Love the video dave! Greggs will never be the same again. Im working my way through my necron army pretty consistently, I do have a mini pipe of shame infront of me, but nothing too intimidating! Appreciate the advice!
@MSPaints
Жыл бұрын
Pile of previously well intentioned purchases is a term I hope to get over in the future. No shame in surrounding yourself with stuff you love. A pile of shame should be a term reserved for laundry and dirty plates! Big love, enjoy your hobbying!
@beamer2267
Жыл бұрын
@@MSPaints oh… in that case I have a HUGE PILE of laundry shame hahaha!
@MSPaints
Жыл бұрын
@@beamer2267 damn. That didn’t work to reassure you like I hoped it would!
@tuvaaq
Жыл бұрын
@@MSPaints the telegram scammers are spamming your channel mate. Might want to warn your viewers in a future vid as some people do get suckered in by these fake giveaways.
@tuvaaq
Жыл бұрын
@@GerryG91100 they tell you, you've won a prize but insist on payment for the shipping costs up front and some fall for it.
@challums8250
Жыл бұрын
Definitely had an extended patch where the hobby became a habit that was more about the buying than any of the rest of it. Finding my way back to enjoyment of building, painting and playing lately though.
@MSPaints
Жыл бұрын
Glad you found your way back to the zen zone!
@Mikey__R
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, same here. For a while, my hobby was tracking down and buying New On Sprue models off of eBay. The endorphin spike of winning a Sunday evening auction became quite an addiction. I've still got most of those sprues, packed up in moving boxes. Turns out no one else wanted to buy them off me, so now I'm stuck with them.
@Mikey__R
Жыл бұрын
Turns out a bargain still costs money.
@DRjexmoJDM
Жыл бұрын
Feel ya bro I ended up just buying one blister (single model) pack a fortnight and even then I'm behind haha
@sasserine
Жыл бұрын
One strategy I've decided on, to avoid or reduce the pile of shame, is to move toward figure-agnostic games. That allows you to use a smaller collection of figures, in multiple games. It also allows you to jump straight into a new game, without the delay that often kills the momentum.
@GeneJordan
Жыл бұрын
This is a great philosophical topic for the hobbyist. Sometime within the last few years, I decided to start calling my collection of unpainted models my "Pile of Opportunities". This change has been vital for my mental health and inspiration for painting more models that I already own, more often than not. This mental process allows me to enjoy the experience and the journey of the hobby instead of seeing it as a chore that needs to be completed. It's a reward and escape for getting my work and chores done each day. I've been involved in this hobby since 1990 and turned 53 earlier this year. I have learned where to draw the line at which games I will play and which factions I'll play in them. This limits the models I'll buy quite a bit. Occasionally, I have purchased a model (or a set) just because I want to paint it, especially now that I have an airbrush. I've already had to get creative about where to store the unpainted and painted models for display, safekeeping, or transporting. If I don't have every model I've purchased over the years painted by the time I leave this earth, I've left instructions in my will for my family members to sell the unpainted models through a local FLGS and donate the proceeds to a favorite charity (minus a cut and first dibs for the store owner for sorting the inventory out). I've also left instructions to donate the painted models, paint sets, brushes, terrain, materials, & whatever models don't sell to a local private high school gaming club. Once that process was in place, I became more free to buy whatever set or model I want, within reason, while I'm still breathing, sharing, teaching, creating, painting, and kicking dirt in this life.
@samcross3400
2 ай бұрын
Very relatable, helpful, sage advice. Sell things you cannot or will not use. If you’re going to invest in something make sure your heart is really in it, I wanted all the 2nd edition metal genestealer cult sculpts 20yrs ago, I want them now, and I have them, although they haven’t yet been painted, one day the ancient prophecy of my boyhood will be fulfilled.
@noops9220
Жыл бұрын
I’ve found selling discarded projects even at a loss helped clear up my hobby
@MSPaints
Жыл бұрын
That’s a good way of doing it! Something I’ll touch on in a later video I think. Thanks for the reminder!
@guywhosonlyplayedyumenikki
Ай бұрын
Here with an update from the future, we had a new flgs open in my area and day one they had all of the 40k magic the gathering decks on the shelves. Never let fomo get you!
@MSPaints
Ай бұрын
It’s always false scarcity! Apart from the times it’s real!
@drewbakka5265
Жыл бұрын
Buy a model on aestetics Rules change, a great sculpt will look good on your shelf forever
@weatherthis8062
Жыл бұрын
Some great advice mate, I recently made the discovery myself that I was just buying stuff because I thought that will be really cool to build one day. Now I have a cupboard full and still the same small amount of time I get every week to hobby, If I don't buy any more I should be done by 2050 😂.
@walstafa
Жыл бұрын
I'm definitely feeling the Pile of Shame at the moment. I'm a fast painter but I need to be in the mood and I haven't always been feeling it at the moment.
@CHUBBS182
Жыл бұрын
My pile of shame is currently the thing bringing me joy. I fell out of the hobby when I was about 14-15 and where ever I’ve gone in life, I’ve had to carrying around this collection of models I’ve had since I was a child. At points I never had any intention of picking it back up but was too scared of selling my models. They retained their sentimental value the entire time. The pandemic like it did for many, gifted me free time I usually wouldn’t have and over the last few years, especially with the rise of war gaming content on KZitem, it’s been a growing interest in me so when that free time became available, I picked up the hobby again and I’m loving it. I’m now 31, the stuff I’m painting isn’t a complete mess (which is partly why I gave up as a kid), and I’m slowly getting through all this sixth edition WH and even bits and bobs that my dad and uncle handed down from the early 90’s. I’m trying to hold myself to the challenge of getting through as much of what I already have before I buy anything new. The only new stuff I’ve bought is a pack of GW skulls! I am very tempted however to start a nurgle army, so maybe this is where buying too much begins for me haha
@marcjohnson5991
Жыл бұрын
I bought space rangers from Virgin Megatore in Sheffield back when they had random piles of miniatures inc. Battletech and very old Aliens
@MSPaints
Жыл бұрын
Barely remember that! Must be where my dad got them from back in the day.
@marcjohnson5991
Жыл бұрын
@@MSPaints They were from a time when GW and Beatties were all I knew about the hobby. Probably mid 90s. In the Sheffield store, it was downstairs (which had a kinda industrial aesthetic), hidden round the corner from the metal. Which pretty much explains my teen years.
@Tochir0
Жыл бұрын
We need more messages like this. F- the ‘new thing’. Slow and steady is the way to go. I’m slowly chipping away at the Dominion box set for $99.
@graymansolutions6195
Жыл бұрын
You need to see the guy Angry Badger Minis first video...just...whoa. He has been collecting for years, just because, not meta chasing.
@tuvaaq
Жыл бұрын
#3 FOMO is real! I'm only into Middle Earth Strategy Battle and with all their limited time "Made To Order" releases you either cough up the dough or wait several years for it to come around again.
@SimonMoston
Жыл бұрын
So much FOMO... What can men do against such reckless business practices?
@tuvaaq
Жыл бұрын
@@SimonMoston I can't really cast too much shade on GW for this as MESBG is pretty niche and it's probably not good business sense to fill a warehouse with 19 different versions of Gandalf. Still, sucks for those that can't afford to drop 💷on the hobby at short notice.
@SimonMoston
Жыл бұрын
@@tuvaaq Well then, I'll cast shade for the both of us. I've been wanting to run a Grand Army of the South legion since the Gondor supplement dropped, and I really wanted some camels. No-one should have to wait 3 years for camels to return to rotation. And yes, I'm broke after last weeks range rotation haha.
@tuvaaq
Жыл бұрын
@@SimonMoston when you put it like that I guess it is sh!tty. I don't play, just been collecting Quest of the Ringbearer models and the narrative sculpts that have no impact on the game but yeah I'd be pissed if had to wait on rotation to put together a force for the tabletop or pay scalper prices on eBay.
@UntiltedName
Жыл бұрын
This last year when I got the itch to buy a kit I instead got out something in my backlog. By October or so I had cleared out all the most useful things in my backlog to the point where it was mostly 1 off, single figure models and some historical kits. It helps when you aren't interested in playing multiple armies. It also helps to understand the difference between what's actually going to have a presence on table top, and what is just engaging in retail therapy. The former is tough for newer dudes to know.
@nicholashurst780
5 ай бұрын
An old gamer's recommendation to newer players: start a gaming club (not necessarily a formal one like y'all have in the UK and Europe, just a group with a regularly scheduled gameday) that plays a previous edition of the game. Doesn't matter if you're playing 40K 2e or 9e, as long as it is a discontinued edition. You don't have to worry about the meta changing every three months if your last gamebook was published during the Bush administration.
@undeadmusky
Жыл бұрын
I've been selling tons of my POS on Ebay lately and even dipped into some of my painted stuff. My hobby space had become a beacon of misery to me as opposed to a source of joy and inspiration. Now that I'm getting closer to manageable I'm trying to buy on pace with my paint production (and failing gloriously cue the cycle).
@BBolloBB
Жыл бұрын
Tony Destaffano add break in perpetual forward motion advert is always a treat
@SSecret_Hugz
Жыл бұрын
I been binging your content and commenting on vids from the past 3-6 months today. Dude, love your content. Your outlook is so refreshing. I think i've figured out my balance.For me, to stay building and painting across the board consistently. I have to be working on something that peaks my interest at the time
@SSecret_Hugz
Жыл бұрын
Right now, my wife is about to have brain surgery in the next two weeks. She's been dealing with metastatic brain cancer for 8yrs.
@SSecret_Hugz
Жыл бұрын
Painting mini's and building PLAMO/modelling in general has brought my entire family together. I also find the building theraputic.
@MSPaints
Жыл бұрын
For real, man. It's advice i need to heed, myself tbh. If i could make as fast as i bought i'd be happy... exhausted... but happy.
@TheHobbyCorner
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Everything you've said has passed my thoughts at some point in the hobby. But I won't lie to myself. It's an addiction. And all the things we couldn't buy as kids because of money we can now as adults. Sometimes. You know. Because bills and kids are also expensive 😅
@LordMagiru
Жыл бұрын
My biggest hobby regret was allowing myself to get roped into playing a CCG. That was a lot of cash that could have been a pile of old models to go with my other pile of even older models because I still have almost everything I bought as a teenager and young adult.
@gouki4u
Жыл бұрын
I went a little (a lot) overboard when I got into 40K. I collected four full armies (Space Wolves, Blood Angels, Orks, and Eldar) before I realized I would never be able to paint them all, and my plan to have a fieldable army from every faction was bonkers.
@atomicjesus69
Жыл бұрын
7:00 This false scarcity that started with Indomitus and the Sisters box is what pushed me out of the hobby for over a year. If I had to get up hours early before work to join in the F5 war to *maybe* get their product then they weren't getting my business. The benefit to coming back recently is I've sorted all of my pile of shame and am slowly painting things since the original hype I had has faded
@deansalmon1773
Жыл бұрын
Strange I thought I was the winner. Looks like a scam to me
@lhiannan02
Жыл бұрын
I've got a decent pile of potential sat there! I have a lot I want to paint, but fortunately none is GW. I do like to break things up with painting busts as they are a whole different scale and challenge.
@MSPaints
Жыл бұрын
Nice! Been thinking of tackling a bust but never have the time to sit and learn them things!
@lukepooler6155
Жыл бұрын
I only recently started in the warhammer hobby, but I have noticed that it really helps if your buying what you think is personally cool. For example I was gifted a boxes of adeptus mechanicus and I just couldnt bring myself to finish painting them, not because i didn't like the models, but because it felt like a choir to paint them
@brianhall4182
Жыл бұрын
Same with me and Necrons. I bought a 40k Recruit box when I started and painted up the Marines lickiy split. They were a lot of fun. Then I moved onto the Necrons and... enjoyed it a lot less. I had to force myself to get through them and wound up going for a rusty, grimy paint scheme because it meant I could get them done quicker. So I rather quickly discovered the Necrons were not for me.
@strongbif
Жыл бұрын
Shadowvaults just turned up in the mail halfway through this video. I haven't finished painting Octarius. Impeccable timing!
@MWR40K
Жыл бұрын
When I started again (previously I was 2nd Edition) it was to capture that old nostalgia. Planned on a couple Terminators and a Land Raider. Couple years on I have 8 unpainted display armies with the entirety of a built in bookcase filled with models. I am near the end of the buying part (once the World Eaters stuff comes out) but if I were to paint 1 model every day, I’d be over 2 years before I am finished. Thankfully I’m at the point now as well where there is genuinely nothing else in the range that I want/need, and if I do get anything new it will be to replace anything that gets made cooler looking in future editions.
@dustinasche
Жыл бұрын
I hobbied years ago in my teens and 20's and at the time I couldn't financially afford to get too deep into the hobby, so it was rarely an issue. I recently jumped back into the hobby after an extended hiatus and definitely went a bit too all in, overestimating my free time and energy, and now have a closet filled with boxes of unpainted minis for 3-4 armies, and maybe 1k points actually fully painted.
@sarahdisco-dolly1150
Жыл бұрын
I'm an oldie that came back to the hobby after a 17 year gap, but this time I had cash, so went deep and now I'm surrounded by this stuff! The past year was going well until I fell for the HH box, a game I don't play! It was shiny, had marines, nice books, I was in......but I have held back.....I've got to sell some stuff....
@oakfoot3043
Жыл бұрын
Oooh, your sound, the quality has improved, either a new mic set up or the little tunnel you’ve so wonderfully framed yourself in! 😍
@TomMullins
Жыл бұрын
We all need a mate who will bring you back a sausage roll
@MSPaints
Жыл бұрын
Asked for un sausage roll, received dos sausage rolls. That’s a true friend!
@jonesfigures
Жыл бұрын
Hey man, you put some respect on SPACE RANGERS! 🤘🤨 I had that box and it was 100% serviceable still have a couple odd weapons/ backpacks that keep turning up in my bits...I'd kill for like 5 of them to proper paint nowadays ...thanks for the memory!
@geteavnroc2250
Жыл бұрын
To date, this is the best video on this subject matter. You didn't 'shame' the practice of owning a pile of opportunity, like the others did. Thank you!
@user-ko3tv7jl2r
Жыл бұрын
Personally, my pile is a 'pile of opportunity', it makes me happy knowing I'll paint them at some point (even at times I'm buying things faster than I paint them).
@user-ko3tv7jl2r
Жыл бұрын
Mind you, my thing is old-herohammer models or styles of models, not the new thing...
@broodicus1
Жыл бұрын
Quick little tip for Games Workshop products, if its still in a saleable (unopened) condition then just take back and part exchange the box for something you want!!! Stuff they don't sell anymore they may not do but current models they will! I found loads of unopened models and paints I never used and swapped them for my Beast of Chaos army!!! A great way of getting rid of models you don't want or never going to use and get something you do!!!
@andreasburman
Жыл бұрын
Agree on miniatures, I’m also collecting limited edition black library novels and those you kinda have to buy on release since they sell out in < 5min.
@MunitionsDudTester
Жыл бұрын
I got into warhammer when I was about 14 years old or so. I read a couple omnibus when I was in high-school and saw some good ol' Duncan painting videos but never had the money to get into it. Went straight into the military out of high-school and never had the space to paint or keep models. Fast forward to the present day minus a couple years and you can imagine my "pent-up hobby rage". Pretty sure I spent close to $1,000 within the first month (mostly on paint and tools/supplies). I now have a small'ish pile of shame and it used to bug me a lot because I watched a lot of videos before making purchases and swore to "never be that guy". After revisiting the thought it doesn't bother me anymore that I have a bunch of random models and no proper army to show for it. I bought the models I did because I thought they were rad and I really enjoy the assembly and painting process. It is like therapy in a way. Also, my small pile of shame helps reign me in on purchases because I know I have 5 or so boxes of models that still need to be painted so I don't feel a "need" on anything other than something I've already been looking forward to.
@theshizzen3988
3 ай бұрын
A great danger of overbuying for me is when I find something really cool, like a film, a show or a book and think, that would be a cool miniature project. I just made a list of all projects I want to do. Oh boy. I do have to up my output if I want to get it done before I'm 80 😂 moving all boxes of plastic crack to the basement helped with the mental load of it. I have now only the stuff I currently working on in my hobby space. Also sometimes I think of some kits and boxes just as kitbashing potential and I'm fine with never actually building it. But overbuying is defenitley an issue in our hobby.😅
@saltfreegamer
Жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. Tony's ad spots are the best, the only SS ads I watch. The thing that helped reel in my hobby acquisition rate was 3rd party rules. When the folks selling you the rules are not the same folks selling you the minis, a lot of the false urgency goes away.
@lordshadowbolt
Жыл бұрын
Good commentary mate. If I could add one more it would this this - you do not need every single item to start, enjoy or complete a hobby project. You can have just as much fun with 5 paints and two models as you can with paints and models. Plus if you don't wait you'll get more done and improve faster anyway.
@lootpigeon
Жыл бұрын
Interesting topic! I’ve found myself in an interesting place with buying things. I got back into the hobby when my partner bought me silver tower as I loved old warhammer quest. Being out of the hobby so long I though, hmm don’t want to mess these models up so I should practice first - well here we are 5 years later and I still haven’t painted that box but I do have other boxes for days. I did start painting some of my purchase up but I’m not going to lie some of it fills me with dread - I love sw legion and went bananas when they where on offer and have 4 core boxes, the running joke being the mould lines in that og core box being horrendous - 3-4 days of mould line removal. Not looking forward to putting those together 😅 I should have gone slower but hey, everyone has a bad day and thinks hmmm that will definitely give me something to do and cheer me up!
@tommymclaughlin-artist
Жыл бұрын
I'm mainly just a spectator in "the hobby" so I don't really buy models and stuff, but I can relate because I buy WAY more art supplies than I have time to use them.
@alritchie2162
Жыл бұрын
Great vid!! Looks like you’re in a mini version of Lendal Cellars!! That would be a great painting location…😂 🍺
@MSPaints
Жыл бұрын
Lucked out with this place! Lots of character!
@ravenna99
Жыл бұрын
hmmm games nights at the cellars would be awesome
@xcumulusx
Жыл бұрын
great video, my first army was fantasy high elf, 500-600 points .... then i got a cheap high elf army from ebay for 100 € and its was a 5000 point army i was drowning in miniature´s after that i was smart enough getting slower. greetings from austria
@EternalQuestion
Жыл бұрын
About 3 years ago now I made the decision to minimise any future purchases and start working through my (pretty huge) pile of shame instead. I made myself a rule that if I do buy something new, I have to paint it right away, so it doesn't go on the pile of shame. I've actually made pretty decent progress through my pile and it feels good to see the pile of grey models going down and the display case filling up.
@patrickt2746
Жыл бұрын
Go easy on those classic Space Ranger models! I got a box of those when I was a wee lad to try to learn to paint. And now my 7yo daughter practices painting on the ones I still have laying around. 😂
@flamingopie
Жыл бұрын
I've bought, and then later sold at a slight loss, two starter armies without any real attempt at painting/assembling them
@Lillith_Gram
Жыл бұрын
I got back into Gundam earlier this year and definitely overbought a bit. I mean, my backlog is only 30 kits so that isn't too bad. The biggest issue for me though was that I started getting extra stuff to customise my kits and then I stopped wanting to build them unless I already had the extra parts. This led to me not building things because I was worried I wouldn't do it justice. Sort of like buying that big Warhammer kit but then never painting it because you are afraid you'll screw up the paint job. Come to think of it, I also got the big 2 player Conquest box at the start of the pandemic along with extras and I haven't even taken the bubble wrap off... After watching this, I think I might go and build a Gundam right now, so cheers for the motivation.
@andrewpackham8236
Жыл бұрын
A double edged sword is bulk buying an army second hand. On the plus side you can get crazy discounts, but on the negative side you are committing to painting a whole force that is realistically going to be lots of similar stuff.
@johnhollick3733
Жыл бұрын
I gave up on 'chasing the Dragon' with GW over a year ago. However, I now chase BT minis, Dead Man's Hand and various boxes from Wargames Atlantic. It's a process, progress, but still chasing.
@malefic5254
Жыл бұрын
I paced myself at first, but being pretty good at painting from the outset got me way too excited to do it and I started hunting around for deals, ended up with more models than I know what to do with. I've since dialed my spending WAY down in favor of building and painting what I have ( I don't generally have the time to play games, I've still yet to play a single game of warhammer or even killteam) and the other stuff I do to chill out.
@quercus2949
Жыл бұрын
I just plummeted into the ocean of airbrushing kit, I guess at least it's a tool I can use again and again. I try to divert what I would spend on the constant slew of new plastic into hobby materials, as at least then I know it could be used at any moment in a creative sense. Love your video's btw!
@spaceiguana5066
Жыл бұрын
I recently did a huge purge from my Kings of War and Warhammer backlogs. I don't even play WH anymore, so sold off all of it. For Kings of War, I consolidated to just 2 mega armies (ratkin and Brotherhood but using Bretonnians). Tempted to cut down one of those as well. The Bretonnians would stretch a long way for a hobby budget down the road. I don't even know if I'd get them all painted given the desire to try to freehand and do patterns...
@myzri3557
Жыл бұрын
Ya I got in hard. At the time I was newly free of my parents, and was making WAY more $ than I needed. A friend returned from the military with a small space marines army all painted and pretty. Next day I went to a GW store and lost my mind, so many choices and all so cool. Ended up falling in love with both the Eldar and their evil siblings. I ended up with so much stuff, a GW staff member had to help bring it to the car. I bet I painted less than a quarter of it before I moved across the country. I ended up giving it all to the local charity kids hang out, and haven't touched a mini since (almost 20 years now).
@andyconnell7432
Жыл бұрын
I look forward to your forthcoming video on railway scenics. Keep up the good work.
@LogHeadGaming
Жыл бұрын
I bought some 28mm miniatures got a tiny bit in over my head building so I switched to painting the few metal models I had and fell in love with metal. I switched to 15mm I don't have to build anymore I just paint base and play.
@davidlunn3800
Жыл бұрын
Really interesting subject and one I hadn't really thought about. I know for me I should not have gotten back into Warhammer when I did as I went all out on a Bretonian army, 6 weeks later they nerfed the line at the beginning of AoS. However it did lead back to the hobby and good friends so not a total issue.
@ZarMationStudios18
Жыл бұрын
I still struggle with pacing my purchases XD I've been sitting on built models for years and only recently got back into the hobby because I got a new friend into the game. They jumped head-first into it - two combat patrols, two codexes, and a unit of Elites for both of them - but that inspired me to re-direct my own hobby energies towards terrain so we can have a space to game instead. The old Fantasy Dwarfs and Black Reach Orks I might never pick up again will probably be going to Frontline Gaming, if they still do their used-model trade-ins. That way I'll free up my space for things I have the drive to build, and the old minis will get to be enjoyed again by someone new :)
@jordancole9374
Жыл бұрын
I implemented a paint a unit buy a unit policy a while back. My pile of shame is still large BUT… it hasn’t grown. So that’s a success.
@jbriggsiv
Жыл бұрын
Always happy to see a new video pop up in my queue. Great advice. I particularly like the tip on doing something else when you get bored of a particular thing. I have two armies that I almost always enjoy building, anything orky and my favorite angry AoS trees. So, if I'm working on my 40k sisters army, I like to buy just a single box or units and build it. But, since I'm not great with anything artistic, they are a massive challenge for me to make them "battle ready" enough that I'm not embarrassed to have them on the tabletop. To keep from getting resentful of that army, I'll switch up with a few Sylvaneth models, or something ork/orruk (don't care, I play both games). Trees and orks are much easier for an amateur to feel comfortable with, and both lend themselves wonderfully to kit bashing and storing extra bits for other projects.
@blobbypanda1613
Жыл бұрын
Completely am feeling the pile of shame, bought a Minas Tirith battlehost and an orc combat patrol a few weeks ago. Then I found a Pelennor Fields box set. I have so much stuff to paint. Ahhhhhh!
@ianlolsatyou
Жыл бұрын
found your channel through your first gunpla build! been bingeing your content too. Any thoughts on more gunpla stuff in the future?
@MSPaints
Жыл бұрын
Certainly do mate! Got plenty more kits and secured a perfect grade too! Just gotta switch back to Warhammer for the next few videos to get some numbers back up!
@Nigelius
Жыл бұрын
I got back in to the hobby at the start of lockdown. One of my mums lockdown tasks was sorting out mine and my siblings shit from around their house. She dropped off a couple of toolboxes filled with my old hobby stuff. In it was an unfinished box of 00s era multipart space wolves and necron warriors. lo and behold Indomitus drops with space marines and necrons in the box, cue me buying indomitus and still not finishing it fully to this day because cooler stuff launched in the meantime. To my credit my painting output exceeds my purchasing but 2020 Nige was too busy thinking about how much money he was saving by working from home and bought a silly amount of stuff to counteract it. I will eradicate my pile of shame in time and switch to a “no grey plastic” policy before purchasing more stuff. To new hobbyists I’d definitely recommend only buying new projects after existing ones are finished, having a pile of shame saps the fun out of hobbying.
@Jonas_Fox
Жыл бұрын
The way I've limited myself it by getting smaller games like underworlds stuff. I bought the Bladeborn and Fire Team boxes for $50 at the book store and then bought each of the expansion teams supported in the box to make a super-box, Bladeborn being essentially a smaller scale Warcry on an Underworlds board and Fire Team being a smaller scale Kill Team box on an Underworlds-style board. I helps but it's no cure for the collection bug. Oh, and I collect 3D print files... but they don't take up any space! 😅
@NewSquallor
Жыл бұрын
Wanted to start Warhammer Fantasy with High Elves back in the day. Got a huge box of them to get started. Realized this was going to be a very long slog. Set them aside, never got to them. They're somewhere. But sure glad I got all these LotR minis on clearance when my local store decided they wanted to finally clear them out. Ho ho! Loving this channel. Cheers.
@stuffandnonsense8528
Жыл бұрын
What I really love is having an enormous pile of treasure which I can just sit on. I just like looking at my pile of treasure.
@gavinjames1145
Жыл бұрын
It took me a year to get round to opening and painting the Warhammer Kill Team Octarius box-set, which I had ordered on the morning of release. I first 'had' to work through a tiny pile of shame. Also, I bought myself a birthday present ten months ago: Guardians of the Riverbank from the Northumberland Tin Soldier Company. They would have been painted by now, to play using rules by Burrows and Badgers, but I kind of got carried away with painting up a small Ork and Gretchin army! In the meantime, GW have released a tonne of stuff that I'd love to buy, if only I had the time and money (inflation permitting!). However, I have mastered my desires like a Zen Buddhist and will wait patiently for The Day!
@johnnycooper7019
Жыл бұрын
Dave, bloody good point. I have a great pile of shame, but have painters block plus the usual curse of the modeller - work! It's great to know that I'm not the only one! Best Wishes Johnny
@athollmcnicoll1028
Жыл бұрын
Yes Dave and I know to my costing figures, way too much bought and paid for over the years. So next year I will be driving South to Mirfield and see the man and hopefully turn my man-cave around with books instead of mini's. Cheers for the wibble.
@Hurricanelive
Жыл бұрын
I'm blessed I only have a small grey tide and 2 painted armies. I love building though so if I build a Cadian army box I can just hit it with primer and resell it for practically the same cost, buy something else, chill and build while watching YT, radio, repeat. And I can paint maybe a tank or maybe some AoS addition at my leisure. I literally have not upgraded my SoBs from anything of the second wave, no Vahl, or Saints, or APUS, or CAstanks, nothing. I have not even got Morathi for my DoKs. I have no HQs for any of my Astartes Chapters, or Cadians, or Necrons, or Nighthaunts. GW isn't making anything I want so that saves me a ton of money. I'm 90% of the mind of build it and get rid of it.
@tethys17
Жыл бұрын
I knew about the "pile of shame" thing before I got into it and bought anything. I bought and finished my first models, they I got some more and somehow I now have half an army of nighthaunt, some sisters of battle and some chaos marines waiting for paint. Building everything is definitely a good idea though. You can see what needs to be done and you can just pick them up and paint them whenever, without thinking you need to build and prime them and everything that comes with that.
@chillywilly883
Жыл бұрын
Been very frugal with my adult reintroduction to the hobby. Started with gaslands, Etsy shop selling cars funded branching out to other games. Kept purchases to affordable starter sets or eBay.
@woodendforager3240
Жыл бұрын
I have nursed the same collection of models for 20 years, always with the intention of getting back into the hobby and painting them (one day). It is not a large pile of shame but definately a lingering one. I've started painting them now, and bought a few new models, getting into terrain making also. I realise now how easy it is for the grey pile to grow larger rather than smaller.
@critcialminxs
Жыл бұрын
Love it, giving allot of nighthunt that still box away, though don't play as much I have idea ticking in my head what I'm going do with them. And Thanks Dave, it 8.40pm and I fancy a greggs.
@foreverfornever1124
Жыл бұрын
I have a decent routine when it comes to my pile of shame. Before I figured it out I had about 15 boxes of models. So my routine involves painting a unit or single model I already have built. Then building a box of models once that's done. Then back to painting another unit or single model. Then I buy new boxes but not exceeding more than 3 items to maintain a small pile of shame. Currently I have 7 box in my pile and Im content with that
@johnfarscape
2 ай бұрын
I have been collecting and painting since 88, I had a lot of it painted, but then stupidly got over critical of my painting skills from my early teen years recently, and paint stripped around 200 rogue trader miniatuers, around 400 2nd edition models, and 200+ 3rd edition models, Space hulk, 2 editions, space crudase, advanced space crusade, ultramarines game, tyranid assault, space fleet, battlefleet gothic, kerrunch, mighty heroes, heroquest, advanced heroquest, gorkamorka, bloodbowl, talisman, around 1000 fantasy empire and undead models, lost partol, necromunda, space marine, epic, adeptus titanicus, titan legions and man o war, I had every intention to repaint everything to a much better standard, but then I realised, even if I averaged 5 finished models per day, which is unlikely while working a 50+ hour week, and having a daughter to look after, it would still have to do nothing but paint for almost 40 years, which is around 10 years longer than im likely to have left based on average expectancies, which really sucks 😢
@ravdeepbagri1313
Жыл бұрын
I bought a ton of Privateer Press stuff on clearance and I wouldn't mind not painting it all because the average cost was about a dollar per model.
@wardaddyminiatures
Жыл бұрын
I'm having to buy a shed to deal with the overflow so I think yes
@MSPaints
Жыл бұрын
Rent the neighbours garage!
@mooseoperator7288
Жыл бұрын
Selling minis is a great way to cut down your back log. Be honest what that you actually will get to and more importantly what you want to get to and sell the rest.
@stevenray8737
Жыл бұрын
Some games don't need their models painted. I bought Blackstone Fortress partly because it was something to play inbetween other games that I would prep for.
@SSecret_Hugz
Жыл бұрын
if, i hadn't recently subbed anyway. Hulk master Hogan would have earned a subb off of giggles alone!
@Wulfseal
Жыл бұрын
Honest talk going on here brother. I really like the new kill team boxes so they got me with Shadow Vault recently, still have not painted all the terrain from the prior set yet. Before that I had a clear out and gifted most of my 40k stuff to friends. It was full armies worth of stuff I was just having fun buying for discount or second hand. Lesson, cheaper is not a saving if you never use the stuff.
@alf1712
Жыл бұрын
I just started this year into warhammer 40k like 3 months ago, I started with the space marines paint box and painted all 3 models, Then I bought the recruit edition and the paints and tools set then some eliminators and incursors and outriders and normal intercesors and a phobos lieutenant and a primaris captain... Damn I haven't even finish the assault intercessor squad from the recruit box xD, I wanted to have just a 500 point army, that's all I wanted T_T, and the funniest thing (and sad) is that I don't have people to play with because I moved to a new country and I don't speak the language good enough yet,
@sub39h
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Especially the Greggs run.
@ClevelandSteamer0
Жыл бұрын
I buy a model and paint it, repeat. Having too many models sat waiting in the wings does seem to cripple my enthusiasm.
@KelstenGamingUK
Жыл бұрын
I’ve only just started with warhammer. This month I’ve bought seraphon starter set, league of votann, some death guard, kill team into the darkness and I’m looking at necromunda, too. No real plan to actually play any of it, just buying what I think is cool looking and then learning to paint.
@alexwhite2265
Жыл бұрын
hey MS Paints, I starting a building a 40k nercon army and work out there so much stuff that is built and already painted second hand market is so full stuff and i have lot of friends in games clubs and private listing that can be bought.
@clock1212
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, great takes on the topic!
@rikvah9817
Жыл бұрын
I just purchased mu first box 2 months after looking into it 😄
@GoldenRogueMinis
Жыл бұрын
I’m pretty disciplined with it compared to most, I’ve limited my self to two armies for now to flip between when I’m bored of one of them. Not including the orks I bought and then didn’t like anymore before I’d even built them (we don’t talk about them though)
@kiralred_30k
3 ай бұрын
Hi mate, re-watching some old videos whilst building terrain. Is this the first appearance of Chump change on the channel?
@MSPaints
3 ай бұрын
First official appearance is on the gw killing our channels video I think mate!
@doobie1984
Жыл бұрын
Great video. I upvoted it pretty quickly, then forgot about it. Then each time you said something awesome, I went back to upvote it again - this happened like 3 times. I think I have short-term memory failure.
@MSPaints
Жыл бұрын
You’ll be most welcome here if you do!
@toogreytogame
Жыл бұрын
Yes. Yes. And yes again. My worst habit is FOMO for savings. Got all the Nighthaunt from Mortal Realms and 2 x craft worlds start collecting boxes just in case I want to start those armies in future and buying it now will "save me money" in the long run. I do get my Smaug on sitting and looking at the pile.
@neon_necromunda
Жыл бұрын
Oh the hulk hogan reference made me chuckle like i was 7 years old again.
@bizophone
Жыл бұрын
As a Gundam guy, this happens to us too. Bandai? More like Bandit. Anyway, good advice!
@coeffinger1
Жыл бұрын
Dude. Spot on video. I can’t play their games anymore. Just can’t keep up with the rules changes. They ruined my happy place. So I now play Legion, Boltaction, Lord of the Rings SBG. One Page Rules Grim Dark Future is a great option to 40k. Been collecting minis and WARHAMMER stuff since the late 80’s. They first turned me off when they killed Fantasy. I just repurposed most of my GW stuff for other games. 🤙🏼😎
@huwtindall7096
Жыл бұрын
When I first got into the hobby the fact I didn't have heaps of money meant I kept up painting with what I bought with the pocket money or got for a birthday. When I came back to the hobby a couple of years back I could essentially afford whatever I want and unfortunately I've got a budding pile of shame. It's not the worst but still a shelf's worth of kits and maybe 6 months solid painting! 😬
@ionminiatures
Жыл бұрын
I got into the hobby (late in life at 54), mainly for the painting side of the hobby. Self care and addition subjects for my macro photography also. And I also have too much to paint. I purchased the ravaged star veil touched as the starter 😂 so am prepping for them to appear in March. No interest at present in playing at all.
@DashCamSheffield
Жыл бұрын
...I have 2 mounds of shame. I get Warhammer Imperium magazines, and been slow going. The Marines are greys....Necrons are better off. Got Kill Team starter, but boxed. Some Orks. However, I also have my collections at my parents house, as they never got moved when I moved out.... last seen late 2000's. Tau, 2 Ork armys, 2 Imperial Guard armies (including Tallarns), couple of Necromunda gangs, some Dark Angels.....and 2 boxes worth of Goblins & Dwarves from the WHFB starter....Its the modelling supplies that I still wanna get back...
@ReverendPONT
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was buying just to have them and not have to wait for restocks. My HH, NL and SOH are in various stages of being done and I got burned out. I'm just reading the books now to reinvigorate myself while I also help my Mom recover from surgery on her neck.
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