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@TheCopiumClinic
Ай бұрын
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@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
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@Touchin-Grass
Ай бұрын
I have 0 expectations but 100% excitement to test!
@TheRealTrucido
Ай бұрын
Same boat. Cant wait to test and give feedback and get a feel for the game in its current state.
@AszkalonOfVerra
Ай бұрын
I have like +10% Expectations that i might see something *VERY* cool in the Testing Phases - but i am 90% sure it is all just veeeryyy unfinished still and we will need to test the everliving Hell out of Verra for many Months. 😉
@achawnr.p.g.raccoonprinceg4997
Ай бұрын
I’d be more critical if it wasn’t for a few factors. The progress they made in the last year has put some of fears to rest. Especially with the server meshing technology. They also hired a bunch of people recently. I’m sure at one point Steven would have been able to self fund the project but it’s gotten much bigger now. Lastly. Have you seen these people when they play D&D? It’s really hard for me to imagine these dorks being scammers lol. Now if we start seeing these means of monetization more frequently coming up to beta and realease then maybe I’ll be more worried. For now I’ll keep faith!
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@achawnr.p.g.raccoonprinceg4997 never in history has anyone ever called someone a dork in their defense until just now and I love it
@HardHeavySTYLE
Ай бұрын
After all that has been demonstrated, only those people who do not understand anything about game development can call them scammers. They looked like "scammers" during A1, but now I can't turn my tongue to say it.
@achawnr.p.g.raccoonprinceg4997
Ай бұрын
@@HardHeavySTYLE I use to rail hard against this game since 2015. Up til a couple years ago. Especially after playing New World. Omg come on Steven! Don’t let me down!
@TheToledoTrumpton
Ай бұрын
I don't think this fit into the category of monetization. The amount of money they made on these keys won't even keep Intrepid running for one month. The price of the keys was to keep the sightseers out. And the only people complaining were the sightseers. If you are a genuine tester, and have the time, knowledge and skills to be an asset during testing, $100 is nothing on a game with no box price. Back in the day (1990s), it cost $4,500 to enter the qualifying tournament (known as Q-school) for the PGA tour. That wasn't to make money, that was designed to keep out anyone who was just coming for a holiday and a chance to say, "I was there". This was the same deal. So for me the "Drama" was totally manufactured, childish and from the kind of children that need to hear "No" a lot more often, because the world is changing (it always does) and if you don't change with it you are going to get left behind.
@achawnr.p.g.raccoonprinceg4997
Ай бұрын
@@TheToledoTrumpton well put!
@vexillian
Ай бұрын
I never felt like the original pricing was bad. I compared it to their subscription structure. You do get your value's worth of playtime if you start in any of the phases. I'd be writing a script for a whole video going over it all if I had to cover every part of the argument. Only thing that I felt was bad was not having Beta access, but they fixed that immediately. $100+ for that many months of a subscription based game even in incompletion is not a relatively bad value.
@TheRewindSession
Ай бұрын
agreed. i mean if they did it based of subscription. for sure everyone will buy the key. and i think that way entrepid will actually make way more money than the 120 dollars per key all the way to beta 2. so if they did it based off subs. 120 is only worth 8 months of game time. if this alpha will last up to 18 months plus beta 1 and beta 2 so maybe around 3 to 4 years. they would make so much money if they just based it off subs and i bet people wont even complain about it.
@HardHeavySTYLE
Ай бұрын
Interesting statistics: Drama is always supported by those people who never buy any "keys", not cheap or expensive.
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@HardHeavySTYLE surely this is a coincidence 😏
@dimitreus99
Ай бұрын
Now is the time, more than ever, to be critical of Intrepid. But we have to be respectful of course. One thing we shouldnt tolerate is any blatant disrespect fie the developers. Most of us have no idea how hard game dev is, myself included, so ill never fault them for trying and failing at something. But we should be critical when it makes sense to, like with communication and changes of plans, etc.
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@dimitreus99 👏 THIS
@CestPasFaux-kt9zq
Ай бұрын
White knight detected
@dimitreus99
Ай бұрын
@@CestPasFaux-kt9zq how the fuck is that white knight you fcking re tard
@jps30
Ай бұрын
I still think the No Beta access was a misspeak. The added stuff was added to make up for it.
@philwaugh9095
Ай бұрын
Just like all the doomium clowns in Narcland, I bought my Phase1 keys and will be there in the queue on Day 1. So they huff and puff and cry their houses down, we laugh at them and we'll all be in Verra on Nov 8. I don't sweat cultists calling other people cultists 😆
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@philwaugh9095 I wonder how big of a population difference Oct 25th playtest will be compared to November 8th 👀 🤔
@AszkalonOfVerra
Ай бұрын
I am rather a PRO-Verra Cultist, than a typical Whiner-Doomsayer who wallows in Defeatism like it's his own sh ... ... ...
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@AszkalonOfVerra sweet. We must keep balance in the essence
@konkats-tg7pf
Ай бұрын
take their money Steven! take their money! alpha2 alpha3 beta 1 beta2 gamma1 gamma2 EA you can milk 1k from each one! yes
@TheRewindSession
Ай бұрын
People doesnt understand the 120 dollar price is so worth it. imagine if entripid actually made it 15 dollars instead a month for alpha all the way to beta 2 for 4 years. for sure people with bird brain will jump and buy it. all they see is the 120 but they ignore everything what they are getting for that 120.
@ShonenVx
Ай бұрын
What will be this months stream about ?
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@ShonenVx I put it briefly on screen there at the end but essentially it’s the dragon firebrand and a new poi 👀 sounds exciting
@af6756
Ай бұрын
Dude, at this point, just admit you are part of the same lot as the developers instead of trying to maintain a neutral stance. No one but folk obsessed with Intrepid and their typical indie mmo greed will actually enjoy this kind of content.
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@af6756 what are you looking forward to about ashes of creation?
@antondovydaitis2261
Ай бұрын
Hey, Nyce! Now you guys know what it feels like to be "Pantheon Patient."
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@antondovydaitis2261 indeed lol
@sticqeno288
Ай бұрын
Solid video. I think if we continue to move on as we have before, everything will be fine.
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
big facts
@boredfangerrude8759
Ай бұрын
I was initially excited but when I looked into it more, I lost most of my interest. Between the kickstarter and backer rewards to the design being too oldschool, I can't see this becoming one of the top 10 games.
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@boredfangerrude8759 that’s fair imo. I imagine it not being for everyone, but I think it will be a top mmo if it sticks to it’s vision hopefully
@larsbaer3508
Ай бұрын
To praise IS for rightfully rewarding backerz to get their hands on the Game early totally misses the Mark too .... 2 weekends ? 2 freaking weekends ????????????? ..... This is humiliating .... I could make a Montage of Steven saying "risk vs reward" 100 Times in different Interviews and AMA and Livestreams .... He wants to Honor risk with reward ... In this Game AS a core principle .... What reward do i get to risk my Money and fundig this Pipedream of a Game ? ... Waiting and hoping for multiple years spending more upfront than i ever did for a Game .... I get 2 freaking weekends ??? Thats a Punch in the gut ... And if there will BE Queues even though He "needs more testers" ... This will BE the finishing move for me as a Person who trusted him ... Others Game have tierd Access too and If you can Play a few days earlier ... Thats Like 20 bucks or something in Most other Games .... That IS the total opposit of honoring my risk taking ... That IS kickin me as i am down ...
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@larsbaer3508 I’m with ya in the sense that I thought a2 sales wouldn’t go on sale for a little while until a2 started . Minimal 1-2 months despite them saying it’s a possibility. It’s easy for us to feel entitled as earlier backers and in some sense rightfully so, but at least more people can play I guess. I’ll be honest. If this purchase option was available when I was buying my pack, I totally would’ve went with these current bundles I think. I think no matter the decision they made, there was going to be a huge portion of the population upset
@HardHeavySTYLE
Ай бұрын
Dude, but this is not a release. This is A TEST. A week or 2 weeks of "early access" on the release for those who supported the project, this will mean many times more than everything you are talking about. People will carry mountains of gold to get into the game a few days earlier, as it is now happening in EU Throne And Liberty, in a rather average and boring game.
@ItsVelo_
Ай бұрын
@HardHeavySTYLE IMO that makes it even more egregious... usually companies pay people to test their game, not the other way around 😅
@FrostyThundertrod
Ай бұрын
Well at this point i feel i wasted my money on my preorder pack i could have waited and got in for 120 instead of 350. I relly dont give a dam about the cosmetics
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
I personally would’ve rather have gotten these packs as well
@OgOssman
Ай бұрын
The problem is Simple. You cannot have crowd funding that goes on years. The only way it works is if it gets finished quickly. Why?? Because you end up milking your player base to the point where on launch day, you won't have new players buying in. And by time it releases the tech is out of date because of long development time.
@HardHeavySTYLE
Ай бұрын
It's good that everything you wrote has almost nothing to do with MMORPGs :)
@konkats-tg7pf
Ай бұрын
@@HardHeavySTYLE you think aoc will be released with ue5?
@Tilley53
Ай бұрын
What else would it be released with? Unless you are trying to allude to it releasing with UE6 because you feel it'll take that long to complete. It'll most definitely release with UE5, and it wouldn't make sense this late to switch to UE6 if it were to come out. They've already don't the switch from 4-5 and gained a lot of advantage and even longevity since 4 is about 11 years old or so, and it had a lot of short comings that UE5 fixed or optimized @konkats-tg7pf
@lmfnatural
Ай бұрын
Bought my phase 1 alpha 2 key yesterday stoke to test the game with yall on nov 8th
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@lmfnatural let’s goooo congratulations 👏 can’t wait to see everyone in game
@lmfnatural
Ай бұрын
@@Nyce-Gamingty mate cant wait to Test/game with you hopefully and the rest of the aoc community. Barb/rogue main here hands down haha
@prins424
Ай бұрын
Other people are willing to throw money at the development of an exciting game and become dedicated testers to its benefit? Pretty awesome from my perspective. Thanks guys!
@lawrencecarter5522
Ай бұрын
Can you stream pirate101 soon its coming out with new world its on steam
@aocbound
Ай бұрын
Patiently waiting
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@aocbound sooo close
@ShonenVx
Ай бұрын
What comes out first gta 6 or ashes
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@ShonenVx my money is on GTA 6
@dqddesoquaddub6216
Ай бұрын
What get me is people don’t understand server stability is apart of testing all you KZitemrs want to do is play the game if your not here to test please stay away we don’t need y’all
@ItsVelo_
Ай бұрын
>implying you can test server stability with the minority of players willing to pay 120 fucking dollars to be literal alpha testers Make sure you save some money for your copium canisters 😅
@larsbaer3508
Ай бұрын
In your Video you Claim that WE now know what to expect ...,.. BC the expectation have been Set by the roadmap ..... Steven broke our expectation that He Said time and time again .... So WE know as little as any other time ... Why believe hin this time .... When in this roadmap He redefines what Alpha 2 means ... Breaking previous expectations ... ITS baffeling how LITTLE critical people are imo
@Creyes_
Ай бұрын
It is true that Many deadlines have been missed, however it is wrong to assume that everything someone says is a lie just because they a 2 months off on almost all of their predictions. We are in pre testing right now and even though it was delayed we are still actively testing the game. Your logic is flawed in this way. I do understand the frustration though and have come to expect to add 2 months to any deadline set by intrepid. But that doesn't mean ashes is a scam. Just expect to add 2-4 months to any deadline.
@Momfasa
Ай бұрын
1 month of game time. Bravo! Only problem though, game will never be released.
@TheRewindSession
Ай бұрын
lol would youwant them to change the 120 dollars to 15 dollars a month of game time instead?
@trenttucker3254
Ай бұрын
Nice video and well said ❤
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@trenttucker3254 thanks!!!
@davidm.corbin4643
Ай бұрын
Giving Store Citizen 2.0 Vibes. Only good thing is that there isn't an NDA and the AoC Community can share their work and play(s) video/show it off.
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@davidm.corbin4643 yea starting Oct 25th we’ll be able to livestream everything non NDA so people can know exactly what they’re getting and see the current progress more will be clear then
@davidm.corbin4643
Ай бұрын
@@Nyce-Gaming SWEET. I'll be stopping by to watch
@HardHeavySTYLE
Ай бұрын
It seems to me that you are very unfamiliar with Star Citizen and AOC, if this approach is similar to SC for you. Very bad...
@davidm.corbin4643
Ай бұрын
@@HardHeavySTYLE let's see. Both games are Early Access selling ridiculous packages of stuff to get people to test the game for them. Seems pretty much the same. Both have spent a shit ton of time in development. Both communities of fans are rabid that their project is going to totally be a success and everything else is fake
@TheRewindSession
Ай бұрын
would you play the alpha game if it was 15 dollars instead a month instead of 120 for 18 months?
@dqddesoquaddub6216
Ай бұрын
I personally think those packs are to low prices out your money where ya mouth is
@bminturn
Ай бұрын
I'M ANGRY
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@bminturn storming intrepid hq! lol jk
@TheRealTrucido
Ай бұрын
WHAT ARE WE YELLING ABOUT
@bminturn
Ай бұрын
@@TheRealTrucido the travesty of it all.
@Nobody-dc8dp
Ай бұрын
Furries when?
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@Nobody-dc8dp phase 3 😏
@oobiies
Ай бұрын
All my homies hate the drama and cultists but what my homies hate ever more is being treated like children that better not know whats happening so they arent worried lmao Based video, Nyce! 👏
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@oobiies thanks 🫡
@AszkalonOfVerra
Ай бұрын
And ?
@GP-ur6if
Ай бұрын
Always complainers... anyways... The only complaint that seems warranted is the time it is taking but that is just how it seems to be these days. Like TL has cost a lot more, has been in development longer and it is crap... so if the Ashes devs deliver most of what they have talked about and the game runs reasonably, consider it a huge win, IMO. Hopefully up and coming AI tools help with MMO development, this genre really needs it.
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@GP-ur6if yes I’ve talked about this before. It’s so weird that T&L has taken a lot longer and never got any flack after many delays. Shows you which mmo is/was more anticipated
@larsbaer3508
Ай бұрын
ITS baffeling that so many inconsistencys are missed by content creators....or Just Put to the Side with a shrugg of shoulders.... ITS sad
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@larsbaer3508 I don’t think this is the case. There’s content creators discussing many inconsistencies and concerns. Far as me, I did so in this video and on stream live this week. There’s also stuff I can’t discuss as of yet but know your concerns are being heard 😄
@larsbaer3508
Ай бұрын
@@Nyce-Gaming Hope so xD
@larsbaer3508
Ай бұрын
Steven Said He needs more testers ..... Without even the attempt to Host Servers for the 100k+ backerz .... Thats Not only laughable ... Thats outright disturbing .... Feels Like a complete lie in my book
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@larsbaer3508 I like many expected a2 key sales to happen after already testing that 100k+ as well. They did give us a heads up in the December stream this could happen, but still an interesting decision regardless of server meshing capabilities
@larsbaer3508
Ай бұрын
@@Nyce-Gaming"interesting" 😂😂 I bet you wont say "interesting move" If someone steals your Wallet lol
@HardHeavySTYLE
Ай бұрын
@@larsbaer3508 Did Mr. Sandal steal your wallet?
@larsbaer3508
Ай бұрын
@@HardHeavySTYLE no i gave it to him willingly :D if he used the money wisely or not ... we will see soon lol
@af6756
Ай бұрын
This guy is obviously an Intrepid funded content creator who hasn't been critical of AOC at any point in time. Intrepid will screw people up just like other indie mmorpg scammers did and get away with it, mark my words.
@yomkooltv9105
Ай бұрын
Stop reading reddit and you wouldn't even know people were upset. Reddit is almost never a majority representation of a player base but everyone acts like it is
@Nyce-Gaming
Ай бұрын
@@yomkooltv9105 correct, Reddit probably isn’t. But maybe discord and forums right?
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