In terms of slowing your account progression, Frostleaf is still the goat
@indomaretlawrence1069
3 ай бұрын
Why is the girl still catching strays man wtf
@maskedheretic9629
3 ай бұрын
Bruh 😎🧉 Frostleaf catching Ls for no reason
@porokichin7878
3 ай бұрын
Typical Frostleaf L
@Another_Dusk
3 ай бұрын
That's a serious trigger for every frostleaf lovers 💀
@geraldo301
3 ай бұрын
@@Another_Dusk there's like 2 of them, it's fine
@HuruHara575
3 ай бұрын
I'm imagining sadistic dokutah who use Suzuran, Mostima and Ascalon's skill back to back 💀
@xolove0024
3 ай бұрын
add Saria too for more trouble!
@DavidSlayer151
3 ай бұрын
Hello sir, who gave you permission to move?
@hoylangskii
3 ай бұрын
Manticore: may I join in?
@HuruHara575
3 ай бұрын
@@hoylangskii maybe, I only mentioned the 80% slow effect or above that make the opponent barely move btw
@smgchichi8196
3 ай бұрын
And shu skill to teleport 🗿
@dnomyeR985
3 ай бұрын
So having them in team means a slowfest, definitely worth trying
@twittwitmf3258
3 ай бұрын
Not really, % slow is capped at 99%
@momomunsta8887
3 ай бұрын
ty this is the test i wanted to see
@sadang870
3 ай бұрын
Ascalon slow mechanism is same as Mostima by Sciel explanation in reply (e.g. Ascalon can slow IS4 hidden1 boss Eikthynir). and she can slow also air enemy(only can't damage, by wiki) I mean 95%~99% vs 85% is still siginficant gap, but skill uptime is also huge thing. Ascalon s2 uptime is 20s/35s wft She is not 'bring everywhere' type like Taxalter or Mlynar, but maybe best in her role. I bet next CC max score team include Ascalon. Always thanks to info!
@kyarumomochi5146
3 ай бұрын
CC is all about damage mostly. Ascalon doesnt bring much new to the table other than being a additional source of stall
@Kokinkun
3 ай бұрын
@@kyarumomochi5146 max risk CC has almost always been about stall and pot-gated DPS + DP restrictions. Stop yapping misinformation
@kyarumomochi5146
3 ай бұрын
@@Kokinkun Stall in form of damage amps that is. Ascalons damage is no where near to be used in CCs and characters like suzuran do the exact same thing while giving damage amps What a living failure
@Kokinkun
3 ай бұрын
@@kyarumomochi5146 Huhh?? We're talking about max risk CC, but you're making it seem like all you need is Suzuran. Multiple stall units have been needed for a while now: POO, DOS, even CC#2 that we watched Sciel suffer through. Even the current DOS S-3 demands at least 3-4 stallers (not just damage amps) and that's not remotely close to the difficulty level of max risk CC. Do you even attempt high/max risk in CC-like events?
@pitagor2
3 ай бұрын
@@kyarumomochi5146 yeah the CC8 max risk stall with liskarm and blacknight two units that do so much damage amp get real
@user-qe8ij2ox8q
3 ай бұрын
그 답없던 모스티마가 신캐랑 비비는 성능캐가 되는 날이 올줄 누가알았으리오
@BigBowsaALT
3 ай бұрын
adding my thanks to the comment section because I actually really wanted to see this
@Khroniclas
3 ай бұрын
Anyone that can read knows Mostima slows more on skill. Ofc Ascalon slows way better off-skill and is frankly much better at dealing damage. Then again, Mostima has global slow, Ascalon only in her own range. Ascalon is a competitor, not a replacement, even though she has much better uptimes she can't provide literally everything that Mostima can and vice versa.
@bluerendar2194
3 ай бұрын
Idk, Mostima already isn't optimal outside of when you *really* need the 99% over lower options or need it to slow invul bosses, so imo Ascalon will not compete much at all.
@freakdeath1020
3 ай бұрын
@@bluerendar2194 to add this: on mass enemy wave, mostima can halt every enemies, whether if it's sarkaz lancer or buffed running boi, slowed on the same speed as 0.1 tile, at the same speed as patriot's movement speed. It's not that very game changing but when the time comes where you really need that 99% slow, mostima is an option. It's not like mostima hasn't been relegated already by future ops.
@Khroniclas
3 ай бұрын
Mostima S3 is simply really strong whenever CC is relevant. Other than that, Mostima doesn't do much yeah (though global ms reduction does have some comfy benefit). Therefore I do think Ascalon will be prefered in general content for many people, but not so much that people will bring her everywhere constantly. We have quite a decent amount of CC options nowadays. I would not be surprised if many people would still simply use Suzuran or Gnosis for some stalling while applying fragile too, instead of getting some extra CC from Ascalon. Let alone the people that don't use much CC to begin with. (Those are the people that are calling Ascalon trash for not doing Mlynar damage, I assume.)
@harunammie4898
3 ай бұрын
I've stated this before with the Thorns and Typhon vid, but i can see that this makes me want to get Ascalon solely for the fact that you can extend the slow duration by purposely delaying the skill activation of the other. Mostima has that knockback with S3 adding for extra CC compared to Ascalon who can kill waves of bulky enemies (my assumption) But i might skip on her solely for the fact that i really do not see a use case where you need an ambusher and neither ethan/manticore has enough crowd control to deal with the waves of enemies
@justrandomdude1775
3 ай бұрын
Slowest operator in history vs slowest operator of today
@agr436
3 ай бұрын
슬로우 자체는 모스티마가 좋지만 회전율과 데미지까지 생각하면 아스카론이 더 좋네요.
@yuyeoha
3 ай бұрын
패트리어트는 원래 이동속도가 느려서 아스카론도 최소 이동속도로 만들다보니 차이가 없어 보이는데 이동속도 버프까지 받는 찔러용 상대로는 99% 감속의 위력이 잘 보이네요
@user-pk4uv8fr1v
3 ай бұрын
둘 다 써서 0저지 스톨링 전략 나오겠는 걸
@Hyo_Panda
3 ай бұрын
oh i just look at gamepress, ascalon skill is much more manageable too i think. 20 for s2 and 45 for s3 (both m3)
@hidaQ6
3 ай бұрын
지상배치라는 장점도 무시 못하긴 할듯
@LeeW00Hyeon
3 ай бұрын
99퍼 감속의 모스티마 판정승
@xcom-kn3xo
3 ай бұрын
아스카론이 좋아보여도 모스티마는 맵 전체에 슬로우가 걸리는걸 생각해야함.
@hijkstuv
3 ай бұрын
모스티마가 좋아보여도 아스카론이 스킬 SP 20밖에 안 들어간다는걸 생각해야함 * 장단점이 다 따로 있다는 말. 모황 까내리기 ㄴㄴ
@nameless-memory
3 ай бұрын
@@hijkstuv 이게 결국 모스티마는 케스터들 sp증가, 맵 전체 슬로우, 무적-은신-기믹 상관없이 전부 슬로우라는 말 그대로 CC와 보조의 목숨을 건 구성이고 아스카론은 딜+감속을 빠른 순환률로 커버치는 것 둘 다 일장일단이 있고 맵이 단순할수록 아스카론이 기믹이 복작하거나 특수할수록 모스티마가 빛을 볼 듯함
@waffen3978
3 ай бұрын
유지력, 유틸성, 효과 면에서 그냥 아스카론이 이기네
@Light_ysh
3 ай бұрын
결론= 둘 다 쓰면된다
@Grim-n-play
3 ай бұрын
Now do Mizuki vs Ascalon in term of DPS
@maskedheretic9629
3 ай бұрын
Thanks now this is what I wanted to see. Not the end part where Mostima died though. Fs for Mostima. So Ascalon has better crowd control, while Mostima can kill them faster with her skill but then she gets overwhelmed. Hmm interesting then.
@Auroraen
3 ай бұрын
mostima actually has the stronger slow at 90% (99% at p5) as opposed to ascalon's 85.28% (which is achieved after three attacks on a 3.5 atk interval). ascalon does have a longer duration and shorter sp cost though don't really want to do the math, but id imagine ascalon's total damage after her DoT is probably better than mostima's tot dmg
@Khroniclas
3 ай бұрын
@@Auroraen Yeah Ascalon damage should be much higher than Mostima once she has three stacks of her talent active. Her arts DPS from DOT during S2 should be 764, Mostima S3 skill dps is 1055, so basically just short of 300 dps more. Now you still need to take into account that Ascalon also does physical DPS of 661, with decent hits of ~2300 dph. Ultimately Ascalon ends up doing ~1420 DPS as a crowd control operator, compared to Mostima at around 1055. Mostima S3 lasts 27 seconds, Ascalon S2 has a duration of 35 seconds. Ascalon also has a downtime that is bare minimum 40 seconds lower. (Too lazy to calculate Mostima sp talent and such rn)
@라비아
3 ай бұрын
모스티마가 죽거나 하진 않겠네
@raffyluvmiharu
3 ай бұрын
My question would be is do they stack? and with you add Suzuran S3 and Saria's S3 how slow can you go.
@skaarj9342
3 ай бұрын
They do stack. Suzus slow doesnt stack coz its a fixed 80% slow. Most of the enemys here are already as slow as they can ever be. Minimum movement speed is a thing.
@nawaru01
3 ай бұрын
Slow debuff can't stack (because it's debuff) However slow movement reduction can stack. Also can affect enemies with debuff immunity.
@Auroraen
3 ай бұрын
there are two types of slows in the game: sluggish and [everything else]. sluggish is unique, so operators with sluggish can't stack with each other. however, they CAN stack with [everything else], and [everything else] can also stack with [everything else]. they stack multiplicatively, obviously in general, if the description of the slow does not specifically provide a number, its sluggish, which is an 80% slow e.g. suzuran's trait. if a percentage is stated, then its [everything else] e.g. 33% on mosti talent i should note that there is a lower limit on movespeed of 0.05 tiles per second, and given that p5 mosti s3 slows for 99%, there's really no reason to stack since she brings everything to the speed floor by herself
@iLovY0U
3 ай бұрын
모황 아직도 씹간지네
@Korsicca
3 ай бұрын
So basically Ascalon is more reliable (faster atk speed). Well... i guess Mostima will got her alter to fix her problems (slow atk speed and cost).
@user-yanadu.
3 ай бұрын
모스티마처럼 무적이나 은신상태여도 감속적용이 되나요?
@nameless-memory
3 ай бұрын
적이 던지는 공격 같은 거 아니면 움직이는 모든 걸 다 감속건다고 보면 됩니다 농담 아니라 론트레일의 공도 감속 걸리고 그럽니다 ㅋㅋㅋ
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