Why did KZitem recommend this to me? A few minutes in, and you all admit that you didn't watch the opening ceremony? I did, granted I fast forwarded a lot of the slower bits since only noobs watch live. In context, this tableaux or whatever they called it obviously evoked an ancient Greek bacchanal or something. Turns out it was a specific reference to Dionysus, the Greek god of wine so I pretty much got the reference. Now, in the following days it's suddenly a reference to "The Last Supper"? Talk about searching for something to be offended about. Yeesh.
@Gernot66
Ай бұрын
resp. roman Bacchus, and what might have Leonardo imagined, resp. had satisfied his customer because that was more important as what is to see that the scumbag could see himself as a holy one.
@ronan9804
Ай бұрын
Perhaps KZitem is trying to help you escape whatever echo chamber you’ve lodged your algorithm into. In an attempt to diversify your thought so you can contribute meaningful thoughts to the world.
@tessabowers3496
Ай бұрын
@@ronan9804 yeah solving echo chambers with religion 🤣🤣
@ronan9804
Ай бұрын
@@tessabowers3496 I think that’s a fairly ridiculous simplification of religion, particularly one as open as Christianity in this context. Sure there are many religious people who fit into what you’re hinting at, but I think the gentlemen in this video aren’t as they are openly discussing sensitive topics and sharing their opinions with any and all audiences. My issue with the above comment is that he is implying it shouldn’t have showed up into is recommended AT ALL, indicating he would prefer to have not seen, hence the echo chamber. Where foreign or differing opinions don’t exist, I would argue for Christians, it is quite the contrary as most Christians actively question and continue to discuss the meanings of their holy text, hence bible study or bible discussions. I would not classify this as an echo chamber. Hoping KZitem doesn’t show stuff you’d be bothered by so you only see things you agree with is an echo chamber.
@austincarter5691
Ай бұрын
@@ronan9804why don't you or the channel hosts that liked your comment respond to the substance of the criticism? This is a historically ignorant and uninformed (they didn't watch the ceremony) opinion. It has superficial overlap with the last supper but has nothing to do with mocking Christians.
@dpilcher
Ай бұрын
I don’t know why any religion is off limits from parody or pop culture adaptation. The drag queens didn’t persecute you or Christianity as a whole. They reenacted a painting of “the last supper” pretty sure Jesus and his apostles didn’t sit on one side of a long table for the Passover Seder. Just be secure in your faith and be cool. Jesus said love thy neighbor, and pay no mind to those who would make fun of you or your faith, AKA, turn the other cheek.
@lilyachernik942
Ай бұрын
Exactly. It's laughable
@richardbug3094
Ай бұрын
like to see you have this same attitude with islam
@austincarter5691
Ай бұрын
@@richardbug3094French people famously have this attitude with Islam. Also this is a reference to the art that inspired the last supper and the Greek myths that are also part of Olympic history. Not a reference to the last supper. It's a reference to Bacchus and the traditional depiction of Dionysus. But I'm sure you don't care and didn't know that.
@amoliski
Ай бұрын
@@richardbug3094 Do you remember Charlie Hebdo? It was a French newspaper that was a victim of a firebombing, a shooting, and a stabbing over their depictions of Muhammad...
@dpilcher
17 күн бұрын
@@richardbug3094 don’t worry I do have the same attitude
@the.dirt.man.
Ай бұрын
While they should’ve been aware of how the imagery would have been perceived, didn’t the committee say it was a depiction of the feast of Dionysus? A completely different historic myth?
@nameandaddresswithheld1890
Ай бұрын
They weren't dressed like or even posed like the people in the last supper.
@ImTellingGodAboutThis
Ай бұрын
That’s the whole point, it’s poorly executed at best and gaslighting at its worst, the parallel is clear on its face. If you need to release a statement to clarify what it was intended to be then you are already wrong.
@nameandaddresswithheld1890
Ай бұрын
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis Nobody here is upset about The Olympics being obtuse. The Guys at Midnight's Edge have their panties in a bunch because the Olympics dated to chritisize their religion. Somehow I doubt they have any problems with the inherently blasphemous premise of Bayonetta. Could they be grifting 🤔
@tessabowers3496
Ай бұрын
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis No it wasn't poorly executed. You're just ignorant.
@nameandaddresswithheld1890
Ай бұрын
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis Bad communication isn't what the Guy's at Midnight's Edge are upset about. Their tin foil hat theory that the white horse is one of the four horseman of the apocalypse (where are the other three?) makes it clear just like the "woke" they're trying to be offended for clout.
@jontedeakin1986
Ай бұрын
This was not a parody of the last supper. It was a reference to the feast of dionysis???
@ImTellingGodAboutThis
Ай бұрын
The parallel is clear on its face. If you need to release a statement to clarify what it was intended to be then you are already wrong.
@flamesintheattic
Ай бұрын
It doesn't matter what the intent of the ceremony was.. by their own stupid rules if you perceive it as offensive, your feelings are valid and must be respected. The hypocrisy is palpable.
@nameandaddresswithheld1890
Ай бұрын
So the precious feeling of the Christians should be protected just because they believe in the supernatural? I seriously doubt you would care if a Muslim was offended by an episode of South Park or Family Guy.
@ImTellingGodAboutThis
Ай бұрын
So you are upset because we are offended, or that we shared our opinion? If you disagree then give me something to work with make an argument? Right now it just look like you are just name calling. But hey thanks for watching and leaving a comment!
@soapmode
Ай бұрын
The performance was entitled "La Cène Sur Un Scène Sur La Seine" ("The Last Supper on a Stage on the Seine"), so it absolutely references The Last Supper. And, if the trolls are so keen on a history lesson, they should perhaps review the story of the Trojan Horse.
@ImTellingGodAboutThis
Ай бұрын
Man it’s amazing how truth just cuts through the chaos! I hope you enjoyed the episode, thanks for jumping into the dumpster fire of our comments section.
@tessabowers3496
Ай бұрын
Except it wasn't titled that, there was a news paper that called it that, but no one from the Olympics or the creators of the performance called it that
@soapmode
Ай бұрын
@@tessabowers3496 Except you're completely misinformed, as two of the participants have gone on to confirm that it absolutely was a depiction of the Last Supper. Barbara Butch later deleted her Instagram post, but Piche's comments in La Parisien are there for all to read. The title was widely reported on Twitter, and several other publications.
@tessabowers3496
Ай бұрын
@@soapmode bullshit... source? "widely reported on Twitter" 🤣🤣🤣 If buy publications you mean right wing rags sure. The part you fools miss because your uneducated, is that it was very obviously based on greek mythology.
@soapmode
Ай бұрын
@@tessabowers3496 Calling La Parisien a right wing rag whilst claiming to be educated; you're almost as funny as the palette swapped Santa in that idiotic performance 🥰
@garrettwhite5943
Ай бұрын
The Feast of Dionysus isn't The Last Supper. God, y'all REALLY wanna be oppressed.
@ImTellingGodAboutThis
Ай бұрын
Right, so glad the IOC cleared that up…
@garrettwhite5943
Ай бұрын
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis One thing that's very important to note is that Christian imagery borrows heavily from other sources. Especially artistic renderings. Y'know, like all art does. People call this blasphemy but said nothing when Jim Caviezel was struck by lightning twice during the filming of Passion. Clearly God has his opinions on what is and is not considered poor taste.
@ronan9804
Ай бұрын
Imagine if they “accidentally” made a mockery of Muhammad, or any other religious figure outside of Christianity. It would be chaos on a grand scale.
@tessabowers3496
Ай бұрын
people mock Muhammad all the time. stop being a snowflake. The only reason you feel mocked is your own ignorance of other cultures
@amoliski
Ай бұрын
You mean like the French newspaper Charlie Hebdo famously did?
@rauldjvp3053
Ай бұрын
Philippe Katerine painted in blue to portray Dionysius makes grown men cry Because he’s chill, he says that’s good, that if we all had the same positive opinion there would be boredom on Earth, a new fascism.
@thatguylangum
Ай бұрын
Why not make christian olympics where christians can go and out christian each other?
@nameandaddresswithheld1890
Ай бұрын
Modt of These self righteous crybabies didn't even watch the thing they're covering in this video.
@ImTellingGodAboutThis
Ай бұрын
Josh watched it live, the others saw the clips because they live in the US.
@nameandaddresswithheld1890
Ай бұрын
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis Then why does he have to keep explaining to them what happened?
@ImTellingGodAboutThis
Ай бұрын
They didn’t watch the whole ceremony so he is providing the context for the subject of the video.
@plepun
Ай бұрын
no one here knows nothing about greek history or mythology whatsoever imagine thinking it's all about you that's crazy
@ImTellingGodAboutThis
Ай бұрын
lol two of us can read Ancient Greek, and you are correct it’s about you and the God of the universe you seem to be ok with mocking. We’re just here to help :) thanks for commenting!
@dang1099
Ай бұрын
Right, these people are juat weird..
@hexapon133
Ай бұрын
Imagine thinking that this wasn't a slight of hand to try and mock religion by the disgusting hyper prog French
@amoliski
Ай бұрын
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis He's the God of the universe. If He thought He was being mocked, wouldn't he have just dropped a lightning bolt on the whole display? Made their river run red with blood? Maybe a swarm of locusts and some first born infanticide? He doesn't need you fighting His battles for Him.
@Sola_Scriptura_1.618
28 күн бұрын
Tell us you are not ignorant, without telling us you are not! You can ignore God, but you will not be able to ignore his final judgment!
@NobodysFaultPodcast
29 күн бұрын
I listened to the first 10 seconds of this video and subscribed!
@Jukestar
Ай бұрын
This video showed up in my recommended. While I don't have the time to watch this, I do think that all religions should be respected as long as the doctrine promotes peace. As an agnostic, whenever people mock religions like this, it really rubs me the wrong way; it causes unnecessary tension between others. Don't fall for the division; stay united as a people.
@isaiahwynn2110
Ай бұрын
Or maybe don’t be such a huge wiener. They weren’t mocking Christianity, but if they were, so what?
@Revanite88
Ай бұрын
You see all the evil Religion causes yet we should respect it?
@nameandaddresswithheld1890
Ай бұрын
You think Christianity promotes peace? Do you have ANY idea how many people have been slaughtered in Jesus's name? The Vatican aides and a better the Nazis. (Most members of the original NAZI party were Catholic) The terrorist mod that attacked our nations capital at Trump command were Christians.
@Altzar2011
Ай бұрын
What a bunch of snowflakes lmao
@ImTellingGodAboutThis
Ай бұрын
Thanks for leaving a comment!
@Andrew-wz6ss
Ай бұрын
I didn’t know Jesus was blue
@ImTellingGodAboutThis
Ай бұрын
I see what you did there 🙃
@thesextalk
Ай бұрын
Talk to your kids about sex!
@CosplayEternity
Ай бұрын
This is a great episode. I think a lot of Christians are wondering what they can or should do to push back on this.
@Cybersword1910
Ай бұрын
Probably move on from like it's never that serious 😅
@takoja507
Ай бұрын
Well they need to learn history for first. It's was feast of Dyoneses from ancient Greek stories. You could say that last supper painting is copying that feast. So history lessons would be great starts. And second is that who the fuck cares if your religion is mocked, it deserves it as do all religions. Adults thinking the stories and myths are real and true, that's worth of mockery. It doesn't matter if you get offended by it, so be it. Learn to grown up!
@Enkidoo
Ай бұрын
@takoja507 I'd feel that way if those ceremonies weren't claiming to be "inclusive". Or does 'inclusivity' somehow preclude honesty?
@AnnSmajstrla
Ай бұрын
No one is forcing you to watch. Turn off the Olympics and put on the 700 Club or Sound of Freedom or something.
@ImTellingGodAboutThis
Ай бұрын
Yea I agree, I haven’t watched the Olympics since the opening ceremony’s. It still doesn’t change the fact that what they did was shameful.
@sheepnick1
Ай бұрын
An excellent conversation with really practical calls to action!
@Cybersword1910
Ай бұрын
First Olympics in the "wait I'm offended era"
@videomanager5433
Ай бұрын
I think your channel avatar is AI generated, shame on you
@ImTellingGodAboutThis
Ай бұрын
It is, not sure why that is a bad thing.
@DonRobertson-v4s
Ай бұрын
The fear of the lord is the beginning of Obedience. The Bible is all about obedience not morality. When Adam and Eve ate from the tree they became moral beings quote now they know the difference between god and evil end quote. The more I listened the more I realized you are trying to justify your prejudices by adopting an ideology that lets you hate people that are different.
@dang1099
Ай бұрын
Fear? What is this stalinist Russia? Damn, your god must be terrible.
@tomfoolery5844
Ай бұрын
Cry about it
@ImTellingGodAboutThis
Ай бұрын
Podcasting is more fun.
@tomfoolery5844
Ай бұрын
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis then why is the podcast an hour of ya’ll crying about it?
@ImTellingGodAboutThis
Ай бұрын
Why do I have a feeling you watched about 3 minutes of it?
@tomfoolery5844
Ай бұрын
@@ImTellingGodAboutThis of course not, it was simply so entertaining and intellectually engaging that I couldn’t rip myself from the screen 😂😂😂
@ProvenMinistries
Ай бұрын
excellent episode gentleman!
@revstevencabbott
Ай бұрын
I really appreciate what you had to say about people forgetting and disregarding the fact that our society was built on Judeo-Christian tradition and values. We need to continue to live out the gospel and speak the truth in love. "Not throwing stones at lost people" as you said, but standing for truth in our sphere of influence through catechising our children, leading our homes, and getting involved in our democratic process.
@krigherren6985
Ай бұрын
From the 1796 Treaty of Tripoli signed by John Adams, read in full on the senate floor and was unanimously recommended for ratification by the senate. "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims); and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan (Mohammedan) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."
@dpilcher
Ай бұрын
I don’t know why any religion is off limits from parody or pop culture adaptation. The drag queens didn’t persecute you or Christianity as a whole. They reenacted a painting of “the last supper” pretty sure Jesus and his apostles didn’t sit on one side of a long table for the Passover Seder. Just be secure in your faith and be cool. Jesus said love thy neighbor, and pay no mind to those who would make fun of you or your faith, AKA, turn the other cheek.
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