You guys sure have a lot of knowledge. I appreciate your videos. I finally got around to ordering a kilt from your company this past weekend. I can’t wait to wear it.
@bert-the-cosh7493
4 жыл бұрын
So glad I found this site and video. My family is Clan O'Hart and as my granny drummed into me "Wear that yellow!" she never said Saffron! Now I am 75 still working a little and its 40c here in Spain. I want to choose a tartan and I guess it will be the "yellow" Saffron or County Meath. I will be layed out in my kilt but have not worn one for 55 years. With your substantial knowledge would you include another tartan? I am anxious to hear your answers. post note; I cannot find a tartan for the other 3 Tara clans. MY granny said "we , The Royal Families",never wore one tartan" Again your help appreciated? A. Charles O'Hart
@MrBagpipes
3 жыл бұрын
I've seen the original Ulster Tartan in The Ulster Museum in Belfast..It is quite dark and it's colours are not nearly as vibrant as the current colours of Ulster Tartan. The wool in the cloth is originally from Donegal.
@Richard-od3gc
2 жыл бұрын
Ulster has historic links to Scotland half them came from there
@MrBagpipes
2 жыл бұрын
@@Richard-od3gc Being from Ulster I'm familiar with where we have historic links to. I think it's about 70% of Planters were Lowland Scots,the rest mainly English. The province of Ulster has a slight Irish Catholic majority. Half of Ulster folk hailing from Scotland is not historically accurate.
@Richard-od3gc
2 жыл бұрын
@@MrBagpipes yes OK however the Scots and very Northern English had kids they are Scottish enough
@jamesbradshaw3389
Жыл бұрын
Check through our family history I have discovered that my forefather's x 1037 wore deep dark green and bright blue Kilts, with a large part across the chest, flung over the right shoulder, covering most of the back, and tied at the waist as they ride into battle
@galoglaich3281
4 жыл бұрын
Irish male dancers wore kilts up to the 70s and 80s in competitions,now its all trousers. Not sure about the GAA wearing them ,maybe very early on when they concentrated on highland game type events,whereas as now they are concerned mostly with indigenous team sports of ireland.
@ChipsChallenge95
4 жыл бұрын
Enough of us are mixed somewhere down the line, I’m half a MacDonald, and married to another MacDonald. Donald has 40 tartans, so lots to choose from. I’m from Cork so we have our county tartan, or we all have the national tartan.
@drrd4127
Жыл бұрын
I realised the oldest Irish Tartan was 17th century where's the oldest Scottish Tartan 3rd century so the oldest Scottish Tartan is 1,400 older than the oldest Irish Tartan. The oldest Irish Tartan was proved to be created by a Scottish tailor from the Highlands. But the oldest Scottish Tartan was found in a Pictish settlement just north of Antonines wall. I suspect that tartan historically was more of a Brythonic Fashion (obviously influenced by Hallstatt culture) than a Gaelic Fashion and when the Picts and the Scots Gaels merged with the Picts to form the Kingdom of Alba it became associated with Highland and Gaelic culture but I think it's more of Brythonic thing and that explains it not existing in Ireland, one historian commented on this: "if you presume that Tartan was brought to Scotland through the Scotti tribe of Ireland then you will have to prove that Tartan existed in Ireland before the migration of the Gaels into Scotland" so far there just has been no proof that Tartan was the fashion in Ireland before the Scotti migrated into Scotland, Tartan is more likely to be Pictish Brythonic in origin. We know the Gaels (Scotti) tribe met with the Picts in the Highlands because there was written accounts of this, even the Book of Kells (believed to have been written in Iona) shows draws that are similar to Pictish stones. I truly think that Scots (Irish Gaels) didn't take over Scotland's native tribes but merged with them. I am Scottish and I truly think we are a mongrel nation and recent DNA evidence has proven this. We didn't just originate from just one tribe but multiple tribes.
@WjfhdhShshshsh
8 ай бұрын
Yes We didn't use them in Ireland at all there's no ev before the young irish man's nationalist movement
@jimobrien84
3 жыл бұрын
What about the tartan trews you see in any ancient artwork depicting Celtic warriors. It seems like at least in the medieval period all celts wore patterns like that
@drrd4127
Жыл бұрын
Those are actually the Ancient Britons, not the ancient Gaels from Ireland. Mostly they are images of the Picts. The oldest Tartan was found on Pictish settlement north of the Roman wall Antonine.
@WjfhdhShshshsh
8 ай бұрын
These are brythonic Gaels did not use tartans or kilts we come from iberian there's no need for a tartan or kilt
@thomaspatton4401
4 жыл бұрын
Since the terra/Murphy tartan is based Pattern wise on the MacLean of Duart Tartan, and the origins of it remains inconclusive (as per the Scottish Registry Report,) Would it be proper to wear it as a MacLean tartan as well as a Murphy Tartan? Or will it remain shrouded in fog. Stay Tuned! Kudos Guys!!!
@bert-the-cosh7493
4 жыл бұрын
TARA. hope that helps. A C, O'Hart
@madisennicolekirkpatrick5964
8 ай бұрын
Kirkpatrick is scottish, as kirk is scottish for church. Its not irish
@thomaspatton4401
4 жыл бұрын
What is, It's My Tartan, MacLean of Duart for a hundred Rocky!
@Di--pg4of
4 жыл бұрын
i am from algeria but i like irish cevilisation ... i read more about it.. i wonna vesited it
@chrisjustus5446
3 жыл бұрын
I PERSONALLY KNEW A MAN BACK IN THE 1970'S THAT HAD A BATHROBE MADE OUT OF THE DUBLIN TARTAN WHICH I SAW MYSELF. HE TOOK ME TO MY VERY FIRST SCOTTISH HIGHLAND GAMES AT GRANDFATHER MOUNTAIN, N C. HE HAD LIVED IN IRELAND AND WAS A MEMBER OF THE I. R. A. HE TOLD ME THAT HIS BATHROBE WAS MADE IN THE DUBLIN TARTAN AND THIS WAS IN THE MID-- 197O'S.
@usakilts
3 жыл бұрын
The Dublin tartan was designed in 1995 and registered in 1996: www.tartanregister.gov.uk/tartanDetails?ref=999
@mickeencrua
Жыл бұрын
If he told you that he was a member of the IRA, then everything else he said is untrue.
@timsoyars1652
4 жыл бұрын
From Clan Crawford, which is Scots-Irish, so I guess that’s kind of a hybrid issue. It seems the Scots-Irish stuck with their Scottish tartans.
@jamesgcain
4 жыл бұрын
Tim Soyars I’m from Clan Crawford on my Mom’s side.
@ajrwilde14
3 жыл бұрын
The Scots-Irish came from lowland Scotland/Northern England, originally before they moved to Northern Ireland they did not have tartans since tartan was only worn by Highlanders
@Richard-od3gc
2 жыл бұрын
@@ajrwilde14 your right the ulster Scots most came from low land Scotland however the lowlands immatated the Highland way of culture
@samanthamitchellprete5646
2 жыл бұрын
I love my Mitchell Tartan 💙 🏴🇮🇪🏴🇮🇪🏴🇮🇪
@DavidJosephGreen
4 жыл бұрын
So there are no accounts of Irish people wearing tartan in ancient times even though they are Celtic?
@blacksmith67
4 жыл бұрын
Depending on what you mean by “ancient times” neither did Scots. The oldest examples of quasi-tartan are simple checks, and these aren’t restricted to Scotland, or even Europe for that matter.
@DavidJosephGreen
4 жыл бұрын
I would say ancient as in any time prior to the 19th century. For example, any Irish families or communities in Ireland aside from Ulster Scots. Is tartan more specifically Scottish and not more Celtic culture in general?
@2m0xfm
4 жыл бұрын
Alexander Khan look at the Falkirk sett From the year 300,might be Pictish or the beaker people
@blacksmith67
4 жыл бұрын
Alexander Khan The 18th century is well within the period of Scottish tartan as regional variations in colours (not quite at the point of having specific family setts). So your question is a good one. My books date to the 1970s and 80s and do not mention anything outside of Scotland (although I really ought to double check this). All that I seem to remember is a bit of check cloth found with Roman coins at Falkirk from about the third century and some reference by Roman authors describing Celts wearing [something like tartan] bright colours and trousers. I shall go have a little dig around. I do recall that the Irish (I think this is mentioned in this video) wore the same long saffron coloured linen shirt that Scots wore (Scoti being the Latin name for a tribe of Irish who moved into Scotland where Picts and Jutes were already established, but eventually giving their name to the whole place).
@DavidJosephGreen
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I understand that Celtic culture used to spread throughout Europe, so I am curious why people/groups in Ireland didn't use Tartan pattern, and if there are specific reasons, such as tartan being more specifically Scottish region, and not just an aspect of Celtic culture in general👍🏻. (Maybe those people the Gales defeated when arriving in Ireland used Tartan?)
@zaynevanday142
3 жыл бұрын
of course it does
@briaincampbellmacart6024
4 жыл бұрын
Why is Tara tartan and Murphy tartan the same? The Four Houses of Tara are Hart, Kelly, Reagan, and Kelly. The Murphys are west coast. Why are they associated with Tara?
@mickeencrua
Жыл бұрын
🤣😂 Two Kellys?
@blacksmith67
4 жыл бұрын
Paused at 0:12 ... going to say Maclean of Duart. Resuming video
@blacksmith67
4 жыл бұрын
I should say that I am not a tartan genius, nor do I have a phenomenal memory. I pulled out my dog eared copy of Ian Grimble’s _Scottish Clans & Tartans_ last night and leafed through it looking at the various setts before hopping onto the tartan designer at Scotweb. I was paying more attention to the thread counts than the colours.
@kanewalsh3603
4 жыл бұрын
Kilkenny Walsh clan 🇮🇪
@myday805
4 жыл бұрын
The oldest tartan cloth ever found was found in Austria. So a tartan is a tartan but who can really claim the tartan?
@cooldaddy2877
2 жыл бұрын
the oldest tartans come from China and Egypt.
@myday805
2 жыл бұрын
@@cooldaddy2877 Rubbish. You obviously don't know what tartan actually means.
@cooldaddy2877
2 жыл бұрын
@@myday805 I would like to know your definition of tartan. Lets go....
@myday805
2 жыл бұрын
@@cooldaddy2877 A woollen cloth woven in one of several patterns of coloured checks and intersecting lines. No I don't want to know about same lame simile you like to use to claim that tartans aren't Celtic in your post modernist attempt to rewrite history.
@drrd4127
Жыл бұрын
@@cooldaddy2877 Actually, those Tartan found in China were DNA tests and we're Europeans! They were tall, with Blonde, red hair, believed to be European migrants.
@calladec
3 жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as an Irish Tartan
@widowrumstrypze9705
3 жыл бұрын
Yes there are, they just aren't "old" yet. All traditions start somewhere. How far back does a tradition have to go to be "valid", anyway?
@poundlandbandit6124
2 жыл бұрын
The Irish were known to have worn tartan but not to the same extent as the Scot’s.
@gallowglass2630
2 жыл бұрын
@@poundlandbandit6124 They wore tartan trousers alright,but not the kilt
@gallowglass2630
2 жыл бұрын
@@widowrumstrypze9705 Its not an irish tradition though,its an north american tradition for people of irish descent.The vast majority close on 100% wouldn't know about the county tartans.Nothing wrong with it if thats the way they want to represent there heritage ,but its not really an irish tradition new or old.County identity is very important here in ireland however never saw it represented with tartans not yet any way.
@drrd4127
Жыл бұрын
@@poundlandbandit6124 No! Tartan was more of a Brythonic thing that a Gaelic thing! The Gaels in Spain don't wear Tartan, now do they! It was believed the Gaels ditched the tartan fashion. Tartan came to the British isle through the Hallstatt culture and was adopted by Brythonic tribes!
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