Love the fact that you put Jaina's picture for the "order" dreadlord in the cosmic realm overview xD
@schippes24
3 жыл бұрын
They always put her among the dreadlords. Watch out for it whenever tali talks about the wingboys
@darth-imperius
3 жыл бұрын
Ok I've seen / heard this many a time, but why are people saying Jaina is a dreadlord?
@WondderWaffel
3 жыл бұрын
@@darth-imperius It stems from a theory that youtuber Jesse Cox (previously known as OMFGcata) presented after the Siege of Orgrimmar ending cinematic, where Jaina tried to convince Varian Vrynn to annihilate the horde there and then. Jesse Cox thought that this was so out of character for Jaina, as she had sacrificed so much for peace between the Horde and Alliance (her father being a notable example) That he came up with the 'conspiracy theory' that Jaina was dead/gone and had been replaced with a dreadlord that took on her appearance. This garnered quite a bit of attention as a meme and satire for WoW's story arc for some of it's older characters. But it didn't really blow up till the question was asked during a blizzcon QnA session with the devs, where they were asked by an attendee if "Jaina is a dreadlord?" Boom, theory spread around the community and has stuck around as a meme for all these years. (I can't remember if it actually was Jesse Cox who asked it the first time around during a blizzcon, but he's had many funny interaction with the lore devs post this where they'll banter about her being/not being a dreadlord)
@darth-imperius
3 жыл бұрын
@@WondderWaffel thanks for taking the time to tell me all of this.
@ShadowTheHedgehogCZ
3 жыл бұрын
The notable example of Jaina being originally so strongly in favor of peace that she refused to help her father who renewed war against the Horde... and then later she acted as mustache twirling villain in purge of Dalaran and later at the end of Siege of Orgimmar, it also convince me that she HAS TO BE a Dreadlord. Even after the whole BFA arc, it's still kinda easier for me to believe that the Dread Lord just learned to be a better actor, than thinking Jaina was herself the whole time.
@TheCheezeybacon
3 жыл бұрын
Hello there!
@fdeeaa
3 жыл бұрын
General Kenobi
@thehermit8723
3 жыл бұрын
I have a baaaad feeling about this.
@sqiu567
3 жыл бұрын
You are a bold one
@yutami
3 жыл бұрын
General Kenobi
@malphasblackwing420
2 жыл бұрын
General Kenobi
@ernest__
3 жыл бұрын
Including Jaina in that Dreadlord presentation really made me laugh!
@afinchinthedark
3 жыл бұрын
Calling it now, Sybille is the original harvester of wrath
@mihaimoldo
3 жыл бұрын
You son of a bitch! I'm in!
@Arkios64
3 жыл бұрын
That was my first thought too!
@meganames3567
3 жыл бұрын
I THOUGHT THAT TOO
@latedala07
3 жыл бұрын
OHHHHHH that's good!!! I just thought Sybille was a play on sibyl (an old greek word for prophet) since she says weird things, but Theotar does call her "Lady" Sybille!
@FrozenxDeath
3 жыл бұрын
Could be that she was the first being ever banished to the Ember Ward after the Naaru turned into a Light-blasted hellscape.
@DeadnCold
3 жыл бұрын
It hit me today. That last chapter. It's the Sword. This whole xpac Zoval is never shown with a weapon. He escapes at the end of the raid and he's going to need a weapon to do whatever it is his big plans are. And hey, looky here, a giant uber powerful Titan's sword conveniently stuck in Azeroth that everyone has forgotten about..
@Nojomojo1
3 жыл бұрын
Who do you think Sargeras left it for 🙃 Lord Illidan will save us.
@BlackGermerican
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I thought that Sylvanas' soul-split was basically confirmed the second I saw the book cover of the new Sylvanas book by Christie Golden coming out in November. I don't think it's a coincidence that Blizzard decided that Sylvanas be portrayed split on the book cover, with the same gold and blue colors of Uther's soul-split from the cinematic we saw. Just my two cents though. Maybe others can chime in.
@maximiliangfrorer1039
3 жыл бұрын
Same, I always thought it seems pretty obvious after we saw what actually happened to Uther's soul.
@joshuaeley5701
3 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic editing; just top-notch, made this video a joy to watch.
@tonyfalardeau4858
3 жыл бұрын
"loreboners" The child in me couldn't stop laughing at that
@DKHZStudio
3 жыл бұрын
well there is the theory that the place Sylvanas ended up was Ardenweald, the folklore book says that when Vereesa was looking where sylvanas soul was going, she found herself in a forest.
@Kickmon
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but whenever Tali says "Join us" it makes me think of the first trailers for Dragon Age Origins. Confirmed Tali is secretly a Grey Warden
@ashe274
3 жыл бұрын
3:45 Man, we’ve been getting fooled into doing bad guy dirty work for 15 years. Honestly, it’s insulting at this point that we’re portrayed as being so dumb. Like, OK, accidentally helping an old hermit build an abomination and unleash it on Darkshire is one thing, but bringing one of the only two remaining macguffins into the Dark Lord’s palace is a truly boob move.
@AM-gt1ep
3 жыл бұрын
What if...We been the bad guys the whole time?
@catxborsuq1
3 жыл бұрын
Still not as bad as Horde players giving Sylvanas that damned dagger
@fetzie23
3 жыл бұрын
@@catxborsuq1 Handing over KT's phylactery in Classic wasn't a very clever move either, tbh.
@CaiRobinson
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah are you telling me my char can't figure out that I shouldn't bring what the jailor wants right to his front door...
@geltza7
3 жыл бұрын
Haha..... Boob.
@llandrin9205
3 жыл бұрын
You just couldn't resist the Jaina as a Dreadlord, could you? :)
@buckskinstallion77
3 жыл бұрын
Ever since the launch of Shadowlands, I've had a lot of trouble gathering the motivation to continue playing current content once I got my main to 60. It was probably a combination of work overload during Thanksgiving and Christmas when it first launched, and helping my son with distance learning at the time (restrictions have been lifted since), that I was just too exhausted to play. This put my once progression-raiding character behind everyone else, and thus, overwhelming the crap out of me. This video...this specific video seems to have put that spark back into me. I feel like I can't wait to catch up, get geared, and find out what happens next. Thank You!
@MrNetrizhul
3 жыл бұрын
If Kael who is sane elf, did betray his whole race (also others) just for power, can seek redemption I'm pretty sure soul-consumed, mind controlled Arthas deserve more than that.
@reecedactyl
3 жыл бұрын
please now everyones acting like hes been mind controlled since day 1.
@hasanarkan
3 жыл бұрын
Arthas is not mind controlled, read the book for gods sake. even blizzard said arthas did everything with his own will
@reecedactyl
3 жыл бұрын
@@hasanarkan yeh thats right but i believe they retconned some and said since he got the sword he lost his soul so everyones saying he was mind controlled.
@hasanarkan
3 жыл бұрын
@@reecedactyl no no, he killed even nerzul and take full control of the lich king
@reecedactyl
3 жыл бұрын
@@hasanarkan i know i've read the book, he killed nerzhul and the child arthas representing his humanity. people these days are saying he was mind controlled by the jailer ever since he picked up the sword
@CarterArts
3 жыл бұрын
Im torn between not wanting spoilers and also desperately wanting to watch a T&E video
@keeblrelf8550
3 жыл бұрын
"Palpashrivels" is now in the running for word of the year. Thank you very much Tali XD
@Cyanoblades
3 жыл бұрын
Taliesin talking about WoW is more entertaining than the actual game.
@RukkuHeizen
3 жыл бұрын
There's just so many other issues with the game that drove me away, and don't seem to be getting addressed anytime soon, that I can't see myself coming back. So I'm counting on you and other lore channels to fill me in on this stuff.
@aidonis98
3 жыл бұрын
That's where I'm at. Love the channel, and I love the lore, but I just don't think I will be playing this game again. Maybe some day, Blizzard will respect folks time again, but t certainly won't be anytime soon.
@p.r.1308
3 жыл бұрын
I dont like how they reveal all the old lore things in one expansion... And that everything we learned and happend did just happen because of a boring bad guy called the jailer ... He is the most boring Charakter. All this rewriting of old and good lore and storys... Its sad.
@RukkuHeizen
3 жыл бұрын
@ezlyfe Balance for one. I was playing a monk. I started out as Necrolord because I liked the aesthetic and the ability was interesting to me and was ok for healing and tanking, but as my guild started prog in Mythic and I was needed as DPS more often I was always at the bottom of the meters. That got old fast. So I switched to Kyrian, and saw improvements of around 1k dps. Other classes felt frustrating as well. Warlocks best covenant last I checked was Night Fae which is weird, Shaman had completely opposite bests for Elemental and enhance. Rogues had all the covenants best as different points. Why don't they just make them like an extra talent row. These borrowed power system have gotten old. World Quests are boring as hell but if you're on a budget and pay for the game with WoW tokens like I did you kind of have to do them or at least the callings for the free gold, and that's on top of any other farming to make or save gold. It starts to feel like a job that pays $15 a month in game time. It almost feels like a mobile game at times with the daily quests and the great vault being like a gacha mechanic that you pay for with time. Mythic Plus is a personal gripe. In legion it was kinda of meh, and BFA I tolerated doing one max key a week, but now I'm just done with them. There's other things that led me to leave the game also. like my growing distaste for Actiblizz, and some personal reasons. Or maybe I've just grown different tastes. The game just isn't worth the time for me anymore.
@slapstick9047
3 жыл бұрын
@@RukkuHeizen the covenants are getting more balanced for the majority of classes I'd say. Monk will always be best Kyrian or NF, but for Lock seems like Necro will be good, and kyrian was never terrible.... Shaman still has the same "BiS" issue, but neither of them are terrible for the other spec imo
@barefootwanderer
3 жыл бұрын
Tali I never tire of your delicious way with words. "The Boy Scout Smurflord Afterparty" and "Palpashrivels" had me laughsnorting into my cup of tea. Bravo sir, Bravo. I might even resub to WoW for 9.1 for a while.
@zenmindgamer
3 жыл бұрын
This channel is my only connection to WoW lore these days and I love you for it.
@gothmaugen
3 жыл бұрын
"boy scout smurflord afterparty." ROFLMAO
@trinitysays
3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh lore from Tali...eeeeeeeeeeeee! Okayy, gogogogogo!
@crighi6631
3 жыл бұрын
13:40 Thrall met Draka before in WoD but had absolutely no reaction when speaking to her
@maximiliangfrorer1039
3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't that the "wrong" Draka though anyway? WoD Draka isn't Thrall's mother.
@crighi6631
3 жыл бұрын
@@maximiliangfrorer1039 he wasn't born yet in that time line, but to him he should have been. If you travel back in time and meet your deceased mother, would you have no reaction?
@gishjalmr5628
3 жыл бұрын
When Elune speaks it's going to be like that scene from the movie Dogma and all of their heads will explode.
@zach6395
3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to think that after Devos and Uther dropped him in the Maw, Arthas has been hiding and striking out against the Jalier. Imagine if we, along with Bolvar, Jaina, and Calia are saved by a group of souls, led by Arthas.
@jonathanhendricks6564
3 жыл бұрын
I want to say thank you... Shadowlands drag has hit hard. Been doing a lot of Classic getting ready for BC, but this video has got me hyped for 9.1.
@sneaksyranger
3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I will need sunglasses for that neon sign they are advertising Sylvanas' redemption with. I think I can deal with her walking away without consequence like she's going to, but I will freaking lose it if some Xe'ra 2.0 tells me how awful I was for holding hatred in my heart for her.
@catxborsuq1
3 жыл бұрын
Good for you. I can't. I've been playing as night elf since 2006. There is no way there can be no consequences for burning alive almost an entire species like that, not to mention destroying a World Tree blessed by Alexstrasza and Ysera to boot.
@sonlen796
3 жыл бұрын
@@catxborsuq1 I get that, but IF they had Sylvanas go the atonement route in Revendreth (where she has to feel all the pain she's caused) as opposed to the straightforward redemption route (where she's just a good guy then and goes back to the Horde or whatever) I could be alright with that. I'm a night elf main as well. I loved that the BFA storyline brought back the warrior side of our folks (since I feel like public perception of night elves has been the hippie druids), and the Teldrassil mission made me feel very sad (even though it was very well done). IF Blizzard just lets her go without consequence I will be very upset.
@sophiejones7727
3 жыл бұрын
Why does everyone think Sylvanas will face no consequences? Because Keerigan didn’t? That’s a completely different franchise! Starcraft can have black and gray morality. Starcraft can have bad guys face zero consequences. I mean nobody has clean hands by the end of Starcraft III. Just who exactly had the moral authority to prosecute Kerrigan? Starcraft is sci-fi. It can be more realistic. It’s supposedly set in the real world, in the distant future but still. Bad guys don’t always face consequences in the real world. But in WoW, they must, because WoW is high fantasy. People exist who absolutely have the moral authority, and the power, to prosecute Sylvanas: even if we can’t or won’t. Her sisters, for starters. And when has a character in WoW ever faced *no* consequences whatsoever for their actions? Obviously you can debate whether certain punishments were sufficient, but that is a different discussion. Oh and also: did you somehow miss the part where X’era got sploded? Why does everyone think she was meant to be some paragon of goodness? It should have been obvious something was not quite right after the Black Rook Hold flashback when she was all like “what would you have done differently?” Idk bitch, maybe asked first? Like “hey, I know of a spell that can kill all these demons but I’m gonna need to drain all your power to cast it”. I mean idk, but if I was a Moonguard member and Illidan said that to me I’d have been like “yeah, sure, go ahead”. It’s not like they were under any illusions about the odds: they came there to die anyways. What those Moon Guard mages were hoping for was that their deaths would have an impact. And you can accuse Illidan of many things, but not of wasting power. If I let Illidan drain me, I’d know that he would make every last bit of my power count. That’s good enough for me. All he needed to do was ask. Just like with the Draenei spirits in Auchindoun. Akama is a shaman, he can talk to spirits. The spirits in question were Draenei. How many of them would honestly have refused to give up their afterlife for the Legion’s defeat? Illidan was opening a portal to acquire the Sargerite keystone which would allow him to take the fight to Antorus directly. And the Illidari+the Army of the Light could totally have taken on Antorus. Basically the entire Legion expansion happened because Illidan was a massive douche for no reason.
@stormstrider1990
3 жыл бұрын
@@sophiejones7727 The Illidan flashback quests have plenty of details that don't match the lore, which actually got many fans of the War of the Ancients trilogy confused. Like how upset Illidan was when Cenarius would no longer teach druidism, when in reality he didn't care. Or how Broxigar was honored to fight beside him, when he was actually pissed at Illidan for burning his hands. Those visions were clearly altered by Xe'ra to make Illidan look more sympathetic to us heroes. Xe'ra believed Illidan was the the "Child of Light and Shadow", and that she could convert him to the Light. She was obviously mistaken, like with many other things. As for Sylvanas, I'm sure this fear many have that she will turn out to be the true hero all along and face no consequences for her action, is because of all the fanboys who believe their queen can do no wrong, and tinfoil hats like Accolonn and Pyromancer who believe the good guys are actually the bad guys and vice- versa. The fact that Steve Danuser himself, the guys who's in charge of the narrative, loves the Banshee Queen, has also got many people worried. I'm slightly worried too, but I'm mostly sure they would never go as far as to justify Sylvanas' actions just to please one part of the lore community. Sylvanas will face the consequences, one way or another.
@karlrassmann4604
3 жыл бұрын
I imagine in my mind... a scenario in which some entity tries to scold us for hating Sylvanas, and while it's half way through a sentence Tyrande or Bolvar just one-shots it and says "screw you we're still killing her". I don't think that would happen, nor do I think it'd be a smart storytelling decision, but I'd still crap my pants laughing
@luminusprime
3 жыл бұрын
So if the Kyrian get to keep their memories now, does that mean they're going to poach Mograine from Maldraxxus?
@maurodesconocido3642
3 жыл бұрын
That’s a very good question actually
@margisama
3 жыл бұрын
I think after being there for years and becoming loyal to his house Mograine would choose to stay in Maldraxxus even if the memory thing is now optional.
@Clutzydoo
3 жыл бұрын
implying team super intern can do much more than write bad sylvanas fanfiction is a bit much. They probably already forgot about that story point for the covenants.
@Servellion
3 жыл бұрын
@N-word Jim Hell, if what we learn from in-game is any indication, Maldraxxus has had to stop the light from poaching souls from the Shadowlands.
@malory2217
3 жыл бұрын
about Elune if you follow the talk after the film sequence you notice that tyrande gives the statement the tear is both hers and Elunes one asks the question as if the pillar of creation is make in a similar way it was possible that Eona was strengthened by Elune that would explain why Eona's Pillar of Creation is named after Elune
@stoopidpursun8140
3 жыл бұрын
We've seen a lot of dead people in the Shadowlands, but there's one crucial lore figure we haven't seen yet. One that I feel will play a major role in 9.2, possibly even being the key to everything going on in the Shadowlands and beyond. That key figure - Orc Sea Pup, who died after a horrible sideways pooping accident.
@baal5242
3 жыл бұрын
Did Evitel just call Talie a stallion? xD
@Hoztyle619
3 жыл бұрын
Was hoping to fin this comment.
@renl4123
3 жыл бұрын
Tbf, he probably gets ridden as much as a stallion.
@dimitarzhelev4823
3 жыл бұрын
Hey! Another great video... However weirdly so I am coming to the comment section in oder to give you guys kudos for the ad :D It is one of the better adds I've seen lately (entertaining) and initially I was going for the skip (but staied for Evertell) but the add itself was useful and fun... So actual kudos to you guys... I hope this whole thing works out for you since you are great and awesome... Even Tally
@stevedoktor1766
3 жыл бұрын
Yay a new T&E video! You guys haven’t been kidnapped by Sylvanas after all!
@gekkokkid
3 жыл бұрын
"He cheated on the Mak'gora" this bothers me a lot, he used the power of the elements a power well respected among the orc clans and people still say he "Cheated"? in a Mak'gora you fight to the death with what you got in the moment of the fight that is the actual rules. the element are his powers, a part of himself and not to mention he was already fighting Garrosh with it from the very beginning (did you not notice the thundering clouds from the start?). Thrall didn't cheat Garrosh just underestimated his enemy and picked a fight with the wrong person, another thing to note is that there is literally NO RULE against the used of elemental powers in a Mak'gora. do you know why Gul'dan in the movie was consider a cheater when he used fel magic against Durutan? Fel magic is not a power recognize or respected among the Orc clans in fact it is consider a disgusting dishonorable outside power. do you know why Saurfan using the blade of his enemy for fight with Silvanas in a mak'gora wasn't considered a cheat too? Varian's sword is a true warriors sword and Saurfan wasn't just representing the horde in that fight he was representing Azeroth, azeroth's true strength wish is the alliance and the horde.
@josecuvi2282
3 жыл бұрын
I was under the impression that using other than your physical body in. Mak'gora was cheating. But then that's just based off limited observation. I would like to know the source you used to state that elemental powers are allowed by virtue of being respected. By that metric, could other powers become part of the culture and eventually be accepted in use during a Mak'gora?
@dvls442
3 жыл бұрын
Using magic, all kinds of it is forbidden in Mak'gora. That was cheating. Gul'dan was considered cheater because he used the god damn magic and so did Thrall. Do you honestly believe an average Orc - obviously a fighter of flesh and blood - can tell you a difference between Frost Magic, Fire Magic, Arcane Magic, Void Magic, Fel Magic, Elements Magic and so on, whatever? LMAO :D Dude stop making up your own stories to justify something that a character you like did wrong. He cheated, period. Does that make him bad? Absolutely not. The 1 thing everyone misses is that Thrall was raised by humans, he wasnt teached the Orc ways of life since his birth and thats a difference. All i mean is that, i think we can all agree that he cheated and that was a scummy move from Orc-perspective but given the circumstances, we can forgive him :P
@dakotaa7535
3 жыл бұрын
Thrall was using the Elements against Garrosh in their first Mak'Gora before Wrath of the Lich King an nobody batted an eye. It seems clear, from that, that using the elements wasn't cheating.
@tumppu1975
3 жыл бұрын
@@dvls442 yeah and garrosh cheated by using a poisoned blade against cairne. Let's just not pretend these big lore mak'gora fights have been "honorable" as a whole.
@dvls442
3 жыл бұрын
@@tumppu1975 yeah he did, doesnt change the fact that thrall cheated in this fight :D
@sturdh9402
3 жыл бұрын
I almost never comment taly but after watching these for years the palpashrivel term is so good i had to give u serious props
@frostiproclamation
3 жыл бұрын
that palpatine bit - *chef's kiss*
@timar6868
3 жыл бұрын
It’s not only the game that shows that elune is The sister but those new story bites that came out or are about to come out I think in late June or July they gave away a few snippets and they literally say that elune is her sister and that she “must live “in the life lands
@shawnp001
3 жыл бұрын
I totally love the comedic runs here
@Ca1icoFox
3 жыл бұрын
I love these videos so much. Taliesin is a great with the jokes and high energy and Evi even when excited is generally just very calming and pleasant to hear. Idek but keep it up fam
@DanePE04
3 жыл бұрын
I loved that ad break, like seriously well done
@RangerJackWalker
3 жыл бұрын
I don't even play WoW. Pretty much never have played it all. Yet I still watch you guys.
@raxiddenistrae1208
3 жыл бұрын
"Theotherday" the Shaman is amazing
@SoftSemtex
3 жыл бұрын
plot twist: lady moonberry is the original harvester of wrath
@tomroberts2299
3 жыл бұрын
What about the part of Uther's soul that Paladins find at his Tomb?
@ArunKumar-cg1kl
3 жыл бұрын
After multiple refreshes for updates every week.. welcome back :D
@forsakenmar9690
3 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that at least Blizzard seems to recognize that some important characters didn't have a true ending and they are trying to give us that, also that they are trying to reveal some secrets we always wondered but didn't think they would give us some answers. It's very refreshing to see that.
@erictorres5632
3 жыл бұрын
It makes absolutely NO sense at all whatsoever that Elune is the Winter Queen's sister! Because Eonar should be the Winter Queen's sister and it would make the most sense that she would be the Winter Queens sister as opposed to Elune being the Winter Queen's sister, Because if Eonar the LIFE-BINDER is considered her sister. Then wouldn't it make sense for her As the Titan of life she basically would be the Winter Queen’s living world counterpart right ? 🤔 Lets discuss why it makes more sense for Eonar to be the Winter Queens sister instead of Elune: 1: Elune is seen to grant powers of light, arcane, shadow (to the night warriors) and to be fair, has connections to wild gods and life as well but she is a quite versatile deity… nothing about Elune contrasts the winter queen as her summer counterpart. 2: Elune is depicted as a true deity above the titans and eternal ones, she wouldn’t be on the level of the Winter Queen, if anything Elune could be a mother to the winter queen and her sister as a First One (as some theorize) 3: Elune’s doesn’t have a connection to Ysera or the dragonflights other than cleansing her from the Nightmare and delivering her to a wildseed in Ardenweald, Elune’s cleansing power isn’t something attributed to the emerald dream but is of her LIGHT (as proven by the Flynn/Shaw short story where her holy waters purges a corrupted artifact at a moonwell) 4: Chronicle said that Freya BESEECHED (asked) Eonar to empower the two sisters Ysera and Alexstrazsa after they proved they could be defenders of Azeroth after defeating Galakrond. Eonar gave a piece of her essence to Ysera and Alexstrazsa to make them aspects, Eonar BOUND Ysera to the dream and gave her and Alex their specific tasks… making more sense for Ysera to be Eonar / Life’s pet than Elune. 5: The reason why people think it is Elune is because of Legion’s Val’sharah, but think of it this way: If we fought Ysera in westfall and not the temple of Elune, and she was killed by farmer joe and not Tyrande, would Elune still cleanse and deliver her to Ardenweald? It’s nothing confirmed but puts things into perspective. 6: Elune does share a connection with Ysera in terms of Cenarius and Malorne and such, I see that more of an Elune being a motherly deity to the night elves and the druidic path they set for their race. Conclusion: Elune has always been attributed to a goddess of Light, and some magic which calls upon her seems to be Arcane and more recently we find out she has been granting shadow powers to night warriors since at least pre-war of the ancients… the sister contrast isn't there with the Winter Queen and the most plausible connection is Elune is a First One, a higher deity. Bonus: Winter Queen seems to have a bad past or negative relationship with her sister, Elune is an aloof goddess who is never personified with emotions and just doesn’t seem on the same level of these death/order panthons, where Eonar is more ““finite”” (i say vaguely) in the sense that she is a more humanized deity that we can see and have interacted with and have more concrete and stronger connections to Ysera (as mentioned, Ysera has a piece of Eonar’s essence in her)
@aniruddhbhatkal1834
3 жыл бұрын
"Boyscout smurf Lord after-party" is such an amazing description 👏
@maryweld5629
3 жыл бұрын
Jaina dreadlord confirmed
@OGEETOMO
3 жыл бұрын
Lores face for that joke was fuckhn hilarious. And Jaina dreadlord fuckhn mint.
@anthonipowers4757
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making me almost choke laughing at your description of thrall.
@dazgodbold
3 жыл бұрын
ngl I want that 5 part epic video series on the history of the Tuskarr
@alanf945
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Absolutely love the T&E youtube stuff; can't wait for the next Weekly Reset!
@jamesbell9136
3 жыл бұрын
Great Video. The question I have is after seeing all these lore characters is were is Varian?
@jovee6155
3 жыл бұрын
Me: how many goosebumps can i get from this? Goosebumps: all of them
@benjaminmccoy8338
3 жыл бұрын
the original harvester of wrath's name is sybble anyways she atm is one of those scorched ghoul venthyr in the ember ward. you follower to that mad duke person. go through all that area again and youl see this.
@mergetvs
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you actually reminded me to take my heart medicine
@stefanoux1012
3 жыл бұрын
Have anyone else notice that Varimathras belt is the Runecarver face and has the same chains
@Vaserius
3 жыл бұрын
11:07 chefs kiss for that meme insert Tali.
@jcmahrt5100
3 жыл бұрын
Considering that we have been doing quests that made us look like we don't actually think things clearly then yeah, that Primus part is up our alley.
@jaimemolina7219
3 жыл бұрын
I wish they had a new model for Arthas
@us89na
3 жыл бұрын
3:09 Runecarver is Vendel from TrollHunter - with a robe on.
@Leronnic
3 жыл бұрын
I've seen many things that say that sylvanas is alive but here's what nobody has mentioned, Uther's soul fragment looks like the shard zoval shot at her at the end of the raid, she gained her soul completely was resurrected and then died from mortal wounds gained either by us or everything she has been through, she was killed because of zoval "repaying" her
@Kpackom
3 жыл бұрын
I subbed for audible just for you guys and to check out Evi's recommendations ;) thanks for making my day time and time again
@Mike-qc8xd
3 жыл бұрын
you guys always make me smile
@Saii158
3 жыл бұрын
Story is awesome. As a lore nerd I love it. Gameplay tho? i hate all the weekly "need to do" I hate the covenant power. the anima. everything that is "needed" each week..
@schippes24
3 жыл бұрын
Story-wise I always was interested enough and entertained enough in wow. Those usually aren't the twist-filled awesome stunning stories I wish they were, but let's be honest, it's an MMO, how thrilling can you truly make a story in those. What I fear more in shadowlands future are blizz-typical systems upon systems and dragging out stuff fans were crying out for over a year: bringing back tier sets and some interesting loot here and there. (like the sylvanas bow that I'm quite happy about even though I don't even play hunter)
@Durbuz94
3 жыл бұрын
GIVE US THE 5 PART EPIC MEGA SERIES ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE TUSKARR
@RhiaBlack
3 жыл бұрын
Shriveled Prune Santa....LOST IT XD
@larrypope1057
3 жыл бұрын
Talie!! I'm glad I redeemed those points to grt a video out :p. Great vid bud
@johnjones5492
3 жыл бұрын
Palpashrivels...pure genius
@AdrasAdraki
3 жыл бұрын
The icon for uther's soul fragment looks alot like the crystal that the jailer used to make anduin's mourneblade.
@peterslavik1449
3 жыл бұрын
Each realm of magic has a sister for sure. Eonar is of the Arcane Lands? I want to see the Fel sister lol.
@ManyAsOneRU
3 жыл бұрын
Well, Elune did talk to the alliance PC in Cataclysm (He Who Would Be Forgiven quest), so, not the 1st time. Tyrande not participating in Sylvanas fight is one of those things that make me think "is there a way to play so that not a single penny from subscription goes to the writing team, or I shouls just cancel it altogether". [removed stuff; you know, I do not think there is much point in mentioning every odd or contradictory thing that happens throughout Shadowlands, so, I'll just throw away all my frustration at the dev team and say] Glad you're enjoying the way the story goes forward. Not my cup of tea though. gl hf
@velissarothefearless5506
3 жыл бұрын
I could see the Dread Lord home world being a future patch similar to the Argus patch in Legion
@bearcat1868
3 жыл бұрын
I know it's not super feasible to do all that much, but I think some of these quest lines could benefit from some character-race-specific or class-specific dialogue goodies/acknowledgements. Like the Frostmourne bit. - Sincerely, a Forsaken main now faced with the idea of saving not just Sylvanas for redemption, but Arthas too.
@Nozthren
3 жыл бұрын
I like the pacing of the story... as long as the story's pace didn't out pace the patch that we're in. It feels like months since I had a quest of lore to experience and that is after I finished all the covenants and went on the quests Bolvar felt like he needed to send me on. I'm getting bored, but it's given me enough time to do the covenant quest lines 2 more times over 8 alts... making a full 3 completed stories of each covenant. I need this 9.1 patch released NOW.
@abydosianchulac2
3 жыл бұрын
I mean, I wish the Kyrian reconciliation arch was a surprise, but then again Blizz has had a transmog "of the Harmonious" set (or some similar name) on their vendors since launch. What I'm hoping about all those souls left to suffer in Torgast is that there is no point to rescue them since the Arbiter is still out of commission. Hopefully, though, there will be a story beat at the end of the expansion where they are all rescued, because otherwise that is a really, really, really shit ways to treat all those characters.
@TheTenchii
3 жыл бұрын
Adding Jaina in the dreadlord group, just... *chefs kisses
@platypusmode2071
3 жыл бұрын
THIS IS THE BEST BIRTHDAY PRESENT EVERRRRR
@Brophistophelez
3 жыл бұрын
Love your content guys. Can't wait till next video.
@CaiRobinson
3 жыл бұрын
Uther saying Devos lead me down that path is interesting as its kinda like saying he didn't have any part it in.
@TheR41N
3 жыл бұрын
Arhas was(and still IS) the greatest hero this world has seen.
@Smokie1523
3 жыл бұрын
20$ says elune speaks through the magic and mystery of chat boxes and text! Oooooohhh! Ahhhhhhhhh! Jazz hands! Yeah! 👐
@imAddictedtomymusic
3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow I'm glad this was released just in time for me to fit it in before work
@hellothere8812
3 жыл бұрын
Feels like been waiting years for this new patch to come out
@ihaveanunorigionalname
3 жыл бұрын
Evitel thank you i love you. Your return made this shit worth watching.
@Amos-61
3 жыл бұрын
I want Arthas to come back man
@halason1
3 жыл бұрын
YES palpa shrivels so true! love you guys keep up the good work.
@kawaiitarrot3611
3 жыл бұрын
Tyrande should have gone on a bigger rampage before losing her power. Let's see what that power can do.
@seanh1321
3 жыл бұрын
She still has the night warrior power, she is just fully in control of it now and is no longer blinded by rage. There is actual dialogue that confirms that.
@stepanpytlik4021
3 жыл бұрын
@@seanh1321 It's not confirmed yet.
@seanh1321
3 жыл бұрын
@@stepanpytlik4021 Dialogue datamined by wowhead, source is currently unknown: "When I first became the Night Warrior, it was with full knowledge that I might very well sacrifice my life to attain justice for the kaldorei. Such is often the fate of those who channel Elune's unmitigated fury. The power of the goddess still flows through me, but no longer does it threaten to tear me asunder. I cannot say how I will wield it in the future... only that I must do so for the good of my people". There is also the fact that after the ritual she still holds the title of night warrior.
@kawaiitarrot3611
3 жыл бұрын
@@seanh1321 dopeeeeee
@saranghae1saranghae
3 жыл бұрын
A whole lot of nothing.
@Akairen
3 жыл бұрын
I welcome the Elune-gasm.
@oOBlindyOo
3 жыл бұрын
Was wondering when this would pop up.
@jasongraham3873
3 жыл бұрын
So @Tali and @Evi: if the implication is that Frostmourne fractures souls, and is a creation of the Jailer (via the Runecarver) as is the Helm of Domination, and the LKs Valkyr are servants of the Jailer, and if all of these are linked to the original Undead Blight - a sort of bastardization of Maldraxxus magic - does this mean that every Forsaken is essentially a fractured soul?
@robertroy8803
3 жыл бұрын
I'm into it. After all, one of the defining things about being turned undead/Forsaken was the stripping away of part of the personality right? Like that one questline from BfA where you kidnap and kill someone for Sylvanas so you can turn them to your side, and after being risen they're stripped of most emotion.
@jasongraham3873
3 жыл бұрын
@@robertroy8803 There've been suggestions in-game and the trans-media narrative that The Forsaken aren't merely undead humans even if their phenotype is reminiscent of their mortal selves; transmutation has in fact occurred. The way they think, perceive, respond, interpret sensation, emotions, etc. -- the implication is that they're all now alien to their previous human condition, right? Perhaps a fractured soul is the heart of that.
@Knoct
3 жыл бұрын
Those soul crystals look a lot like the one the jailer put in Anduin's sword... perhaps... Arthas?
@MrHuntervad
3 жыл бұрын
The ad part was funny XD!
@mwz2701
3 жыл бұрын
Does 9.1 have an official date yet? Great video !
@aaronbrown22
3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I heard loregasm on Accolonns stream first a long while ago and many times since.
@pamelac.nation5437
3 жыл бұрын
I have thought about Sylvanas's soul. If her soul split and part went in the sword and part didn't, which part went in her as a banshee? If it was the one from the sword, that could be why her soul fragment was not with the others. However, if it was the other part, that could be how her soul was dragged straight to the maw. I'll have to think on this more.
@eliteninja23
3 жыл бұрын
“Antoneedus”. Cmon, man.
@nachaghebri9866
3 жыл бұрын
My theory is that "Sybille" is the original harvester of wrath. Denathrius banished her, she went crazy because of the sunlight exposure.
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