CORRECTIONS HERE: it turns out that Arlecchino may actually be 27 years old. Lyney said that he approached Cesar (the Magician that taught him and Lynette his magic tricks) when he joined the House of the Hearth, and later that Cesar died 10 years prior to the Story Quest, so Arlecchino must have become the Knave 10 years ago. This would make her 27 years old, as I said. The problem comes with the records of the executions that only go back 5 years. My best bet is that it took 5 whole years for Dottore to come up with a way to extract the flames from Arlecchino's body and, once she finally had a way out for the children, she started recording the "executions", and she's been doing that for 5 years now.
@pinkraven7043
4 ай бұрын
This makes more sense to me than her only being a director for 5 years. Given how loyal most of the kids are to her, I’d find it hard to believe Arlecchino was able to gain that much respect in only 5 years. And the way a the children talk about her implies that she’s known them during their formative years. Her only being active for 5 years wouldn’t line up with how old Lyney, Lynette, and Freminet seem to be.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
@@pinkraven7043 yeah, it does make more sense, and it fits with what Lyney told us, too. By the way, I like your avatar, Raihan is one of my favorite characters, although my actual favorite one is Leon XD
@rcruzcarvalho
4 ай бұрын
The Natlan hypothesis could eventually be right. The new artifact domain has the Fontaine aesthetics and the Natlan aesthetics so it could be a hint. Great video! 😊
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
@@rcruzcarvalho yeah, it's possible, or it's just that they have to start giving us something about Natlan, since they've kept it hidden for 3 years and it's almost time to go there. And thank you!!! I'm happy you liked the video!!
@MacA60230
4 ай бұрын
Great video! I think they're keeping most of the stuff about her Khaenrian heritage for later, including her glitching. She'll probably get a second quest or make another appearance when Project Stuzha is executed, when Dottore burns the tree, or when we get another deep dive in Khaenri'ah. Would be a better time to drop lore bombs about her I imagine. After all while lore heads are very much aware of how special Arlecchino is, the average player probably never read perinheri and only sees her as another Harbinger, they needed to be introduced to her, her flames, the crimson moon etc. first. Now that this is established, they can go further.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's what I just wrote to another viewer. She will, most likely, get a Ignis Purgatorius act 2, considering how special she is, and that will explain more about her, hopefully her glitching as well. Dainsleif's quest still needs to happen, and that will probably tie back to what we learned in Caribert and with Arlecchino as well. I hope he'll actually tell us who saw us through the dream (and if it's the purple crystal, I want to know if it's Phanes as I believe). At this point, we can just wait. 4.6 was pretty heavy in lore, adding more, would have been too much!
@YesOrNoGo
4 ай бұрын
Very in-depth ! ❤
@someoneinasia
4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming since she never actually glitch in her story quest and there is no lore about the glitching not even in her voiceline, i'm wondering if it's just for gameplay and idle purpose to make her more unique. edit: even in her boss fight she doesn't glitch, she does have the evade thing teleporting/afterimage but that's not the same.
@someoneinasia
4 ай бұрын
i think that there is another secret that only traveler, paimon, nahida and wanderer knows. the other fatui including dottore doesn't know, that the giant irminsul tree is FAKE. we know the real irminsul is in another realm that can only be accessed with nahida's permission. the real irminsul is not even a tree, it's like a machine that looks like a tree, like a supercomputer.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
@@someoneinasia what I noticed, though, is that the children in her demo, that are most likely dead children, also glitch while they're running past her. It most likely has to do with death and the afterimages, and I hope it's going to be explained later in a hypothetical Ignis Purgatorius act 2. It can't be just a cool effect with no meaning behind, it wouldn't make sense...
@gyannunez
4 ай бұрын
So, I guess you see Arlecchino as the Crimson Moon Dynasty equivalent of Itto. He has stronger Oni blood than most other members of the species in modern day, which is highlighted primarily in his particularly deadly reaction to soybeans. Ever since we learned about the Primordial Sea and heard about the Primal Fire, I’ve been interested in the existence of these “Primordial” elemental bodies. Irminsul is the source of Dendro power, which suggests that it’s the equivalent to the Primordial Sea and Primal Fire. Of the other elements, only Anemo seems like it might have a known equivalent, being the Thousand Winds associated with Istaroth. The Shade of Life was essentially given the responsibility of handling the Primordial Sea and created Egeria to that end. Istaroth may have inherited the Thousand Winds as her duty. Venti may be an existence more similar to Egeria, the creation of a Shade directly. I imagine Rukkhadevata may have also been something similar to Egeria’s existence. Her being the “avatar of Irminsul” has always made me wonder what her actual connection to it was. Has she always been the avatar, or was she connected to it after becoming an Archon? If she’s innately connected to it, does that mean she’s been around since the beginning, or did older versions of her exist in previous Samsaras? Maybe we’ll learn soon. I genuinely wonder if there are other “primordial elemental bodies” for the other elements, like Primal Earth or something like that (although I guess that could just be the planet itself). The total lack of any true Electro Vishaps other than mutated Bathysmal Vishaps also makes me wonder if we’ll ever get to see stuff related to the “Primordial Lightning” or the Electro Sovereign. We haven’t been to Snezhnaya so I imagine if there’s a Cryo body we’ll learn of it there. I think you’ll probably cover it in your next video, but it seems like Egeria being described as having “like nobility unto a dragon” but lacking its outer form was very, very literal, as Cassiodor said a new Hydro Dragon couldn’t be born while the Mistress of Many Waters hibernated in the deep seas. He does also mention her death, but according to Furina, Neuvillette’s at least 1,000 years old (apparently the Chinese version doesn’t specify multiple thousands), and he was already alive long enough for Folcalors to know about him centuries ago, so I’m going to defer to the hibernation statement more. Something about Egeria’s prison kept a Hydro Sovereign from manifesting, but when she left one could be born. Maybe before the creation of the Archons’ authorities she had the entire Hydro Dragon’s authority, but could only manage it from her prison. After becoming the Hydro Archon she only inherited part of the authority, and the rest of it that used to manage became free to manifest into a new Sovereign. Also, sorry I didn’t really talk much about Arlecchino. I don’t actually know what I can say that will really add to or interact with anything you said in the video in a meaningful way. I feel like we’ve already talked a lot about Arlecchino in your community posts and I may have exhausted a lot of my thoughts on her already, but if I think of something suddenly in the middle of the night (like I do sometimes) I’ll probably let you know.
@TehLadyBoom
4 ай бұрын
About "Primal Earth" I'm thinking about Albedo's lore, "The universe is the dark essence of the true starry sky, and the earth is the accumulated memories of time and lives. The chalk: that is you. The earth is where alchemy gets its name, and is the basis of all life. [...] The next stage after "soil" is "chalk," which was also something his master had mentioned. "Chalk is the spotless soil, and was used to make primordial man."" I see "Primal Geo" more as a substance rather than a source of power, as seen in the lore of different ores, por example Cor Lapis: "A precious crystal of condensed pure Geo element that usually grows along with other minerals. It's also commonly called "Cor Petrae."", Trishiraite: "A splendorous stone that can be found in the depths of desolate mountains, seemingly formed from congealed elemental energy.", Not an ore but looks like one, Beryl Conch: "A conch-like structure that gives off a faint glow. Despite the name, it is not a shell but something condensed from pure elemental energy.", Noctilucous Jade: "A rare mineral that glimmers in the dark. It's said to be a mutated gemstone condensed from the flourishing elements of the world.", Starsilver: "A rare and precious ore formed by the unique geographical conditions and Ley Lines of Dragonspine.", there is something in common and it's that most if not all ores are crystallized energy around ley lines and some have the ability to absorb other energy and change qualities (like Noc. Jade). Also, Azosite was a "mineral" used by Khaenri'ahns that was pure Ley Line energy and was their fuel for a long time it seems. I just realized, maybe that's the logic behind the Crystallize reaction (lol). Now that I think about it, it's like Geo itself always tries to keep itself "pure" but at the same time it's the "ground" for other elements to be within it, see Geovishaps and even Azhdaha, they are Geo beings but can control other elements at the same time, and who can do this too? Xuanwen Beasts and the Suanni boss who are ANEMO beings that can also control water. (I'm not taking into account Robot/Machine enemies as it doesn't count in my opinion). As always, Anemo and Geo being sus af, I'm looking at you Zhongli and Venti. As for Primal Lightning and Ice... I have no idea. Electro sovereign lore when mihoyo... We don't even know where Raiden came from. Also, they need to confirm who are the Anemo and Geo sovereigns, Dvalin and Azhdaha are there but they were never called sovereigns, I suppose it's implied but idk man.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, the Primordial elements are definitely a very interesting addition to the game. Irminsul is the Primordial Dendro (and I still think it's Imaginary), for Hydro there's the Primordial Sea, for Pyro there's the Primal Fire, for Anemo I guess the Thousand Winds should be the right equivalent, while Geo and Electro seem not to have equivalents BUT! XD Azhdaha went crazy because the people messed up with the leylines, so maybe, and I say maybe, the leylines are the Primordial Earth/Geo, while the abyss is the Primordial Electro because everytime there's the abyss involved, we always see lightnings, like the portals in ??? that take us around, they always sparkle with lightnings. There was another instance of this, but I can't remember where I saw it. Since the Abyss has to be something extremely important to Teyvat, I've always thought it is the power plant for the microcosm (also because its effects are identical to radiation exposure), and lightning=electricity so the association is similar. Rukkhadevata might have been similar to Egeria, but I think she's closer to Venti because she was created later, not at the creation of the microcosm. If she was as old as Egeria, they would have probably told us. Instead we see Deshret ruling over the desert, and then Rukkhadevata appearing... Although, if she was as old as Egeria, it would have explained why the two Gods were very close to each other, although nothing would have stopped them to simply become close friends later anyway. As for the Electro Sovereign, if I'm right with the Electro-Abyss association, then it would explain why we didn't meet the Electro Dragon. It would have explained too much about Teyvat's creation and too early. Plus, what would it be? The Abyss Dragon? The Quantum dragon? The Void Dragon? As for Cryo, I honestly have no idea. Ice usually acts as a reservoir of water for the whole world, but that doesn't happen in Teyvat since Fontaine gives water to the whole planet... If we go down the path of the flatearthers (since the inhabitable Teyvat is a plane) then we could think that Cryo holds the borders of the microcosm? You know, the tall and impenetrable ice wall that they believe encircles the whole plane? Maybe Cryo is what created the false sky? I mean, it has to have come from somewhere... I will definitely cover that small but heavy as hell sentence about Egeria and the dragon sovereign in the Remuria video. I was so shocked at how easily they dropped that bomb, just like that, as if it was nothing! It does make sense to believe that she had the whole authority for herself because she was in the Primordial Sea. Let's pretend that the dragons were deprived of half of their authorities (to make it easier), then the Primordial Sea could have half of it, while the Archons have been given the other half. As long as Egeria was in the Primordial Sea, both halves were together, so the Primordial Sea didn't see it useful to create a new dragon, by when she left, the Primordial Sea's authority was halved, so it created a new dragon, probably to go and take the other half... As for Arlecchino, it's okay, we did talk a lot about her XD
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
@@TehLadyBoom so that why I think the Primal Geo is the leyline, you basically kinda gave me a sort of confirmation of my belief (that I wrote in the reply of the viewer that wrote the comment). Azhdaha, that is implied to be the Geo sovereign just like Dvalin because they're called pure elemental life forms like the sovereings, went mad when the people messed up with the leylines, on which he depends. As a consequence, they should be directly linked with Geo, being the Primal Geo form. As for the creation of humans, Geo must have played a big role, considering that the memories of the people go back to the leylines, but the fact that the Sacred Flames are where the people "go back to" when they die, makes me think that it's something like Haephestus, and the people were forged by fire. As for the Primordial Electro, I still think it's the Abyss, since the abyss portals have lightnings like in ???, while the Primordial Ice COULD be the false sky. If it's a flat plane, then there's the flatearther possibility of a tall ice wall that encirlces the plane, and what closes it off is, indeed, the false sky.
@TehLadyBoom
4 ай бұрын
@ShadowX5452Gaming Huh, "Primal Earth/Geo" being the Ley Lines themselves actually make a bit of sense, the ores and even the constellations/stars are made of Geo maybe (Unreconciled Stars mention in 2024?!?!?!) The ores and constellations maybe are something like a "fruit" of Crystallized Geo energy that can also be infused with other elements. I was just thinking about Geo and it's ability to "contain" energy, it kinda acts like a vessel, maybe what the Crystallized reaction does is "trap" the different elements it touches rather than infuse. Electro on the other hand is so weird, it's energy itself but nobody uses... Electricity... Like, it's there. But the thing with portals and being related with speed (electro seelies too) and the excess of electro energy in Inazuma having a Geiger counter like sound is interesting too. I actually think it makes more sense if you think of Teyvat being the power plant and the energy of the other realms being the fuel, similar to pneumousia, idk. About Rukkhadevata, yeah, I think the same. Maybe her relation to Deshret is similar to Zhongli and Guizhong, they didn't knew each other for thousands of years but simply became very good friends because they were just compatible. But the Electro sovereign is so strange, maybe you're right, nothing else comes to my mind... What if the sinner is the Electro sovereign... (Just kidding... Or not) But yeah, probably is a massive spoiler. I just still think about the abyss having it's own kind of energy other than electro, but who knows. What you say could fill that gap. Cryo maybe acts like a mirror or screen in the false sky? I have absolutely no clue, Cryo has always been a weird element to me, it's like a "secondary element" or variant of Hydro. It's like having a Steam element. But let's not forget that "Colors of the rainbow" or something like that achievement, the one that implies that there is more than 7 elements. About Egeria, yeah go ahead, it's a detail so important and just dropped there like nothing. Sorry about Arlecchino, when I start thinking about world building I go crazy XD (excuse any nonsense I say, it's my 5 am brain, good night)
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
@@TehLadyBoom well, consider that I think the Sinner is Phanes, the shade that was supposed to release the world onto the old world, but did his own thing and ended up being punished by the Primordial One and changed in the Abyss... I mean, if he created a microcosm in the egg from which he was born, it means the egg never hatched, so he never came out of it, hence he's still inside....
@VeraldoAncodini
4 ай бұрын
Hleobrant turned into a Hilichurl when he reached the surface of Teyvat and Angelica was at best a Seelie, or some kind of ghost, since she disappeared when they reached the surface. The only person in that story that could've had descendants is Perinheri. They even have similar names, a clear indication of being related. These are not changes to hide what happened, because we only ever get the cliffsnotes versions of these books, what we read ingame is clearly not the full book. These are the main points. There could be another origin for Peruere, she could be an Outlander summoner or found by the Fatui, then experimented on to acquire the Balemoon curse. Also, remember the three Pari/Seelie like creatures she has around her before her boss fight? After the fight you can find them around the arena, witnessing the fight, but there's also a fourth one that appears and it has a different coloring, as if affected by the Balemoon curse. I think those are her ancestors, including Perinheri.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
So, here's the thing. The ending of Penirheri is fictional, it was added in the second edition of the book by a novelist, it's written at the end. In case people didn't realized that, they now had Pierro specify that it's fiction with accurate key elements, so Hleobrant never turned into a monster when he got out (also because why? The story takes place during the Archon War, not the cataclysm), and Angelica wasn't a Seelie, but a person from Liyue that, just like many in Khaenri'ah, left her nation and God and moved to the underground nation. Peruere can't be an outlander summoned or found by the Fatui, otherwise she wouldn't have been abandoned and found by the orphanage, nor would Pierro have been surprised to see a descendant of the Crimson Moon. I didn't check the area after the fight, I'll do that as soon as I start the game. I wanted to find them, because I remember seeing them watching the fight in the livestream, but I always forgot about it.
@VeraldoAncodini
4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming "This text is also known as "Hleobranto Innamorato." The author of the first edition claims to have based this tale on a legendary story known throughout Khaenri'ah, but there are none left who can verify this. It is an anthological work produced over several generations at this point." This refers to the whole thing, not just the ending, and it doesn't mean it's fiction, it's a disclaimer that it's unverifiable. The Hilichurl curse isn't tied to Khaenri'ah, there are plenty of examples of Hilichurls existing long before the end of Khaenri'ah. It happened in Sal Vyndagnir, Enkanomiya, Inazuma(especially Tsurumi Island), etc. Angelica was definitely not human, and my best guess is that her goal was always to bring Perinheri to the surface, away from Khaenri'ah. If they found Peruere then they would've found her and sent her to the orphanage lol. Do you remember where it is said that Pierro was surprised to find out she was a descendant of the Crimson moon dynasty? or did he just assume that because of her curse?
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
@@VeraldoAncodini still from the book: "Mr. Jean Figeac's continued writings and refinements, which have given this story its ending (2nd edition)" so the story original didn't have an ending but it was added later by someone who was tasked with refining the book. Yes, there are countless hilichurls with different origin stories, but this is still a story of Khaenri'ah. It's unthinkable that just one guy, for whatever reason, left Khaenri'ah and transformed into a hilichurl, while other people of the nation left Khaenri'ah to go on missions (as it is also written in the story) and nothing happened to them. He's supposedly a descendant of someone who forsook their god and went to Khaenri'ah, so the moment he left the underground nation and transformed into a monster, would have been because he went to the surface, something other people from Khaenri'ah did and nothing happened to them. Hence, this is the fictional side of the book, the added tragix ending. Angelica is human throughout the whole book, except for the, once again, added tragic ending, so my reasoning is still the same as before. But they did find her and sent her to the orphanage... And yes, it's written on screen in the video when I said that. If I'm not mistaken, though, it's in Arlecchino's voice-over, it should be the "more about Arlecchino", maybe the second one.
@VeraldoAncodini
4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming I'm an actual book editor, "Mr. Jean Figeac's continued writings and refinements, which have given this story its ending (2nd edition)" doesn't mean the ending is fiction, it means the first edition wasn't complete. When finding ancient texts it takes a while to decipher and translate them properly. There can be new findings that completely change the story's meaning and context. That's why there are so many editions. You don't make this many changes and revised editions if it's a work of fiction. Pure blooded Khaenri'ahns aren't turned into Hilichurls, obviously they were the ones sent to the surface, and Khaenri'ah also had Outlanders they could send, which wouldn't be affected either. Perinheri, Hleobrant and Angelica left clandestinely, it makes no sense for Khaenri'ah to just let their two best knights leave. Otherwise they would've definitely told Hleobrant about the curse to at least scare him and keep him in their service. Non-humans can easily pass for humans in Teyvat. "it's in Arlecchino's voice-over" - Ah ok, I haven't looked at all of those yet.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
@@VeraldoAncodini yeah, but how unlikely is it that the ending in the second edition was actually purely fictional, just to give it a dramatic end? I mean, Pierro did say that the story is fictional, but the key elements are right, so in theory, most of the story should be just drama. The point of the curse and the transformation feels like giving people something they probably heard about before, especially since this book was originally written not too long after the cataclysm itself, so people were more aware of the Khaenri'ahns transforming into monsters back then. The problem is that it takes place during the Crimson Moon Dynasty, during the Archon War, and as a consequence, since the three fled from Khaenri'ah because of their own interests, it means that the Crimson Moon Dynasty hadn't ended yet, so there was no curse yet, that came later, so there shouldn't be any reason for Hleobrant to actually transform once he got out of the nation
@victorhugocostasantos6578
4 ай бұрын
As always, awesome content. My two cents: I read some theories about Peruere being a kind of error in Irminsul (hence the glitches). Kinda based on that, I remembered forbidden knowledge: what if it was memories not fully erased? As in: cinders of the bloodfire? It's probably just me being insane, but there you go xD
@gyannunez
4 ай бұрын
I think I could see this being true in a way. The Balemoon Bloodfire could be something similar to the Dark Mud in the Chasm, being a way of preserving Forbidden Knowledge in a way that the world can handle. That’s similar to what the Tumors of the Withering were, the effects of Forbidden Knowledge on the power of the Dendro Sovereign.
@kemiya1750
4 ай бұрын
I'm still upset they didn't give Perinheri more value or importance. If it had been found after completing a world quest (narzissen library), a secret dungeon, or a grand chest in a empty room, something like that, it would have been more appreciated. But buying it in the newspapers? Meh By the way, Natlan is close, I'm from México and I've been thinking that if you need help with translation or have doubts about the mythology, maybe I can help. Many anthropology and mythology books are not translated, let's say pre-Hispanic mythology is still not "popular" compared to others
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
Well... Yeah, finding it in at the newspaper stand was disappointing... But then again, it's a novel written by "normal" people in multiple editions, so it makes sense that it's treated like a normal book. As for Natlan, I did make three videos in which I talked about the Aztec, Mayan and Inca mythologies to explain both Natlan but also the Samsara Cycles. One is "Where are the Natlan NPCs", then "The seven samsara cycles", and the first one was "Natlan: Murata?". If you're curious, when you have some time, you could check them out and see if I got the myths right XD But yeah, I'm definitely making another Natlan video when the Saurian quest comes out (and I'm forcing myself to be optimistic, hoping the guy will actually tell us something useful), so I'll probably write in the Community Tab if I'm having trouble with the meso-american cultures. Thank you!!! XD
@clover.8147
4 ай бұрын
Kemiya, te digo que es muy cool tu intención, pero este canal está MUY bien informado de la historia de nuestra cultura, tanto tiempo hasta el día de hoy sigo sorprendida. Como te aconsejan, ve a ver sus demás videos de Natlan que están muy buenos.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
@@clover.8147 thank you for your words! At least, I think I correctly translated what you said with the little knowledge about Spanish that I have XD
@brandonramsaran8312
4 ай бұрын
Bro amazing video its just so relaxing listening to you explain all of this while doing anything else like playing games , work etc
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
Thank you!!! I'm happy you liked it and that you found it enjoyable!!! XD
@MacA60230
4 ай бұрын
Just saw other Arlecchino lore videos and something interesting that I think may be more likely than the descendants with recessive genes thing is her reincarnating outside of Irminsul's grasp. Reasoning: - Pierro says he is very surprised to see anyone from the Crimson Moon dynasty still alive at all. - Pierro says Perinheri is how Arlecchino can learn of her origin even if not a complete 1:1 source, and Perinheri sounds extremely close to Peruere in Chinese. Safe to assume Arlecchino is more Perinheri in the story than some potential love child of the knight and Angelica. In the story Perinheri has no memories before the crossing of the chimney and seeing the crimson moon. When asked if he died he says that *yes, he did*. - Arlecchino has the same issue of not having memories before seeing the crimson moon - Arlecchino considers losing your memories a form of death, as she "executes" House of the Hearth quitters - Her flames burn memories, and we know that Irminsul's control of fate is through memories. At death, the soul of Teyvat inhabitants (and their memories) go back to Irminsul who controls their fate - She is wary of her curse reaching her heart, as it would cause a "change". Not destroy her or anything, but "change" her - She has an established theme of evading her fate - So what if her curse forces her into a reincarnation cycle outside of Irminsul's grasp? Every time it reaches her heart she burns her own memories and self away, and is reborn under the Crimson Moon's gaze without going through Irminsul, thus not being subject to fate or at least not in the same way as most. She isn't a descendant of Perinheri, she *is* Perinheri, his soul in a reborn body. It would explain why she glitches and why her imagery is so different from the usual pyro stuff. The Sustainer of Heavenly Principles who is also outside of the rules of Teyvat shows a similar deep red, with similar "digital" imagery (and her cubes having one eye, echoing the crimson moon's one eye). This doesn't explain how exactly she ended up as such a special entity, but I prefer this explantion over the idea of random Khaenrians surviving and through genetic happenstance producing Arlecchino
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
So, when it comes to Perinheri and Peruere being similar names, I don't really think that's indicative of much. Hleobrant and Perinheri were friends, so what's stopping Hleobrant from giving his child the name of an important person in his life? And then the name got modified through time and became Peruere. In Perinheri, it is said that his first memories begin with the tunnel, but he also remembers adults telling him to go through it, so he has some memories about the past. Plus, it could simply mean that the Perinheri's first recorded memories begin there, like he wrote his story starting from that moment, not that he actually remembers from that moment on. In Perinheri, it is also said that he said that he died out of desperation because he wanted to get out of the tunnel. I don't think arlecchino doesn't have memories before the Crimson Moon, I don't remember reading something like that. Still, if she knows she wasn't born in Fontaine, shouldn't that mean that she knows about her own past? The past that she voluntarily abandoned when she got the name Arlecchino. Well, if someone loses his entire memories, that person is basically dead and the new one, the clean slate, is going to be a different person altogether because they won't have the life experiences they had that made them the person they were before. I don't really see the connection with rebirth to be honest. It's not like she died before. She grew up in the House of the Hearth and grew up like a normal child would, I mean physically of course. I think her defiance of fate is more in the fact that she's still alive and the curse hasn't been able to devour her as it was supposed to. She probably used her curse against the curse itself, thus being able to live her life instead of transforming into a monster. So, no, I don't think she's Perinheri, while for Susty, she may simply be associated with the Crimson Moon, hence the red portal, meaning that 3 of the shades are related to the three moons. I mean, despite the fact that you don't like the idea of her being an actual descendant of someone from the Crimson Moon Dynasty, Pierro himself said that she was, and I don't think there's anyone with a greater knowledge about it than one of the images of Khaenri'ah...
@anyanP
4 ай бұрын
Wait, Arlecchino was a director not for five years, but for ten, no? Because siblings were already part of the HoT when they met Cesar about a decade ago.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
Could you specify where it is said that Lyney and Lynette joined the House 10 years ago? You're not the first one to say this, but I honestly don't remember about it. Still, Freminet joined the House a few months before Crucabena's death, and Lyney and the Lynette a few months after. When Crucabena died, Arlecchino burned down everything, all the records went in flame, so the new records go back only 5 years, which should simply mean that the she became the Knave 5 years ago...
@anyanP
4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming Lyney’s SQ. “ Paimon: Y'know... Paimon's been wanting to ask you about something ever since we were in Cesar's workshop. You learned magic from Cesar once, didn't you? When was that? Lyney: After I joined the House of the Hearth. To be honest, Lynette and I had an agenda when we approached him.” And it was stated multiple times that Cesar died ten years ago.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
@@anyanP okay that's weird.... Did it take 5 years for Dottore to come up with a way to extract her flames? That's the only reason I could find... Once she was able to extract her flames, she was also able to release the children, so she started writing down records....
@anyanP
4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming possibly, or another alternative - records of the first five years simply weren’t accessible at the moment, maybe send to archive in Snezhnaya or whatever.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
@@anyanP hmmm, considering that those are internal affairs and the Fatui probably wouldn't allow the children to roam free, even though they have no memory of the secrets of the House, I doubt she sent those records to Snezhnaya. It's probably that finding a way to extract her flames took some time, even for Dottore. I think I'll add a pinned comment about this.
@anycoloursyoulike
4 ай бұрын
Daje!! Stavo aspettando questo video ;) I know, I know, your word is not final but still, your theories are fire 🔥🔥
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
I was a little shocked to read Italian for a second XD But yeah, mine are theories, they can be right, half-right or completely wrong. It's the effort that counts (and if I got things right, it's a huge satisfaction) XD Still, I'm happy you liked the video!!!
@marthaelenabrenesorozco2953
4 ай бұрын
GOOD VIDEO, every time we have a new GENSHIN IMPACT patch I wait for your video, they are one of the best in terms of LORE
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!! I'm happy you liked the video!! And, above all, thank you for your kind words!!! XD
@AlexisNess-mn4zw
4 ай бұрын
So Childe became a harbinger from 14-16?Holy
@marcusbullock2753
4 ай бұрын
I like how every genshin tuber uses a character as their face claim.
@zakim3O
4 ай бұрын
I hope she doesn't die when the archon quest regarding The Doctor Burning the World tree comes, I'm pretty sure the flames Dottore will use are Arlecchino's since it can erase memories.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
I actually didn't think about that... But I don't see why she would die. I mean, they can be extracted, and killing her would mean kissing those flames goodbye. Instead, if something had to happen to her, I would say that he could imprison her and use her as a test subject....
@zakim3O
3 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming Yeah I think that makes sense, I don't know why, maybe I watch too much anime and when a semi-ally/villain gets a good connection with the MC they could die to add drama to the story, but for him to imprison Arlecchino, we would probably need to have a rematch with her as enemies and weaken her to some extent, I can't see The Doctor overpowering her since she's number 4, or maybe he can? If the power gap between numbers 2 and 4 is big I guess.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
3 ай бұрын
@@zakim3O I mean, I don't think the rankings are solely based on their powers, there is actually something more to them and I will talk about it when I'll finally be able to make the new Harbingers video, but I don't really find it hard to believe that Dottore may actually be stronger than Arlecchino. I mean, he's crazy beyond recognition, his research lies in the perfect human and he's achieving it by experimenting on people, and he also created segments or builds of himself, so nothing really says that he hasn't operated on one of these segments and turned it into something as powerful as a God... And there are two left of them still, the omega build that talked with Nahida and the prime build, the original
@zakim3O
3 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming True, Nahida did say specifically that the top 3 are god-like in power. Anyway love your video, just subscribed I look forward to the next one I really do love these lore videos since Genshin has such an amazing one with tons of real-life culture and even religious influences.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
3 ай бұрын
@@zakim3O I wo der If we're actually fighting Capitano in Natlan, since he's the first of the Harbingers (because he can't possibly be the 10th).... Thank you and welcome to the community!!! The next video comes out in a few hours by the way! I hope you'll like it!!! XD
@genshin_lore_enjoyer
4 ай бұрын
Amazing video! 15:23 i really love this idea, it's really make sense!
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
Thank you!!! And yeah, Izumo and Takamagahara have been on my mind for quite some time, but I didn't know how to include them in a video. Arlecchino came at the perfect time!!!
@JeSuisMehrnaz
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the amazing video!!!
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching!!! XD
@isaiahhaley4816
4 ай бұрын
Also, I’m pretty sure we’re going to have a 4.8 just like the other updates natlan will likely release late August just like Fontaine
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
Fontaine was released on August 16th. It's not exactly late August...
@isaiahhaley4816
4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming well every nation usually releases at the end of the summer most commonly with August plus 4.7 is usually a filler update does not very summer vacation coded like 3.8 or 2.8 and with emili being hinted at with her release, she likely come in 4.8 plus hoyo does have a type schedule to show clips or hints of the new nation in the .7 update steams with .8 giving as much more visual information
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
@@isaiahhaley4816 the thing is that the math doesn't lie. If they released version 4.8, then the anniversary would be in 5.0. Every update always lasts 42 days, unless they make two of them shorter like they did in the past, but I don't know if that would actually be enough to be back on schedule. I think it would be more feasible to merge 4.7 and 4.8, especially because 4.7 is usually a filler. Maybe, they'll give us Dainsleif in the first half and the summer event in the second half of 4.7 and then go straight to Natlan
@isaiahhaley4816
4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming or they could just take away fewer days of the banners plus I don’t see the problem with the anniversary being on the release of natlan if anything, it just gives us more content on the nation and I mean we all the anniversary gifts are going to be shit but it really doesn’t matter matter which update the anniversary is going to be celebrated on if they were really gonna knockout 4.7 and 4.8 together then they should’ve released arlecchino with clorinde then sigewinne and sethos then Emilie
@isaiahhaley4816
4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming plus star rails schedule is an exactly on time either it takes at least 3 to 4 months just for one update
@marcusbullock2753
4 ай бұрын
I just realized something. Since she is cursed does that mean she can't properly have children of her own do to the fire curse thing in her body or blood? If so that's kinda sad man. So an orphanage is literally the best she can manage.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
Technically, yes, you should be right. A curse, especially one on a nation, is a punishment, so in theory she shouldn't be allowed to have kids, but then again, she's aging and she's not from thousands of years ago, when the curse was laid upon Khaenri'ah, she has ancestors who had children and eventually she was born, so she could have children... But, as you said, considering that her blood is basically fire, I really can't see a fatus growing in those conditions. This is an interesting concept, and being a fantasy world, her unique biology could allow her to actually have children. The problem, in that case, is that a biological child would probably have the same curse, so she wouldn't want to have a child that is going to suffer just like she does. So yeah, it's actually sad and her direction an orphanage is probably the best for her condition.
@strivyus
4 ай бұрын
21:45 this is exactly the reason behind my last comment on your post before the video! When I said that we’re slowly getting closer to the truth about phanes and its shades (or moons for 3 of them). So exciting to know that we got the same conclusion! 🤩 One thing I could say about the crimson moon is the fact that moons are gates to another worlds, this explain the glitch effect on Arlecchino, because her powers are out of teyvat. Another example is the RED “path” (a small version of the moon’s gate) opened by the unknown goddess at the beginning of our story. This can also explains the dark purple path that abyss heralds can use (also our twin), and that’s why for example Breacher Primus are considered “OTHERWORLDLY organisms”. And finally, I found another relation between Moon-shade-phanes, the key are the 6 wings on arlecchino: just like Seraphims, the creatures closest to god, and of course, the 4 shades should be the beings closest to phanes. There are more details about this theory, but I’ll keep them until Remuria’s video!
@strivyus
4 ай бұрын
Oh I didn’t say it, but the dark purple path aren’t related to crimson moon but the ABYSS MOON (different color, different moon) 👌🏾
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
Yeah, the three moon seem like they're very much related to fate and either the shades or the heavenly principles, but there's always a chance that the have nothing to do with it and they're building up this obvious belief, only to shatter it in a later update. We do have three moons in Teyvat (if I didn't miss some more, which is entirely possible): one in the sky, one in Khaenri'ah and one in that domain that I hate, so I can't remember which one it is (maybe Cecilia Garden? I don't remember), which is very very interesting, especially if we consider the fact that two are supposed to have shattered in the past, since in Sumeru there's something that said that the dust from the destroyed moons arrived on the ground, carrying with it memories of the past. As for the glitch, it is entirely possible that she's fighting against the curse that is trying to dispose of her, so sometimes it manages to almost get to her, but she comes back, reason why one of the poses is her suffering. Now, if Susty's portal is related to the Crimson Moon, then the moons are related to the shades, at least three of them, considering that one created the whole universe, so he would be Teyvat itself. As for the Breacher Primus, if I'm not mistaken, they are Elynas's cells, so the other world in this case, would still be the abyss, just like the Izumo and Takamagahara example I made in the video. I'm realizing that you are of the school of thought according to which Phanes is the Primordial One. I'm with the other school of thought, so Phanes is one of the shades to me. Still, the six wings kinda remind me of the mural in the domains. If I'm not mistaken (and I just got home and I'm extremely tired), there's a "World" surrounded by 6 "eyes" that look like wings. Considering my belief, it would be Phanes in the center (the creator of the microcosm, so he represents Teyvat) and 3 shades on one side and 3 heavenly principles on the other. I'll soon start working on Remuria's script, but considering how dead inside and outside I am right now, I don't think I'll be able to do it today....
@strivyus
4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming yeah that's my theory, specially because in every domain we can see 5 crowns from the sky (Above the tree). I think they are: Phanes (the sun & primordial one), the 3 moons, and the DARK SUN (the 4th shade, who I think is the SINNER). But anyways, we still have to wait for more info. Oh and of course, I forgot to say GREAT VIDEO AS ALWAYS my friend! 😁😁
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
@@strivyus we have an entirely different idea of the shades, the heavenly principles and the Sinner XD But thank you!! I'm happy you liked it!!! XD
@skygazer8549
4 ай бұрын
7:12 personally when i saw those 3 little creatures I immediately thought of the 3 moon sisters 'cuz of how Seelie-like their appearance was and it would make sense that they're playing around with Peruere since she's probably one of the last descendant of the Crimson Moon dynasty whom actually worshiped the Moon/ moon sisters. But then I saw another one in the background, which kinda makes me doubt it now haha If we're going by your theory, then maybe they're the afterimages of the siblings she may or may not have killed with her own hands in her youth.
@VeraldoAncodini
4 ай бұрын
Those are probably her ancestors, one more actually appears after the fight, except it has different coloring, clearly affected by the Balemoon curse.
@marcusbullock2753
4 ай бұрын
Her glitching like an animatronic freaks me out lol.
@marcusbullock2753
4 ай бұрын
I just want to know where is she from and if she's related to Khanreiah why isn't she cursed like the others in a different way though.
@coconeko7097
4 ай бұрын
Interesting theories. It would make sense if two of her ancestors left her because of her curse she inherited from being born of two Crimson Moon descendants. As for Natlan… well I’m not too sure. It would be so cool if her power was the Sacred Flames. I was about to say “but how would any other Natlan character be outside their homeland without consequences?” But then remembered she wasn’t a native in the first place lmao. I can wait for you to wait about Natlan and the Unfinished Reverie set! As for the sacred flames, I wonder if every nation somewhere has like this primordial elemental body which is the source of all the elemental beings and powers with an avatar being to be in control of it? (Ie Egeria and previous Hydro Sovereign of the primordial sea, source of all hydro, and Rukkadevata and Irminsul being the source of Dendro.) I wonder if these sacred flames is the source of all pyro. And maybe Murata was the one to guard it? Idk. Either way I can’t wait for Natlan
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
We don't really know why there are no Natlaners outside the nation. It was kinda arbitrarily decided that there's a curse keeping them from leaving, but there's no proof of that at all, so we don't know if there are consequences if they leave. The guy from the Saurian event is (hopefully) going to tell us. But yeah, Angelica is from Liyue. About the Primordial Elements, it's something I've been talking about with multiple viewers here in the comment section. We kinda came to the conclusion that they may be: Hydro - Primordial Sea Pyro - Primal Fire Anemo - Thousand Winds Dendro - Irminsul Geo - Leylines While the last two are tricky. I believe that Electro is connected to the Abyss, so the abyss itself would be the Primal Electro. The reason is that, in the book of revelations, when we use the Abyss Portals to move around, there's electricity, lightnings coming out of it, and it's not really the first case in which we see the Abyss and Lightnings together. While for Cryo, the only thing that's left is the false sky. Since Teyvat is a plane, maybe it's some Flatearther reference. According to them, there's a tall, insurmountable ice wall at the edges of the earth that keeps everything inside. Since it's Snezhnaya, the ice wall would make sense, but what's actually keeping everything inside the microcosm, is the fake sky that, in theory, encapsulates the whole thing...
@coconeko7097
4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming I believe what you say about Electro and the Abyss. With Ei saying that it is eternity and her electro that is the closest to the heavenly principles. And that would also make sense with your upside down abyss theory. It’s also seem similar to Honkai’s Quantum or void element. Which leaves Cryo and the ether element also mentioned in Enkanomiya. I wonder if Cryo is related to that somehow… Also I would love to see a giant ice wall encapsulating Snezhnaya like ramparts.
@badistbrother8384
4 ай бұрын
Scaramouche could have found her abandoned in Khanriah during his campaigns to the Abyss. The reason why there is no lore about is because Scaramouche was wiped from the world tree.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
But we don't know where Scaramouche accessed the Abyss, although, considering that he was in Mondstadt, we could think he used the Spiral Abyss rather than Khaenri'ah...
@isaiahhaley4816
4 ай бұрын
With arlecchino even if she was Fontainian I don’t think she would wield pneamousia if she could because she has a different vision that’s not from Fountaine
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
Pneuma and Ousia are not Vision related, they are innate Arkhés (and I'm quoting here), so the Fontainians are born with either Pneuma affinity or Ousia affinity, regardless of which kind of vision they have
@jacobbenjamin2664
4 ай бұрын
Yaaaaaay time to listen to this while I farm Aroechinnos boss mats
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
I'm farming for her right now as well!!! Only, I'm trying to enhance her weapon, but there are too few Praetorian Golems....
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
Have you tried farming for her artifacts? Because I've only been getting the Unfinished Reverie... Like, apart from two relics, it's ALWAYS the Unfinished Reverie...
@jacobbenjamin2664
4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming I haven’t even tried the Domain yet. I’m dreading farming for a new set of artifacts lol. I slapped a 4pc Gladiator on her and said it’s good enough for now lol. You definitely not the first person I’ve heard mention drop rates for her artifacts being TERRIBLE. It’s gonna be like farming for Raiden all over again 🤦🏻. It took me like a month and a half of farming cause Emblem artifacts just NEVER dropped and if they did they would have like double Def stats 😑🙃
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
@@jacobbenjamin2664 yeah, the Shogun (but also Ayato and Qiqi) is the main reason why I came to hate farming for artifacts... Still, I keep getting the wrong set, but today I finally managed to get all her right artifacts.... I gave her Gladiator back.... I'm giving up on her signature artifact set.... You know what the problem is? EVERYTHING levels up except for Crit Dmg and Crit Rate. One artifact only leveled up Elemental Mastery, nothing else. So I'll keep my whopping 14% crit rate (I want to cry) and 120% crit dmg and call it a day. It's impossible, it feels rigged beyond imagination. Maybe I'll try again once Arlecchino is old news and some other Stat is more important for a new character, maybe then crit rate and Crit Dmg will be leveled up. Oh, just to be clear, I enhanced 15 artifacts...
@jacobbenjamin2664
4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming yo same!!! I swear to god every time I roll artifacts it will, without fail, roll into Def and HP like EVERYTIME. I was upgrading her artifacts last night and literally gasped a bit when I realized I rolled into attack….once. 😭. I swear there is some hidden chance that makes it a lower possibility to get good stats. Probably so they don’t “give us anxiety”. Like, Hoyo I’ll even take the anxiety if you give me a good artifacts once in a while 😂😭😂
@alexanderericson8628
4 ай бұрын
Hmmm her fate is the real fate, because her story quest is in Latin. Normally if a story diverse from the constellation like Neuvilette or zhongli. I guess it could be possible that her second story quest has a different name if they want to make a play on her being a cinder of two worlds. Or she is an ashen shadow herself It caught my eye that her title on the banner was Ashen shadow
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
I think that the fate defying aspect of Arlecchino probably has to do with the fact that she managed to survive the curse with her strength and using the curse itself to break free from her destined end. She was, originally, a normal but cursed child, a human, so she has a real constellation. The fact that she defied fate, is something that came later and the constellation wouldn't have been able to predict it anyway, otherwise she wouldn't have defied it in the first place. Differently is for Neuvillette, who doesn't belong to Teyvat (if anything, Teyvat belongs to him), so he doesn't have a real constellation, he is his own constellation. Fate does not apply to him, so (in Remuria's terms) Fortuna and figure him out and write his destiny in the stars
@alexanderericson8628
4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming It's possible I think her curse has deeper roots. I think it's Theyvats original force trying to right what went wrong. I've heard stories of a spider living in Irminsul I think she in many ways represents that. She is a threat to Irminsul in many ways but live in symbiosis as well, becasue I think Irminsul is a parasite very much like the erdtree in Elden Ring I think there is a high likely hood that they were inspired of that story when they decided to make this game. I also believe Tsaritsa learned this somehow it happened after Sustainer changed the timeline to save Theyvat. I think Venti and her saw something that the other archons didn't. Her conclusion was that humanity has been enslaved to reproduce the simulation of Theyvat over and over and she decided to burn it all away. Why Genshin debates what is a dream or not is because it matters what perspective you take. I don't think Tsaritsa has entrusted the other harbingers with the truth she probably said that burning down Irminsul will free them but if I am right it will unleash the entire abyss at the same time. Now Arlechino plans to swoop in right after and revive the Crimson Dynasty that's why she is grooming Lyney to be a king, but that's another story.
@ahoge734
4 ай бұрын
regarding her age, shouldnt u have added another 5 years considering the twins have been in the hoth for ten? wouldnt thag make her around 27 ?
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
I don't understand. When she defeated Crucabena, she burned down everything, every record she had ever written down. When the children brought up the documents of the executed children, they went back only 5 years, because that's when she became the Knave and started recording her own records. When does it say that the twins entered the House 10 years ago? If that has been said before, then I'm at a loss, things wouldn't add up anymore
@hiimbobbyo631
4 ай бұрын
Angelica lied about who she was tho? And leobrandt turned into a hilichurl there’s no way they’re her ancestors p
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
As Pierro said, the story is fictitious but the key aspects are accurate. Remember that the ending of the novel was added in the second edition of the book, so that's easily the fiction side of the story, which means that Hleobrant never transformed into a monster as soon as he got out of Khaenri'ah (also because why would he have in the first place), and Angelica wasn't the personification of freedom. They were probably two people who fled from Khaenri'ah when the Eclipse Dynasty fell, so Hleobrant was probably cursed, but who knows? Maybe Angelica was already pregnant and managed to deliver an asymptomatic child? The possibilities are endless
@Kynokefalos
4 ай бұрын
Now you record yourself with more people? You could tell me :P. Nice that you liked the update, since they're a lot of people crying about the "tiny" map and the ending of Arlecchino quest. Now i think of it what IF the Crimson dynasty took revenge at the end against the Eclipse dynasty? Maybe by the hand of Gold, and thus ocasionated the cataclysm of Khaenri'ah, because now i think of it, the war was a lot about Alchemy demons vs Khaeri'ah machines, a global disaster that forced the gods to took hands in the matter.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
What do you mean by recording myself with more people? Anyway, I do understand people complaining about the map being very small, even I was disappointed with that because I like exploring and I got 100% exploration rate without even trying on basically the first day of the update... But the quests are a completely different thing. The stories were interesting and well made, so I was more than satisfied with them! As for Rhinedottir, her being present in both dynasties and surviving both destructions could mean that she was involved with both, but I have the feeling that she doesn't really have a sense of belonging to anywhere and she couldn't care enough to avenge the Crimson Moon Dynasty, apart from the fact that they seem to have caused their own destruction, so why take it on the Eclipse dynasty anyway? I would be more inclined to think that she had the tools to pursue her passion in Khaenri'ah, she made a mistake that caused the end of the first dynasty, she simply kept on doing what she wanted and made another, bigger mistake that caused the cataclysm. Then she left and kept doing what she wanted, creating multiple Albedos, and it's not like they haven't caused issues as well. Even the current Albedo is a risk for Mondstadt...
@Kynokefalos
4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming Wait, it was a trick of the camera? The scene with Arlecchino and Diluc are both your characters? About the map, well, is like Netflix issue, i prefer quality rather than quantity. I see this map and update like that, Chenyu Vale was a lot about quantity, but Remuria was about quality, right? I hope now with this new info Dainslef quest would be awesome. Narrative speaking, we needed to learn about Arlecchino before we meet Dainslef.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
@@Kynokefalos oooohhh, yeah, it was just me, both my characters XD I have access to my brother's account since he doesn't play (if you look carefully, you'll see the flames for Crucabena's tombstone are not always there), and I just recorded multiple scenes using this secondary account as a videocamera basically, while I switched characters, and then edited everything. Similar is for the last scene with Cyno. I was recording with my account, but I moved Cyno on my tablet XD I mean yeah, the quality was definitely great and the quantity can be ignored, but then again, once I'm done with the exploration and the quest, what am I supposed to do? They even added a whole incredibly huge strip of land with sumeru's borders and it's emptier that the void of space. And let's not talk about Bayda Harbor.... That's just sad.... But yeah, we needed Arlecchino before Dainsleif. I just hope he's going to tell us something actually valuable, rather than his usual "I'll tell you next time"...
@Kynokefalos
4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming Maybe the new Sumeru area is either for Cyno, for Dainsleif or for Khaenri'ah underground, acting as the roof.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
@@Kynokefalos I sure hope so, although Khaenri'ah really seems to be a domain, so it exists in a different place altogether. If Cyno's story is taking place there, then it's still weird that it's so absurdly empty....
@b-trixangel198
4 ай бұрын
I feel like the house of the hearth sounds too much like a cult, like yeah arlechinno made it better than previously and you can leave now even if costs your memory, but still sending children to dangerous missions, the fatui seem like a organization were the ends justify the means, hence why dottore still here, but i still consider them evil, just because they are chaotic good doesnt means they didnt cause profund harm in a lot of inoccent lives and arlechinno is part of that, her good qualities everybody boosts about are not redeeming in my eyes, much like scaramouche who comitted crimes too i dont think he is redeemed yet, but i can comprehend people liking morally gray characters, just dont claim they are good people, arlechinno murdered a guy by crushing his skull with stilleto heels, i can respect the style but him being a bad guy doesnt justify his murder, do you think a true good character like yoimiya or nahida would do the same thing as her? Sure she was indoctrinated into this life but clervie was a good person to the point she was wanting to die because of the cruelty, she probably wouldnt want the house exist at all and just be a normal orphanage that would be truly good, what arlechinno does is not morally good, even if she does it in a good way in the end she still grooming child soldiers and spys
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
I never really said that Arlecchino was an overall good person, I always said that she wasn't evil with her children like people were convinced of. As I said in the video, I do recognize the fact that she is ruthless, still comparing to a random murderer who kills for money or for "love" (a twisted version of it, at least), I'd still prefer someone who crushes someone's head with her stilettos, if that person has been keeping children in a basement for human trafficking (was that the crime?) and beating a little girl to death.... Yes, she's growing children into soldiers, but then again, those children would have been abandoned in the streets until they died out. If they don't want to live that life, they can leave the house. If they are okay with it, it's still their decision. Let's all remember that we all love Wriothesley, and he's a murderer, but he repented so he's good. Arlecchino has to follow the orders of the Fatui, but she will eventually rebel against them to save her children, as she hinted, so despite everything, she will put them first no matter what. Scaramouche never repented ot regretted anything he's done... I've never considered him good, not even remotely and in a fever dream. He's not a Grey character, he's pitch black...
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
I mean, if we want to be completely honest, should we talk about the traveler? Before we met Dainsleif in the Chasm, we were just killing monsters. Once he told us that the hilichurls are the people of Khaenri'ah, he is still doing it without even thinking about it once...
@b-trixangel198
4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming In order to be playable they have to be "good" in a way, scaramouche regrets his misguided revenge but stills wants revenge on dottore, childe and arlechinno remind me of the morally aplied to soldiers, murder is wrong and bad but a soldier follows orders, so who is the bad one the soldier who executes the action or the person who orders him to execute the action, im a purist in saying both are wrong but i recognize this is a morally gray area, arlechinno is a relateble person because we know have we been through the same circumtances we couldve been just like her, but still maybe its my biased againsts the fatui for even tolerating dottore and crucabena for anything, no matter the end this is clearly not the way to go, since in real life the instances where grooming child soldiers comes to mind most terrorist organizations, they think their goal is noble but they still putting guns in the hands of children and putting them into warzones, the fatui may have distinct goals and not be so brutal now but still a morally repreensible organization, even if same soldiers are cool people
@wyntik
3 ай бұрын
diluc main W
@TheBilayer
4 ай бұрын
I smell Ragnarok coming.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
Sooner or later, it will come, especially in the last nation we will visit, Khaenri'ah. Can't wait to see if I got at least part of the finale of the whole story right!
@davidjohnson8273
4 ай бұрын
4:00 there's many contradictions between the animation and the story quest and voice lines of Arlecchino. I suppose if you wanted to make lore out of it you could say the animation was an alternate samsara and that's why Scaramouche is there... but it really feels more like sloppiness. Does that building really feel like a modern day Fontainian building? To me it felt like an old disused building though not yet a complete wreck. So there's no way it would have been rebuilt and then abandoned again inside of one year. But if you are trying to reconcile the animation and game then.... yeah good luck with that; you'll need it. Oh good point about the SQ screwing up Vision theories too. What a hot mess. I knew that but I guess I had blocked it out of my memory in recoil against the suck. Also why does Arlecchino make a big deal about saying she only pretends to be from Fontaine when she basically is from Fontaine? At least in the sense that she was raised there. I guess maybe she means only "I wouldn't have dissolved in the primordial sea water". Again you make a valiant attempt to write a speculative history of Arlecchino visiting Snezhnaya to receive her Vision there, but as you say the kids were not allowed to travel. Kind of a huge part of the story since it was why Clervie was so keen to escape and of course if there was some way to go abroad or temporarily leave the orphanage then that whole back story of Clervie is trashed on a deep emotional level. But there's no way in hell Crucabena lets Arlecchino her number one student, out of her sight and if she had got training from someone superior to the 4th ranked Harbinger - who would that be? Capitano? But Arlecchino herself says all her combat training came from the very person she desired to kill. Oh another screw up on Visions was when Arlecchino says something like her Vision shows she's fighting fate whereas René says it means the exact opposite. Nice arithmetic on the age of Arlecchino btw. That's what I guessed but others seemed sure she was 27-29 sort of age. It's just another consistency error though because they have Arlecchino behaving far older than that. How is someone who is so young, has no emotion, and has lived in an orphanage all her life, able to be such precise appraiser of human emotion in others? It makes as much sense as Neuvillette playing the dumb "what do I know about human emotion?" card after living with humans for 5 centuries. They're both tropes of course, and as a silly trope at least Neuvillette's works, but Arlecchino's doesn't. I can believe her as a skilled killer but an emotional genius? No. Pick a trope MiHoyo. Is she emotionally stunted or an emotional genius? Yeah the glitch wasn't even acknowledge and even worse it feels like a few people in Remuria were glitching as if it was all just a cool graphic thing for 4.6 and you're not even meant to think Arlecchino is especially glitching at all. I can appreciate under playing stuff, but they already under played the whole Crimson Moon thing, to the verge of being almost meaningless. The glitch didn't even get one word. Not one word, not one scene, not one hint. 8:06 Her ancestry can't come from Perinheli and "Angelica" because neither of them were Khaenri'ahns by blood. I mean -- if they even existed which they probably didn't. As for how the Crimson Moon dynasty ended, how does any dynasty end? They got killed by the people of the next dynasty. And Dainsleif says the Crimson Moon was getting "revenge" on the Eclipse, right? Everyone's new favourite Chinese deeper dig into the English translation. So revenge implies a prior wrong, therefore the Eclipse killed off the Crimson Moon. Yes it's awful story telling but apparently the nonsense about building an orphanage for all the zero child descenders they had is literally true which is just sad. Nobody creates an institution to take care of a problem that doesn't exist. And if there ever had been even one child outlander from what Alice says one might show up every century or five. So the entire orphanage was doe one child at a time? And likely never had even one such child in it's entire history? Why would anyone bother to create such an institution? But we're told they did. 9:51 But Perinheri is not Khaenri'ahn so he doesn't have the bloodline. He's an outlander. 10:23 I got the impression that the king mentioned there is none other than Irmin and is talking about the last king of Khaenri'ah much much later on during the Eclipse. In other words the Cataclysm might have been caused by Irmin being persuaded to do something stupid by this ancient (and reviled) line of priests of a dead dynasty. A cult. The weapon description is also a hot mess of ambiguity and I didn't see anything worth talking about in it. But again, good luck with that. If the Crimson Moon was so great they wouldn't have died out. If they could defy fate then Arlecchino's constellation would be "Arlecchino" and not "Purgatory Fire". Also if they could defy fate they wouldn't need a Descender. Wow. Pretty dense video today. Have to take a break half way through.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
The video is NOT from Arlecchino's perspective. It's not a flashback, it's the real events, hence Scaramouche is there. This is something we've already talked about, but I guess you won't accept it. That's okay. The building doesn't even remotely look abandoned, but okay, that's okay too. I don't think any vision theory has been screwed up, it's easier to think you're trying to find faults where there aren't, as you usually do. Arlecchino was the King, the one that survived. The House raises soldiers, and the best soldiers would be sent to Snezhnaya, the HQ. Clervie didn't become the King, so she wasn't allowed to leave. Going to Snezhnaya doesn't necessarily mena training under another Harbinger, it could simply mean training with the other operatives with which she would have ended up going on missions with, since she was the only child of the House left alive. Plus, and this is, again, pointless to repeat, but the Harbingers' ranks are not static, they can change. It was made clear by Arlecchino herself. What she says about her vision is not a screw up. You're taking Rene as an example, the guy who calculated a completely wrong World Formula and acted on it, convinced he was 100% right... Oh, because those 5 years more would have made her so much more mature? She had to grow up extremely fast, having a very bad life forces you to do that, whether you like it or not, so I don't see how Arlecchino being 23 would be a problem in term of maturity. Still, again, it's not a screw up, it's just your opinion on how long it takes for a person to grow up mentally. As for Neuvillette, again, it's not a dumb card. He's lived with humans for 500 years, but he never mixed with them, he's always kept them at a distance, so he never learned what human emotions are. You could look at a steak for years without eating it, but you won't miracolously learn its taste. Characters can have a second Story Quest, so the glitching can always be explained there. I clearly said and wrote at least 5 times that it was Hleobrant and Angelica. The Eclipse never killed the Crimson Moon. The Crimson Moon Semblance made it abundantly clear that there was a smaller cataclysm caused by what they did when they saw in the inverted image of the sky. And to think I spent a day adding the on-screen text to show what I was talking about... Everything for you is awful story telling, so what are we even talking about? There hasn't been one single quest that you didn't dislike, so the question remains: why are you even playing the game, if the story telling is so bad in your eyes? I don't know why you got convinced I've ever took Perinheri into consideration... How, for the gratious gods, could the king from the Crimson Moon Dynasty, that existed during the Archon War, be the same King that ruled during the Eclipse Dynasty basically more than 2000 years later? Is it maybe that you didn't really understand what you read, hence the story telling is always bad for this precise reason? And no, the description of the weapon is not a hot mess. If you read it without the intention to find issues with it as if it were your only mission in life, maybe you would have an easier time. What does it even mean? The Eclipse Dynasty was also great and they fell. See? You're just forcing issues that make literally no sense at all. And no, Arlecchino is not a dragon, so her constellation is based on her whole life. Even the traveler's constellation is not Aether/Lumine and he/she can defy fate. (by the way, cleansing fire) So, with Neuvillette and Focalors clearly able to defy fate, is it time for the traveler to go away? Oh, wait, are you going to say that it's another case of awful writing here? Maybe you should try to enjoy the game for once, rather that looking for things that don't work and invent them when there are none. You would have more fun
@davidjohnson8273
4 ай бұрын
Yeah I wasn't expecting much in reply. There's really very little to work with. > Hleobrant and Angelica Oh really? My mistake. But I doubt I'm the only one. Well that change doesn't help you since Hleobrant is Hilichurled and Angelica didn't even like him. She appears to reveal herself to not actually exist at the end of the story but if you interpret her as a real woman she obviously wanted Perinheri and not his friend who was too weak for her, even before he became a Hilichurl. Feels like she low key despised him and used him. Zero children. Zero relationship. > ruled during the Eclipse Dynasty basically more than 2000 years later? The weapon description is talking about the Eclipse dynasty before the Cataclysm and -- well it skips around a bunch and is super confusing as usual. There's some talking about each. Your response was dismissive and disappointing but again, there's so little to work with. ----------------------- I think I'll skip commenting on the rest of the video because it's about three things which usually I have come to realize mean you should skip the rest of the theory as soon as they are mentioned (1) inverted Teyvat - always meaningless (2) Moon Sisters - always meaningless (3) trying to shoe horn Teyvat into another MiHoyo product - so bad. I watched the inverted bit twice just trying to understand what you were saying. Didn't work. Now don't get upset at me when you yourself said you couldn't understand it. I am reluctant to skip out any part of your videos but you hit the trifecta of unfounded speculation there. But again - there's so little to work with here. Where there's no data, surely speculation and wild stories will fill in the gaps. Nobody else I've seen did any better than you. It's just been a dry lore patch 4.5 and 4.6 Looking forward to your explanation of why "Phobos" is called "Phobos" @@ShadowX5452Gaming
@ShadowX5452Gaming
4 ай бұрын
@@davidjohnson8273 you do realize that the ending of Perinheri is clearly stated in the book itself as a fictional ending added on the second edition by a novelist? Why would have Hleobrant turned into a monster in the first place, if the story takes place during the Archon War and not the cataclysm? Same goes for Angelica, she's not a Seele or whatever. I mean, these are easy things to spot on, especially with the book literally telling you what is real and what is not, and with Pierro reiterating it, too. And by the way, she "despised him" "zero children. Zero relationship" and still she fled Khaenri'ah with him, not Perinheri.... The weapon talks about the Crimson Moon Dynasty, not the Eclipse one. It literally says "But the so-called repayment never came, and the dark sun fell to the same ignorance and arrogance". But there is none so deaf as he who will not hear.... I mean, I'm not so preoccupied with what you think is unfounded speculation. I mean, even if the heavenly principles appeared in the game and said "yes, the world was capsized because of the fight", you would still say that you are right and it's stupid speculation that means nothing and that the heavenly principles are lying.... That's how far you would, no doubt, get to convince yourself to be right. So, you didn't like those parts? That's entirely fine. Of course no one did anything better, we can all only be wrong in your eyes and every patch is dry and pointless. Are you IX, the Nihility?
@jnliewmichael4235
4 ай бұрын
@@ShadowX5452Gaming"Are you IX, the Nihility?" Damn... I'm keeping that for future use someday.
@hiimbobbyo631
4 ай бұрын
you got a lot wrong here
@Coach_Ren
4 ай бұрын
Why not detail some of them for an actually constructive comment?
@Whenpigfly666
4 ай бұрын
-Tells you you're wrong -Doesn't elaborate -Leaves
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