Theres something quite poetically hilarious about pablo accidentally killing one of the enemies when he was actively *trying* to not kill them for the purpose of explaining the parazon changes...
@Fruit_handler
3 жыл бұрын
De: we buffed glaives so people can enjoy them more Also de: we are gonna nerf glaives so people won't overuse them anymore What a way to say that the monkey paw curled into a middle finger
@how8955
3 жыл бұрын
And to think i spent hours trading for a Glaive Prime and got lucky to roll a Glaive riven ·_·
@chickennuggcorgi
3 жыл бұрын
To think I was having fun with a unique build involving complete status mayhem with glaives and cedo Oh well :)
@KaiSoDaM
3 жыл бұрын
Glad i had glaive prime before the buff so i never spent any play on it. Oh yeah abuse while can haha
@Sammonoske
3 жыл бұрын
Glaives are fine. Just quick throws were nerfed and the 1.2 second charge can be modded out.
@Lemmuel14
3 жыл бұрын
What are you on about. Most builds would still use the heavy atk speed thing and the dmg wasnt affected on the heavy throw w/ heavy atk explosion, just quick throws.
@commenter_HIMIK-MAN
3 жыл бұрын
Broz: I'll just stack Quickening with Primed Fury lmao DE: I see. - Quickening and Gladiator Vise are now Quickening Fury and Gladiator Fury.
@mrezu6653
3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@waterdog737
3 жыл бұрын
May I suggest for you to use Arcane Strike as well? Just in case
@nobody4y
3 жыл бұрын
@@waterdog737 arcane strike is now arcane furry and cannot be proced with any furry mod
@technoviking2415
3 жыл бұрын
@@nobody4y oh well lol
@Lord_Phoenix95
3 жыл бұрын
@@nobody4y good thing there's no other Furry mods.
@disantos5974
3 жыл бұрын
DE: "We want to give you the tools to progress to optimal play with a new series of Mods..." Also DE: "Once you reach optimal play we will nerf these Mods"
@bamboozledbob3298
3 жыл бұрын
Best desicion DE has made over the last years: Adding a dark mode to the forum.
@deminisis
3 жыл бұрын
Didn't know it existed either...
@RheubenRheuben
3 жыл бұрын
DE “To many people have switched to the dark mode meta to we are rebalancing it. While it will still be dark it will be 33% less dark to make light mode more viable”
@Zal0vid
3 жыл бұрын
@@RheubenRheuben Lmao
@kyneticist
3 жыл бұрын
@@RheubenRheuben Dark Mode now requires Dark Mode to activate.
@vonbraunprimarch
3 жыл бұрын
Virgin dark mode users.
@Poppenheimer69
3 жыл бұрын
Warframe is my favourite competitive shooter.
@danill5955
3 жыл бұрын
Overwatch gets less balance patches than warframe lmaooo
@skhighglitch4217
3 жыл бұрын
Vauban Gaming
@ungoogle
3 жыл бұрын
ye, who cares about balance in a PvE game...
@brythonbrowning1950
Жыл бұрын
@@ungoogle Eh, well generally something being "really good" yeah that shouldn't be nerfed ya know? If anything buff weak stuff to the really good so it's the standard, you're a space ninja bada*s, you should be broken. But you shouldn't be able to effectively afk, if you don't look like you're being a frame of war because something is so broken, something should happen, not make it a*s of course, but just fix it. However, melee is EXACTLY what we want, space ninja bada*ses dashing through hordes of enemies. We should've just buffed weaponry. Balance in a PvE game means you can use what you want and always have options to have fun, in PvP competitive games you can have just a select few effective weapons and make the rest super niche asf (Cs Go weapon selection for example). With PvE games where we are SPACE NINJAS we can be broken and should be aslong as we are being space ninjas. (Again, I can't emphasize enough how everything I said is to emphasize at how much this nerf to melee was unnecessary)
@ravencrovax
3 жыл бұрын
You know what showed off finishers really well other than the parazon? The old Covert Lethality mod. You know... Before they castrated it.
@mohanjanisthere
3 жыл бұрын
I miss pocket sand inaros instakill...
@nicholasgrey5225
3 жыл бұрын
FACT LEVEL 9 billion
@kingkobra4910
3 жыл бұрын
But being able to one shot one enemy at any level in a horde game was too op 🤓
@Ayzev
3 жыл бұрын
@@kingkobra4910 Truly. You can't even sustain life support in a survival with max speed one-shotting finishers, that's how long the animation takes.
@EldestOrion
3 жыл бұрын
I was trying to think of this from a devil's advocate position, but I think that ultimately the issue is that DE is trying to balance the game around a combat system that they believe is interesting and has depth when in reality... it doesn't. Even in comparison to other "horde shooter" games, Warframe stands out as having extremely powerful players. Whether its Warframes or the weapons themselves, everything seems designed to wipe out enemies as fast as possible with zero interaction. I dont even think of Warframe as a horde looter shooter - its a goddamned musuo game disguised as a sci fi fantasy shooter. A vast majority of the content and enemies just dont support justifying the extra time to kill or complexity some weapons offer because they're only designed to stand there and die. Then DE gets upset and says "Well why are you killing our pointless bullet sponges so fast?" Increasing the levels and armor and health doesnt change that a Lancer is the most basic barebones enemy type possible and they also make up like 80% of a given level's enemies. Warframe has been a power fantasy game for a lot of people for a long time and to point at some things saying they disagree with the amount of power fantasy they let you fulfill then either brutally or pointlessly nerfing them just feels... meaningless.
@ANDELE3025
3 жыл бұрын
>they believe is interesting and has depth when in reality... it doesn'tHere is the extra problem, it has a lot of potential depth if DE actually just bothered to crunch the numbers and STOP REMOVING PARTS THAT GIVE DEPTH.Melee for example used to have a lot of dashes that have keyboard steer (much like how slide attacks still do and lavos 2 got), sprint influencing dash speed (allowing you to control gap closing better), attacks that had slowdown modifiers that arent just animation time be it on movement (broken bull being the prime case) or actual attack speed (crimson dervish or rending crane for example) and even originally promised free movement on forward combos but making them low damage compared to high multi static attacks.Enemies actively go for ancient auras, eximi fields, nully bubbles, etc, try to hide behind shield lancers, hellions try to not fly up when they dont have broad line of sight for their barrages, infested will slowly circle around if you are in the air or unpathable terrain for a chain of hooks/back projectiles/infested goop fields.Problem is enemies after some level 80 or so start having chunking attacks that bite through base/common mod ehp (vit, steel and redirect) and thus force the requirement of enemy must be binary (dead or alive) to not have a chance to live long enough to cause trouble or high DR uptime (or both), yet DE refuses to have enemies spawn in numbers where if their damage output is flatlined to modded rank 30 (since our hp doesnt scale with enemy level) we could still be overwhelmed (Steel Path barely being what vanilla should be in numbers) or reduce both our damage and enemy ehp to around our ehp levels for enemy design to matter.Not to mention that they then half ass potentially cool options like lifted status simply because noone fucking played it for more than 3s to realize there is a reason why every game with vertical axis combat has a axis lock to effects that move enemies up and down.
@ratlinggull2223
3 жыл бұрын
@@ANDELE3025 I wish they would give manual blocking back too. I can't be bothered to learn enemy firing patterns and such because automatic blocking does it for me. It only makes me think what potential challenge the game could've had back in the day.
@zixx844
2 жыл бұрын
I think the problem is that DE never originally intended for the Tenno to become demi-gods, instead imagining them to be powerful beings that still have plenty of weaknesses and struggles. But as time went on, power creep brought in that ludo-narrative dissonance and DE just had to ignore the fact they had turned the Tenno into demi-gods in game and pretend they were still somewhat vulnerable. That original idea for what the Tenno were supposed to be has stayed with them and that has been informing their decisions. I am hoping though that the introduction of the drifter is DE's plan to essentially retcon the Tenno into narratively being the demi-god destroyers of all with the New War ending the "vulnerable and hurt kid" arc of the story. Like I do think that eventually DE is going to remove the child operators or have them take on more of a support role.
@ratlinggull2223
2 жыл бұрын
@@zixx844 That would be pretty bummer. I don't like playing gods.
@FireCamp105
3 жыл бұрын
DE straight up lying on the glaive section, "people complain about wanting to use normal attacks instead of throwing on glaives" yeah right bring me anyone who uses melee attacks on glaives as their primary source of damage
@analogicparadox
3 жыл бұрын
Me, because I don't like glaives But I just don't use glaives at all
@violetbliss4399
3 жыл бұрын
I would like to for fun... if it didn't feel so stiff. :(
@Truluvcockers
3 жыл бұрын
I love glaives but i don’t like the normal hit attacks I’ve never commented it or posted anything about it just feels really chunky or stiff feeling i want a normal attack so i can make combo builds for it
@amyyost7022
3 жыл бұрын
I do, but that’s just because I like the astral twilight animations. That being said, I don’t love the precedent of buffing the melee aspect at the cost of the throws. I do, though, appreciate that they made another melee weapon type require two speed mods while trying to stop folks from running two speed mods on melee.
@Sal-fg3rs
3 жыл бұрын
@@Truluvcockers You have Astral Twilight? It works well.
@kyroo1052
3 жыл бұрын
27:20 lol reminds me of the Eidolon problem. “I have to kill the Eidolon with my shitty Mote in order to get better Amps to kill the Eidolon with???”
@mistermaster4495
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, retarded game application of progress in game...
@landon9560
3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, there is an annoying way around that (ivara, stealth, get close to the little shits and pickpocket before killing them for a chance at 2 cores from them, do it for a night or two and you have enough standing to get the blueprints, its what i did), but the point still stands.
@michaelgrindy6913
3 жыл бұрын
@@landon9560 what amp blueprints would u recommend? Gonna try your Ivara idea tho 👌
@landon9560
3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelgrindy6913 i'd recommend going from a mote to a 1-1-1. It may not be the best, but it is 1000% better than the mote. I managed to solo a few eidolons with the 1-1-1 getting used to its mechanics and saving for better parts.
@DJackson747
3 жыл бұрын
Yep. I basically had to get carried by people who already did that unfortunate grid by the time I was able to do that content because the mote amps suck and are pointless toward that end. And that was when shield disruption and other things affected eidolons. So its even harder now for people starting out since DE systematically went after the things that people were using to make the fight a bit easier.
@lootbaglu
3 жыл бұрын
2 and a half hours DE must be shitting bricks
@waterdog737
3 жыл бұрын
They should be
@deadlyrobot5179
3 жыл бұрын
with dried cement on it.
@Xhawk777
3 жыл бұрын
They fear the brozime
@uwuowo1773
3 жыл бұрын
what if raetalius came back
@technoviking2415
3 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for gazs vid
@orangesouls7112
3 жыл бұрын
DE: We clearly don't play our game and you shouldn't either!
@how8955
3 жыл бұрын
Wish DE Pablo was the guy in charge of this mess
@TioMegamanX
3 жыл бұрын
@@how8955 the same one that failed at PR this time?
@TioMegamanX
3 жыл бұрын
B-b-b-b-but megan and becca play with us very often and they totally know how to mod and stuff, they even legit farmed for the new frame!!
@sfc1118
3 жыл бұрын
all those mods require a kill to trigger, no matter how much damage it gives me, the inconvienance is beyond measurement, once I fight enemys who are too strong I dont have those buffs, when I dont need those buffs I always have them on
@technoviking2415
3 жыл бұрын
DE logic
@MLDeS100
3 жыл бұрын
Surprised Brozime missed it
@commenter_HIMIK-MAN
3 жыл бұрын
Muh guns cant kill enemys
@frenchfriedbagel7035
3 жыл бұрын
@@commenter_HIMIK-MAN these mods will help boost your damage to kill the enemy tho.
@technoviking2415
3 жыл бұрын
@@Zydra_Zy your mentality has been nerf everything. And its a horde shooter of course you want to kill everything fast. Maybe you dont because you dont know how to build xd
@yukopangestu3293
3 жыл бұрын
27:06 That is my first thought of all of this... where is the sense of "So i need to do steel path, in order to do steel path?" Hey that's a very freaking good idea. I thought it is just me because most of the comments on the forum are not looking into this matter until i brought it up... I mean, how that make sense? Oh also, one other things that "high damage content" is eidolon, these things are not available for them (because kill requirement, and you kill the little guys with your operator which I believe it's separate entity from warframe) so good luck farming these just for steel path... :)
@UnusualDeathCause
3 жыл бұрын
"To be able to do X well, you must do a lot of X" - thats Warframe logic for everething if you think about it.
@aggammer3485
3 жыл бұрын
You do stuff in order to get better at said stuff, idk about you but that seems like basic prograssion to me
@UnusualDeathCause
3 жыл бұрын
@@aggammer3485 in a decent MMO, you do stuff to prepare for the next stuff :/
@NotShaikan
3 жыл бұрын
@@aggammer3485 that works if the start isn't painful. For example, on paper, I would love to go into eidolons and kill them to get better at them. Too bad that in practice starting out with your mote amp, no arcanes, etc is just painful.
@TheAssassin409
3 жыл бұрын
@@aggammer3485 Warframe: Do A to get gear to do A better. Do B to get gear to do B better. Do C to get gear to do C better. Any Proper MMO: Do A to get gear to do B. Do B to get gear to do C. Do C to get gear to do D.
@krovarus1911
3 жыл бұрын
@@TheAssassin409 I mean warframe is more comparable to looter games than mmos and in most looters you are farming/grinding to see bigger numbers pop out of the enemy, which these arcanes and mods will do.
@grigoryp.7366
3 жыл бұрын
There is a cool comment that sums this workshop on forums: "You burned my house down, gave me a cave and call it an upgrade. Thanks DE."
@justice5188
3 жыл бұрын
I quit playing this game about a year and a half ago now, used to whale hard for it because I loved the development team and gameplay. Just around the dismal release of railjack I saw the rapidly forming pattern of (Nerf Meta -> New Meta Emerges -> Nerf Meta -> New Meta Emerges -> Ect.) DE seems to be unable to decide where they want their game's meta to lie, and all it ends up doing is forcing it's players to heavily invest their time into new mods/weapons/arcanes/ect only for them to get nerfed into oblivion the next month. I don't mind the grind, but when my time spent grinding is rendered totally worthless with a simple patch it makes me less likely to try grinding again. I hate this shit, they were in such a good place at one point and now they're just crumbling.
@ArgKnoxville86
3 жыл бұрын
Moreover, it is a PvE game!! Why nerf things??? Are Grineer factions complaining?? What the hell?? Is the stalker crying in the forums he gets killed too easy??? I get some weapons are being more used, but the solution to that is "BUFF EVERYTHING ELSE... WHO CARES??"
@chaosgyro
3 жыл бұрын
@@ArgKnoxville86 The answer to your question lies in Diablo 3. Years of buffs with no compensating nerfs has led to stagnant building options requiring tens of thousands of percent bonus damage, swathes of new difficulty modes introduced, and all of it still being nothing but a speed farm that totally destroyed what used to be a fun, well paced game.
@justice5188
3 жыл бұрын
@@chaosgyro I think that's fair, but. I would also agree that DE is far too quick and heavy handed to slap anything they deem powerful with a nerf. Ultimately Warframe always was a game about power fantasy fulfilment, and it's players enjoy killing the most things in the quickest ways. I know DE has tried to shift this focus to a more "complex gameplay" oriented one but honestly that's never been what they were good at making nor is it what the player base plays for.
@chaosgyro
3 жыл бұрын
@@justice5188 Yeah, Warframe is most fun as a horde shooter, and DE seems to only halfheartedly embrace that. I'm not even arguing as a fan of the game. I quit awhile ago (around Kuva Lich time) after the cycle of open worlds kept drifting the game away from the content/gameplay cycle I found so fun. I just feel a pathological need to argue against the common "pve never needs nerfs" argument. 😉
@johngaynor4363
2 жыл бұрын
@@justice5188 make it mechanically complex in other ways, so the solution to every problem isn't "hit it with a big stick" rather than snapping our stick in two.
@GameyManatee3
3 жыл бұрын
Essentially they are nerfing melee and locking away the their gun buffs behind teshin’s steel path store. While nerfing steel essence farms that involve smeeta kavats, by adding a decay time for any steel essence that haven’t been picked up. Guns need buffs, but this “balance” changes ain’t it chief.
@wavyhomeboy
3 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t there always a timer on steel essence drops?
@Monntauk
3 жыл бұрын
@@wavyhomeboy no you could just stack them until the game was forced to delete them for performance reasons.
@GameyManatee3
3 жыл бұрын
@@wavyhomeboy There wasn't a timer on steel essence. DE is adding it now since steel essence farms rely on the Smeeta Kavat's charm ability that doubles resources for a period of time. Players like myself would just leave steel essence on the floor until we have that charm ability.
@TyDreacon
3 жыл бұрын
I summarize this update with one phrase: "I didn't know you could throw so many rocks and still miss the broad side of a barn". The problem with Parazon finishers has always been that they race against the ordinary time-to-kill. And with regular TTK being near-instant, it's always going to lose, even if enemies were always open to Parazon finishers. (That's why Covert Lethality was strong but ineffective below ridiculous levels) And here we are, continuing the race. The blood rush emulators miss the point that *melee doesn't need to kill to scale* . It's possible to take a melee that would struggle in a mission and, through Blood Rush, scale it up so that it can handle that content with greater ease. That's the major niche of the mod. That doesn't work if the weapon needs to kill at a decent rate to start with. They point out that the difference in modding, not base stats, is the issue. Then proceed to leave existing mods alone entirely. When Blunderbuss exists. The Infusion system is a massive amount of RNG for random (not even necessarily useful; see Power Strength on Loki) bonuses that will be abused so that players can get the bonus on the Warframe they want. Encouraging players to play Warframes they don't normally? They wish. It's just astounding how many changes they're pushing forward and how far off the stated marks they are.
@TwisteDxBoi
3 жыл бұрын
Players: Guns suck, they don't scale too well into endgame and feel lackluster when compared to abilities/melee DE: Sure, we hear ya. Here, take this melee and Nukor nerf while giving you a weak powerup to guns that you'll have to spend plat fo.... errr I mean grind days fo... errr I mean earn in game to unlock! Also guns still don't have any area coverage, have fun! Players: ... DE: Also fuck you if you thought we'd run this through testing on test servers with dedicated test players to get valuable feedback from.
@ISetYourFaceOnFire
3 жыл бұрын
This should be funny...as it kinda sounds like a joke...but it's actually infuriating how accurate this is. It FEELS exactly like this, whenever they nerf, it's this same logic...
@AceDreamer
3 жыл бұрын
everything else you said is spot on, however: "guns don't have area coverage" see i hate statements like this. Broken OP meta final uber guns don't have area coverage. Explosive kuva weapons can deal well within 40 - 60K damage per click and you can always put punch-through on your other weapons. But oh no, swapping even 1 mod from the ultimate meta is forbidden by the meta dogma. Melee still outpowers guns, and this change won't fix this, i give you that, but "guns don't have area coverage" is the most "i follow the meta blindly" statement that ever stated.
@ChristopherSadlowski
2 жыл бұрын
@@AceDreamer and I'm the big weirdo who likes switching up my guns and stuff all the time! I'm always experimenting and tinkering, even upgrading what most players think are "trash" weapons just to see what happens. Either there's a bunch of players like me who are mostly quiet, or I really am the outlier. Yes, meta can be fun, but I cannot fathom playing this game so rigidly locked into one place too long.
@BlueNaga44
3 жыл бұрын
So the Invigoration system is just a Band-Aid to try and make bad frames slightly usable for a week while taking a chance of just completely destroying certain Warframe builds, because if you cant take a look and see what the buff is before accepting it then there is a chance that you get a case of a Nova with 200% power strength and then you cant use Speedva build for a week or same deal with any other frame that wants a negative stat like Nidus with efficiency and Nova with strength etc. Having power stats be out of our control like that can be a recipe for disaster.
@robo8705
3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it's there to fix bad frames, it felt more like a way to incentivize you to try different frames.
@Cype9k
3 жыл бұрын
@@robo8705 putting 200% power strength on Nyx isn't gonna make the 6 remaining Nyx mains come out of their tombs.
@AziSlays
3 жыл бұрын
@@Cype9k There's 6 of them?
@UltraHydrationSupreme
11 ай бұрын
This is late, but you don't WANT to run negative efficiency nidus, you just can without it effecting you. Sure you get proportionally high energy per hit with virulence, but larva also costs proportionally higher.
@jimjamjoeyjoejoe
3 жыл бұрын
Predictable, primaries overall are not buffed enough to get utility out of them in the higher level content, and of course melee is just flat out nerfed.
@dr.science_0177
3 жыл бұрын
I don't quite understand your point. The new mods on there is basically a blood rush/weeping wounds for primaries and secondaries. Other than the the attack speed and blood rush the other nerf is pretty good
@kai_27-82
3 жыл бұрын
@@dr.science_0177 They require kills, all of them... which primaries already struggle to get in the first place, as someone has already commented "no matter how much damage it gives me, the inconvienance is beyond measurement, once I fight enemys who are too strong I dont have those buffs, when I dont need those buffs I always have them on"
@mtbarnes1
3 жыл бұрын
@@kai_27-82 Since when cant primaries/secondaries get kills? What are you using thats so bad you cant get a kill? Its just that melee outpaces and out damages primaries/secondaries to where they are pointless to use. They can kill "endgame" enemies, they just do it slower and not as large an area as melee; but slower than melee is still not so slow that they are useless. Not to mention the new Dexterity mods boost your primary/secondary damage without them needing to get a kill first
@SymmetricalDocking
3 жыл бұрын
@@mtbarnes1 On bosses and acolytes on the higher level Steel Path. Melee have to build combo counter, now guns will still do nothing.
@TyDreacon
3 жыл бұрын
@@dr.science_0177 If they were blood rush / weeping wound equivalents, they would've been "on x hits". That and the entirely different caps (actual blood rush caps at 12x, Galvanized Scope at 5x). It's a big difference between "beating the first enemy a lot and then steamrolling through the rest" and "beating the first enemy a lot, and the second enemy, and the third, and finally getting an iota of momentum".
@mrezu6653
3 жыл бұрын
The thing is also that melee doesnt need to kill to get more crit chance and status chance. Melee has combo counter. So the mods which have the on kill effects will be just worse options for weapons which cant kill at all. The duration they have wont help as well. Its also funny that they want to make it so that you get those from steel Path itself, and they are suposed to make your weapons bettet, so that they can kill stuff there. DE as always suprises Xd.
@tylercamp6244
3 жыл бұрын
So a bunch of on-kill effects for guns, and a nerf to melee. That doesn’t sound good. They should have buffed the base damage of primaries and secondaries. What’s going to happen is not using a diverse set of weapons, but using the best stuff because an on-kill arcane and set of mods is still unviable on my mk1 braton.
@Nutochi
3 жыл бұрын
The thing is this patch did nothing to change my arsenal: all the stuff i use im going to keep using and bad weapons are still trash
@TyDreacon
3 жыл бұрын
Not even "buff base damage", but "do anything with existing mods". Compare Hornet Strike with Point Blank. A good number of weapons are decently close in terms of base stats, but vary a ton post-modding. I think even my Rattleguts kitguns differ by almost 30-40% in terms of damage between primary and secondary. (things like "13 multipliers with heavy attack" builds aren't helping matters much either)
@frenchfriedbagel7035
3 жыл бұрын
Or they should just make the buffs ‘on hit’ so guns can scale just like melee. Make it ‘on kill’ makes literally all the arcanes and mods useless.
@kanganlogane9434
3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the parazon changes, and previous changes that seemed pointless when there were obviously better ways to change things for the games style: It feels like if any streamer or forum posters suggest good ways to change things, DE tend to loathe admitting that it was a good idea and instead come up with some bizarre idea that fixes nothing and normally makes things worse. Stubbornness in its worst form
@ngwoo
3 жыл бұрын
The hilarious part is that the thing Brozime suggested already exists in the game - it's how Bursas work. When you kill them, they go into a deactivated state and wait for you to hack them. After a while, they'll die for good. Certain enemies like Eximus could very easily do the same thing, but wait for a Parazon finisher instead.
@kingkobra4910
3 жыл бұрын
@@ngwoo too smart of an idea, go to jail
@lindiriel1
3 жыл бұрын
the changes seem to me like a chef, that is looking a buffet and sees that of all the soups, only one gets eaten primarily. and instead of tinkering with the "bad" soup he throws a handful of salt at it (might be underseasoned after all) and pissing in the one good soup at the same time.
@Lottchen621
3 жыл бұрын
It’s more like that one soup is the only one that’s seasoned, but it’s way over seasoned so he waters it down a bit, and then seasons the other soups with salt, even though it needed pepper.
@DraykCiptco
3 жыл бұрын
Every time I come back, the theme of the updates is, "farm harder neckbeards". Like who asked to farm even MORE arcanes in the first place??
The absolute braindead approach to the parazon rework was incredible to see.
@Kirbyman1223
3 жыл бұрын
You mean not making impact useless?
@Truluvcockers
3 жыл бұрын
@@Kirbyman1223 the point is WHO gives a fuck about parazon besides kuva litch
@drogozi3308
3 жыл бұрын
@@Kirbyman1223 Still is lmao.
@Kirbyman1223
3 жыл бұрын
@@Truluvcockers I use them.
@TioMegamanX
3 жыл бұрын
@@Kirbyman1223 please make a video montage of your playthroughs using parazon, maybe it will look good enough for people to start using it.
@TheRioJesus
3 жыл бұрын
They can honestly take those arcane unlockers and stick them where the sun doesn’t shine. We have too much add-on crap for our arsenal already between reactors, catalysts, and all the different exilus adapters. It’s getting ridiculous
@Texas1845
3 жыл бұрын
DE "We hate it when our players have fun in a way we didn't intend them to."
@PermanentlyTemporary
3 жыл бұрын
Herp de derp let's nerf the Xoris right as we release the Sisters of Parvos where you'll want the Xoris to complete the Granum Void solo, because it's only going to spawn one thrall per person.
@jhaydonlee
3 жыл бұрын
Gotta love how lately, DE has been providing things that revive pets and sentinels rather than just making them damage immune. Pretty useless when they're always dead. The newer ones from Deimos are fine, but when they're dead, mods don't work. Kind of defeats the point of bringing them.
@Lonzology
3 жыл бұрын
Yup only Panzer is worth using. Everything else is terrible for high level play. They should just make them like how destiny does it.
@wqweqwet1804
3 жыл бұрын
@@Lonzology ye cuz it’s the only immortal pet we have now.
@Alexus00712
3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea there was a dark mode on the forums thank you whoever said that in the stream!
@knightslayer6161
3 жыл бұрын
When you read out the parazon changes and setup the realistic scenarios I was just in tears. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@whatusayinbruv
3 жыл бұрын
Everyone prepared to put 8 forma in a primary/secondary to make it fit these mods? POG
@technoviking2415
3 жыл бұрын
I have 100s of forma and alot of plat and i think this is really stupid. I have so many guns that are going to need a crap ton of forma now what are they thinking.
@petemoss7704
3 жыл бұрын
Dont they weigh the same as their normal counterparts?
@Nathan-ks6ov
3 жыл бұрын
@@technoviking2415 to pad out the playtime, so they can say "look our game isn't dieing, there's a lot of players spending countless hours playing it"
@Zevox144
3 жыл бұрын
@@petemoss7704 The split chamber one actually costs less. The rest cost more I think. Like Galvanized crosshairs literally costs twice as much as hydraulic. Am looking forward to seeing how much more effort I can stack into Athodai and it still not really matter.
@petemoss7704
3 жыл бұрын
@@Zevox144 well i guess the multishot one is the one i couldn't stop looking at :)
@swernerv
3 жыл бұрын
Fun thing is, Forum used to be dark, then they updated to that white explosion, dark mode is just old layout
@frenchfriedbagel7035
3 жыл бұрын
And 2021 was going so well for Warframe. Why did they have to revert back their 2019-2020 “nerf the fuck out of it” selves?
@SymmetricalDocking
3 жыл бұрын
Was it?
@AC-xq4hh
3 жыл бұрын
Warframe doing well hasn't been a thing since at least 2018... Don't know what game you've been playing
@frenchfriedbagel7035
3 жыл бұрын
@@AC-xq4hh the last good update was Jovian Concord in early 2019. Everything after that to the end of 2020 was some of the worst stuff DE has done to this game. The Railjack Rework and Call of Tempestarii this year were steps in the right direction, but clearly DE didn’t like moving in the right direction anymore because holy shit these changes are awfulz
@frenchfriedbagel7035
3 жыл бұрын
@@SymmetricalDocking yes. Railjack was finally made playable and call of tempestarii was a good update with one of the best frames in the game now added.
@AC-xq4hh
3 жыл бұрын
@@frenchfriedbagel7035 IMO you have a really low bar set for what should be considered "good", making railjack playable after all that time is bare minimum to me
@thehalfrican1386
3 жыл бұрын
We just keep realizing, DE doesnt play their own game.
@mightza3781
3 жыл бұрын
At this point who does?
@astarottestargazer8240
3 жыл бұрын
They dont for over 5 years, I guess someone who made decent ideas left DE.
@lordcommissarspartan
3 жыл бұрын
Did they forget the shotguns have a crit headshot mod? Laser Sight needs a galvanized version too, lol. Crit Shotties need help too.
@DioStandProud
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome *Claps hands* I will be waiting for them to reverse this stupid change once the player counts start to dip For the record, those gun mods must KILL to pop off, something guns can't really do at the right level. The fact they paid poor Rebecca to make that dev video and play this all off like it's fine 😂
@sasuke921231
3 жыл бұрын
Its fucking sad :(
@buff7879
3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully the nerfs do get reverted, I feel like the Kuva Nukor nerf isn’t really fair, especially considering how difficult it is to acquire in the first place
@wqweqwet1804
3 жыл бұрын
I think they are trying to get the hate either directed at DE:Rebecca or deflect the hate by using her. Both are bullshit reasons.
@Hk7762Tube
3 жыл бұрын
As a heavy Phantasma user, I feel nerf breathing down my back...
@striker99974
3 жыл бұрын
Damn, definitely not coming back to warframe now. Sevagoth looked cool enough to come back but rebuilding all my Melee is not worth it in the slightest. Thank you DE for once again not appreciating your players time
@sasuke921231
3 жыл бұрын
Same I might take a break and be done probably
@eleanorgreywolfe5142
3 жыл бұрын
So they nerfed attack speed because "our animations :("
@KaiSoDaM
3 жыл бұрын
If they were any good to begin with...
@TyDreacon
3 жыл бұрын
I mentioned ages ago that if they cared so much about their animations, they could just add a "multi-hit" mechanic and stylize it with an after-image that mimes the player's movements. That, plus fixing stances so that they're not so sticky and feel horrible to use, and tada - good animations with same hit rate. Best of both worlds.
@AC-xq4hh
3 жыл бұрын
Their animations are mobile game level trash so I don't know why they're so proud of it
@fumaczi
3 жыл бұрын
funny thing about it is you would want to use berserker on slow melee bc it is needed to feel good but now you need to swing it for 2 days to kill 2 enemys to get effect so berserker now is good on fast melees and slow melees need to use less attack speed form fury
@mistermaster4495
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah you hurt DEs feeling not to appritiate their animations!!! LoL
@SonOfHubris
3 жыл бұрын
why are people still playing this game, u literally spend 100 hours farming a thing and then it becomes useless next patch
@danielnolan8848
3 жыл бұрын
That's WOW's thing
@thomasalsum2012
3 жыл бұрын
I’m feeling that right this moment
@mistermaster4495
3 жыл бұрын
U R Right....Im done with this crap. DE shits all over our time spend in this Grindfest!
@ProcyonDei
3 жыл бұрын
It's like watching a trainwreck, it's an ugly mess, but just can't stop watching...
@mtbarnes1
3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if DE has stats on the percentage of Ayatan Statues collected versus Statues spawned and never found. I guarantee the collected number is under 40% (being generous)
@KaiSoDaM
3 жыл бұрын
More like
@Raging_goblin
3 жыл бұрын
"Monkey go brrr" was just the perfect reaction to golden instinct. 🤣
@malcomwestjason
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I haven't touched the game in ages now, and this is exactly the sort of thing that got me to nope out. I want to love the game, but .... they're just making it too damn hard.
@FireCamp105
3 жыл бұрын
me 2 tbh, i was waiting for the workshop to consider hoping back into the game, even kept refreshing the forums waiting for it, then i got slapped back to reality, i don't know what expectations i had but i'm utterly disapointed
@alexprus7953
3 жыл бұрын
At this point playing Warframe is literally a waste of time, since you can invest hours of farming into a weapon just for it to get nerfed the next day 😐
@drogozi3308
3 жыл бұрын
Yea, i still watch brozime's warframe content out of curiosity and each time i am more convinced quitting was a good decision. At this point it's just watching car crash in slow motion.
@joshuasantiagojr5082
3 жыл бұрын
@@alexprus7953 yeah... and arcanes.
@sillygrimreaper
3 жыл бұрын
Same with me, I quit Warframe back in late 2019, but I do want to go back into the game but DE just makes it so hard to because how they go about things.
@gotaburn7591
3 жыл бұрын
I don't really use melee much, but I'm wholly disappointed in DE's ''solutions'' to the dps gap.
@Lottchen621
3 жыл бұрын
I think they all look super busted
@gotaburn7591
3 жыл бұрын
@@Lottchen621 I wouldn't say busted, more like a half-arsed attempted to placate a community De stopped listing to years ago while setting up the next hamster wheel. The fact all of the mods are on kill effect and essentially just ''buffed'' versions of mods we already have shows De cared far more about shit to grind for in Teshin's store than fixing fire arm dps.
@adolhein
3 жыл бұрын
Over 2 hours!?! Jeez. This is definitely gonna be a rough ride.
@Xhawk777
3 жыл бұрын
Bandaid fixes 2: melee boogaloo
@BackwardsCombatable
3 жыл бұрын
I get that designers aren't perfect, but there are so many decisions in here that make me think these people genuinely don't play the game they're making.
@DirectorBongHts
3 жыл бұрын
The first 4 and a half minutes DE has already said " We're going to step in and change weapons because you're having fun wrong". What a joke of a company JFC
@TheAssassin409
3 жыл бұрын
The new gun on-kill mods remind me of the Pyrana Prime. Where it is super easy to get the kills needed to trigger the buff in easy content, where the buff isnt needed. But as enemies become tougher, triggering the buff becomes significantly harder just as you need it the most. Also, putting a timer on these buffs disincentives switching between weapons (just like current melee), which I dont think is healthy for the game. I think it would be better if they reworked the mods to stack on consecutive hits to an enemy instead. this way the buff is less powerful in lower level content, and more powerful in higher level content where it is needed the most.
@03081996
3 жыл бұрын
blood rush is now 480% instead of 720% aka any melee under 21% base CC wont hit 100% cc unless using the glad set aka you'll be forced into using helios or an extremely small group of melee weapons
@Victriona
3 жыл бұрын
“galvanized hell” is an incredible name for a mod
@slipipipi7971
3 жыл бұрын
Should be the name of the update
@how8955
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the easiest fix to all this was to give guns 2 more mod slots
@Draz3n_Su
3 жыл бұрын
I hope they add some of these new arcanes or Galvanize mods into Arbitration, so that you can actually get them for steel path. It would give us a reason to run them and it would make more sense than running steel path missions to run steel path (but with guns). 😂
@petemoss7704
3 жыл бұрын
maybe just put them in the arbis store i guess and give us a little more essence idk
@Safetyman99
3 жыл бұрын
DE: "We want to bring primaries and secondaries up to the level of melee weapons" Also DE: Nerfs kuva nukor.
@albino5995
3 жыл бұрын
Steel essence disappearing as well is stupid. No other resource disappears and most people don’t pick them up right away because they are waiting for Charm to kick in!
@bossman1.11
3 жыл бұрын
1:56:38 he didnt say anything in regards to that, unless he commented on it somewhere else on the video
@TheAssassin409
3 жыл бұрын
players waiting for the charm buff is the exact reason theyre making essence disappear. DE hates Charm.
@ngwoo
3 жыл бұрын
If they don't want us using kavat buffs on the steel essence they should just make it go straight into our inventories.
@Kozmokast
3 жыл бұрын
I hate the fact that I’ve had less and less reason to even boot up the game, it’s a damn shame.
@deadpandrew
3 жыл бұрын
Timestamps: 00:00 - Preamble, discovery of dark mode 01:50 - Arsenal divide post, analysis of weapon considerations, melee vs everything else 07:17 - Melee mod nerfs 14:19 - Glaive nerfs 21:54 - Kuva Nukor nerf 24:50 - Primary and Secondary buffs 26:43 - Weapon Arcanes generally 31:58 - Primary Arcanes 38:07 - Secondary Arcanes 41:44 - Arcane wrap up 43:08 - Galvanized Mods 58:35 - Login items 59:30 - Arsenal divide wrap-up, other considerations 1:02:08 - Helminth system update pt1: new abilities 1:09:50 - Helminth pt2: Invigorations 1:13:55 - Helminth FAQ 1:18:00 - Parazon rework 1:23:02 - New Parazon Mods 1:24:25 - Parazon critique and wrap-up 1:27:24 - Overall recap so far 1:34:42 - Watching the [DE] video 1:35:15 - [DE] video: Arsenal divide discussion 1:36:55 - [DE] video: Melee mod nerf redux 1:41:24 - [DE] video: Weapon Arcanes 1:47:30 - [DE] video: Galvanized mods 1:50:22 - [DE] video: Kuva Nukor nerf 1:51:58 - [DE] video: Glaive nerf 1:55:05 - [DE] video: Steel essence farm changes 1:57:25 - [DE] video: Parazon changes 2:08:36 - [DE] video: Helminth additions 2:17:40 - [DE] video: Helminth rank notes 2:20:20 - General wrap up and conclusions
@deadpandrew
3 жыл бұрын
updoot for visibility
@ArcDragoon
3 жыл бұрын
Second problem with these new Arcanes: they're the same fucking problem as Eidolon hunts. By that I mean that you need to have already farmed Eidolons to have an Amp to kill them. It'll just turn into a problem where people will have to be carried all over again. This time in Steel Path missions.
@ArgKnoxville86
3 жыл бұрын
Besides, lets look at it outside of the numbers. How DE addresses "the divide". They nerf melee mods. Ok so then they will buff primary and secondary mods? Nononono, for that they will add something new to farm and grind that still will NOT bring primary and secondary to the point of red crits that melee has. Does that seem to solve "the divide"?
@DioStandProud
3 жыл бұрын
Oh lastly How long before DE nerfs the new primary mods lmao 😂
@Ciobila
3 жыл бұрын
If they include Sabotage caches for the Sickening Pulse it would be just perfect and see way more use.
@NUGGet-3562
3 жыл бұрын
I knew DE screwed up, but I didn't realize it was gonna be a 2-and-a-half-hour-long, "oh boy"-in-the-thumbnail sized screw up. This will be fun to watch.
@yusky03
3 жыл бұрын
Dark Reader browser add-on will make all websites have a dark mode.
@frenchfriedbagel7035
3 жыл бұрын
DE: “We want melee to be fun and powerful. That’s why we fucking broke its spine over our knee”.
@roomba4520
3 жыл бұрын
TLDR: Get a Phantasma, if you haven't yet.
@Maverick2736
3 жыл бұрын
Better tldr - don’t, because it will be nerfed and your time and investment on it will be moot sooner or later. Even bettered tldr - just stop wasting your time with this game.
@matowakan
3 жыл бұрын
The not getting xp ranks for all the warframes ive already subsumed is the biggest slap in the face ive ever seen since they nerfed subsumed abilities before they even released
@mistermaster4495
3 жыл бұрын
You get Nothing! And you will like it!!! No fun allowed
@matowakan
3 жыл бұрын
@@mistermaster4495 :(
@gundamforreal
3 жыл бұрын
Man, am I glad I quit warframe months ago. So now when I look at these changes, I'm not as stressed out as if I were still actively playing.
@alexprus7953
3 жыл бұрын
They could've just buffed guns and enemies instead of nerfing melee
@Poppenheimer69
3 жыл бұрын
That's not how balance™ works.
@Wonejo.
3 жыл бұрын
Lets not forget this stupid desicion is supported by a big portion of the community that sees these workshops and gives their approval saying things like: "will have to try the gun changes but overall looks good to me, after all, melee had it coming it was OP yeah" Morons, all of them.
@bobamericanu2193
3 жыл бұрын
I hate that the mods don't help when it comes to single targets idk if that's just me I rly wish it was on x damage or on crit or something on kill is so disappointing.
@ivailopopov1414
3 жыл бұрын
this is what they called 5-10% nerfs a couple of months ago ... ffs de
@redlord4321
3 жыл бұрын
I like how de trys to be tricky with how they speak to confuse people
@AC-xq4hh
3 жыл бұрын
Rebecca's specialty honestly, you know when she's typing paragraphs beating around the bush she's trying to hide some bullshit from you
@sasuke921231
3 жыл бұрын
Facts fucking hate that -_-
@Apprentice_of_Epitaph
3 жыл бұрын
DE we buff primary and secondary All Players yes finaly DE the first step is to nerf melee to a point where they are useless like guns I dont know what they are doing but i aint playing this game when they keep on doing Shit like that
@TheTankyCrowbar
3 жыл бұрын
Bruh, releasing this video at 3 a.m. Crazy, also think it's BS that you need to play through Steel Path to make guns viable in Steel Path.
@danang5
3 жыл бұрын
and 1 gun at the time too
@darkusandtoast2207
3 жыл бұрын
Have you played eydolons with the quills? Conclave, railjack, or litches? DE is the best at making content islands (like I have never seen worse content islands in any other game).
@danang5
3 жыл бұрын
@@darkusandtoast2207 steve:we dont want to do a content island anymore also steve:
@yeahthatstrue3157
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think this argument makes sense here. Playing steel path makes you stronger everywhere now, even though the strength is mainly useful in steel path.
@ErimlRGG
3 жыл бұрын
This is pretty sad. I haven't played Warframe in months and I really want to. I love the gameplay but after 4k hrs I'm tired of the gameloop and of recent DE's continuos string of horrible decisions
@stefanlewis7773
3 жыл бұрын
Same....
@djaw9623
3 жыл бұрын
I genuinely love your reactions as it can pretty much represent majority of the players that looked at this and thought the same thing. luv ur vids mane :)
@dxmxged_lotus_-9033
9 ай бұрын
24:08 here we are, almost 3 years later. And this would actually still hold if it wasnt for the monstrosity: Laetum
@knicklichtjedi
3 жыл бұрын
Regarding dark mode: I highly recommend the browser addon "Dark Reader". Works wunderfully for almost every website on the internet.
@nuclearsaltlord8497
3 жыл бұрын
It's gonna be hilarious when DE realizes that the weapon "buffs" did nothing and now people are just going to use abilities in place of nerfed melee
@TioMegamanX
3 жыл бұрын
Then proceed to nerf every other ability out of spite.
@slipipipi7971
3 жыл бұрын
@@TioMegamanX Then we find something new to exploit Then DE Nerfs that THEN WE FIND SOMETHING ELSE *THEN DIGITAL EXTREMES DELETES THE VIDEOGAME*
@notsae66
3 жыл бұрын
@@slipipipi7971 No, then _we_ delete the game. If they keep going down this path of nerfing everything that's fun, they'll be left with _nothing_ fun. What happens when a game loses everything that makes it fun? What happens when your entertainment isnt entertaining anymore? You stop playing. _Everyone_ stops playing. They _need_ to stop this, or the game will die. Period. They target what people love, and everytime they do more and more people leave and don't come back. If they don't stop this idiocy, the game will die.
@ManOutofTime913
3 жыл бұрын
More of the insane cycle of DE. They nerf one thing and then everyone just moves to the next best thing because duh, of course you'd do that. Continuing on like this we're eventually just going to get to the point where everything has a stat of zero.
@hoppers4prez214
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah they nerfed everything so much. That's why powercreep has been out of control for years
@targitausrithux2320
3 жыл бұрын
@@hoppers4prez214 Power creep happens when new stuff is released..... however it’s based off a baseline of what’s already in stock. That is to say the power creep problem doesn’t exist anymore since we’ve had our max dmg nerfed years ago and have never recovered that dmg since
@Maverick2736
3 жыл бұрын
@@targitausrithux2320 Wtf you talkin' bout "power creep doesn't exist anymore"? DE constantly and consistently still release strong frames and weapons intentionally every update so people vomit a load of plat on them before going "oops, we *_totally_* didn't mean for it to be that strong!" and nerfing it to the ground later. Not only that, but DE are also never consistent in balancing the weapons already in the game, because they're so lazy and disorganized when it comes to balancing that every single weapon has a different power level--that, itself, creates a power creep of players trying out weapons that downright suck because they stop scaling past lvl30 enemies even with an optimal full build and a riven, and growing so frustrated by it that they then naturally gravitate to weapons that can melt hordes of lvl180 enemies with a basic af build.
@pasielo7267
3 жыл бұрын
I love Brozime reads Dev Workshop the Podcast the Movie. Can't wait to listen to it.
@Self-replicating_whatnot
3 жыл бұрын
Just nerf everything and let the playerbase deal with it.
@technoviking2415
3 жыл бұрын
That makes great sense... not really
@tayevionwilliams9528
3 жыл бұрын
@@technoviking2415 at this point it actually does. Brings back some semblance of balance, and they can be less gun ho about nerfing shit since everything had it. A fresh restart does not sound bad
@technoviking2415
3 жыл бұрын
@@tayevionwilliams9528 so nerf everything yea that makes perfect sense
@tayevionwilliams9528
3 жыл бұрын
@@technoviking2415 sadly yes since DE cant handle the job of balance.
@danielendless
3 жыл бұрын
Watching this blind Got my popcorn ready for the massacre
@Arcelux
Жыл бұрын
Every time i see Reb now all i can think of is the wholesome happy birthday message!
@wolfen210959
3 жыл бұрын
I might be reading this wrong, but it appears that these new mods will be a good addition for a handful of primary or secondary weapons, but the other 500 primary and secondary weapons will still be garbage. Good job DE.
@lucyarisato6850
3 жыл бұрын
I’ve literally not touched Warframe since before Railjack dropped, and I’m still gonna watch all of this
@z3k336
3 жыл бұрын
I yearn to live in the timeline that the Parazon matters, cause YIKES it's honestly impressive that DE seems to actively not make it good. There is no reality where, especially if you're in a squad, an enemy survives even getting glanced at. This is why thrall's have the take-a-knee invulnerability period, why can't this logic be implemented across the board to occasional mooks for like 5 seconds? I want to soak in the animation teams sick mercy kills in my every day game play, I wanna use those mods which have genuine utility like blood for life/energy. Why are the good, seemingly logical things such a distant pipe dream.
@MocharaidThree
3 жыл бұрын
I like most of the changes except the Parazon ones, which just comically miss the mark.
@ngwoo
3 жыл бұрын
For the issue about getting the steel path-easing items in steel path - maybe they could make it so the steel path starts with a difficulty only, say, 50% more than the end of the normal starchart, but then it ramps up faster with better rewards coming later. That way it's just another natural progression through the star chart. Also Primary Merciless is a Kuva Bramma Memetime Arcane
@JeyJ24
3 жыл бұрын
Would testing out a Rank 3 Condition Overload, Rank 6 Blood Rush, and Quickening/Primed Fury be a good video or would you rather wait for the update to go live?
@bradfordgrey700
3 жыл бұрын
This kind of wild nerfing spree is why I stopped playing Warframe. After this many years, one would think they'd have some things figured out.
@M.J.D-DPT
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I just love the irony of this. A Warframe ad popped up to start this video, and DE has the audacity to say this: DE (in ad): "This war is evolving, and so are you." Players: "Cool. We evolved into this new thing. It's powerful. We enjoy it." DE: "Well, that isn't what we wanted, so we're taking it away. Also, we're giving you a flaming bag of dog shit in return." Players: "Ok so what do you want from us?" DE: "To appreciate and play our game." Players: "We do, and we are. But it's hard to do both of those things when YOU KEEP TAKING AWAY THE THINGS THAT MAKE US HAPPY."
@paranoidcj
3 жыл бұрын
What if they just added the primary buffs first, leaving the melee as it is and see if the community like it????
@Reseng
3 жыл бұрын
Disproportionate responses are the meat of the game...bananalancing included
@SYL3NZR
3 жыл бұрын
its very clear that these people do not play the game realistically, most of the time and deffo not to achieve anything, the parazon changes can only be made by someone who never touched the game and only read up on it or worse they actively work to push their vision and enforce their idea of gameplay regardless if its good for the players and the game (which totally never happened before)
@takezokimura2571
3 жыл бұрын
Galvanized Acceleration gives projectile speed too, which is good on Shotguns due to falloff. For instance, in Kuva Kohm it goes like this: Normal: 100% damage at 13m, 16% at 24.7m and 6.25% at 26m With the mod: 100% damage at 24,7m when fully stacked and 6.25% at 49m. For other shotguns the bonus is less, but it generally will give +47% damage when you try to shoot at long distances. Of course, at shorter ranges the difference will be less.
@seerai-42
3 жыл бұрын
i think the worst part is the new "galvanized" mods dont even scale as well compared to melee, and also have an on kill requirement. like... wow! sure lemme kill this high level enemy without my bandaid buffs! oh wait! im barely doing any damage since the galvanized mods are at base weaker than the normal mods! noooo! also only stacks up to two times? cool! this doesnt even address AoE weapons vs single target, and now AoE is gonna become way stronger. dont even get me started on the arcane bullshit, like seriously we need a fucking unlocker??? the unlocker is already in the game it's called grinding the fuckin arcanes until it's usable! this is just dogshit, i could not care less about warframe anymore.
@joedowns8685
3 жыл бұрын
So basically the game will be more tedious and mind numbing?
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