REMASTERED JOHN VS ARTHUR VIDEO: kzitem.infowExo9tpvG1c?si=XI0mz_vdH77phG-A Discord server: discord.gg/M2uanWataQ Edit 2: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR 1 MIL!!
@WonderEditz47
9 ай бұрын
whats the name music
@S_Scaling
9 ай бұрын
You also forgot Arthur Foote a 7 foot autism giant
@S_Scaling
9 ай бұрын
Hacks goes to John dead eye
@S_Scaling
9 ай бұрын
And if you’re using John from RDR one they’re equal because John is in his prime in that game and obviously Arthur is in his prime they’re equal
@tonidlo.
9 ай бұрын
@@S_Scalingbut it wouldnt make senee because in johns prime arthur would be 47 years old
@Rce12808
11 ай бұрын
John got smarter after his brains being eaten
@fish.5650
11 ай бұрын
"next time let them eat all of your brain then you'll be a genius"
@joshmonty3095
11 ай бұрын
@@fish.5650Arthur’s jokes 💀
@Coopdog0108
11 ай бұрын
In rdr2 epilogue, James Milton also has eagle eye.
@Rce12808
11 ай бұрын
@@Coopdog0108 Milton died in chapter 6 by Abigail
@imhim573
11 ай бұрын
@@Rce12808johns fake name is jim milton or james milton
@jimboahcalloway
11 ай бұрын
Arthur's iq is mistreated and ignored, you can just read his journal and see it
@wizar_games
11 ай бұрын
I do think you are right about his iq being mistreated but rdr1 John outsmarted the Mexican government
@jimboahcalloway
11 ай бұрын
@@wizar_games well you are right he manipulated them
@issacnewton6943
11 ай бұрын
@@wizar_gamesmanipulation = John Overall IQ= Arthur
@2elss
11 ай бұрын
@@issacnewton6943yes that’s true
@Mr.Pro55k
10 ай бұрын
Yup he prefers to hide it
@18Arthur_Morgan99
3 ай бұрын
Arthur > john ❌ Arthur = john ❌ Arthur🤝john ✅
@Killflesh
3 ай бұрын
Arthur x John ✅
@rei1593et
3 ай бұрын
bruh@@Killflesh
@KeyUploads
2 ай бұрын
@@Killflesh💀 💀-
@Pr1me_Yodaz
Ай бұрын
It’s always been that way
@Killflesh
Ай бұрын
Arthur x John
@Commander-Helo
8 ай бұрын
Bro dropped the coldest red dead short known to man and thought we wouldn’t notice
@heisenberg67108
5 ай бұрын
wild pfp and username i hope you aint tom robb
@heisenberg67108
5 ай бұрын
he just wanted a glass of juice thats all guys
@Commander-Helo
5 ай бұрын
@@heisenberg67108 lmfao 😂
@jenniferlinares1470
9 күн бұрын
if you watched it than you noticed💀💀💀
@JuniorCH1
10 ай бұрын
Arthur vs John ❌ Arthur and John 💪
@ranaal-azawi1712
3 ай бұрын
Rdr1 John and Chapter 2 Arthur would be unstoppable.
@beb0u
3 ай бұрын
Yee
@farhanrahman8361
2 ай бұрын
Yes 👍
@John_Marston218
2 ай бұрын
Very well
@gamingwitharjunaadi387
2 ай бұрын
Arthur , John and jack will be the best gunslinger trio
@skdksdjzkxixi1209
10 ай бұрын
You know you're a fan of the right game franchise when both main protagonists are as beloved and legendary as these two.
@nicolasrodas4929
9 ай бұрын
Son 3 personajes uncle es el 1
@zocra08
5 ай бұрын
@@nicolasrodas4929si la teoría es cierta, Uncle es Red Harlow Pero acordate que son 4 protagonistas, con Jack Marston siendo el ultimo
@Reddeadguy29
3 ай бұрын
@zocra08 why 4? there was only 3 games
@TitoAranda-md9ro
2 ай бұрын
Same as gta
@Yo-rj1wq
Ай бұрын
@@zocra08it’s not true bro, red Harlow is half native American
@WalterWhiteIam
3 ай бұрын
Arthurs strongest move is the "you sir are a fish" move
@anthonylugo2114
Ай бұрын
“You eat babies”
@clownprince1313
8 ай бұрын
When it comes to gun skills, Arthur actually aims and shoots with both eyes open which is hard to master compared to John who closes one eye.
@user-hx6gs9rq7u
8 ай бұрын
With a pistol John always has both eyes open
@randommail1271
Ай бұрын
That's 1906 John. 1911 is more experienced.
@poplishot
9 ай бұрын
John after losing: YOU EAT BABIES
@anthonybastos1040
6 ай бұрын
Arthur: you Damn full
@Yo-fw3wo
6 ай бұрын
@@anthonybastos1040fool* idk I feel like a damn nerd
@anthonybastos1040
6 ай бұрын
@@Yo-fw3wo eu sou do brasil mano se eu errei peço desculpas
@anthonybastos1040
6 ай бұрын
@@Yo-fw3wo i live in Brazil Bro Bud thanks
@Shah-jo1pr
5 ай бұрын
@@Yo-fw3wothat's how we speak boah
@zakestep726
11 ай бұрын
Arthur has the fastest draw speed out of the entire gang
@thescouts4734
10 ай бұрын
I think John ends up with it when he gets taught by Rickets how to be a better dualist
@islu4672
9 ай бұрын
you could make an argument for rd2 but rd1 john has simply better draw speed
@denegwynn2869
9 ай бұрын
In 1899. This is 1911 John who was faster.
@johnnystankiewicz295
9 ай бұрын
@@Table__toparthur might have not even touched the gunslingers. When you play as john you can defeat the gunslingers too. Its not proven which one of them does it.
@aspect359
9 ай бұрын
@@johnnystankiewicz295well that's an option while Arthur's the one who liked them all in the lore shouldn't be looking at gameplay mechanics
@tonidlo.
9 ай бұрын
arthur was extremly intellegent especially when he had tb
@RSH666
Ай бұрын
That is such a cold line Want To Step Outside ANd Deal With Business Here.... 💀
@RagerTheStruggler
Жыл бұрын
i love this concept of explaining why that’s your opinion. Great short
@aeroedits1543
11 ай бұрын
Ikr, much better than other channels.
@RagerTheStruggler
11 ай бұрын
@@aeroedits1543 just checked your channel out, great shorts too man. Where is that star wars one from?
@aeroedits1543
11 ай бұрын
Lol thanks, it was the Clone Wars animated series, i was just screwing around in capcut, thanks man.
@bootybuttmuncher9662
11 ай бұрын
Except his opinion was “feels like it’s better”
@Bass661
10 ай бұрын
Mad cuz bad
@samuelchiloyan9171
10 ай бұрын
Arthur literally gave Micah a run for his money in a fistfight while having critical TB. He gets durability for sure
@pinhead1627
8 ай бұрын
That's more of an endurance feat.
@ZubrPolski
7 ай бұрын
John was left to freeze in the mountains while being attacked by wolves, left in the desert with a bad wound and canonically survived a bear mauling him. I think he gets endurance
@ZubrPolski
7 ай бұрын
Durability i mean
@Kraekan
7 ай бұрын
@@ZubrPolskiI mean, looking at big daddy Arthur, he looks like he's a durable guy... If u know what I mean 😋
@ZubrPolski
7 ай бұрын
@@Kraekanyea lol but john definetly gets endurance he stood for about 44 second after ross and his army pelted him with bullets, ross lit the cigar while marston was still alive
@poweroftheapes
3 ай бұрын
That shot of Arthur on his horse is so damn cold.
@Godofredemtion.3695
5 ай бұрын
‘I’m just getting started unless you wanna get shot’ always goes hard bro 🥶🥶🥶
@Numbersfifteen
Жыл бұрын
Arthur was like johns big brother and we know big brothers beat little brothers
@iamaslug5652
Жыл бұрын
Not completely true, some pave the way for their siblings to surpass them
@_Sw1ft_
11 ай бұрын
john beats arthur
@deepbluebeer
11 ай бұрын
@@_Sw1ft_whatever helps you sleep at night
@_Sw1ft_
11 ай бұрын
@@deepbluebeer can tell your a Arthur meat rider who only played the first game
@Shiwnnyyyyy
11 ай бұрын
@@_Sw1ft_depends in a shooting battle Rdr2 John loses and rdr1 John wins but in a hand to hand combat rdr2 John loses to Arthur and rdr1 also loses to Arthur
@brodyblade9370
11 ай бұрын
“Can’t herd, can’t swim!”
@Shadow_killer-_-0
9 ай бұрын
I never learned because of my father dieing and my mother I don't know to be honest
@Oliveira-tm9tn
9 ай бұрын
At least can breathe
@_joeythegoat_
9 ай бұрын
@@Oliveira-tm9tnwho's gonna tell em 💀
@Oliveira-tm9tn
9 ай бұрын
@@_joeythegoat_ strange man
@Lupo32
9 ай бұрын
Didn't john help bonnie mcfarland Herd in rdr 1 ?
@eurobuisness
9 ай бұрын
Those two are equal. Rockstar made these two so damn good ,they just can't be compared. Good job with edit , shit goes hardd
@bn8400
8 ай бұрын
The thing that impressed me is that John managed to knock out Benito in one punch.
@tgtme
Жыл бұрын
Big fat W 🥶🔥
@Basan614
11 ай бұрын
YOU’RE GODAMN RIGHT 🗿-
@Dudejustwork
11 ай бұрын
Hello again
@Basan614
11 ай бұрын
@@Dudejustwork bro I’ve seen you in so many comment sections 💀
@daddysnfoor
11 ай бұрын
@@Dudejustworkwtf are you doing here?
@Dudejustwork
11 ай бұрын
@@daddysnfoor ??? What
@captaintristan1176
10 ай бұрын
"Come on Arthur. Your my brother!" Arthur: I know. Saddest thing in that game.
@hoagieheadz5445
6 ай бұрын
When authur says" i think i done pushed all I can" 💯
@IfYouSeeThisYouredooda
8 ай бұрын
john wins a gun fight arthur wins a fist fight 🎉
@anthonybastos1040
7 ай бұрын
Arthur in chapter 4:😮 Arthur in chapter7: 🇺🇲🥃
@ThatGuyCJ__
3 ай бұрын
@@anthonybastos1040what? He died in chap 6
@JoJowitMojo
2 ай бұрын
@@ThatGuyCJ__epilogue I guess
@alivosohg8375
29 күн бұрын
👍👍🔥
@NotTNT2023
3 ай бұрын
Both gangstas until uncle come up without lumbago 💀
@GoofyVergil
11 ай бұрын
"Brain got eaten by wolves" 💀💀💀
@RoyereyoR
11 ай бұрын
"you're the only person who got half his brain eaten and became smarter"
@Unchartedirl
2 ай бұрын
Well, akshuly johns brain really did not get his brains eaten by Wolf's because if the brain did really get a bite taken out of it, john would die in seconds of critical body failure and his brain would bleed to shit
@FatefulMedia3383
4 ай бұрын
I honestly love how you include canon lore and feats instead of just vague stamps of dominance, really elevates the quality 🤠
@Ctrybpkm
9 ай бұрын
“You might be the first bastard to have half his brain eaten by a wolf, and come out more intelligent.”
@MaxiFlanagan
12 күн бұрын
Yeah imagine if they eat all your brain maybe then youll be a genius
@DinaricUbermensch
5 ай бұрын
that scene where john smokes a cig in fort mercer assault was so badass
@Skylark241
Ай бұрын
It is a fair comparison in my openion. You also gave explanations, that’s good
@rebeccarussell8428
11 ай бұрын
Nah bro went from knowing wolves To much to meeting Bigfoot😂
@Shadow_killer-_-0
9 ай бұрын
He eats babies
@guilhermeoswaldomiguel-hx3zq
10 ай бұрын
In a random encounter, Arthur lift a dead horse to save a woman and if you lasso a bision, you can kill it with kicks💀
@Z8-2
9 ай бұрын
a horse can weigh up to 1 ton, arthur could easily deadlift 300kg
@darkraid4238
9 ай бұрын
He even seems to equal forces with some men much bigger than him, like Tommy, since he was even able to throw him to the ground
@MetricRetr0
8 ай бұрын
Yet it takes Arthur minimal 3 seconds to push down a empty cupboard
@anthonybastos1040
8 ай бұрын
@@MetricRetr0he drops it instantly. This depends on whether the player does it right away, I did it in less than 1 second
@MetricRetr0
8 ай бұрын
@@anthonybastos1040 I meant max 3 secs if tap repeatedly btw not minimum And maybe you use pc or whatever But the point is even beta male me could just tip it over immediately and not groan like Arthur
@David-mz8xk
26 күн бұрын
John played two governments so that when he was found out hed have a safety net. Johns smarter in all regards
@mistermedia7409
9 ай бұрын
It’s crazy how people don’t realize how big Arthur is he is 6’2 he is absolutely huge the guy he fought while drunk must have been closer to 6’5-6’10
@bbrandumbb
8 ай бұрын
He’s 6’1, Dutch is 6’3, while John is 5’11.
@mistermedia7409
6 ай бұрын
@@_milf_lover_Arthur is 6’1-6’2 the man he fought is based off of the giant men of the time who would be 6’5+
@Skylark241
Ай бұрын
@@bbrandumbbJohn is 5’10 and Arrhur is 6’1
@MaxiFlanagan
12 күн бұрын
How big do you guys think tommy was and also his weight please comment down below (maybe 6ft3 for tommy?)
@GS-GamingShark
11 ай бұрын
I just want to say that Arthur is smarter than John because he is educated and smart, so I would say the point should go to Arthur
@dankshirt854
11 ай бұрын
Arthur and John both learned to read from Dutch and Hosea
@GS-GamingShark
11 ай бұрын
@@dankshirt854 yea, but I would still say Arthur Is smarter
@fall_comic6985
11 ай бұрын
Difference between being educated and being smart. Like me knowing who was the 14th American president wouldn't help me in a fight.
@Saymyname-nm3dc
11 ай бұрын
Nah,John with the half eaten brain is smarter,if he had his brain fully eaten,then he’d be a genius
@GS-GamingShark
11 ай бұрын
@@fall_comic6985 yeah and Arthur is also smart, he thinks about plans before executing them, and so does John, but i don’t know. We do have to remember that Arthur is a little older and has more battle experience
@Aclipso
Жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention that John actually got shot in the blackwater heist as mentioned by Javier
@Vengeance1996
11 ай бұрын
He got shot quite a bit in the story
@Drexzzz4
10 ай бұрын
Arthur and hosea had to come help on the other sidr of town once they heard the shooting
@Drexzzz4
10 ай бұрын
Thats why John wasn't never skilled
@RandomGoober_
10 ай бұрын
@@Drexzzz4average Arthur fanboy 🥱. By that logic Arthur isn’t skilled either because he got captured and shot by the o’driscolls
@Drexzzz4
10 ай бұрын
@@RandomGoober_ daw fuck Arthur and John I don't care about this shit y'all the one gay for cowboys y'all keep debating about the shit and going back and forth
@B.A.R.D.I.A
Ай бұрын
"Little Johnny Marston" 😏 -Arthur Morgan
@Shrek_fan69
2 ай бұрын
Song name pls I’m desperate 😢
@SonOfAGun19
11 ай бұрын
I like the reference “his brain got eaten by wolves”
@madworld8422
11 ай бұрын
John is young compared to arthur in rdr 2 Rdr 1 John is whole different level
@Lupo32
9 ай бұрын
Arthur was in his mid 30s John was in his mid 20s to late 20s
@xxultrazeraoraxx5616
8 ай бұрын
@@Lupo32he was 27 I'm petty sure
@user-hx6gs9rq7u
8 ай бұрын
@@xxultrazeraoraxx561626
@titanashinsuke1901
6 ай бұрын
Arthur in rdr2 is 36, John in rdr is 38
@Drexzzz4
6 ай бұрын
@@titanashinsuke1901 prime Arthur with no tb slams bruh Arthur was literally fighting Micah while having tb and fell of a mountain that was about 6 feet tall and dont forget Arthur was not hydrated and had his lungs almost collapsed and he still was able to fight it off like it was nothing he also fought off the us army on a tropical island which was gurama while Being sick also still and being shipwrecked while on a boat John wouldn't been able to survive being shipwrecked because he would have drowned he also saved John and in Valentine when cornwall had him hostage he was able to take out 7 to 10 men holding him hostage so he definitely was more accurate and faster at the time he also shot a dynamite that lenny had thrown during the saint denis trolley mission while it was moving that's way harder than shooting a hat out the sky that's being throw up right in front of you and also the wagon was moving so he had to have had some quick reflex's to do that also Arthur also took out 4 of the most legendary gunslingers even tho you can do these missions as John there really suppose to be done as Arthur because if you play as John doing these missions you can clearly see that John has the same motion captions as Arthur and the same hand movements also more evidence to back this up is when Arthur got captured and torched by colm he got shot with a shotgun 2 times point blank range to the mid chest and shoulder and he also got shot 2 times in the back with a rifle still trying to escape and Arthur never ate and still was able to kill most people while being injured and escape on a horse meanwhile john get captured in Mexico and can't get out and had to get saved by someone John is tough but not tough as Arthur In my opinion and to make this clear on why Arthur is stronger than John is because he is able to lift a horse off a women in a random encounter and also Arthur is able to lift dudes off the ground and choke them in mid air also battle iq and intelligence goes to Arthur bruh when has John Ever been more intelligent than Arthur bro Arthur participated in many of the gang heist and always planned and had a plan B when a plan A is messed up Arthur definitely takes intelligent and battle iq Arthur should have won mid diff I have no idea why you rdr 1 fans come on every John vs Arthur debate video and y'all use John got trained by Landon ricketts that's why he's better than Arthur when Landon only taught John a new deadeye ability and taught him how to shoot straight Arthur already knew deadeye and already learned it and mastred it before john could even learn it from Landon and who knows Arthur probably can easily destroy Landon because even tho Arthur is dead i think he was born before Landon and probably had more experience than him well I know for a fact Arthur has more experience than john because he is 10 years older than John but Landon I don't know about that and yes I know that John is 38 years old in rdr but Arthur still takes experience because John took a 4 year break
@andreee436
2 ай бұрын
Name song please
@Gr0s3d
2 күн бұрын
"Durability to John?", cmon man... Arthur with TB demostrate he is a fucking tank
@captain_j.price141
11 ай бұрын
John also has eagle eye. You can use it in the epiluge he just doesnt have it in rdr1 bc it wasnt a thing
@thatguy5583
11 ай бұрын
Still he didn't have it in 1911
@Ka7_Edits
11 ай бұрын
@@thatguy5583because it wasn't a thing like he said
@oneirish
11 ай бұрын
John also has it but Arthur has far more experience with it as he’s been using it longer.
@Kedilaa
11 ай бұрын
That ability isnt canon, it Just shows how Good Arthur aim is, also it would be way less fun if they removed the ability
@vojtechcepak7775
11 ай бұрын
@@KedilaaWe are talking about eagle eye, not dead eye. Eagle eye is the one you use for hunting, or when you are looking for something like items, footprints etc.
@UnfaithfulSalmon
11 ай бұрын
Not to mention Arthur had TB and while literally on his deathbed he was still by far the most dangerous gang member
@gregplantz8506
9 ай бұрын
The most dangerous gang member would be John Dutch or Micha
@skillzyt6286
8 ай бұрын
@@gregplantz8506nah it Arthur, no debate
@Drexzzz4
6 ай бұрын
@@gregplantz8506John couldn't even take out a old version of dutch I doubt he'll be able to handle pirme Arthur
@ArjunB5
6 ай бұрын
@@Drexzzz4he easily could’ve killed Dutch multiple times if he had to. He just didn’t end up needing to.
@Drexzzz4
6 ай бұрын
@@ArjunB5 no he wouldn't John knew that he couldn't take dutch that easy also dutch was the one that raised Arthur and John and taught them how to survive so he obviously knows there weaknesses he could have easily killed John on that mountain when he shot him 100 meters away with just a relover the only thing that saved John was them bionculars dutch definitely could kill Arthur and John if he wanted to and dutch told John it was no point even going after him anyway because he knew right after John went for him that they were gonna turn on him and go after him next they went after Arthur and dutch for all them years finally got them ,then they went after Micah then Bill Javier and then dutch and then John was the last one that's the only reason Dutch didn't want to kill John
@Adam_RDR
Ай бұрын
Your saying the guy that got shot thirty times and still stood and the guy that got torn apart by wolves and lived and shot off a train and walked back to the camp then stood off against hundreds of pinkertons and survived I’m sorry sir but endurance goes to Marston
@Skylark241
Ай бұрын
He got shot 20 times, not 30 times
@Jellobeam32991
3 ай бұрын
"next time let wolfes eat all your brain and you'll be a genius"
@ConmanPlayz
11 ай бұрын
Battle iq goes to John for me because he outsmarted the Mexican government
@West_is_Jelqing
11 ай бұрын
Real
@ConmanPlayz
10 ай бұрын
@@West_is_JelqingThanks brother
@Drexzzz4
10 ай бұрын
@@ConmanPlayz mane hell nah the Mexican government was easy to outsmart even Arthur would have did that but the thing is Arthur can kill someone with fist John can't
@ConmanPlayz
10 ай бұрын
@@Drexzzz4 Ok first off have you played rdr1? I’m not being ugly I’m just asking
@Drexzzz4
10 ай бұрын
@@ConmanPlayz yes I have and I already know what you finna say John was cold in 1911
@dingarui
11 ай бұрын
I’d say endurance is Arthur >= John (John fell from a train whilst being shot and somehow walked back to camp, endured bites and scratches from a bear, endured in the winter and the wolves) but Arthur’s endurance feats are slightly better due to TB and him being tortured twice. Skill imo John >= Arthur. Take the swimming and drawing aside, John can learn fast and we’ve seen it during the epilogue, plus he learned things from Landon as well. Battle IQ gotta go to John, yes you may beg to differ but he won against a whole army during a civil war and he was a good leader during rdr1. John also planned on the train robbery during chapter 2. Abilities is equal imo, John can activate eagle eye as well, remember that he was taught by the early members of the Van Der Linde Gang.
@soggyyeet9246
11 ай бұрын
I'd give abilities to Arthur, because he has a special ability where he can cough on John and give him TB 😈
@Patatras_5325
11 ай бұрын
Thing is even tho john has all of Arthur's ability in RDR 2 thats just for gameplay he doesn't really have them in canon and also biq still Arthur he makes different version of many plans on the fly and john always had someone do the plans for him in the Mexican revolution he didn't make any of his own he was just there to mostly help
@Patatras_5325
11 ай бұрын
Skill also to Arthur hes overall a better gunslinger and has been doing it for far longer so he knows more and john only got shown by rickets how to shoot properly Arthur can heard and tame horses from the very start of the game without help
@dingarui
11 ай бұрын
@@Patatras_5325 ok fair point
@dingarui
11 ай бұрын
@@soggyyeet9246 nah bro that ain’t abilities no more, that’s hax
@barefootdrummervlogs9737
8 ай бұрын
Someone messed up the draw speed thing rewatch the Micha and Arthur scene and you'll understand
@TheRealArthurMorgann.
8 ай бұрын
RIP Arthur Morgan 🐎 🕊 He didn't deserve to die
@freshlydeadpornfoxhardigan1202
11 ай бұрын
arthur always has a plan b when plan a gets fucked up.
@TheNightmareOfAll
11 ай бұрын
Plan B : X X X X X X X X X X
@Snake_eyes0
9 ай бұрын
Well John's plans never failed freind
@RealTeX1
9 ай бұрын
@@Snake_eyes0wasnt a plan of his to not get shot down by the ross?
@liamsteiner8010
9 ай бұрын
@@RealTeX1wasn’t it Arthur plan not to get tb
@Snake_eyes0
9 ай бұрын
@@RealTeX1 Nope he knew he had to get shot down by Ross in order for his family to be free if John ran or anything he and his family would've been hunting down for eternity, Maybe try actually playing the game instead of making comments on something you have no knowledge on
@Jakobebeballin
11 ай бұрын
The intelligence thing got me dead 🤣
@Spencer_71
4 күн бұрын
I'm a fan of John Marston, but I also really connected with Arthur in how he tried to change himself to a better person, and how he selflessly sacrificed himself at the end so that John could reunite with his family. It was a powerful moment, as Arthur had nothing left to lose while John had his family waiting for him.
@BrunoSilva-zb8vr
6 ай бұрын
Arthur vs John: 🤡😴💅 Arthur and John: 😱🔥🗿
@Sandman-Amp.
11 ай бұрын
This shit go hard, even tho I’d say John wins
@Deusgo101
11 ай бұрын
1911 John was extremely skilful but Arthur’s movement/weapons might give him the upper hand. All we know though is thaw John survived the transformation of the west
@Sandman-Amp.
11 ай бұрын
@@Deusgo101 I’d say Arthur is skillful but John has better movement and weapons
@DeadX2
11 ай бұрын
@@Deusgo101John carries.more weapons than Arthur
@kekkuchen20
11 ай бұрын
Nah like in a duell it's 50/50 cause john is faster but arthur is more accurate and in a fist fight it's 70/30 in Arthurs favor like john
@West_is_Jelqing
11 ай бұрын
@@kekkuchen20nah John is tough it's more like 50/50
@Soviet_dude
11 ай бұрын
Arthur didn't deserve to die, he actually was a good man..
@Kexetey
11 ай бұрын
agreed
@PurpleXXV_
10 ай бұрын
hell nah
@-Dumberoosci
10 ай бұрын
@@PurpleXXV_bro wanted Arthur dead 💀
@PurpleXXV_
10 ай бұрын
@@-Dumberoosci he was just not a good man dude
@-Dumberoosci
10 ай бұрын
@@PurpleXXV_ He wasn’t until the end, but you should’ve specified that you were talking about him not being a good man, instead of saying hell nah 🤠
@ONEPEAKofficial
Ай бұрын
"HAVE SOME GODDAMN FAITH!" -Dutch Vanderline 1899
@Pooperfrfr
5 ай бұрын
This edit spills so many true fax especially the accuracy and the endurance and durability they were so true W edit finally
@LiterallyYou.
11 ай бұрын
I totally agree but I think draw speed goes to Arthur because in most missions like the Braithwaite manor attack there's a cutscene where Arthur and John both barge open the door and it turns into a dead eye draw and Arthur draws his gun before John and kills them before John can even draw his own weapon.
@user-hx6gs9rq7u
11 ай бұрын
That was 1899 John
@LiterallyYou.
11 ай бұрын
@@user-hx6gs9rq7uand just because he's an older John doesn't mean he's better I mean like all he got was a few tips from landon so.
@user-hx6gs9rq7u
11 ай бұрын
@@LiterallyYou. Well he’s obviously gotten a lot better with a gun after 12 years
@LiterallyYou.
11 ай бұрын
@@user-hx6gs9rq7u yes John did get better but still not as good as Arthur I mean John was just drawing random npcs but with arthur he was drawing legendary gunslingers.
@Noah-po4gg
10 ай бұрын
@@LiterallyYou.those gunslingers that he defeated weren’t even that good. They just had an exaggerated legend. And plus 2 of them literally cheated.
@ArthurMorgan18993
11 ай бұрын
This describes how I feel about the 2 exactly. They are so evenly matched in almost every way, but if they ever had to go up against each other in their peak, Arthur would put John in the ground. Brothers never fight, but Arthur would win.
@Aclipso
10 ай бұрын
I love both John and Arthur but John would still demolish Arthur Strength: Arthur he's bigger taller and bulkier Speed: John Slimmer and he has a faster draw speed as I will explain soon Durability: Equal John could take 2 hits to the back of the head full strength from the back of a gun Arthur only took 1 to the face he also survived being exploded on a truck while Arthurs shotgun feat is impressive John’s explosion is just as impressive Endurance: John because first John was shot in the Blackwater Heist and still got away then a few days later he gets mauled by wolves and stranded on a mountain in probably negative degree weather. Next John gets shot off a train and most likely he rolls down a small hill before he gets up and walks all the way back to camp. Next, he gets mauled by a bear. Next shot by Bill's gang. Next hit in the head full strength with the back of a gun and doesn't get a concussion. Next gets exploded on a car and finally, after all of that he gets shot like 15 times and survives for 45 seconds. Intelligence: John Different areas of expertise John is a better rancher builder and Arthur admitted that John was a faster learner than himself plus John is older, But Arthur is better at drawing so more artistic and probably better at cleaning because he cleans guns more often in the story. But John managed to calm down the sheep auction staff compared to Arthur who was threatening them. Battle IQ: John he practically carried the mexican revolution and he is better at stealth since he is able to sneak into a bank in RDR1 and has multiple sneaking sections Skill: John he was trained by Landon Ricketts, he is faster and has a lower reaction time Abilities: John Eagle-Eye, Dead-Eye, Wall Grabbing, Car Driving (with a trainer) Accuracy: Equal because John was trained by Landon Ricketts and shot a hat out of the air before that and Arthur shot bottles that John was having a little trouble doing in RDR1 Draw Speed: John (This one is my favorite) It's not even close in the ending of RDR1 John draws his gun on like 20 or so people with their fingers most likely on their trigger ready to kill John so if they were to see him draw his gun they would definitely shoot but instead he pulls his gun faster than they can react and shoot him, and considering the average time to react and click is 200 ms I would say it would've taken about 230-300 ms to react and fire their guns yet John is able to pull his gun out and still shoot a few people I'm honestly guessing that John got so skilled in this moment that his deadeye was even slower than before which is why if you don't shoot you can still last a while in deadeye Hand to Hand Arthur: It's obvious he’s bigger built and gave brain damage to Tommy Stamina: John can't run out in RDR1 and he has never been shown to run out of stamina in a cutscene Combat: John newer guns combined with better Draw Speed and Skill Weapons: John automatic Mauser Pistol or a High-power pistol also an explosive rifle Experience: Arthur, John joined the gang younger and lived longer but 4 years of his life he did Ranching AP: John explosive rifle literally obliterates things. DC: Arthur fire bottle spread is bigger which means more destruction Reflexes: John slower dead eye which means he has a faster reaction time Winner: John Marston Mid-High diff I'm sorry but John is just too dominant. (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about anything in this)
@cdy7480
9 ай бұрын
@@Aclipsopretty sure Arthur has a faster draw speed I also heard Arthur has the highest base stats
@cdy7480
9 ай бұрын
@@Aclipsoand for durability you said the same thing as endurance
@Aclipso
9 ай бұрын
@@cdy7480 I definitely didn't lol and John still has a faster draw speed it's about 60 milliseconds
@clownprince1313
8 ай бұрын
@@Aclipsohow the hell are you measuring those things? 😂 60 milliseconds are too quick to even get an actual idea.
@anilsilvercock
6 күн бұрын
Loved the explanations
@TacitusMorgan.
2 ай бұрын
Arthur at his prime (chapter 1- 4 vs john at his prime (rdr 1)
@idonthaveaname228
11 ай бұрын
John was a faster learner so i don't doubt him being more intelligent
@jessepinkman8847
10 ай бұрын
Have you not read Arthur’s journal? Book smarts would go to Arthur. Chore life of just task wise it might be john.
@Aclipso
10 ай бұрын
@@jessepinkman8847 Book smarts isn't a category lol but he is more artistic and creative but John is better at talking to people considering he managed to calm down the sheep salemen.
@Drexzzz4
6 ай бұрын
@@AclipsoArthur is more of a experience killer than John but in terms of shooting they both are the same
@Chill_for_sec
6 ай бұрын
@@Aclipsonah arthur is wayy more better talking to people even when we did missions with john Arthur was always the one who speak while john just accept the offer without thinking much or making themselves a good offer
@themester1112
10 ай бұрын
John: *relaxing in New Austin* Arthur: *comes out from a random portal* (the hell he find a time machime) John: "Finaly, a worty opponent ! Our battle will be legendary !" This is a real comparison, and a legendary one
@Hannovich2011
9 ай бұрын
Arthur and Johns have the same draw speed
@thatrandomguy1168
6 күн бұрын
Arther survived a shotgun to his shoulder
@Matt-wb8ni
11 ай бұрын
I love how he says that it’s just his opinion, yet gives them points for stuff that would be considered facts.
@millythecat7316
6 ай бұрын
props for explaining your choices. It's a good touch. First time I see it and I appreciate it. Doesn't matter if I don't agree with everything. What's the difference between durability and endurance tho? since also the descrition in both cases is what the 2 managed to withstand and survive?
@butterflybasics1688
2 ай бұрын
Arthurs accuracy is better, johns got sonned by Landon rickets remember
@Echo0360
11 ай бұрын
id say john wins, but great video!
@jessepinkman8847
10 ай бұрын
Your high bud
@SoldadoHyliano141
9 ай бұрын
@@jessepinkman8847play the first game lil bro
@anthonybastos1040
4 ай бұрын
@@SoldadoHyliano141arguments of fanboys John: PLAYED RDR1 ARTHUR FEATS IN RDR2 IS MUCU BETTER AND DUTCH MENCION IN RDR2 ARTHUR IS BETTER GUNFIGHT OF GANG.
@MikesCollectiblesV2
11 ай бұрын
1911 John is the best of the vanderline gang he solos everyone
@anthonybastos1040
8 ай бұрын
Nah arthur> john
@Senin1900
7 ай бұрын
@@anthonybastos1040John killed half of the van der linde gang and even killed it's leader
@anthonybastos1040
7 ай бұрын
@@Senin1900 kill javier and bill and dutch? dutch was already old Javier is nothing compared to Arthur and John bill too so your argument is invalid because john killed many members inside arthur
@Chill_for_sec
6 ай бұрын
@@Senin1900John killed the remaining 3 members who are all junkies and old maniac and someone with a big ego And dutch killed himself even if john was gonna killed him dutch killed himself first
@Mommy-Leaf
3 ай бұрын
@@anthonybastos1040 john killed the top gunslingers of the van der linde gang bill javier micah and dutch who did Arthur kill worth of recognition ? 😂 John also was trained by the Legendary Landon rickets the best gunslinger in the west, he was so dangerous and was taking out gangs by himself such as skinners bandiots del lobo’s gang Williams gang Walton’s gang bollard twins gang Dutch etc Edgar Ross seeing what John was cable of saw him as threat and decided to bring an whole army with him just to take him out bro had the whole American government against him and was taking out law enforcements John slams
@euniceamemberoftheevergive7029
8 ай бұрын
I feel as if people are ignoring the fact that John not only learned from Dutch, Hosea, and Arthur, but also learned from Landon Ricketts, the best gunslinger in the west (in the Red Dead Redemption timeline, we all know Swift Jack is the best.)
@ImnHazzz
2 ай бұрын
“Brain got eaten by wolves”☠️☠️
@marinocuzic6087
11 ай бұрын
Fax and edit is fire🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Midnight_4230
8 ай бұрын
Tbh, I feel like Arthur would pull the SMOOTHEST disarm, do some gun tricks, laugh, and tell john "You still got a lot to learn" or smth
@ZubrPolski
7 ай бұрын
In my opinion Yes, 1899 john would get disarmed but 1911 john would easily beat arthur, he had time to train his dueling and was also trained by a gunslinger how to duel better, so Yes, 1899 john would be beaten but definetly not 1911 john
@ArjunB5
6 ай бұрын
A little unrelated but I wish we had a Landon ricketts encounter in rdr2 that went exactly like this. Maybe as one of the final gunslinger missions. It would have to be Arthur exclusive tho ofc to not break canon.
@fightingtothepoint4u732
5 ай бұрын
I dont see arthur surving mexico
@Midnight_4230
5 ай бұрын
@@fightingtothepoint4u732 We never got to see him go to Mexico, did we? You don’t know that
@Broken_Savior
5 ай бұрын
@@fightingtothepoint4u732Since I'm rather bored of the insufferable meat riding from both sides, I'd like to propose a more fun scenario. In an alternate universe, where John and Arthur both undertake Mexico. Keep in mind: John topples a government just so he can get to one man. With Arthur alongside him, that place is glassed into little more than a parking lot.
@Gasoek406
2 ай бұрын
Even though Arthur Morgan was more skilled than John Marston, Arthur Morgan couldn't kill him because they were both like brothers
@Iansju
16 күн бұрын
I like that you explained why
@Nasserattaf
10 ай бұрын
I think Arthur overall is better since he fought on a mountaintop killing many dozen pinkerton agents while being deathly ill.
@badsie1
10 ай бұрын
meanwhile john held off an army by himself
@bbrandumbb
8 ай бұрын
@@badsie1 while being filled with bullets and managing to stand tall.
@Drexzzz4
7 ай бұрын
@@badsie1😂😂 cap
@badsie1
7 ай бұрын
@@Drexzzz4 nah sorry arthur fan
@Drexzzz4
7 ай бұрын
@@badsie1 lmaoo how you gonna call me a Arthur fan when you in this bitch dick Riding John lame ass rdr 1 fans then y'all try to tell people to go play rdr 1 after they say they don't agree with y'all opinion 😂 y'all clowns for real and I'm not a Arthur fan I'm a red Harlow fan I played red dead relover in 2004 when it came out and for the sake I already know why your saying he's better because he killed some Mexican soilders with help meanwhile Arthur is over here taking out us soilders and taking out us army forts and he also took out a battleship on gurama and some more us soilders the only perosn that could beat Arthur is red Harlow man
@I_M_Pro___
10 ай бұрын
If he got his entire brain eaten he would’ve been a genius
@deathdog2913
Ай бұрын
I love how this dude actually put down explanations as to why he think each character would win stat wise
@Acair458
4 ай бұрын
I’m sorry bro, but John wins. in red dead one he was on Arthurs skill level once he got training from Landon, rickets, Arthur’s level of skill he took out a whole entire dictatorship almost completely single-handedly, and he was on par with Landon Ricketts his teacher, who was the same man who was shooting people left and right at the Blackwater massacre
@Drexzzz4
4 ай бұрын
He wasn't never on Arthur level in the epilogue Arthur wouldn't have got pinned down by Micah also John couldn't out draw a older Micah when Arthur out drew Micah while he was sick and half way dead that proves to you Arthur was already way better than John how about 1911 John well he was rusty and he also got shot by a gang member at the start of the game he couldn't even use his deadeye at the start Arthur still was probably better in my opinion and John didn't take out Micah and dutch he only took out Bill and Javier he would have died to Micah if it wasn't for dutch
@Drexzzz4
4 ай бұрын
And also Arthur was one of the best marksmanship in the gang and he was probably much better when he was in his 20s
@Drexzzz4
4 ай бұрын
And combat easily goes to Arthur because Arthur would probably knockout John in 5 seconds
@mr_duke2148
11 ай бұрын
This Beat Hits Hard Bro What the name of it?
@Kexetey
11 ай бұрын
I tried finding it but couldnt find it, sorry man
@mr_duke2148
11 ай бұрын
Aww that sucks well thanks for looking for it tho
@criminalganglandman5797
11 ай бұрын
Crystals
@madminute6662
5 ай бұрын
@@criminalganglandman5797thanks
@M4M4Gorille
Ай бұрын
@@criminalganglandman5797 the goat ty
@Mrmonke515
11 ай бұрын
John Marston W 🐐🐐🐐 he’s the OG goat
@SNORLAX8888
4 ай бұрын
Don't even about stamina to John😊
@Arturo_Kilgore_Morgan
3 ай бұрын
“They act like two legends cannot coexist”
@metatron6254
2 ай бұрын
Nah, John take this, he just has better deeds, he changed the course of the Mexican Revolution.
@ant_178
Ай бұрын
No, he ENDED the Mexican Revolution.
@Mannwithnoname
4 ай бұрын
Both great
@Drexzzz4
4 ай бұрын
Ye but I low-key think Arthur determination could overpower John's
@ydsxa
6 ай бұрын
“You sir are a gentleman a sigma and a fish”
@Randorr
8 ай бұрын
THE BRAINS EATEN HELP
@bbrandumbb
8 ай бұрын
Song: Crystals (Slowed) Thank me later.
@RycerskiPolak
7 ай бұрын
*super slowed
@iramvela4493
6 ай бұрын
Thanks
@Totally_Alastor
5 ай бұрын
This isn’t crystals
@RycerskiPolak
5 ай бұрын
@@Totally_Alastor this is crystals but phonk
@RycerskiPolak
5 ай бұрын
@@Totally_Alastor this is made by isolate exe
@mrsandhu1215
9 ай бұрын
Brother John took down the Mexican army I think that is more impressive than “planning bank heists”
@user-yx4eu2zf8o
9 ай бұрын
but he dont make it alone. bruh
@akuma404
5 ай бұрын
Did Arthur plan the heists all alone? @@user-yx4eu2zf8o
@akuma404
5 ай бұрын
RDR1 John is peak not even close..
@kendrick6387
9 ай бұрын
Finally a fair comparison
@Irridiancy
3 ай бұрын
Arthur vs Morgan ❌ Arthur and Morgan ✅
@Sporty_Prodz33
11 ай бұрын
Brothers Don’t Fight
@fallahchandra7851
9 ай бұрын
Enough yt in this day, tq sir
@chicohernandez1392
9 ай бұрын
brother dont fight? . . .do you have any brothers?
@Sporty_Prodz33
8 ай бұрын
I meant for Arthur and John and no I don’t have a brother but I know brothers fight I was just saying this about the Arthur and john
@HighBluey
6 ай бұрын
Dutch and John Dutch and Arthur
@adamlee537
8 ай бұрын
Arthur wins cause he killed most of the gunslingers
@user-hx6gs9rq7u
8 ай бұрын
Killed most of the gunslingers who are literally all either frauds or drunk and out of their prime. You can do that mission as John too btw
@adamlee537
8 ай бұрын
@user-hx6gs9rq7u Maybe. but what about the one with the ranch of pigshit?
@user-hx6gs9rq7u
8 ай бұрын
@@adamlee537He doesn’t even use a gun lol he just throws a knife at you
@anthonybastos1040
8 ай бұрын
@@user-hx6gs9rq7uIf you compare the entire Red Dead franchise, Arthur has many more scenes of human speed. 1- levectus cornwall missions chapter2 2- chapter 3 mission where sean dies arthurvmata 3 grays in thousands 3- chapter 3- Arthur in the braithwhaite mansion kills 2 members 4- chapter 4-arthur kills 5 of angelo bronte's men before all the gang members draw their weapons. 5- Arthur in chapter 5 gets cornered and kills 2 guys in a guard and kills them 6- Arthur, when he returns to the normal world and goes to Lakay, kills many Pinkrtons in Deadeye 7- chapter 6 arthur kills 4 men with a sniper to steal a cart with bill These are the canonical ones. If I consider random events and secondary MISSIONS, Arthur draws his gun on Deadeye at least 17 times in the game.
@eggsyholland2929
7 ай бұрын
They Both Legends ✅✅ Legends Never Fight🤝
@user-xc2ud4mh6z
8 ай бұрын
In a duel who would win John Marston or Arthur Morgan
@anthonybastos1040
8 ай бұрын
Arthur morgan in chapater 4 wins.
@underratednature
7 ай бұрын
John definitely he was trained by landon
@anthonybastos1040
6 ай бұрын
@@underratednatureArthur Morgan prime>>>: Landon Ricktess
@underratednature
6 ай бұрын
@@anthonybastos1040 i love arthur but come on don't disrespect landon like that arthur barely defeated old gunslingers he's not even close to landon
@anthonybastos1040
6 ай бұрын
@@underratednature Arthur prime in 1895>>> ALL Red dead
@mepatri2048
11 ай бұрын
John’s got durability till waters involved.
@durak7591
10 ай бұрын
C'mon Morgan! Just fight-
@thedamnedcat3240
10 ай бұрын
i loved how in the 2nd game he still couldnt swim lol
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