious about is if whether or not the actual animatronics are aware of Shadow Bonnie's existence. They're definitely aware of S.Freddy's existence since they literally followed him to find William, but do they know about Shadow Bonnie? It'd actually be interesting to know what the animatronics think of other than revenge on Afton and killing guards.
@Cxsonn
Жыл бұрын
I think Shadow Freddy is evil, and Shadow Bonnie not. Shadow Freddy was made from William's agony, hatred, and anger. That's the animatronic outside of Crying Child's window in Midnight Motorist. Shadow Freddy leads him to Charlie's dead body, and that's where he ran off to. Charlie's death is what made Shadow Freddy come to be. Shadow Freddy is also trying to help William lead to animatronics to him in FOLLOW ME, so that William can try to get remnant. Shadow Freddy is evil. Nightmare is called Shadow Freddy in the files of FNAF4, so this leads me to believe they're the same entity. Nightmare also talks about how he is William's wickedness made of flesh. As for Shadow Bonnie, IDK. Some people think it was created from Charlies agony after she was killed, and that's why he tries to help the children, but who knows. Just my opinion, though. But hey, that's just a theory. A GAME THEORY!!! I like your theory a lot too though.
@theforgottenscribe
Жыл бұрын
Actually, there's some subtle details in FNAF 2 that suggest the 'Dead Children's Incident' (hate the name for this but whatever) happened before the gameplay. The check you get at the end very clearly has a date that's not in the summer, while night 1's phone recording clearly welcomes you to a summer job. So yes, one of the DCI kids could've produced S. Bonnie
@TsulaAngenati2292
Жыл бұрын
They could be the agonized spirits of two workers who got springlocked by the springlocks either due to William’s instruction to do so or William springlocking them if they saw something they shouldn’t have. Either way, they’d be aggressive to William for revenge but sympathetic to the kids. They’d attack the night guard (Michael under a fake alias). They’d also be aggressive to anyone trying to harness dark remnant as that would seem to imply they are collecting the pain of souls for some nefarious reason Either that or they are simply the hallucinations of Michael recalling “uncle” Henry and “papa” William
@croissant2186
Жыл бұрын
New theory: Shadow Bonnie is none other but a pokimane simp and is just asking for her to say his name so he can be free from the curse and end his eternal crippling debt
@sonerec725
Жыл бұрын
I do think its noteworthy that Nightmare is labeled as "shadow freddy" by the game files iirc in 4. And if so that would indicate another instance of them being a parallel to specifically golden freddy / fredbear. One theory I would maybe posited is that if the "2 souls" theory about golden freddy is correct, perhaps the regular golden freddy manifestation represents Cassidy, and shadow freddy represents the afton child who is normally more repressed by the more aggressive Cassidy. This would also line up with Nightmare being a version of shadow freddy, since it being a dark reflection of fredbear and having a human brain seems like a specific reference to it being a nightmare of Michael afton from guilt over his brothers death
@level-6_hazmat
Жыл бұрын
I think shadow Freddy is made of the agony that C.c made after he died
@level-6_hazmat
Жыл бұрын
C.c would create so much agony cuz of the bite and the pain of being bitten and being betrayed by his older brother micheal to make shadow freddy
@BluesChelsea12045
Жыл бұрын
Shadow Animtronocs might be one of the scariest things in FNAF Imagine they existed in irl and guys personally to play Willam Afton in the FNAF Movie they should casted William Dafoe i mean look at him is scary and frightening and hey I hope you don't forget me and #RyeToastto100k So close to hitting it take care ❤️😉
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
Willem Dafoe would have been good, but I think they made a good choice in casting. And oh my we're close to that huh? What a wild number to hit. Thank you!!
@StrangeSJP
Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video, Rye!!!
@RyeToast
Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!
@ItalianBrussel
Жыл бұрын
I really like this one! I'm a little confused on why Charlie would become a version of Toy Bonnie, but thematically this fits pretty well. The springlock failure victims is also a great theory, and I agree that the motive is a little shaky. Great video!
@dragoe8651
Жыл бұрын
I have to wonder why shadow freddy is purple and not black like shadow bonnie but i may have an answer it's because unlike shadow bonnie shadow freddy doesn't really have a form so it just went in an already existing suit the golden freddy suit and since the golden freddy suit had remnant the agony mixed with it making it's unusual colour and why we don't see the golden freddy suit when shadow freddy is around in fnaf two every withered animatronic has to be out of part's and service except golden freddy and why we don't see golden freddy in follow me is because shadow freddy is the golden freddy suit
@HollowedHeart
Жыл бұрын
I think it is also worth noting that this is one of many things we can see shared between Freddy and Bonnie (in a sense). Both are the only animatronics, that we currently know of, to have golden springlock suits. But also, the graves in the ending of FFPS line up with the heads in the ending of FNAF3, looking at this the two that share a font line up as Bonnie and Freddy. I truly do think the amount of things that these two in particular share is fascinating and likely a call back to the relationship between Afton and Henry
@--CHARLIE--
Жыл бұрын
There are some who believe that Shadow Freddy also appears in fnaf 4 as Nightmare. Notably, in the game files there is an image file labeled "shadow freddy". Its just an image of some text reading "NIGHTMARE" Most people forget about this or aren't aware of it, but it is important to cover.
@mikkaddo9861
Жыл бұрын
I'd argue there is reason to believe, that given the use of the graphics, and the use of the term *AGONY* to define the power that keeps spirits present despite their death, you could say every child spirit in this franchise is a "crying child" yes. hot take. I know. but that's one of the hills I choose to die on, especially given the ultimate guide's language.
@IlyLaarouci
Жыл бұрын
2:58 i read that with the walterr white voice
@IMakeMetal
Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure these two "animatronics" (if we can even call them that) are even necessarily related to each other. I've heard a theory before that the fnaf 2 mini game appearance is from the perspective of the animatronics, so that's just their perspective of what's going on. Something that looks dark purple and kind of like freddy. Aside from this mini game, we don't actually see shadow freddy really do anything, so I'm not convinced it's appropriate to be assigning goals or personality to it. There's also the difficult bit of discerning what is or isn't canon with fnaf AR given some of the more colorful variant characters within that game. I think there isn't enough information to go on at this point.
@CeeJei
Жыл бұрын
One thing linking the shadows to the springlock animatronics is the fact that shadow Freddy is a recolored withered golden Freddy and shadow Bonnies almost toy Bonnie like design is linked to spring bonnie. Why you may ask? Well, in the fnaf four minigames when the crying child is locked up in the backroom of the restaurant you see a spring Bonnie head in a shelve that looks exactly like a yellow toy Bonnie.
@xenophanes5860
Жыл бұрын
In my personal head canon shadow freddy isn't evil
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