What do you think about tubeless tyres, will pros stop using tubulars and clinchers?
5 жыл бұрын
Switched to tubeless last year and love 'em. I ride lot's of sketchy chip-seal rural roads and the odd gravel road. My front tyre has punctured 4 times this year. Each time, I have stopped, spun the wheel a few times to let the sealant do it's magic and simply rode home. I'm never going back to clinchers.
@brankododig1585
5 жыл бұрын
Don't think so, clinchers with superlight butyl tubes or latex tubes are as light as tubeless with sealant and roll at least as fast, if not faster. No performance advantage making the switch...
@feedbackzaloop
5 жыл бұрын
Ask GMBNers, if they still carry an inner tube (they do)
@workingguy6666
5 жыл бұрын
Tubeless tires: A friend called me up to ask if I could bring over my portable air compressor to re-seat one of her tubeless tires just last week. She called me back, though, stating that she didn't have any sealant - and it was a holiday weekend, so no places were open. Now, this was a mountain bike, but it going tubeless means that nearly everyone will now have to own an air compressor to re-seat tires that either need changed, or that - through being a second bike - just got deflated enough to un-seat, I can see how tubeless would be considered too much of a pain in the rear for average riders to maintain themselves.
@wowcherub
5 жыл бұрын
@@brankododig1585 This is incorrect- the RR advantage of TL vs a latex tube is still significantly more advantageous. When I say significantly i'm talking marginal gains but as a road/tt racer its a big difference. Check RR testing.
@whitemountainbiking902
5 жыл бұрын
Tubeless is great. But it needs to standardised throughout the industry. Its not right that some setups are so good and easy where as others are a little more of a challenge. Nail this and it will come to the masses. Well presented, thanks for a great show. 👌
@SM_525
5 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree. There's too much wonkiness, still.
@tomkunich9401
5 жыл бұрын
Disk brakes make changing flats slow and difficult. So the pro's are shifting to tubeless and getting no flats even under horrible conditions. They also have lower rolling resistance. So what do we see here? "I'm afraid of anything new!" I've been riding for 40 years and it takes a couple of tries to get the hang of mounting them properly but then they are all hell and gone better. Imagine hard cornering without the fear in the back of your mind of a blowout?
@tomkunich9401
5 жыл бұрын
RollinRat - high pressure in a tubeless MTB tire? Part of the reason for tubeless is the ability to use lower than normal pressure. You don't sound like much of a mechanic if you'll forgive me.
@SM_525
5 жыл бұрын
@@tomkunich9401 I'm certainly not afraid of anything new. Also, your assertion with regard to rolling resistance is not universal.
@whitemountainbiking902
5 жыл бұрын
Tom Kunich, maybe he meant 80psi in the road tyres? It’s easy to pick a wrong thread here. A little harsh calling his credentials into question straight away?
@lifeshard1686
5 жыл бұрын
I swapped to tubeless at the end of last year. I've had awful luck so far. They are near impossible to put on the rim (shout out to Pedro's levers though, without them I'm not sure it would be possible) and they have gotten really small cuts, something that wouldn't be an issue on a clincher once you swap out a tube. But the tires will not seal. I've replaced 2 tires in the past month.
@carlofino4666
5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely not. Tubeless give you a fake sense of security that yu will never puncture but when you do puncture badly you have to get a cab home. Unless you have with you an inner tube, the kit to unscrew the valve and super Human force in your hands to manage fitting the tyre back on the bloody rim. I personally think it is the worse possible "innovation" that has never been proposed.
@MrBJPitt
5 жыл бұрын
True, I wonder if it was the other way around. Imagine if tubeless was invented first with the hassle of fit and sealant. Then someone invented the clincher with tube. Easy to fit, and easy to repair. Would clincher tubes be seen as the new tech? 😄
@carlofino4666
5 жыл бұрын
@@MrBJPitt Exactly! INteresting to put it that way :-)
@bobbyhempel1513
5 жыл бұрын
If you get the right tire and rim combination it's not that hard to put the tires on and most people carry a multi-tool with them that can be used to take the valve stem out and again most people also carry a spare tube with them even if they ride tubeless just in case they get a slice in their tire
@carlofino4666
5 жыл бұрын
@@bobbyhempel1513 which defeats the purpose of not having to worry about punctures / not having to carry stuff.. BUPitt summarised it perfectly, it is a shit technology!
@matthewlewis2072
5 жыл бұрын
14:12 that De Rosa isn't "super nice", it's positively erotic...
@DolleHengst
5 жыл бұрын
Great looking, yes, but the gap between the frame and headset spacer is a shame on such a high end bike.
@lilbaby2266
5 жыл бұрын
DolleHengst I know tell me about it. Like any bloke would notice while riding.
@jack14kd
5 жыл бұрын
Where's the bora ultras
@DolleHengst
5 жыл бұрын
@@lilbaby2266 an Italian road bike isn't just a bike. It is also an aesthetic thing. A thing of beauty, a joy to look at. You won't find gaps like that on a 2000 euro Canyon or Giant.
@RichLovelock
5 жыл бұрын
@@jack14kd they don't make Bora Ultra disc (yet)
@NeoPayneHK
5 жыл бұрын
Do Tubeless Tyres Mean The Death Of Clinchers & Tubulars? not even close
@53glowe
5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. This point of view, that what pro riders use, we should use is bollocks. Pro riders represent a minuscule percentage of total riders in the world today. They have ultra lightweight bikes, travel at high speed, rider weight is typically below 65kg and they have team service support. The riders never have to change flats or repair their bikes let alone pay for them. Please John... keep it real and in perspective😳
@MrBJPitt
5 жыл бұрын
@@53glowe it depends. Pros do carry spare tubulars during training rides, and I'm sure fix many punctures or mechanicals during these training ride. But yes, what is good for a fully supported race, might not necessarily be good for an amateur
@travis5481
5 жыл бұрын
That point of view made a lot of sense for tubular, because they are a pain in the ass. But tubeless are almost set and forget. I still always carry a spare tube, but I've never had to use it in years of running tubeless. If you love changing flats, more power to you. You still riding those 19mm tires?
@martinhayes5087
5 жыл бұрын
I do love my tubeless, I got a puncture front and rear last week and I managed another 30km with them spitting out sealant every so often, but I made it back safely and the tyres still retained a decent pressure, previously on tubes I've had to give up on rides and call a taxi after using the couple of tubes I had on me!
@MessyJ
5 жыл бұрын
I've been riding tubeless for about 10,000 kms. They can be more fiddly but, the other day, I stopped to pull a thorn out of my front tyre before continuing my ride. It hissed for 3 seconds but had no discernible pressure loss. They allow me to run 70 psi (I'm 110 kg). Changing to tubeless has transformed my bike. They feel so much faster and the lower pressure means I can now corner with far more confidence as the front doesn't skip off every imperfection as tyres do at 110 psi. I won't go back!
@DavidKent0407
5 жыл бұрын
That mirrors my experience too.
@gillescordier8033
5 жыл бұрын
Bianchi is pronounced Bi-an-ki not Bian-shi...!!
@jack002tuber
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree. KEE not SHE
@Originalxlander
5 жыл бұрын
Do you get stuck in rooms with Windows in the ceiling. Because no one cares and accent always applies.
@adamlynch9153
4 жыл бұрын
Only in Italia 🇮🇹
@awildtomappeared5925
5 жыл бұрын
No one should be able to ring the bell alone, it's too much power for one man!
@richfi9576
5 жыл бұрын
don't worry: Jon's a professional!
@MTBeginner-
5 жыл бұрын
With the bell comes great responsibility 😃🚴🏻
@dapster
5 жыл бұрын
Unless your name is Oliver Bridgewood. In that case, he needs to keep away from the bell, period. BTW, Ollie, please give Jon back the bell.
@andrefouche5834
5 жыл бұрын
Have 3 bikes with tubeless conversions, never again will i put a tube in unless i have an unsealable cut in a tyre. Excellent road holding, super fast regular puncture repair and so much more comfortable on rough chip road surface, almost like having a suspension
@owltune5496
5 жыл бұрын
Had to screenshot the grey derosa. What a great bike and photo. 😎👍🚴🚴🚴💯
@andrewbackhouse5828
5 жыл бұрын
Love the show, John, but practice saying "Bianchi " correctly, or they won't let you fly solo again!
@adamlynch9153
4 жыл бұрын
Andrew Backhouse he speaks English not Italian
@braddemarco8040
5 жыл бұрын
For greater acceptance from Roadies the manufacturers need to come up with a standard that allows for easier way to insert a tube if you get a puncture that won’t seal. Nothing worse than being out on a long ride spending 40 minutes or more trying to get the tire off, tube in and tire back in in order to ride or worst case having to call Uber to get home. Until this is solved tubeless benefits are not being maximized. I have gone back to riding clinchers with tubes.
@jesseladd6864
3 жыл бұрын
Lots of tubeless rims allow for a tube option
@XX-is7ps
5 жыл бұрын
I use clinchers. I've not tried tubeless, but most of the people that I know that have them find them a pain to set up, and carry inner tubes and mini-pumps with them in case of puncture. Given that the weight of sealant you inject (c. 50ml) is about the same weight as a lightweight inner tube (55g for continental supersonic), only a lot more messy and hassle to set up (not to mention can evaporate/dry up leaving the tubeless unable to seal) , I just don't understand what advantage tubeless offers. For riders who just simply want to go out and ride, clinchers are a system that is "good enough". For cars, tubeless works well because there's so much depth of tread that you're unlikely to puncture and can handle the hassle of a tyre swap (and carry a spare tyre) when it infrequently occurs. Bike tyres are necessarily thinner and punctures a reality of life. Until tyres are self-sealing, punctures will happen, carrying a spare tire with you is impractical, sealant is messy, and clinchers are a problem that doesn't need solving.
@jochenkraus7016
5 жыл бұрын
"Solving a problem that I don't have" is what I think directly after "Should I give it a try? Puncture resistance, more comfort, it's something new which means that it justifies buying new stuff etc.".
@thisApex3D
5 жыл бұрын
1) It can actually seal puncture unlike clincher 2) You can run lower PSI 3) You can still put inside tube and make it clincher. So why on earth would you go for clincher?
@FuzzyDropbear
5 жыл бұрын
Jiří Jezdinský ease of use, takes me very little time to patch up a flat on clinchers, tubeless is still puncture resistant, not proof. Most of my punctures are pretty big slices, not so much smaller ones, which renders the difference quite small for the stuffing around. YMMV, I say why not both and just choose what suits you?
@jochenkraus7016
5 жыл бұрын
@Jiří Jezdinský: Did you already try to put an inner tube in? I have concerns that this could be tricky with all that sticky snot in the tire and on the bike.
@ryanedge1996
5 жыл бұрын
I have tried putting a tube in and failed. Along with a few others i know. The beads just won't seat even with a track pump, so no chance of doing it at the side of the road. As someone else mentioned, when tubeless goes wrong, it really does mean getting a car to pick you up. I've tried tubeless and gone back to clinchers. Carrying a tube and slinging it in when you do puncture is much simpler. As others mentioned gashes too large for the fluid to seal seems to be common.
@DavidKent0407
5 жыл бұрын
I've been using tubeless for three years but they can still be very hard to set up. There is no standard for rim and tyre diameter so some tyres like the new Continental GD5000TL can be almost impossible to get onto some rims. Most of my cycling mates can't be bothered with the hassle of tubeless setups. The other important part is the effectiveness of the sealant. In my experience of about 30,000km on tubeless tyres I have concluded that the sealant needs to be one with micro crystals in it such as Orange Endurance or Stans Race Sealant. Simple latex based sealants such as ordinary Stans and many others are not reliable for sealing a hole at the higher pressures of road tyres.
@hogiewan
5 жыл бұрын
I have some tubeless wheels on the way - thanks for the info. I will probably run then with tubes at first, then switch to tubeless at the first tire change.
@tomkunich9401
5 жыл бұрын
I don't have any trouble mounting and have gone from Orange to Finish Line which works as well and lasts longer. Tubeless work so well that the only time I know I had a puncture is when the stone or piece of glass sticks in the tire and thump, thump, thump. I brush it off and continue. The weight of the sealant is not rolling weight since most of it remains at the road surface of the tire. You can tell the difference immediately.
@gadsden472
5 жыл бұрын
Same as Michael. Thanks. Have my gp5000tls in 28, my carbon wheelset, just deciding on color scheme, valves/sealant/tape and a few bits for my new build. Don't even have a thousand miles yet this season and have already had 3 punctures. Can't wait for my tubeless set up
@biketubebrand1307
5 жыл бұрын
@@tomkunich9401 As you ride, about half of the sealant coats the entire inside of the tire, rotating with it, while the rest sits in a puddle near the road, creating shear friction.
@awesomexistence
5 жыл бұрын
Biketube Brand, maybe at about 3mph or less. The sealant will be dispersed throughout the tire, quickly, when up to speed with absolutely no friction. Show me some studies that say otherwise.
@danc1829
5 жыл бұрын
700g John my tube and tyre is 245g. Lighhter than any tubeless 😂😂 Continental gp4000 rs = 195g Supersonic tube = 50g Total 245g A tubeless is heavier then with sealant. Harder to mount More expensive People that run tubeless still carry a pump and tube in most cases anyway. Not one puncture on my light weight clinchers and tubes. Cant see why I would go tubeless more expensive more weight on your wheels 🙈
@scoopermg8226
5 жыл бұрын
Because you won't suffer a flat. That's why.
@hogiewan
5 жыл бұрын
People that run tubes carry spares, so that is a wash. However, you forgot to mention the weight of rim tape and tubeless valve stems.
@danc1829
5 жыл бұрын
@@hogiewan I run tubeless tape so weight isn't any different reason being I'm running Reynolds assualts which are tubeless ready and they came with tubless tape on them. So it's no extra weight. Value stems good point although I dont think it would be much extra weight. My main point is 4 someone that doesnt get punctures why would you bother any upgrade video u watch will always state best upgrades are tyres and lighter wheels so why would u want to make them heavier. If I went for the continental gp5000 for example thats 300g per tyre in a 25mm plus sealant and valve stems so probably looking around 330g a wheel. My clincher set up is 245g and gave me no bother. Your looking around an extra 170g in weight, for a more expensive tyre that's also harder to mount, more messy and you might even need a special pump if your floor pump wont mount the tyre to rim. I'll stick to my lightweight clinchers 😂
@danc1829
5 жыл бұрын
@@scoopermg8226 ive never suffered a flat 700 miles on these tyres and tubes, no issues 🤷♂️ I'd see the benefit I'd I had punctures but as I've stated above ive never had one on these tyres and tubes. Even on events like the Birmingham Velo on cobbles through Coventry no flats yet... And u can still suffer a flat on a tubeless tyre only difference is if the sealant doesn't work you'll probably be getting a cab back as you probably wont be able to remove the tyre due to most of them being so tight to mount on the rim.
@Grunge_Cycling
5 жыл бұрын
Man......here I thought I was too depressed to even watch the Tech Show, but I hesitantly opened it anyways. Jon's enthusiasm just cheered me up instantly! Love you, Jon!
@petepansen6614
5 жыл бұрын
Tubeless works really good for me on mtb or gravel/cx bikes, on a road bike it just doesn't seal up after a puncture with anything more than 4 or 5 bar pressure needed - i can only see that work for very lightweight riders that are fine riding those low pressures...sadly i am not
@DavidKent0407
5 жыл бұрын
You are not using a good enough sealant then for the higher pressures of road tubeless tyres.
@markalfresco
5 жыл бұрын
I am going tubeless this week for first time on my gravel bike, hopefully I will love it🤪
@automaticraccon
5 жыл бұрын
You will.
@mrblue.tit.8906
4 жыл бұрын
8 months in hat your thought? I'm looking to switch tubless next week.. little nervous
@MrBJPitt
5 жыл бұрын
I'm happy for people to move to tubeless. It creates plenty of bargains as they sell there premium wheels. Great deals in carbon tubulars now.
@eugenem.9428
5 жыл бұрын
Great idea which I hadn't thought of. Here I come "Screw riding up grades..."
@FRamirez1A
5 жыл бұрын
I have been using tubeless in my road bike for over a year now and I couldn't be happier. I always have a tube just in case, but so far i i haven't used it yet!!!!
@krnone8057
5 жыл бұрын
So can you explain - what are benefits using tubeless over clinchers in a road bike? Because I still don't get it: a tubeless set is the same weight or even a bit heavier than a clincher set (tyre is heavier, rim is heavier, sealant weight can be about the weight of a light tube + you have also weight of the valves), it is probably more expensive, maintenance is harder and more dirty. And then there are benefits of tubeless sets which I love in my mtb bike: 1. you can use lower pressure - do we need it for road bikes? I weigh 105kg and can use 5 bar or even 4 bar using tubes for my Contis GP4000 28c - does anyone need pressure lower than that in a road bike? 2. It seals small cuts and holes - but the first question is - does it really work for high pressures (I heard that the tyre can be shitting out the sealant all over the place until the pressure goes down to a value for which the hole can be sealed)? And the second question - do we need it for road bikes? I just had my first puncture on a road bike, after about 8k km of riding. Btw. it was a cut which I believe couldn't be fixed by sealant.
@FRamirez1A
5 жыл бұрын
@@krnone8057 My tubeless setup is lighter than my old tube setup. The tire is slightly heavier but the tire total weight is lighter. So far in over a year i i haven't had any flat tires and that alone is worth the change in my very own opinion. You are correct, a cut in the side won't be sealed so i always have a tube with me, but you can even get plugs for road bike tubeless tires for big holes the sealant fails to close and that is way faster than fixing a flat in a tube. I also ride MTBs so I like the fact that i have everything that i need for the tires. It is just my preference but in the end what it really matters is enjoying riding regardless of the bike setup, price, type..... It is just my opinion!
@perrymckenna2261
5 жыл бұрын
Hopefully, it's just a fad as they are messy, hard to set up and not easy to repair on the road if the gash is too big. I've tried them and went back to clinchers.
@dingodoggy66
5 жыл бұрын
Perry McKenna +1
@xJae14x
4 жыл бұрын
Richard Bull -1
@ssaslavsky
5 жыл бұрын
Tubeless are harder Install: true Tubeless are messy (replacing the fluid, etc): true I do the maintenance of my tubeless in my garage, when I fell like, If I feel like,and I don't have to stop under the rain to repair a flat: priceless
@DavidKent0407
5 жыл бұрын
That has been my experience with them too. I'd add that if I have a hole in a tyre during a race I don't have to stop as it seals by itself.
@brianwright9514
5 жыл бұрын
I switched to road tubeless years ago when Hutchinson first introduced their road tubeless tires. The previous riding season, I'd had over a half dozen flats and I was pissed. Only had 4 flats since then; only one of which required me to stop and demount the tire to repair, otherwise I was able to ride over 20 miles with a punctured tire and get home before losing all the air pressure. I'm sold.
@carlos.5290
4 жыл бұрын
@@brianwright9514 hi, May I ask you if you would have a flat that the sealent wouldnt fix, would it be adviceable to put a tube and continue as you were on clinchers?
@brianwright9514
4 жыл бұрын
@@carlos.5290 the punctures I have had on the road that didn't seal were because I hadn't refreshed sealant frequently enough.
@chatlow
5 жыл бұрын
I've had tubeless for a year on my propel and they have been excellent, instantly sealing one big puncture in that time and a number of smaller ones too. Pack of plugs and constant pressure checks and you're set. Unfortunately, a pothole has meant one got scrapped recently and many people will pull their hair out trying to fit and seat these to the rim - even with the right tools and compression chambers, they don't go on very easily. Even my lbs gave up and said they tend to avoid some tubeless brands
@nicholasmontoya5369
4 жыл бұрын
Which tubeless brands ?
@neil7769
5 жыл бұрын
Did you actually say that tubeless as a system has a similar advantage to tubulars in terms of weight..?? You know this is rubbish! They are heavier even than a clincher setup too once you factor in the sealant!
@andycorso8498
5 жыл бұрын
Why does the success of one have to be the death of another ? Why can’t it be a choice?........ anyway my takes is, tubeless is great until it isn’t.....
@PeterPutz82
5 жыл бұрын
Kudos
@oreocarlton3343
5 жыл бұрын
Wize words, tubeless is great as are discs but I cringe at ways they hype new products
@jochenkraus7016
5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it pushes the other things into smaller and smaller niches. Think of TFT vs. CRT or 26" vs. 29" and 27.5" on MTBs.
@oreocarlton3343
5 жыл бұрын
@@jochenkraus7016 well removing 26" was a deliberate and calculated move to make new sales since 29" wasnt a sales success not because there was smth wrong with that size. compared to 27.5" there basically isnt much difference, its called planned obsolence and now theyre trying to do the same with rim brakes on road
@dangurtler7177
5 жыл бұрын
@@jochenkraus7016 Try to find 26" wheels or rims that are usable with V-brakes now though. I may have to convert my 2000 Tanasi to disk in a couple of years.
@dsmithmcse
5 жыл бұрын
I've been riding on tubeless tires on my road bike for about 3 years now. I will never go back to inner tube tires again. I do run my TP about 20% lower with tubeless. I've had several occasions where I've picked up thorns, nails and glass and every time the tires have sealed and I was able to ride home. I did find it a bit difficult to mount and seat the first set of tubeless tires I used. But, I discovered that if you spray a soapy solution onto the bead of the tire it's super easy to mount and seat the tire. I also seat the bead by inflating the tire before introducing the tubeless sealant. Once the tire bead is set I deflate, add sealant then re-inflate to desire psi. I'm truly surprised that more Pro teams have not gotten on board with tubeless tires. Just the fact that no more punctures would be a tipping point for the pro teams. I do believe that tubeless road tire are here to stay and will become the standard in the very near future
@Adrian-sz3dk
3 жыл бұрын
I’m kinda with you, but my Giant Gavia tyres won’t stay ‘set’ on the rims. Once I deflate them, the bead pops. If the damn things would stay engaged to the rims I could easily add sealant and re-inflate. Best I can do is add sealant, super-reinflate with Co2 canister to pop beads, but blow sealant everywhere. I like the ‘idea’ of tubeless but, jeez, they’re a pain in the arse to work with.
@PeterPutz82
5 жыл бұрын
1. Sealant lasts 3 months tops, so you need to pull the tyre off, clean, replace sealant. I get a flat once every 6 months with clinchers. 2. When you tyre doesn't seal and you need to put in a tube, the sealant goes everywhere including your brake track, when this happens, no brakes. 3. You need to carry a tube and pump... uuuummmm yeah 4. Only benefit is slightly better rolling resistance and lower tyre pressure, offset by the above 5. Overall, tubeless is great for MTB, a total waste of time for road. We simply don't get flats often enough to justify it.
@DavidKent0407
5 жыл бұрын
I never carry a tube and rarely have a pump with me. My S-Works Tarmac disc has thru axles that require an Allen key too. With the right set up and the correct sealant all of my punctures seal by themselves. That is the main reason I ride tubeless road tyres.
@MrBJPitt
5 жыл бұрын
All good points, plus MTB run much lower pressure, so the sealant has more chance to work, rather than simply squirting over you and your bike. Regular clinchers for everyday riding is fine. If you have trouble changing tubes, then you really aren't going to enjoy tubeless.
@shannontrainer5857
5 жыл бұрын
You don't pull the tire off, you just top off with more sealant through the valve.
@MrBJPitt
5 жыл бұрын
@@shannontrainer5857 if you don't clean the old sealant out, you end up with heavier and heavier tyres.
@markalfresco
5 жыл бұрын
Hi, am going tubeless on gravel tires, do you agree?
@MrBJPitt
5 жыл бұрын
Nope, tubular tyres are still much safer for pros. Also Andre Greipal said his team will not use tubeless again after the disaster that was Paris Roubaix - flats galore.
@Rexuar
5 жыл бұрын
My personal experience suggest to me that tubular tires still have a quality control issue, even top level tubular brands. Radial tolerance and tire twisting are all common on all the tubs i own. After this, clinchers and tubeless are my choices.
@evangrady8059
5 жыл бұрын
I had a friend of mine build up some Stan's Tubeless Alpha 340Z wheels and mounted them with Hutchinson tubeless rubber. I think I rode 7,000+ miles before my first puncture ( in a puncture prone part of the world), and I needed almost 0 maintenance. I feel like the wheels and rubber are responsive and resilient. I am sold on tubeless. will probably never ride anything else. Evan. ABQ. NM, US
@ThePixelize
5 жыл бұрын
Can you please pronounce Bianchi as Bianki? Thanks!
@ThePixelize
5 жыл бұрын
@daAnder71 What a c****!
@D.Eldon_
5 жыл бұрын
Tubeless tyres on smoothly paved roads? No, I don't believe they will dominate. Tubeless are a mess to work with because of the sealant and there are seldom weight savings vs clinchers because tubeless tyres, themselves, are usually a little heavier than a clincher version of the same tyre and the addition of sealant adds additional weight, offsetting the weight savings of not having an inner tube. Plus, the sealant begins to solidify after about 6-8 months and needs to be periodically cleaned out and replaced -- which adds more mess and maintenance. Furthermore, inner tube technology has seen an exciting new advance from Tubolito Gmbh, a German company ( www.tubolito.com ). The "tubolitos" are made from a thermoplastic elastomer and are as light as latex inner tubes with similar low rolling resistance. Yet they hold air as well as butyl rubber, have better puncture resistance and are claimed to be twice as strong. They also pack very small, making it easier to carry spares in a small saddle bag or jersey pocket.
@fenderperry
5 жыл бұрын
D.Eldon at the end of 6:to 8 months my tires are wore out anyway and need to be changed, it is probably the end of season too.
@georgelane6350
5 жыл бұрын
I'm convinced that, for the majority of riders, they will continue to use clinchers. I set up tubeless on my gravel/cyclocross bike last week, it's great, except that it took to 2 months and a heap of gear to do it. Clinchers are so much easier for maintenance.
@GabrielFarseer
5 жыл бұрын
Tubeless tires are like electric cars and just like them they might not be perfect right now, but they are the future and in order to get there we have to move forward. The tubular tire is as good as it gets and Tubeless will only get better as time goes by.
@FrankP83
5 жыл бұрын
Bianci? :D ...try to say "Bianki" instead of "Bianchi" :)
@MrJadiin
5 жыл бұрын
Bianki sounds silly though :)
@rocco1onerocco983
5 жыл бұрын
Sorry Jon, I hate to say it but you needed some help to set you straight on Bianchi!! You are not alone in the failure to pronounce the "chi" sound correctly.. "Bruschetta" is another classic word often massacred by english speaking folk.
@MrJadiin
5 жыл бұрын
@@rocco1onerocco983 Just look at it like we're improving your language rather than saying it incorrectly :oP
@rocco1onerocco983
5 жыл бұрын
@@MrJadiin Unfortunately there is no improving perfection!
@philipnorton4469
5 жыл бұрын
Road tubeless for anyone who "only" rides recreationally (andthat's most of us) will go the same way as road 1x
@andrewmcalister3462
5 жыл бұрын
For tubeless sealant to work, you have to be running lower pressure. Tubeless really only works therefore for 28mm and larger tyres. The pros that got into trouble at Paris-Roubaix were generally running 25s at higher pressures (because of frame & wheel compatibility issues).
@nimaforoughi7266
5 жыл бұрын
Good video today! I like Jon’s consistency when judging people’s bikes. Should do it more often
@arepea6087
5 жыл бұрын
I'm building right now a Trek carbon frame with Shimano ultegra r8000 and I went back and forth and finally decided on Hunt carbon wheels and gp5000 tubeless I think this is going to give me my best performance here in San Francisco.
@wigancyclist8913
5 жыл бұрын
Tubless tyres are great until you're out and puncture needing a tube to get you home. So, no tubeless will not abolish the need for inner tubes
@gcntech
5 жыл бұрын
Agreed - just take a tube with you, just in case?
@fenderperry
5 жыл бұрын
Wigan Cyclist use a tire plug and refill the tire.
@cameirusisu1024
5 жыл бұрын
if you need a tube to get home, you would have destroyed a tube anyway getting that puncture (always carry a spare whatever your setup), tubless stops the vast majority of small (and not so small you can literally hammer a big nail into a tubless tire and it will seal) punctures that would require repair on a tube. Or just carry some plugs, if you cant plug a tubless tire and seal it, then you've likely shredded the tire and you are walking regardless of what you use.
@peterbee8892
5 жыл бұрын
Tubeless suits me fine but I have had to work through the pain of tyre rim combinations which do not work. I now ride stans grail and avion rims with schwalbe pro one tyre. The tyres roll well and the sealant has fixed every puncture I have had in the last two years. The only time the tyre came off the rim is to put a new tyre on after it was worn out. Note .carry a weldtite tubless puncture repair outfit which can fix the punctures that the sealant does not fix. The only tubes I have used in the last two years are for my luddite roadie friends who don't carry spares.
@Ali_Shafai
5 жыл бұрын
I tried it a few years ago and was a convert, but came back to clinchers because of the mess with tubeless and the fact that it’s more difficult to inflate them.
@dingodoggy66
5 жыл бұрын
Lol - tubeless is total rubbish. Been there, done that. Won’t be going back. How many in the pro peloton run tubeless? I reckon that would be a big fat zero.
@bryngriffith
5 жыл бұрын
Used to have clinchers but got the hump having to change inner tubes all the time so i went to the bike shop and now I've got tubeless Schwalbe Pro One's and not had a puncture since! My only problem is I'm doing L'Etape in July and they require you to take inner tubes, pointless extra weight in my opinion, i have a plug tubeless repair set, small air canister and thats all i need!
@rzeckner
5 жыл бұрын
I have been riding tubeless since last fall without punctures or other problem and expect they will dominate in the near future. Although I shouldn't have been, I nevertheless was surprised by the added comfort of the lower air pressure they allow. I do however worry that if I ever get a puncture that the sealant can't handle I won't be able to get the tire off to put a tube in to get me home. I did a practice removal and reinstall and struggled long and mightily to get the tires off even though they both are Made by Mavic.
@DEAR7340
5 жыл бұрын
This might help: Try your quick release skewer (carefully) as a lever, or prying tool. I have not used tubeless yet, but I am a former tubular user. This technique has helped remove a stubborn tubular for me on more than one occasion, since tubeless and tubular riders might not carry tire levers. Just a thought.
@BMD8
5 жыл бұрын
Nothing classy about Nibali's head unit.
@njm3211
5 жыл бұрын
Mavic UST is a no brainer. Will never go back to tubes.
@PaulMoran01
5 жыл бұрын
I am a big fan of tubeless. But I mostly do adventure/gravel riding in Scotland. It's pretty awesome for off road activities. I do have them on my road bike too. I still think that there is a place for the other tyres though, especially as an inner tube can still save the day for a tubeless set up.
@gcntech
5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Paul, tubes aren't dead yet!
@iamthesunnyboy
5 жыл бұрын
I use GP4000s and was interested in going tubeless. The equivalent 4000s tubeless are heavier than clinchers and cost quite a bit more. Add in the sealant and I would have only lost a few grams per wheel. Not worth it at all. Maybe sometime in the future I'll do it for easier puncture repairs, but th3 4000s already have such a good puncture protection that I usually only get a handful a year eventhough I cycle through glass strewn city roads.
@sbsb4995
4 жыл бұрын
Disc brakes really spoilt the good look of the bicycles. it truly is the biggest gimmick in the history of bicycles. it is really sad.
@Dayumhesgood
5 жыл бұрын
There’s no excuse to pronounce “Bianchi” incorrectly
@GrahamNicholson56
5 жыл бұрын
Tried road tubeless but went back to clinchers after the rear tyre blew out spewing sealant everywhere. Needed an inner tube to get home. Possibly the tyre and rim tolerances worked against each other i.e. small tyre bead, large rim as the tyre beads always popped back down into the centre groove when losing pressure. Is more standardization work needed by rim and tyre manufacturers before tubeless is really ready for high pressure road use? I do swear by tubeless at lower pressures for gravel and MTB.
@plastichead1002
5 жыл бұрын
You said deraillEEEEur. It’s deraillEUr. I mean come on I’ve posted about this before. Can we get this sorted please
@ericsaari2901
5 жыл бұрын
Great until they aren't. They're too difficult to fit and seat.
@PeterPutz82
5 жыл бұрын
I had issues with seating as well, resorted to using a co2 canister which worked, but then I'm wasting a co2 canister.... ergh
@raul0ca
5 жыл бұрын
And don't forget you need to replace sealant regularly when it dries out which means you need to take it off, clean it out and replace with new sealant
@FrankP83
5 жыл бұрын
Never...NEVER take picture of the left side of a bike... :/
@georgelane6350
5 жыл бұрын
Unless it's the British track team's bike!
@DJWolves97
5 жыл бұрын
Clincher tires weigh much less than a tubeless tire, until that changes, I'll be riding clinchers.
@Tuslareb
5 жыл бұрын
DJWolves97 not really. Most tubeless tires with the optimal amount of sealant (30 ml) in are about the same or just slightly more then the clincher version with a tube. Let’s take the Continental GP 5000 as an example. The measured weight of the clincher version on bicyclerollingresistance.com is 221 grams vs 295 for the tubeless. That’s 74 grams heavier. 30 grams sealant weighs about 30 grams. So about 104 grams heavier in total. A typical inexpensive butyl inner tube is about 100 to 110 grams. The lightest inner tubes are about 40 grams. So the weight advantage is only 64 grams when using the most expensive and lightest inner tube. When using a regular inner tube, the weight difference is negligible. Let also not forget that the tubeless tire in this example is not the lightest out there. Also bear in mind that tubeless tires have less rolling resistance. On bicyclerollingresistance.com they measured a saving of around 2 watts in favor of the tubeless version. In practice that’s probably going to make a larger difference in overall performance then the slight weight advantage of the clincher system.
@JogBird
5 жыл бұрын
do ppl really have flats that often? i get maybe 1 a season and often zero, and its a 5-10 min job to fix.
@gcntech
5 жыл бұрын
You're lucky!
@enotracoon9244
5 жыл бұрын
How much km you are making in one season ?
@1973honza
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I do only about 2500 km per season (I can ride only on weekends) and last time I had a puncture was 4 or 5 years ago. I'm riding tarmac, gravel and forrest roads. No way I'm investing money and time in tubeless and changing sealant every 3 months. I sounds like such a bother.
@dan_lazaro
5 жыл бұрын
I ride 1000km a month and fingers crossed I'll continue to have little to no flats.
@MrBJPitt
5 жыл бұрын
@@enotracoon9244 10,000kms a season for me, gp4000, schwalbe one, so it's not like I compromise in performance. Punctures are so few and far between, I don't even think I've had one in a year?
@geeheeber
5 жыл бұрын
Could latex sealant mean more than just a ruined jersey for a pro who is allergic? Around 1% of people have a severe latex allergy that could result in an anaphylactic reaction. Epi-pens do fit in a jersey pocket though.
@costasmandylor1565
5 жыл бұрын
Just as in disc brakes, tubeless tires are going to take years to be accepted and become the norm in road cycling. We're a stubborn bunch, especially when it comes to technology that improves our cycling.
@Dr.Schlitz
5 жыл бұрын
I've used road tubeless and I hated it! I spent more time mounting one set of road tubeless tires than I've spent changing flats over the last five years. I'll reconsider when the newer standards become more entrenched.
@benoitdugas745
5 жыл бұрын
You have to try the mavic tubeless 28mm easy to mount
@Armenian
5 жыл бұрын
Tubeless on my road bike saved my ass when i got a double sidewall puncture on my 700x28C tire while on our local drop ride at dusk with no headlamp on a dangerous road. I heard the puncture, pedaled faster to distribute sealant and in a matter of seconds I continued along non-stop back to my car safe and sound. I also race crits on tubeless and love it. Tubes are dead.
@Gabriel-kz6kb
5 жыл бұрын
Pls say "bianki" for Bianchi
@harrylook7810
5 жыл бұрын
Been using road tubeless for a year and here's one reason I won't go back to tubes. On my last Sunday group ride I was feeling great and thinking I would finally finish with the bunch instead of getting dropped on the final climb as usual. About a mile from the start of the climb though, I punctured. My buddy thought I was screwed, but I just kept riding and the puncture sealed. I rode behind my buddy with a big smile on my face, and passed him on the climb, to his absolute astonishment.
@sorenmeyer7347
5 жыл бұрын
I rode the same Raleigh frame as a bike messenger, it's an awesome frame, i love mine.
@indysbike3014
5 жыл бұрын
Tubeless is heaven for me. 5 months and no puncture. The GP5000tl were very easy to put on the rim. In case something goes wrong I have road assistance for 40€/year and they will get me back home.
@Euromanone
5 жыл бұрын
TL is best upgrade I have ever done to my bike...so of course TL is here to stay...now I have been riding 3000 km on the same tire without getting a flat. Yeah, yeah I have had punctures, but they sealed them self!
@nilton61
5 жыл бұрын
I tried touring with tubeless. Never doing that again
@nilton61
5 жыл бұрын
@@bfvcrank9306 Because it just didn't work. On a 5 day/750 km trip I had several severe punctures that the sealant couldn't fix . I had two spares tires with me and used then all and ended up with having to wrap tape around the outside of the last tire just to prevent the sealant blowing out. I just barely reached my final destination. So don't believe the hype! Yes, its a very pleasant ride, light and supple and smaller punctures fix themselves. But when it comes to rides that take you away from home tubeless just dont cut it
@revco196
4 жыл бұрын
I agree with nilton. Have been stranded because of punctures that wouldn’t seal. Tubes work just fine. Plus having to top up sealant and clean out the dried out sealant is a pain. For me tubeless were more trouble than they’re worth. And yet others swear by them. It’s a crazy world.
@albr4
5 жыл бұрын
Finally, Jon bringing sanity and balance to the bike vault, a bike on the non drive side should never be allowed in!
@MrBJPitt
5 жыл бұрын
I don't know, I do love looking at a real nice non drive side. My Fuji SST 1.0 BB86 looks amazing
@RichLovelock
5 жыл бұрын
@@MrBJPitt Agree dude, I prefer looking at mine (the Protos in this week's Vault) from non-drive side 👍🏼 #cleanlines
@MrHockaluger
5 жыл бұрын
Tubeless only for my mtb as my car is always nearby. Clinchers for sure on my road bike. Had tubeless before on my road bike but was forced to use a tube one day when the tire loss air and unseated from the rim after a hard lean on a downhill turn. That was a messy hassle of a tire change that I could've done easily with a normal tube setup. Yeah, I could've made that phone call of shame but that'd be a bit of a hassle for the wife when you're 50 miles out from home.
@robertcullen1199
5 жыл бұрын
Tubeless are pants! I just ripped mine off and gone back to inner tubes. Too messy when you puncture out on the road.. plus you have to go back to a bike shop to get back set up... 👎
@fenderperry
5 жыл бұрын
Robert Cullen I set them up at home.
@paulheelis4798
5 жыл бұрын
Tubeless has become obsolete since the arrival of tubolito innertubes in my opinion.
@davidgeorge9233
5 жыл бұрын
Paul Heelis Was a bit put off at the price, are they that good?
@paulheelis4798
5 жыл бұрын
@@davidgeorge9233 I even have them on my track bike. On the road they are paired to Continental 5000 in 25mm. I find it is a perfect combination. I never punctured much but I tried tubeless for the claimed performance benefits. I feel that with tubolito tubes the ride is more comfortable and possibly faster. And of course, no hassle!
@uomorana71
5 жыл бұрын
Bianchi is pronounced beeanKee , in italian "chi" is pronounced ki
@ssaslavsky
5 жыл бұрын
I've been riding Tubeless for the last 6 years, about 4000 km/year So far, I didn't have to stop for a puncture on my bike in 6 years (I did have to wait for other guys riding clinchers...) The bike flies with 80psi on gravel (28mm tyres), with amazing comfort 25mm 90~95psi is perfect for pavement
@matthewlewis2072
5 жыл бұрын
Bianchi = Bee-an-key!!!!!!!
@Digi20
5 жыл бұрын
Tubeless on MTB or my Gravelbike: absolutely. Lets you use extremely low pressures without the risk of pinchflats, seals up small holes that can happen quite often nicely, and if not perfect, the tire has enough air volume to continue your ride even if not perfectly sealed. on my road bike, i actually dont care that much. a light spare inner tube is not heavy and easily transported, and if changed, it just works without the risk of high pressure sealant blow outs or not-really-air-tight-seals. plus, there are no real skinwall tubeless tires (some are colored, but its not the same as a real cotton vittoria or challenge tire).
@tim6991
5 жыл бұрын
Been riding tubeless MTB for years and this is the third year for me on road tubeless (Mavic UST). I'll never go back!
@osh111
5 жыл бұрын
what happens when u completly trash ur tyre ? :D
@chadklinesteker9673
5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that Coppi uses Columbus Spirit Steel tubing (not Aluminum as mentioned in your aside).
@sariweissbard4960
5 жыл бұрын
I can verify that every part of the metal is magnetic. I have the same frame with the same busted derailleur hanger awaiting a weld job. Columbus Genius steel with carbon fork and stays. Mine is a considerably more beat up example, and I am very excited to get it back on the road this summer. There's not much out there on the brand/Coppi himself, and what I could find I did very much enjoy reading. Maybe John could do a feature/history lesson episode for us about one of cycling's all-time greats.
@chadklinesteker9673
5 жыл бұрын
@@sariweissbard4960 Yeah, my bad, not Spirit (that came later, but kept the teardropish down tube shape) but still a steel frame with carbon fiber stays. In the end it's a nice bike and I'm glad it is being ridden.
@evandarling699
5 жыл бұрын
As described on an old retail website for Coppi Bikes: "Columbus Genius Nivacrom tube set with carbon seat stays".. it was funny because the shop that sold it to me said it couldn't be welded as it was Tange. It magnetized so I brought it to a builder and he welded it up! The guy I bought it from also sold the fork to someone in California 3 months prior. I bought it on Ebay unknowingly from the same guy! So the fork traveled a bit!
@ofeykalakar1
5 жыл бұрын
sari weissbard I had a Columbus tubing Coppi bike from early to mid 70s. Steel frame with Nisi tubular wheels Regina Extra cassette and Campi super record grupo 3T seat post and 3T handlebars. That was my very first bike-that’s the time when you got a punctured tub you fixed the flat and sewed up the tub.
@joebikeguy6669
5 жыл бұрын
Bian-shee? Ch in Italian is pronounced like a K, think chi-(ki)-anti. Yes?
@aklamo
5 жыл бұрын
Yes! Thank you @joseph. Great episode, John, but please pronounce it Bee-any-kee 😊
@jesse-dg8yx
5 жыл бұрын
Didn't know about clincher and tubular, spent a while working out how to remember them. Clincher tire is clinched by the rim Tubular tire contains a tube Tubeless tire is tubeless
@dh7314
5 жыл бұрын
Literally haven't had a puncture in about 4,000 miles on my clinchers.
@Quickdraw811
5 жыл бұрын
I am ordering continental 5000 tubeless in a 28. I’m sold
@pimputo
5 жыл бұрын
This kind of stuff was said when tubeless tires appeared first years ago and appeared to be storming the market and promise magical performances.
@chefnigeltv8580
5 жыл бұрын
Giant is already been in the tubless game homie!!!
@jdmbeaner182
5 жыл бұрын
Tubeless/disk are for Chad's.
@martyjbrown
5 жыл бұрын
As Alex would tell you - if he was still allowed on social media - it's a Deep State conspiracy!
@mattparsons6487
5 жыл бұрын
You keep forgetting Bike of the week!🤦♂️
@ikramidris2386
5 жыл бұрын
THAT DE ROSA! 🔥
@longrider42
5 жыл бұрын
Tubular tires, also called Sew Ups, been around for awhile now. I've seen em peel off rims in really hot weather. I will stick with clinchers.
@matyourin
5 жыл бұрын
When I saw John alone moderating I was 100% sure, EVERY bike would get supernice... no doubt. :) And then that dude cant position his bike correctly for a picture... damn :D
@colinb8327
5 жыл бұрын
gotta say I absolutely love my tubeless tyres, I've fitted them onto both my race bikes and my training and TT bikes. When you get a normal pin hole puncture they seal up 90% of the time, and no they don't spray gunk on your shirt.
@colinb8327
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikemerrill175 how much did you put unit? 😂 I’ve never had it spray that bad, and you should have been running a lower oressure
@colinb8327
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikemerrill175 I’m amazed you had so much mess.
@colinb8327
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikemerrill175 I’m the kinda guy that wouldn’t have laughed at the time, but would have probably joked about missing it on video and being a “money shot” from the safety of the cafe post ride. On the upside it did it’s job, imagine if your front wheel had fully depressurised on a decent at that speed. Makes ya think about safety side of it maintaining the pressure in the wheels.
@colinb8327
3 жыл бұрын
@@mikemerrill175 you too, stay safe. 👍🏻
@JasCar1967
5 жыл бұрын
My road bike has been running a tubeless setup since I built it last year, and when I bought new carbon wheels recently that was one of the main things I looked for when choosing my wheels
@Bendersnatchling
5 жыл бұрын
No. I had tubeless tyres on front and back. Front went flat. Now that one is a Clincher again. Once the back goes flat I will put a Clincher there as well. (GP 5000 TL to GP 5000). The sealant did not work at all. (Schwalbe Tubeless easy set)
@gcntech
5 жыл бұрын
Dang, have you tried other sealants? Were the wheels tubeless compatible? Is your rim tape up to the job and do the valves fit the rim bed well?
@Bendersnatchling
5 жыл бұрын
@@gcntech I've not tried the sealant from Conti. The wheels are new mavic cosmic carbon wheels that are tubeless compatible. They don't need a time tape, yet I followed the recommendation and installed rim tape anyway. The picture is on the tread and would not seal...
@DavidKent0407
5 жыл бұрын
Use a sealant that has microcrystals in it. Simple latex based sealants are not adequate and don't seal holes well enough.
@Bendersnatchling
5 жыл бұрын
@@DavidKent0407 Any suggestions to a specific product?
@veloaddict
5 жыл бұрын
Is "Bianci" a new bike manufacturer? translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=it&tl=en&text=bianchi Maybe this helps, push on the speaker icon.
@gregmoxham2120
5 жыл бұрын
Look cleats have a memory device so your cleats go on perfectly every time. Much better than a setup with templates and lasers!
@InWeCome
5 жыл бұрын
I removed all my body hair, nails, one kidney, foreskin and my nipples. Saved me about 200 grams or 0,025% of total weight. Since weight only accounts for 20% of max V, that means i now go 0,005% faster with the same effort.
@alexanderwendelbo1447
5 жыл бұрын
when will we see Jons garage????
@jade4805
5 жыл бұрын
Well done Jon ! Clinchers will not go away, just like rim brakes will not go away. Tubulars are just too messy and time consuming...."BIANKI, not BIANCHEE" please :-)
@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene
5 жыл бұрын
The downside to clinchers is the weakness of the rim. For powerful riders a tubular is necessary for wheel integrity. For recreational riders I am still waiting for an aluminum wheel, a one piece aluminum wheel including maybe a 4 or 5 spoke aluminum arms (replacing spokes) supporting the rim and obviously the hub body will also be part of the wheel. Heavy, yes, but the wheel will last forever instead of breaking down every 3000 miles with conventional spoked wheel. For recreational riding we don't need light wheels, we need dependable wheels which I have not gotten since I began racing 50 years ago. I may have to design my own and have it CNC'ed, then test them out for longevity.
@harrymurphey2634
4 жыл бұрын
... when I upgraded from my 1986 Schwinn World Sport and purchased a new Domane 5.2 I did (2) things ... I ordered it w/ a "triple" up front and I had Tubeless Tires installed. I had several flats while riding and was tired of fixing them in the middle of a ride. I have never "second guessed" those decisions!!! I have had several small punctures that do spray sealant out over the years. (place your thumb over the puncture ... count to 25 ... and it is sealed!!!) The only major issue I had was when I "sliced" a rear tire for over 3/4", it tried to seal, but I was just 5-6 miles into a "Metric" ... so I called "SAG" ... ( I now volunteer for "SAG" at least once a year!!!) But that taught me that w/ Tubeless tires you need to carry a "Valve Stem Tool" because the sealant blocks up the valve at low pressures, so you need to remove the valve stem valve so the tire will be completely "flat" w/ no pressure to break the "bead". And I do carry "patches" and a spare tube (that I have lent to my friends more then once!!! w/ tubed tires) I use Bontrager R2"s currently ... a really nice tire and "sticks" in the rain amazingly well. A couple of years ago I upgraded to Bontrager RXL rims and took another 1-1 1/2 lbs of spinning weight off ... AMAZING difference !!! ( I ride in Pennsylvania w/ the WORST roads in USA, so I'm not going to upgrade to Carbon rims, (1) good pot-hole and I have just spent $2000+.) When I wear these tires out I will upgrade to Bontrager R3's (20g's lighter/tire) and also replace my seat w/ a new 150g model (currently mine is 300g's) and my Domane 5.2 will be approximently 16 1/2 - 16 3/4 lbs ... I would like to have a "Disc" Domane .... BUT ... I WILL NOT GIVE UP MY TRIPLES!!! My legs just do not like Compact Doubles!!! When I need a slight cadence change when my legs cramp ... or going up a major climb ... the compact double doesn't work for my +63yr legs ... Somebody needs to explain this to the manufactures!!!! if they want to sell me a new bike ... and I'm not alone in this feeling !!!
@alastairstedman7840
5 жыл бұрын
You guys rolling around with tubes made from cement? 110g you mad bro? Conti 700c Race Lites are only 70g a tube. And if you are a racer and have yourselves a racing only wheelset like me. Then you probably end up running latex tubes. Vredstein Latex tubes at 50g a piece. Conti GP4000 25's at 215g a piece + 2 50g tubes you running at 530g. GP5000TLR 215g + 60g sealant per tire. 550g. Nothing in it weight wise. But a tubular or Clincher + Latex still has better rolling resistance. Until tubeless can roll as good as Latex+Clincher or tubular it wont catch on.
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