balancing by repair is such a broken system. it just makes people not play the vehicles they want
@Ash007YT
3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@am0comix952
3 жыл бұрын
Plus they increased repair costs for everything this update
@addedcheese
3 жыл бұрын
@@am0comix952 Well there is hope, after a year of community struggle top tier tanks are now at a repair cost where they are playable so maybe there is hope for the rest of the vehicles too, both air and ground
@Selvikus
3 жыл бұрын
*cries in P-51D30, F82 and F11 repair costs* I feel you man
@taqoz19
3 жыл бұрын
Im just struggeling making any money at all in WT. So i play low tier for grinding money for top tier stuff, kinda broken
@isaacfatchen1457
3 жыл бұрын
I just love facing supersonic jets in my 8.7 Sabre... so much fun, can definitely fend against missiles
@darrenbrown2050
3 жыл бұрын
I had to stop playing aircraft cause of that, it's just too hard to play the sabre
@isaacfatchen1457
3 жыл бұрын
Darren Brown at least if you do good as a prop you can get 10k+ experience if you land
@Ivy_TSG
3 жыл бұрын
I get good results in it but that's due to experience (not trying to flex). Dodging missiles isn't hard unless it's harriers. But they're adding more 9.3/9.7 aircraft that got 10.7 missiles which is just ridicilous. No 8.7 can dodge these unless they go over 1000 kp/h but guess what. That speed ain't exactly easy to reach a lot of the time in those planes.
@balazsbelavari7556
3 жыл бұрын
@@Ivy_TSG not even reaching, you can rip off your wings in many of around 8.7 aircraft, if you turn whilst going above a thousand kph
@Ivy_TSG
3 жыл бұрын
@@balazsbelavari7556 Forgot about that yeah. You won't rip if you tap it but then you won't dodge the missile so. ITS BALANS KOMRAD)))
@Joltout
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine balancing a game by making people not able to play the vehicles they unlocked because they died first match after scrounging up pennies to buy it and training their crew.
@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870
3 жыл бұрын
Gaijin should just start balancing by SP. This could also solve the Dreadnought powercreep in naval.
@mayonotes9849
3 жыл бұрын
@@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 Sorry komrad, we don't do that here ))))) 🔫
@nostradamusofgames5508
3 жыл бұрын
in other words Gaijin are ultra greedy fuckshits
@tangilehenaff7954
3 жыл бұрын
@@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 interesting idea, that is more or less a thing in tank rb already, but how would you apply it to air rb ?
@gregc9344
3 жыл бұрын
@The First Primaris Cato Sicarius Already been done on things like the us adats, I don’t see how it would effect planes that much though
@ComaradComisar
3 жыл бұрын
Imagine playing subsonic jets without flairs or missiles and fighting supersonic jets with boths of those things, just imagine. Fun!
@kavichauhan5728
3 жыл бұрын
Removing repair costs would solve a lot of issues. Like not having fun.
@davidty2006
3 жыл бұрын
yes also you no longer need to play low tier arcade to get cash anymore.
@m1a1abrams3
3 жыл бұрын
removing wallet whales would cut money from gaijin, mabye they would listen then
@2.Cuzzzz
3 жыл бұрын
so true
@FSDRyan
3 жыл бұрын
It would help but the balance/br issues are still massive.
@harrio7793
3 жыл бұрын
Gaijin expects people to learn jets with the meteor mk 3 when it costs 22k to repair
@theclockmaker633
3 жыл бұрын
The meteor isnt the Best to learn how to play jets because of its unique characteristicks like fairly good aceleration lower top speed and incredably good turnrate combined with decent enough energy retention i woud say you are beter learning on the vampire if you dont have jets from other nations and if you do the f80 is one of the Best to learn how to play jets properly or at least how to use jets that rely mostly on speed like the saber but you are right that the meteor shoudnt have such High repair cost
@Damian-03x3
3 жыл бұрын
While WW2 rocket at 8.7 that will most likely desintegrate on landing (and takeoff) costs 23k stock.
@theclockmaker633
3 жыл бұрын
@XBOX DARK i have been plaing f2p for a long time and i have the german mig 21 but i will be damned if i get trough the suffering of the stock grind in that plane widout the r60s its borderline uselles
@ryanyogianto
3 жыл бұрын
@@theclockmaker633 I think so, Meteor isnt a good 'how to play jet' vehicle, but its placement makes it, it is one of the 1st jet that you can ever get in british tech tree... although, I dont use Meteor (actually I hate it), I mainly use Vampire, still have good speed, good manuever, its wing doesnt randomly broke when I pull 8g at 600kmh, pretty cool looking jet with double boom design... And about mig21, same.... actually every stock top tier jets is basically unplayable, I sold my F11 on market, bought GE to skipped to R60s, SRAAM on hunter, and AIM-9Js on my FGR2 just to make them at least fun to play...
@theclockmaker633
3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanyogianto at least the gun on the phantoms is usable and has decent ammo count good damage and is fairly accurate the mig in stock condition cant even rely on its gun
@polaskatyu9368
3 жыл бұрын
You know, a lot of people are overlooking the Buccaneer thinking its a ground attacker, only because its labeled as one. But the thing is on the bomber line, can carry more bombs than the F4, it should be played as a bomber instead of a attacker/fighter.
@dasji2
3 жыл бұрын
Makes doing bombing tasks ALOT easier. Slowly grinding my way towards it
@ChutneyGames
2 жыл бұрын
I've seen one irl and anybody who was brave enough to get in that was a different breed of pilot, definition of sketchy, shouldn't be a fighter
See a Tu-4 huehuehue time to swat every single retard 8.0 jet player xD had so many game where i just snipe jets at 2.5k xD
@daniel_f4050
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t get why every airplane should be judged on its usefulness in Air RB. Tanks, Ships and Helicopters aren’t for Air RB. Is that a problem? No. So why then is it an issue for them to add a Strike/Nuclear Bomber? The Buccaneer is a bomber. Jet bombers have no use for guns. They’re nice to have for the game, but not required. The gun pods on the A-7D and Yak 38 should’ve had them on the list. Both of those planes have pods that are stupidly over the top. And their availability so far from reality that the FSB must have been spraying LSD into Gaijin’s offices the day they were approved. I’ve seen photos of the Yak with a pair of 23 mm pods. Never with four. And if ANYONE can find a picture of the SLUF using those 30 mm pods in service I’d love to see them.
@shoeby9273
3 жыл бұрын
@@daniel_f4050 I think people just want everything to be useful in air RB, it would only makes sense. Irl air battles aren't some big cock measuring contest in the sky, they're fighting for air superiority so their attackers and bombers can hit ground targets w/o being attacked. It would be nice to see that portrayed in game.
@EriIaz
3 жыл бұрын
@@Elbereth_TV Tu-4: huehuehue SK60B: allow me to introduce Rb05A
@jojomaster7675
3 жыл бұрын
@@daniel_f4050 Yeah, but the P.108 is just bad. I don't know who would play it over other gunplanes (ju-87g, Hs129, me 410/u) or even regular bombers. And jet bombers do have uses for guns, since they can be used to take out light vehicles, and can also be used to protect against fighters and take out other bombers.
@shortstaccck7965
3 жыл бұрын
I remember when the lightning was the "big issue". Heh. How naive we were.
@Asghaad
3 жыл бұрын
i think Harriers are covering the underlying issue in this patch ... the MM wouldnt be any better without Harrier/AV8 because you got half a dozen supersonics at 9.7 that would club the 8.7-9.7 bracket without the Harriers. Id even say that F100D and MiG21 F-13s are what keeps Harriers in check and the other way around the AV8 and GR1/3 keep the supersonics in check.
@ΓρηγόρηςΠανούσης
3 жыл бұрын
@@Asghaad the f100 and mig 21f do indeed keep harriers in somewhat a check, but the harriers farm everything else, all they have to do is get behind u and even if there 1.5km away, its game over for u, their missiles r inescapable by planes at this br
@unknownworlds5976
3 жыл бұрын
@@Asghaad dude the harrier missles will just barely miss
@julesb6816
3 жыл бұрын
The problem with the SK 60 is that it gets an attacker spawn. You can't play the A2D anymore you just get intercepted by SK60's in 90% of your games before you are able to get to a bomb point. The SK60 would be completely fine with an airfield spawn. The SK 60 gets a high K/D ratio because it kills all the bombers and attackers while it is just an average fighter but it can also have a large altitude advantage if it ignores the bombers. That is why its repair cost is so high.
@pbjman5809
3 жыл бұрын
Oh no, A2D’s actually have competition
@roadhigher
3 жыл бұрын
Sk60B is just the R2Y2 all over again. Overall decent aircraft but nowhere near game breaking, that gets an Air spawn with which it shit's all over 7.0 starter jets that have zero acceleration.
@Ivy_TSG
3 жыл бұрын
Eh. Couldn't care less for A2Ds. As for SK60 that thing just should not have attacker spawn. No jet aircraft should have a attacker spawn unless they are a proper attacker/bomber that really struggle against aircraft.
@spartanj1052
3 жыл бұрын
You’re 100% correct.
@julesb6816
3 жыл бұрын
@@pbjman5809 The A2D is a turboprop attacker that is worse than every jet at its BR. The air spawn gives it the possibility to fight other jets at almost equal terms with its altitude advantage or it can drop its bombs before it can be intercepted. It is very hard to intercept the Ar-234's because it is just too slow to catch the Ar-234's. It is possible to intercept one but you need to time it very well If you are too late he will speed away and if you are there too early, you lack the altitude to generate enough speed to catch him. Meanwhile, the SK60 is a 1970's jet attacker that is just as good as every other early jet fighter at its BR BUT it gets an attacker-spawn spawning you 10 km in front of your runway at medium altitude. This gives you the ability to intercept every enemy bomber/attacker well before they get to their objectives leaving these players without any income but giving you a couple of free kills. You can also use that altitude plus some side climbing to be well above the enemy fighters. Most players seem to go for the easy free kills so option 2 doesn't happen that much. They are completely different aircraft but they are both balanced the same with an attacker-spawn around the same BR (7.0/7.3). The A2D is what a 7.0 attacker should be while the SK60 is a fighter. They are definitely not competitors the SK60 is just better in every way especially when the A2D is loaded with bombs... Bomb-points are laid out so that bombers have just enough time to drop their bombs before being intercepted. It doesn't work when the enemy's bombers are actually fighters... Maybe the SK60 could even see a BR and repair cost reduction when it gets an airfield spawn.
@batteryboi8201
3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes fighting harriers in a mig 15 is my 2nd least favorite pastime
@Asghaad
3 жыл бұрын
guess what, fighting MiG21 BiS in a Harrier isnt sunshine and rainbows either ... the jet MM is simply too compressed, you either fly the top most recent OP plane or you get clubbed...
@kommandantkillcode
3 жыл бұрын
@@Asghaad You still have the SRAAMS and can kill the Bis when it’s flying after someone else, without even trying. The Harrier’s thrust to weight is also much better than it should be at mid to high speeds and altitudes. Using a MiG-19PT, I’ve been caught up to by a Harrier Gr.1 at 7000 meters. So you REALLY need to play something else if you want to learn just how good the Harrier is. Good pilots destroy everyone, even without the missiles, when playing that plane.
@Asghaad
3 жыл бұрын
@@kommandantkillcode empty the Harrier has 1.7 T/W ratio, loaded with 20min fuel it should be able to climb like a rocket which it doesnt... meaning that if anything its T/W ratio is LOWER than it should be you wouldnt be caught by the Harrier if instead of trying to fight it on thrust you used your actual advantage in top speed at ALL altitudes lastly you CANNOT kill a MiG21 BiS with SRAAMs, if you can you would do the same with AiM9b ... because ONE flare drop and the missile is going for it ... and of course decent MiG pilot will never even give you a chance to launch because that kinda requires you to get withing 1.1 KM of him while he is slower than 1000 kph ... you have WAY higher chance of killing a Harrier with MiG15 BiS than Harrier does at killing MiG21 BiS ... and ffs go ahead and try flying the thing, harrier is unmaneuverable boat that gets outturned by VAUTOUR ... its obvious you never even tried the plane even in testflight so please, do so and then come back ...
@starrynights467
3 жыл бұрын
@@Asghaad Nice try trying to defend the most broken aircraft in warthunders history. It sure as fuck DOES climb like a rocket even on max fuel. It can out climb nearly EVERYTHING at ANY tier. you can catch nearly ANYTHING in a dive and migs will not always be fast. You can outrun a mig 15 in a solid 5 seconds too. And how does turning matter in a plane that has missiles that can fire 90 fucking degrees from its forward view to hit ANYTHING. SRAAMs are not dodge able at the range they are fired.
@Asghaad
3 жыл бұрын
@@starrynights467 1. it doesnt climb vertical while accelerating ... which it should at cca 1.2 T/W ratio it should have with the fuel and missiles 2. it cant outclimb MiG21 F-13 ... or Lightning, or T-2 ... hell MiG19 climbs just as well... now guess what it means when it faces Phantoms and Mig21 SMT/ BiS ... 3. yes you can outaccelerate a plane 1 BR lower than you ... guess what so do the planes 1 BR above you outaccelerates the Harrier 4. turning matters because you dont have unlimited amount of missiles, which oh so LOVE flares so much that anything that has flares is basically immune to them AND they fly whopping 3 seconds before self destructing ... meaning you DONT outturn them, you OUTRUN THEM. secondly turning badly means that even MiG or Saber can turn INTO you before you get into position and even if you do get a lock at that angle even SRAAM will miss. yes they ARE dodgeable, you just have to start turning BEFORE the Harrier gets into the range ... if you give him clear shot on your exhaust then yes its impossible to dodge. lastly turning matters because your guns are next to useless if you cant ... and dodging missiles is kinda important too in plane that has no flares ... guess what when you get R-60 / AIM9j/Magic1 sent your way, you CANT DODGE those either ... and unlike SRAAMs you cant outrun them ...
@OumuamuaOumuamua
3 жыл бұрын
The f-84f should have been added 3-4 years ago
@butlerxiii4191
3 жыл бұрын
I know, right, I started working at a local aircraft museum around 3 years ago, we have an F-84F. One of my first assignments was cleaning it and while I was doing it, I was always wondering when they’d add it to War Thunder.
@GlobalgamingP
3 жыл бұрын
G91/3 annoying as hell in ground realistic, the moment you kill someone in Leo they spawn g91 and ruin the match
@johnschmidtz5337
3 жыл бұрын
I called them Reeeee Air force
@gavin4018
3 жыл бұрын
It's just the German version of someone using the FJ. Which ironically I don't see much anymore.
@nexx3351
3 жыл бұрын
Just like Americans in 4.3+
@crabbyjungle5670
3 жыл бұрын
I shot one down in my panther d. With the main gun
@kartingst
3 жыл бұрын
*Me:* _Gets my first jet_ "Oh boy! My first j-" *Also me:* _Gets absolutely destroyed by planes going faster than me not even 5 minutes into the game_
@joshuamcdonald5621
3 жыл бұрын
How the F2H-2 feels.
@Mucdaba
3 жыл бұрын
3:34 ASH I CANT HEAR YOU MATE BUT OTHER THAN THAT ITS A VERY GOOD VIDEO
@EyeKracker83
3 жыл бұрын
WHAT DID YOU SAY? ITS ALMOST LIKE THE LA 200 IS TRYING TO DROWN OUT CRITICISM WITH THE JET EQUIVALENT OF "LA LA LA LA LA LA I CANT HEAR YOU!"
@Eman-720
3 жыл бұрын
As someone who flying bombers, the Do335 B2, as people can just buy it and club bombers from 2k plus away. And it seems to get basically the same altitude spawn.
@FetaCheese717
3 жыл бұрын
It makes me sad that Sweden is so expensive to play. I’d like to play more top tier Sweden if their vehicles didn’t cost your soul plus an arm and a leg.
@agentleefy4506
3 жыл бұрын
Yea I'm currently grinding the swedish tech tree but the repair cost is so expensive and makes me want to give up on it
@m1a1abrams3
3 жыл бұрын
like the 2 new 105s. they over 20k and they dont even got aim9js
@FetaCheese717
3 жыл бұрын
@@m1a1abrams3 first of all, that low of Br they don’t need aim9j’s. The tech tree 105 is alright, I wish it could have both gun pods and missiles. The premium is PTW and disgusts me. Instead of making their repair cost the equivalent of college tuition they could have taken away the air spawn, that would have balanced them out.
@traskclips5294
3 жыл бұрын
The fact that any of you play Sweden makes me sad for you
@Glockad79
3 жыл бұрын
Yep... Im Swedish and one of the reason i stayed in WT after all the years was knowing the swedes would come into the game. Now i have them all, Except the last 105 (and the prem one, and a few tanks becous the S-tank is broken) and what now? I cant play it... Why? im one of those guys ash talks about in another vid (atleast i think it was him). The Oldies who plays 40min a day. Needing to be extremly good to earn a income in the swedish tech tree makes it impossible to play. This is realy an issue like the grinding system wasnt bad enough...
@generalnat5359
3 жыл бұрын
My most hatted aircraft is the JU 288 C They move at what feels like 900 km per hour, they have fantastic defensive armament, and they are everywhere at 6.0
@novkorova2774
3 жыл бұрын
Number 1: All jets Number 2: All planes with atgm
@novkorova2774
3 жыл бұрын
@@daryrizki5236 The plane is fine, the engine glued on top isn't.
@Abi-fo7gh
3 жыл бұрын
@@daryrizki5236 i think that the plane underperforming is one reason to hate it
@KM-iw2qv
3 жыл бұрын
@@daryrizki5236 plus the he-162 is annoying in air br under 5.0 and 6.0 br match
@jacoproita9010
3 жыл бұрын
sk60: costs 27k repair cost g56: laughs in 35k
@BruhMomentPatrick
3 жыл бұрын
wasn't it 55k?
@jacoproita9010
3 жыл бұрын
@@BruhMomentPatrick that is the b29
@Yeeter_Inbound
3 жыл бұрын
I have the plane and I play it once a month because of the repair cost. I haven't even spaded it yet. I do enjoy playing it but it's too much to crash or die in. Not worth it.
@mati-yr1ym
3 жыл бұрын
@@jacoproita9010 G56 had 55k repair cost, but they changed it.
@quartzlandaker5664
3 жыл бұрын
B-29 *cries in 55+k repair*
@TubularAnde
3 жыл бұрын
Same opinion on the GR1 tbh, I got it to help grind out top-tier jets (helps that it's an iconic aircraft) but I've mostly fallen back to using the swift again. Every SRAAM kill feels cheap, unearned. I don't know historically if it ever used sidewinders but I'd be in favour of ditching the SRAAMs to take it back down to 9.3
@GingahJ
3 жыл бұрын
Based off of tank video 3: AAA 2: Space 1: Trees
@Jan_372
3 жыл бұрын
_Base AAA be like_
@Knot_Sean
3 жыл бұрын
My most hated aircraft? Harriers: I know what I need to do now to stay away from them but it’s nearly impossible to get away from them even in supersonic aircraft. German P-47 (old): When it had the same airspawn as the American ones and got to just bounce on fighters cause it was easy to get. Ka-50’s for obvious reasons. Re. 2005 Its a very good aircraft that is basically a jack of all trades with insanely great armament. I just hate going against it. Can’t think of much more.
@pooch7245
3 жыл бұрын
Repair costs never make any sense, isn’t the IL-28Sh repair cost literally like half of what the normal IL-28 is?
@jojomaster7675
3 жыл бұрын
The only thing repair costs make sense to is gaijin's wallet.
@michaelbraun74
3 жыл бұрын
Just saying with the hairier if they want they could make it realistic with the fuel because the hairier has a serious flaw that when it takes off vertically it actually uses majority of its fuel and usually has to go to a tanker right away same as the yak38.
@Marxman-bi5yu
3 жыл бұрын
"The Harrier is the definition of power creep" Nah nah nah dude the word your looking for is "Pay to Win", same shit with the SAAB, same shit with the PG-02, Ka-50 and dozens of other premium vehicles.
@phantomaviator1318
3 жыл бұрын
PG-02 is meh It fights destroyers that it can't event get close enough to shred. It's fine.
@Marxman-bi5yu
3 жыл бұрын
@@phantomaviator1318 Then either they nerfed it into something actually reasonable, the techtree split made it remotely balanced or you don't know shit, because that thing pretty much single handedly killed naval upon it's release
@phantomaviator1318
3 жыл бұрын
@@Marxman-bi5yu It did? Seriously? I have it and whenever I play it I get yeeted by destroyers
@Marxman-bi5yu
3 жыл бұрын
@@phantomaviator1318 It used to rape destroyers, literally just ran circles around them and hosed them with 20mm minigun. And before the spit any time you faced that you were probably in something much smaller and it would kill you the second you saw it. It's like what the Freccia is now.
@redhed5309
3 жыл бұрын
I bought the harrier because I didn't start on that part of the tree , not because I wanted a "pay to win" jet most fun aircraft other than the hunters and lightning I've ever flown in the game
@ryanweintraub9448
3 жыл бұрын
I miss the glory days of F-86 vs MiG-17 or early F-100 vs MiG-19
@desertfalcon1539
3 жыл бұрын
I arrived too late for this...
@cyrus8586
3 жыл бұрын
Most hated right now is the F-82E. I play a lot of German bombers to help grind through to jets and the F-82 always, without fail, flies out of nowhere and one taps me
@aussieairconditioner8023
3 жыл бұрын
It sucks that the harrier is so op and hated amongst the community... It's my favourite aircraft irl and sucks that it's so broken in war thunder, to the point that it feels dirty to play.
@44kizza44
2 жыл бұрын
GR1 was a joke at 9.7 and even more so at 9.3, but now at 10.0 it's ok. It could probably use another upping to 10.3 just to stop it coming against 9.0, but most things it now fights have fairly simple ways of defending against it. IDK why the GR1 has SRAAMs though im fairly sure i read only the hunter f6 was fitted with them for a test fire... Laughable the f6 is higher br than the harrier though.
@soman5348
3 жыл бұрын
Ki 200 has a 24k repair cost. It's absolutely unbearable as it always crashes upon landing, meaning you almost always have to pay for it.
@frailvictorianchild
3 жыл бұрын
Ash, as an SK60B player with it spaded, I would like to say that it is 31k for me and I have given up on the plane completely now Literal pain Edit: Also the A32 as you said, literally a brick with wings
@macmillan6911
3 жыл бұрын
The A32 is going to lead to the AJ37 however, that's probably going to get Mavericks, and if not it'll get the Rb05a instead. It's going to lead somewhere once the Viggen gets added
@noahhuls
3 жыл бұрын
I think the viggen is going to rb05s first and mavricks later
@Mini1124
3 жыл бұрын
My top 5 most hated aircraft are as follows 1) Harrier Gr. 1 2) Harrier Gr. 3 3) Harrier AV-8A 4) Harrier AV-8C 5) Every single 8.7 jet because they face much faster opponents with SRAAMs and AIM-9G’s
@connorstair3348
3 жыл бұрын
f89d is one of my most hated planes
@sparviero142
3 жыл бұрын
If you want to hate the P108A try it in his intended role: anti ship attack aircraft, If the AA does not nuke you from 10 miles away the 102mm shel do nothing to the ship. and you have only 1 attack run becouse then the AA will kill you for sure.
@baruchratz512
3 жыл бұрын
Most hated aircraft: 5: m.s.405/06/10 They are bad at everything 4: P51s I know that they are amazing, I just can't understand how to fly them 3: bv238 Unkillable 2: vtol planes Missiles 1: saab 105 premium Power creep, missiles
@garrykambimbi
3 жыл бұрын
>be Ash >see buccaneer >i will use it for something it was definitely not designed for and hate this jet for no other reason at all despite it having amazing ground attack loadouts
@primastanislaus9184
3 жыл бұрын
All of my top 5 my hated aircraft are in the Swedish tech tree, some cause stupid flight model and some cause its no fun to fight against.
@whyno713
3 жыл бұрын
The P.108A needs much more forgiving splash damage in both AP and HE. The 105mm cannon is hard enough to bring on target, and that gets doubly frustrating when you only get a hit instead of a destroyed on seemingly good shots.
@leonhassenrik3370
3 жыл бұрын
My most hated jets of 2020: 1: Harrier GR.1 2: Harrier GR.1 3: Harrier GR.1 4: Harrier GR.1 5: Harrier GR 1
@marcuspinnock1383
3 жыл бұрын
I wish that naval aircraft weren't so neglected, ive been wishing for the crusader and a proper naval F-4 phantom with all those good bells and whistles. Even it we got the most simple planes we need more interesting aircraft including the b-66 which would be a cool addition to the game
@beaverchicken
3 жыл бұрын
Here's my list: -Anything American -Anything German -Anything Russian -Anything British -Anything Japanese -Anything Chinese -Anything Italian -Anything French -Any vehicle the enemy was using when they killed me -Absolutely any plane/tank that's not Swedish
@ThatGuysProject
3 жыл бұрын
I love the hunter f6, people just dont know how to keep distance and tunnel vision on other aircraft, harrier is just hunter with moar powa baby
@Asghaad
3 жыл бұрын
and way less energy retention or maneuverability
@Abi-fo7gh
3 жыл бұрын
@@Asghaad and way more acceleration
@Asghaad
3 жыл бұрын
@@Abi-fo7gh thats kinda packed in that "moar powa" ... xD
@paulvontarsus729
3 жыл бұрын
B-29. Now its 7.0 (!!!) and has a nice repair cost as well.
@davidty2006
3 жыл бұрын
the B29 for what i could see is like any other bomber. Terrible and overpriced. Only bomber i actually like is the NC 223.3
@paulvontarsus729
3 жыл бұрын
@@davidty2006 The BR is extra bad on this one.
@steel8675
3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how you share footage of you dying in a air battle. Almost all the KZitem I watch post footage of them winning all of the time. As a moderate player I die a lot and lose a lot of games (which I am still working on) It is encouraging to see a professional have some mistakes rather than be perfect. Thank you!
@tacosauce9409
3 жыл бұрын
I like how it’s 2020 but released dec 21 ranting about brand new vehicles
@thatpolishhotdog
3 жыл бұрын
Im grinding for the harrier gr3, and apparently it has a 30k repair when it's spaded. Gaijin's business model is just disappointing.
@Knot_Sean
3 жыл бұрын
Lol and the missiles on the GR.3 are worse than the missiles you get on the GR.1
@thatpolishhotdog
3 жыл бұрын
@@Knot_Sean IKR. Ridiculous how the GR3's local economy is being based on ANOTHER plane. If they gave the GR3 SRAAMS, I would even consider playing it at a 40k repair cost, but the Aim-9G's seem underwhelming
@benfennell6842
3 жыл бұрын
@@thatpolishhotdog they should just give it aim9Ls and put it at 11.0 to face mirage like it did in real life.
@hanro7430
3 жыл бұрын
I say their business model is perfect. They get you to buy SL. That's a good business model. That doesn't mean its good for the consumer
@tazzie165
3 жыл бұрын
What f'ing shits me is I was 20k RP away from getting the MD452IIC. Now I need the bloody F84F. I don't bloody want it, I have the prior version, it's in the wrong bloody tree and now i need to f'ing research and buy it first which is difficult in how broken the economy is in this game.
@jdreyes3745
3 жыл бұрын
Same goes for me with the A-7D coming before the AV-8C, rather than after, and I was planning to use the latter to grind the former...
@Liverpool2102MHB
3 жыл бұрын
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@JustAnotherRandomPersonOnline
3 жыл бұрын
The thing about the P.108A serie 2 is that if you get even halfway decent with that 102 mm cannon, you're pretty much set to use any other cannon CAS aircraft IMO.
@mistapeper1283
3 жыл бұрын
i now cant play my, sabre at 9.3 RB AB is only option now
@drancon101
3 жыл бұрын
They need to get rid of rep cost, or stop using rep cost as a balancing tool. There are so many vehicles I want to use, that I don't use just because of rep cost. I don't want to get bankrupted by flying out or driving out a cool or ineffective vehicle and get little to nothing to counter the rep cost
@paltryshelf816
3 жыл бұрын
The Sk60 was a major problem for a lot of players like me, a lot of people spammed sk60 and Farm. I had the MiG 9 back then, the Sk60 had a low repair cost until the Sk60 got a big RP Nerf, it did get a SL gain, that reduce the population of Sk60 users
@Abi-fo7gh
3 жыл бұрын
5: G.56 because repair cost 4: A-7D because 30mm gunpods + AIM-9J 3: P.108A serie 2 because it's impossible to do anything useful in it + you can't shoot above and in front of you with the turrets 2: literally any harrier because those things CANNOT turn, but also because SRAAMs on the GR.1 1: B18B because it can space climb above half the fighters at its tier, and it's OP in arcade because you don't have to land to get more bombs, so you can just keep climbing
@spacialsonic7779
3 жыл бұрын
My most top 10 Hated general vehicule in war thunder: 10: Kv 220 (ratio) 9: Panther II (Cursed) 8: Battleships (ratio) 7: Me 264 (performing) 6: Roland 1 (cursed) 5: G 91 R/3 (cursed) 4: Phantoms (ratio) 3: R3 T20 FA-HS (undertier) 2: Vikhr Ka's (overperforming) 1: Harrier's (overperforming ab/rb) Bonus for gazelles mistral (cursed), Matilda (bug), H34 (overtier), Recoiless guns (overkill), Reserve russian bias (overperforming)
They could have just given the premium Harrier aim 9s, SRAAMs never even entered service.
@jonesso11
3 жыл бұрын
in general balance by repair cost is a terrible system, it actively says "don't play this vehicle" because good players have given the vehicle good stats, this discourages the average joe from picking up the vehicle and every giving the full side of the player base to the stats thus solidifying only good players will play this bringing the vehicle down a spiral of doom, so the repair costs will never decrease because no bad player can afford to use it
@Real_Claudy_Focan
3 жыл бұрын
In Air to Air combat ? None... In GFRB ? The G91R3 because you can't escape its Nords !
@ThsGuy-kb6pn
3 жыл бұрын
anyone else notice the Rusky c47 with no landing gear at 7:11 ?
@Cookie_RiskItForABiscuit
3 жыл бұрын
I was quite surprised to see La-200 in this list, in my opinion it's a very good aircraft. It has a great climbing rate (47m/s) for his BR so you can catch jet bombers at the start of the game and the only things that can out climb you are A-4B but they are 8.7 so most of the time you have more speed (or energy) than everyone else.
@Cactus_-kq5rc
3 жыл бұрын
Yak-23, which has 2x 23mm commons with 180 rounds total, and nothing else other than acceleration, costs 30k silver lions to repair when spaded
@FunBotan
3 жыл бұрын
I personally love the saber dog, primarily for its guns
@Krypton2658
3 жыл бұрын
I was just getting the hang of Air RB when they added Harriers to the game. Now, I never play anything above 5.7BR in that gamemode.
@kerotomas1
3 жыл бұрын
My most hated is probably mid tier swedish planes. I mainly play Air Arcade where the J22, A21/J21 are the most overpowered things ever and always always finish at 1st in every single match they are literal oneshot machines and are quite nimble.
@thepulle4722
3 жыл бұрын
> Video features the British premium Harrier > Thumbnail shows the American Harrier Nice attention to detail there mate
@fazsum41
3 жыл бұрын
From top to bottom starting with my most hateded Ju288c MiG-21 currently thanks to spam Me262A 50mm Me264 Arado 234 just because it gets a stupidly low BR for a jet bomber that could not be cought by any ww2 aircraft and has a powerful bomb load
@jdreyes3745
3 жыл бұрын
1. Harrier GR.1 (should be obvious) 2. MiG-15/17 + Shenyang F-5 (bastards always end up above anyone without an afterburner or airspawn...and are teammates with the above) 3. Yak-38s (similar reasons as above) 4. Spitfire Mk XVI (really bad speed bleed + toasty low alt engine) 5. Ki-84 Hayate (not so good turn and feels underpowered compared to the competition)
@matthewjohnson2428
3 жыл бұрын
F-86-A5. It's an awesome plane, but it's 8.7, meaning it faces Harriers, Hunters, SU-7s, Mig 17s, Mig 21s, and Lightnings with regularity whilst also not having any seal clubbers on its side. F-104A. As my highest rated jet, I do have it nearly spaded, but here's the problem... You either get uptiered to 10.7 where the Mig-21 SMT and Mig-21bis are faster on the deck, comparable at altitude, climb just as well, massively out turn you at any speed, out accelerate you, have more missiles, and better missiles. Or, in the rare event you get a downteir, Harriers SRAAM your whole team within the first few minutes and you're left in a 7v1 or 8v1 situation when the only thing you have is speed and they just need to get one lucky SRAAM lock as you blast through the pack. Also, how is something that was supposed to be the premier soviet bomber interceptor of NATO only get two Aim9Bs at top tier? You have no usable missiles and since everyone is low after the first three minutes of the fight, you have to try to get close to people on the deck where your performance suffers to get gun kills in a plane that can't turn and is only faster than other stuff at 30,000ft. Also, no flares and no RWR, your only defense against missiles is to pitch up and throw a turn in. Works fine unless it's a Mig-21 on your tail or if they only fire one missile. After two, you've bled too much speed and have lost your only advantage. If it's a Mig-21 though, after one turn, they're usually catching you. Both of the problems I have with these planes would be solved in one simple way. Make a 12.0 BR system. Preferably limit the BR spread from 1.0 to 0.7 as well. The current system works fine for props, but there is too much in the lines of performance differences and inability to counter jets at certain BRs that they need to be spread out more and only fight jets similar to them. How is a team of non-after burning, subsonic, non-missle equipped F-86s going to beat planes 20 years newer than it? Especially after the .50cal nerf. It means you barely ever get kills and the win rate is atrocious! Sure your repair cost is like 10k SL on both the jets I talked about, but even if you get a kill every match, you're lucky to break even because you never get the reward for winning.
@Zman2598
3 жыл бұрын
Surprised to see the La-200 on the list. I find it to be one of the best jets in the game tier for tier. The only time it suffers is when it gets a massive uptier. In most matchups the climb rate and energy retention allow you to force the enemy team to the deck while you dive on them. The guns are less than ideal but decent once you get the hang of them. It also just got moved down to 7.7 and is basically peerless in performance now.
@Jan_372
3 жыл бұрын
Time for me to get used to AIM-9Bs in the Premium G.91 R4. Though the guns are epic as you finally have a bit more ammo than thd regular one.
@memeteam4497
3 жыл бұрын
I largely agree with you except on the a32. The a32 is lack luster, yes I agree with that, but I hate the j32 so much more because gaijin threw it to the wolves a couple updates ago by putting it at 10.0 and the repair cost at like 25k+. It’s expensive and you get clubbed constantly. Used to be fun at 9.7 with the br hard cap fighting in its own weight class...now 1/10 won’t fly again.
@christianoboyle8104
3 жыл бұрын
Its a good vid to come back 2 the longer you play war thunder bc the more you play the more your feelings change on certain aircraft
@bt_the_yank6234
3 жыл бұрын
We need different brs for air and ground. Compression in air is far far worse. Increase air br to 11.7 or 12.0 and maybe increase ground to 11.0
@maddnooselad1848
3 жыл бұрын
The f86k is probably one of my favorites tho ;-; I just cant get behind the 32k rep cost
@f4fphantomii468
3 жыл бұрын
The Pasta-cannon is clearly meant for naval combat. It is to be launched from a airfield, go somewhere far away where the enemy fleet is, pew pew, and go back. It's not a ground attacker. It's a naval attack craft. And ts good in naval rb.
@Swigester
3 жыл бұрын
the f-11 is a fun jet and to me its well balanced. its fast but sluggish, has 4 aam but no cannon ammo, and at 9.0-9.3 its competitive. they only "nerfed" it with a repair cost because too many people had it.... now look at the harrier... they made it a premium!
@savageazn69
3 жыл бұрын
My most hated plane is actually one of the best in the game, the CL13B Mk.6, just because of the stupid repair cost. I love the CL13A and the F-86K, but I don't have the CL13B spaded because of the unreal repair cost of 38k spaded or something like that. And not to mention the br is a little high at 9.7.
@first_lt_audie_murphy4149
3 жыл бұрын
top 5 most hated vehicles 1. Lightning F6 (yes im still holding that grudge) 2. Hunter FGA 9 3. Harrier GR.1 4. F-86F-35 5. F-89D
@nataltadpole7536
3 жыл бұрын
You should try Sim battles Ash
@jasonhill7698
3 жыл бұрын
both variants of the F-4F phantom. They get 9Js, Germany never bought them Sagittario A2D skyshark F-5A MiG-17AS
@monolitwoods
3 жыл бұрын
My hated 5: Harrier Gr1 F-89D Ju 288C German Sea Hawk Tu-4( repair cost wise)
@Taeschno_Flo
3 жыл бұрын
I hate being stock, but well, Spacefires, the sweidish gladiator and the american premium jet with the aa missiles are my most hated aircraft
@martijn9568
3 жыл бұрын
7:02 Ash, how did you get an Lisunov Li-2 in your hangar?? As for most hated aircraft: -Ju-288C -J6K, it is the definition of a UFO, together with the A7M for Japan. -Me-264, another UFO. Gaijin first added it with control compression. Players complained. Small patch later, boom, compression gone. Something tells me that is a bit suspicious. -The entire Swedish tech tree with those broken 13,2 mm machine guns. -The entire jet meta, due to F-89Ds, Harriers, probably the A7D and probably those Swedish attackers with their airspawn on these shoebox-sized maps. -Any fighter with an airspawn that doesn't deserve it, things like Ta 152s, FW 190 A 8s and P-38s -Any other UFO that's still in the game (CW-21 and the Ki-27)
@Knot_Sean
3 жыл бұрын
The Ju-288 recieved a huge nerf and while its still very playable I don’t see why its a hated aircraft. Sure there are the people who play the thing like a damn heavy fighter but those are people who’re already really good at the game.. P-38’s are all Interceptor so they deserve these spawns. Same goes for the Ta 152. Whats wrong with the A-7D its literally the slowest 9.3 jet in the game and its turning is worse. The 13.2mm’s are just longer bullets than .50’s or the German 131 thats why the preform well. Everything else you say however I completely agree with.
@Eman-720
3 жыл бұрын
@@Knot_Sean That and the Swedish guns fire HE rounds that were never used in anger and weren't a thing before 1945. Yet show up with post 1945 planes fighting against 1940's or earlier aircraft.
@Eman-720
3 жыл бұрын
Also if bomber play was not just getting seal clubbed by fighter jockets you wouldn't see as many orbiting bombers. In sim I'll level out at about 5000 as thats enough to avoid AAA, and I'm not at as much risk of being nuked by a fighter from over 1km away.
@addam6666
3 жыл бұрын
F-11, P-63, F-86, G.91 and ofc Harrier GR.1 are my most hated aircraft
@bfaproductions7121
3 жыл бұрын
My top 5 hated planes are the Harrier Gr.1 F-104A Ju-288 Me-264 And allied heavy bombers since a .50 cal doesn't seem to help me against German planes. Especially since even when crew skills are maxed out the tracking distance isn't even 700 meters let alone firing distance
@Yeeter_Inbound
3 жыл бұрын
I won a talisman for the P108 from a battle trophy. What a joke.
@B52Stratofortress1
3 жыл бұрын
I'm a bomber main. I can't dogfight worth a damn. I recently unlocked the Su-7B hoping to hit ground targets and bases with it as was historical for the airframe. All it seems to be good for is being food for missiles. I wish the game had more options for those wishing to play the ground attack aircraft.
@GiulioImparato
3 жыл бұрын
no repair cost should be over 8 thousand SL .
@robertperry6048
3 жыл бұрын
The War Thunder people need to increase the rewards for ground attack aircraft destroying ground targets and bases ! Why are they forcing Attack aircraft to pretend to be Fighters ? Make the rewards for doing it’s job worth playing it.
@pancake4061
3 жыл бұрын
When a vehicle is so overpowered that people start to team kill them just for existing, it's a little bit past 'borderline' broken.
@Knot_Sean
3 жыл бұрын
*pushes R3 into lake only to see it float* “WHAT THE FUCK”
@MightyCanadian
3 жыл бұрын
Heh, Ironic, half of your list is my list. Good video though, looking forward to more content. Oh! And what's the song for your outro?
@Ash007YT
3 жыл бұрын
Don't recall sorry it is just named Outro song in editing software.
@jackrogers3528
3 жыл бұрын
Whilst watching I got sniped by an sram I wanna Kms
@sniper321fire
3 жыл бұрын
SK60 is OP so good it went up TBH when it was lower repair they could kill entire teams almost
@chost-059
3 жыл бұрын
My top 5 in random order : All spitfires : British Harriers :Mig-9's :F4u7
@phantomaviator1318
3 жыл бұрын
On the other hand, my favorite plane overall is the P-51H She's such a beautiful plane, and so calming to just fly around ij
@KhaoticAntics
3 жыл бұрын
Hated aircraft? EVERY SINGLE PLANE IN THE LINE OF THE BF109 THE FW 190 AND THE TA OR MORE LIKLELY EVERY SINGLE GERMAN FIGHTER.
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