You talk all you want! I believe most of us are here for your commentary! Look at those subscriber numbers climb! Congratulations 🎉!
@katemyer1955
Ай бұрын
Yes! I’ve already read the book. I love commentary.
@TefiTheWaterGipsy
Ай бұрын
Exactly, I can listen to it on audible, but they don't have the Cheere Denise commentary version, that's why I'm here too.
@tracy464
Ай бұрын
Here for the commentary!!🎉❤
@sarahhunter1114
Ай бұрын
Agree.
@victoriachappell4098
Ай бұрын
I enjoy the commentary!
@kpax2066
Ай бұрын
I love everything about your content. The books you choose for us, the way you read them, your voice and especially your commentary about the book's content. Excellent work, Cheere! Keep doing what you do, and I will be here!
@SH29824
Ай бұрын
Beautifully stated and I agree 💯
@lisa260658
Ай бұрын
I second that comment
@pattirowe3864
Ай бұрын
You talk all you want! I believe most of us are here for your commentary! Look at those subscriber numbers climb! Congratulations 🎉! I thank you! ❤
@caroldurant5907
Ай бұрын
That's true! I ❤ your commentary! Your channel is awesome Cheere!🎉
@dianacooper-havlik4115
26 күн бұрын
I concur!
@VivLeigh
Ай бұрын
“ 24 pounds off of that tiny frame…..was she losing her organs?” I love all of your comments.‼️🤣🙌🏻🤣
@donnab.42
Ай бұрын
That line cracked me up too.
@lightningbug276
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@alomaalber6514
Ай бұрын
She was a perfect size 7 I know as I had one of her dresses from a consignment store. You are correct she did not have 24 pounds to lose. I am reading the recent biography now, it is very good. Glad to see this material here for free as well!
@annemarionware2289
Ай бұрын
Yes,you’re very funny. And the quips just keep coming unrehearsed.
@DA-ee1xi
Ай бұрын
Ari, like so many rich and powerful men, was a malignant narcissist/psychopath. Everything is there: Godlike opinion of himself, greedy, ruthless, contemptuous towards others, and sadistic.
@sabsmcdabs7139
Ай бұрын
She was drawn to them as many people are
@elizabethcurrie4920
Ай бұрын
Sounds like Jackie.
@elizabethhopkins7582
Ай бұрын
@@elizabethcurrie4920 not at all.
@elizabethcurrie4920
Ай бұрын
@@elizabethhopkins7582 read a few more biographies.
@ginapiroli6136
Ай бұрын
And devaluation of the primary fuel source (Jackie).
@catherineannelockman3805
Ай бұрын
Oh my goodness...we are certainly getting spoiled another chapter already...thank you so very much...❤
@Sandi-zh2wx
Ай бұрын
Ikr?! I didn't expect another so soon 👏👏👏
@kimmckinney6775
Ай бұрын
I love when you said “What are we as human beings but a map of weakness held together by the grace of God”. ❤🙏
@user-vs1tc3kj3z
Ай бұрын
Right? Is that an original quote? That is a golden nugget of truth.
@BlueInk912
Ай бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
@cheeredenise
Ай бұрын
It is 😊
@kcirtapelyk6060
Ай бұрын
This woman had a rollercoaster of a life. Despite her flaws, I’m kinda glad she was able to find some happiness and fulfillment in her life toward the end of her life.
@loreleicanyon9776
Ай бұрын
Like, even before I listen... your book "club" is great.
@queenredspecial
Ай бұрын
As a New Yorker, I will forever adore her for saving our Grand Central. My heart cries out for her now that we have no one to save what’s left of our city.
@alomaalber6514
Ай бұрын
I love that little Temple in the Metropolitan Museum of Art, that too was her doing, make my trip to your city so enjoyable a decade ago. Your news about NYC and also the UK gets to me here in rural VA. Cheers.
@GoggyL29
Ай бұрын
Ari is the optiomity of "money can't by you class"
@elineman7
Ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly- 👍
@silva7493
Ай бұрын
Ain't THAT the truth!!
@purpurina5663
Ай бұрын
I think you meant Epitome 😉 English is my second language so I may be wrong, but Optiomity didn't sound familiar so I googled it and it didn't appear
@lornarettig3215
Ай бұрын
Or height or a smaller waistline, apparently.
@alomaalber6514
Ай бұрын
There is a book that focuses on him, the feud with Robert and Jackie on the island it was interesting. He certainly had an interesting life as well. He was orphaned in a war and went to South American to be raised as a teen onward in a brothel, fact.
@Sunflowermeadows777
Ай бұрын
I like your "talking". 😊
@VickiMcKee-k1r
Ай бұрын
Definitely the best part!
@bradleybenoit5649
Ай бұрын
Your book reviews are the Best
@katherinechatham9032
Ай бұрын
I have never listened to anyone reading a book to me. You have completely upended my opinion. This is amazing!
@JRB-e1y
Ай бұрын
That therapist was WRONG to not disclose. Jackie was betrayed time and time again. PTSD is an understatement. I hope she is in heaven now living in full blown peace.
@LouisaWatt
Ай бұрын
I would’ve run a mile just from finding out she had someone committed. How could I feel safe to disclose deep dark feelings with that person?
@walkawaycat431
28 күн бұрын
Jackie knew about Maria Callas when she married Ari. Maria Callas is the one I feel truly sorry for in all this debacle.
@cocop5058
Ай бұрын
I once saw Jackie Onassis walking down Fifth Avenue. She was walking in the gutter, not on the sidewalk. That’s what made me look at her bc I thought it was weird for a well-dressed woman (trench coat, Hermes scarf tied on her head + sunglasses) to be walking in the street where she could get hit by a car. I made the mistake of saying to my husband, “Look, there’s Jackie Onassis.” Two tourists overheard me and they turned around to follow her. I’ve always felt bad about that.
@Jlk6532
Ай бұрын
I love that you have commentary! Your commentary often matches my inner voice, which is why I enjoy your content so much. I like that you’re honest and funny and you’re not trying to please anybody you’re just trying to enjoy what you’re doing if I wanted to listen to the book I would buy it on audible or get it from the library.
@marcopolo4576
Ай бұрын
One thing is very clear. These people had no fear of God in their hearts
@DAWNSURVIVOR2853
Ай бұрын
Don't let anyone put down your background wall. It is down to earth and honest just like you appear to be. You are doing good!
@lornarettig3215
Ай бұрын
I'm not sure I have any opinion on the background wall - who cares?!
@nncdrmr
Ай бұрын
Everything you is informative, well thought out, very interesting and since reading is difficullt at age 88! I am such a fan . When you insert your own opinion it is certainly welcome.Thank you for bringing pleasure to so many! I'm starting to forward to people who will certainly enjoy as much as I do.!!!
@dockaren
Ай бұрын
This book and your commentary are riveting! It's interesting that Jackie pushed so hard for a book exposing Thomas Jefferson's scandal while continuing to push the fiction of her own husband's legacy.
@StStStS
Ай бұрын
Perhaps she was hinting at what she felt couldn’t be said; or indeed paving the way…
@elizabethhopkins7582
Ай бұрын
After the Ted White interview she didn't continue to push anything about her and Jack. She never granted interviews. Never talked about herself. Had no interest in writing an autobiography. Cut anyone off who talked to the press about her life. JFK'S legacy as President didn't and still doesn't hinge on how many woman he boinked or how happy his marriage was. Most Presidents have had mistresses or side action including Franklin Roosevelt, Eisenhower, LBJ , Bill Clinton and Bush I. The Jefferson Sally Hemmings story was HUGE when it broke because he OWNED her - she was his slave! It completely changed how people saw one of the most important people in shaping a vision of America. As a history person Jacqueline knew how enormous that would be.
@annaphillips7120
Ай бұрын
Fascinating reading
@freciemagdirila7075
Ай бұрын
I really enjoy and appreciate the above discussion, very insightful. Cheere, this is why I love your channel 🙌
@hollyg3372
Ай бұрын
But she was a reflection of her husband's legacy, was she not? Remember the Camelot references she created for the article about her husband.
@dchurch2012
Ай бұрын
I am eternally grateful for Jackie O's saving of Grand Central Station. I traveled in and out of it many times, and my father took the train in from Long Island hundreds of time a year. It is unfortunate that Penn Station wasn't saved - but it's destruction was the trigger to save Grand Central. I suppose it could have been saved without her intervention, but I doubt it. Lending her name to the project really blunted the opposition.
@elizabethhopkins7582
Ай бұрын
@@dchurch2012 Me too!
@michaelhutchinson1713
Ай бұрын
You were so fair to Jackie. I really enjoyed hearing your take on the story. I do hope that you finish the Mountbatten book, though it's obvious that your subscribers aren't as interested in that story. I am. I find it truly fascinating.
@christinepaige2575
Ай бұрын
I do too, and imo the caliber of the writing is far superior to Maureen “How many times can I mention JFK’s splattered brain tissue?” Callaghan’s.
@user-vs1tc3kj3z
Ай бұрын
I'm enjoying Mountbatten, too.
@francescaderimini4422
Ай бұрын
Me too!
@jeantuohy7271
Ай бұрын
I agree. Love the Mountbatten.
@elineman7
Ай бұрын
I think people, some people, who have enough money to waste their days, get incredibly bored. I think it’s boredom with life that allows these people to not care about their actions, their purpose or their testimony. They don’t ever have to sacrifice anything of significance for the greater good- they live this selfish, entitled and quite frankly Godless life. (Referring to Ari)
@elizabethhopkins7582
Ай бұрын
Aristotle was a poor Greek who made every single penny he made. Not all of it legally BTW. He was a crude and cruel man. He was cruel to Maria too and his first wife. Textbook Cluster B personality.
@francescaderimini4422
Ай бұрын
I am here for your Commentary! There are buttons on the side of nasty remarks you can mute! I hate having you have to apology or give a reason for what you do BEST! Go with it and SOAR!
@cheeredenise
Ай бұрын
Love this reminder to use the tools at my disposal 🤣🤣
@axollot
Ай бұрын
Clicked the notification so fast! Enjoying all of the books so far with you. These are more fun to do as a group ❤
@Sandi-zh2wx
Ай бұрын
This is the only "book club" I've ever participated in ✌️
@oliviapetrinidimonforte6640
Ай бұрын
Gloria Guinness was of no dubious origin. She came from a Mexican family with far more pedigree than Jackie's. But, like Jackie, Gloria had quite a colorful life. I would have enjoyed listening to their conversation.
@HarrietCraig323
Ай бұрын
He also would have despised Maria Callas if they had married. Self-loathing people who chase love always seem to bring a lot of other people down too. So far I can’t find a hero in this book haha! 😬😬🙀🙀
@Lemon_N555
Ай бұрын
No, he wouldn't have despised her. He never had to 'buy' Callas like he did Jackie. There was no 'buyer's remorse' with Callas. He 'stole' Callas from her husband. Of course, they would've fought like cats & dogs. Both were true DIVAS so they would each give as good as they got!! Both were world famous for their individual accomplishments (him: tycoon / her: opera) so they were on a more equal footing. Moreover, Callas was worshipped worldwide for her Art & thus her 'value' would not depreciate like Jackie's. They were both Greek so they also had that connection. The fact that they stayed in each other's lives till their respective death tells you everything you need to know. Much like Sinatra & Ava Gardner.
@StStStS
Ай бұрын
Yes, he was very insulting to her too, and made out he thought opera was stupid. He must have been very weak to feel the need to chase powerful women and then try to demean and dominate them in this way.
@elizabethhopkins7582
Ай бұрын
@@HarrietCraig323 New film about Callas is coming out with Angelina Jolie. I'm sure they will cover her affair with Onassis.
@HarrietCraig323
Ай бұрын
@@elizabethhopkins7582 I heard about that film being made. Should be interesting-and very interesting casting !
@gonefishing167
Ай бұрын
Thank you Cheere, you keep doing it the way you are. It makes it enjoyable. Please don’t be hurt by the complainers out there. They’re everywhere and , I feel, it’s their only aim in life! Goodness knows what they get out of it - must make them feel so big and important- sad isn’t it, to think that’s how they value themselves! 🙏🙏👵🇦🇺
@Carrie-wl2nm
Ай бұрын
Yeah!!! I look forward to your videos!❤❤❤
@cassandratq9301
Ай бұрын
Kennedy accomplishments: Nuclear test ban treaty? Avoiding WWIII during the Cuban Missle Crisis?
@elizabethhopkins7582
Ай бұрын
@@cassandratq9301The race to land on the Moon Established the Peace Corp
@bobtaylor170
Ай бұрын
The address on civil rights in June, 1963. If you don't know the history of those three years, you have no idea how critical and dangerous they were. Kennedy made that address to the nation on civil rights because he was moved by moral outrage. He wrote it himself. When he got up that morning, he didn't know he'd be doing it. His aides pleaded with him to be careful, think it over. Kennedy told them to scr*w off and tell the networks he wanted the airtime. The speech was unfinished when the broadcast started, so he did some of it improvisatorily. That took real moral courage. It's easy to think poorly of JFK for obvious reasons, but the man had heroic qualities, too. The best account of both his war heroism and his bravery in struggling through horrible illness is in Robert Caro's book, "The Passage of Power."
@dianelodico2166
Ай бұрын
Most interesting chapter thus far I think. Thank you Cheere.
@shortylucy
Ай бұрын
OMG, yes!!! I am so looking forward to this chapter. Tickle me intrigued! 🍿
@carolwoodward6141
Ай бұрын
Hello from Virginia. As to commentary, go girl! We also get to comment. It’s a book 📚 club!
@vickiebrezee2799
Ай бұрын
If I received jewelry every time my husband said something mean to me, I'd be flush with jewels after 43 years.
@rhondahayward
Ай бұрын
So sorry to hear you confess that ! 💙🦋
@Robutube1
Ай бұрын
I really hope that you get offers to read audiobooks - you have a real talent for it; beautiful modulation!
@cheeredenise
Ай бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@princesspenelope5267
Ай бұрын
💯 % Agreed!! 😊
@heatblair
Ай бұрын
So excited! I was traveling with my grandma yesterday, so I didn’t get to watch the previous episode until this morning! Finished it, ordered some kosher food for lunch, and then got the notification for this new episode! Today is a good day ☺️
@LouisaWatt
Ай бұрын
It never starts with physical abuse, it always starts with degradation and contempt. By the time the physical stuff starts, the victim has already been eroded to a shadow of their former self.
@katemaloney4296
Ай бұрын
And Onassis DID step up and help Jackie's aunts--Big Edie and Little Edie--to put a new roof on their Grey Gardens home when Jackie refused and told the women to go pound sand. Onassis actually liked the older women and spent time getting to know them when Jackie dismissed her father's relatives. Plus, he tried to be a father-figure to John-John, relishing in the second chance to be a dad to a son (Caroline, like Jackie, dismissed any good will Ari extended, but she relished in shopping sprees and using the Onassis planes to fly herself and her girlfriends to Europe for ski trips) In fact, John was closer to Alexander and Christina than Caroline, and when Christina died in 1988, John went to the funeral to say his goodbyes. Caroline was like "Whatever". Onassis wasnt entirely the devil, but it's for sure that he and Jackie brought out the absolute worst of the worse in each other.
@cherylvirgilio2494
Ай бұрын
😂😂 does anything get accomplished in the White House!! So perfect and so true!!
@Pandabaire3540
Ай бұрын
I want to be angry at him for his actions to her, but - she put herself in this role.
@laurafairfield6042
Ай бұрын
I read this book last month AND am LOVING your reading and commentary. It's like a virtual book club with one speaking member 😂 We love your talking - that's the point I thought?
@michelle3952
Ай бұрын
Onassis felt that he was able to dominate her sexually, but he was off-put by the fact that he could not dominate her intellectually. It must have been aggravating to him that she would READ BOOKS. So, he started to attack her. An obedient Balkan wife she was not.
@annastinehammersdottir1290
Ай бұрын
Jackie wasn't tiny. She was tall, boney and model-like with size 11 feet and a large head with big hair. I served her at a restaurant for a Doubleday appointment in 1979 New York City and literally ran into her returning from the restroom; definitely not tiny and one of the most interesting customers I got a chance to suss out in my brief serving career.
@cheeredenise
Ай бұрын
Tiny as in not fat.
@MiamiPush2theLimit
Ай бұрын
That 24 pounds was all fluid. Thats why she ended up in the hospital. Dehydration. She’s lucky her heart survived that.
@vickiebrezee2799
Ай бұрын
I don't agree that Rose was a "thoroughbred" for not showing emotions. I think it makes her cold as ice. Anyone who can put their daughter away because she was "slow" is pitiable. I don't want anyone to envy me or pity me. We all have weaknesses and issues, and we all need each other for comfort and compassion. Just to lean on a friend or family member from time to time is necessary. That's what makes us human.
@zeldahopper
Ай бұрын
I love that you said " what are we but a map of human weakness... Held together by the grace of God." So true.
@sheilahelms1757
Ай бұрын
Keep talking! If I wanted just the book read to meI would go elsewhere. I find your voice so pleasant, appreciate your pace & expressive way you emphasize conversations, your reading pace & LOVE your commentary!!! THANK YOU!
@maureenormston8356
Ай бұрын
I'm loving this book, there's just so much stuff that I knew absolutely nothing about. I knew Onassis was seriously loaded and assumed that was her initial attraction. What a pos Onassis was, just vile. I wonder if it was the thrill of the chase for him with Jackie and then only to discover she was far superior intellectually and his masculinity was seriously offended 🤷. She certainly led a colourful, if somewhat tragic and sad, life. Love your commentary, don't ever stop👍
@heidiwolf1793
Ай бұрын
“Please lady, not this” 😂😂😂
@minxyminto8143
Ай бұрын
Ooh Classic narc moves by Onassis - love bomb and adore her while she’s unavailable, denigrate dismantle and discard when she’s his. UGH! a horribly familiar pattern 🤦♀️
@Happinc
Ай бұрын
Where were the Caroline & Jack Junior when all this Onassis turmoil was going on? Imagine how damaging it would be to have to live through such perverse circumstances!
@bobtaylor170
Ай бұрын
They were pre teens, then teenagers. Onassis died in 1975. Exactly what would you have expected children to be able to do to help her?
@LadyCat183
17 күн бұрын
@@bobtaylor170the question was where were they, not could they help. I would also like to know where they were. Boarding schools?
@dalehoward3704
6 күн бұрын
They were certainly present. Ari was close to John Jr when he and Jackie were married, but quickly dropped him through the divorce. John was supposedly very hurt . I believe it. He lost a father and uncle (that he remembers being close to). And he now lost this 3rd male figure.😢
@WinstonLorde
Ай бұрын
What is amazing, to me, is that your commentary and analysis of this book, which is outstanding, is extemporaneous not studied and rehearsed. Excellent! And your assessment of Toni Morrison's work is right on the mark; her elevation to the height of the American literary canon was, without a doubt, the produce of Leftist white guilt not her writing ability. And I'm black, lest someone thinks that I have a racial axe to grind. Think about it this way. W.H. Auden, Evelyn Waugh, and John Updike never were awarded the Nobel Prize, but Toni Morrison is a Nobel laureate for writing junk. Tragically, I was forced to read them in high school in my AP English class.
@janicew8338
Ай бұрын
This is such an enjoyable way to read these books!
@davinanavira7428
Ай бұрын
It was by random that I came across your channel but I’m glad I did. I am a history girly so I enjoy reading/listening to history related literature. I LOVE your commentary and the reading selections so far. I’ve always had a curiosity about the Kennedy Family - and this book has definitely been an eye opener about their lives. Can’t wait for the next video!
@cheeredenise
Ай бұрын
I'm so glad!
@queenredspecial
Ай бұрын
I hate hate hate the thought of her being demeaned by this sicko. BTW I can listen to you talk for days.
@jenniferbeasley8090
Ай бұрын
So happy for another episode so soon!!!!!
@cleverkittn
Ай бұрын
After being a willing participant in her debasement into vulgarity and crudeness, it’s amazing she didn’t realize it would similarly devalue any respect he once had for her. After publicly making such a point to debase her before the world, it’s amazing he expected people with power and old money to respect HIM. They both were delusional. Keep private things private is the lesson neither seemed to understand.
@Wanderlust.428
Ай бұрын
Thanks for posting Cheere!💛🌻
@Marie-mo9id
Ай бұрын
I just want to know what is going on with Jackie's children during this marriage.
@Anna-Bernadette
Ай бұрын
What Jackie did for Grand Central Station is nothing short of amazing. It is a beautiful place to visit and sit to enjoy a drink or have dinner. The ceiling is the sky with all of the constellations adorning it. There are many shops and restaurants. I highly recommend visiting this site and experiencing for yourself the work of Jackie Kennedy.
@StStStS
Ай бұрын
I had no idea it had ever been under threat; perish the thought!! And thank you Jackie O!
@maxinefreeman8858
Ай бұрын
@@StStStS I'm old, never seen Grand Central Station. I remember Jackie raising money to save it. I love history and I like to see older and historical buildings and etc, not be torn down. We Americans have seen history disappear.
@StStStS
Ай бұрын
@@maxinefreeman8858 I visited it once, over a decade ago but the magic of its atmosphere is fresh in my memory. And not because it had been in films. The acoustics are beautiful. Everything seems to whisper. And glow gold. Yes, heritage is so important. 🥰
@elizabethhopkins7582
Ай бұрын
@@Anna-Bernadette Yes!!!
@phulanadethal
Ай бұрын
I can’t help but like Jackie O, (apart from the fact she was a greedy B) what I loved about her was her fight to preserve historical buildings, I wish she had done more of that. I live in Europe now, but I’m old enough to remember how many grandiose architecture was destroyed to build ugly strip malls and random buildings 🤮 When I lived in Atlanta, Ga, one of the thirteen original colonies at that, I felt horrible how the preservation society wasn’t able to save a lot of those structures because of big construction companies won against them. And sadly, donations to those societies is seen as snobbery, rather than their real purpose, which is what you just said, future generations being able to see our past thru their eyes. Anyone reading this, since what’s done is done, please donate to animal causes if you can. 🙏🏽
@Rando15
Ай бұрын
She may have been wealthy, but she had nothing. She's not even likeable.
@jmama6058
Ай бұрын
I agree with you! Very self-centered and woe is me.
@malomama4750
Ай бұрын
And you are?
@lornarettig3215
Ай бұрын
I agree. I didn't know much about this woman beyond her name (I'm not from the US) and while I don't dislike her, I don't warm to her either. I don't think I would have found much to be friends with.
@elizabethhopkins7582
Ай бұрын
@@Rando15 I knew her a bit and she was a very likeable person. She was gracious and thoughtful, sharp as a tack, a great conversationalist, witty as hell. She ended what had been a life of heartbreak and tragedy on a level that would have done most people in with a career that she adored , a man who adored her for all the right reasons, a great relationship with her children, and grandchildren who she loved and spent a lot of time with 2 blocks away. Everything that anyone could want. And I was happy for her as anyone with basic human empathy should be.
@Rando15
Ай бұрын
@@elizabethhopkins7582 Thanks for this. I should have been clearer. She does not come across as likeable in this particular book. Personally, I was fascinated by her.
@paulabizzak9532
Ай бұрын
Your delivery is impeccable! Would be fascinating to know where she falls on the Meyers Briggs Personality Type.
@SHLCDBGTablet2
Ай бұрын
INTJ I would guess. Both she and her sister were narcissistic as well as her father.
@suzanking5625
Ай бұрын
Ari felt about Maria the same way Charles did Camilla. Marriage wouldn't interfere with the affair he wanted. Jacqueline and Diana responded in a similar fashion as well. Jacqueline selected the men she wanted, and their marital status wasn't a concern. She spent the last twelve years of her life with Maurice, a married man. At the end, Diana didn't care that Will Carling was newly married, didn't care that Oliver Hoare had a wife and children, in her final weeks didn't care that Dodi Al Fayed had a 'fiancé' on a nearby yacht.
@elizabethhopkins7582
Ай бұрын
Maurice was no longer living with his wife when Jacqueline met him. Their marriage had been over for many years but they didn't divorce because of his wife's devout Jewish faith. Not a parallel to Diana in any way.
@suzanking5625
Ай бұрын
@@elizabethhopkins7582 Yeah, and Camilla still living with her husband made things so much more fragrant !
@elizabethhopkins7582
Ай бұрын
@@suzanking5625 I don't think that trying to draw parallells between members of the British Royal Family and Jacqueline Kennedy is particularly apt. Different culture, different situations,, altogether.
@barbaraspector6689
Ай бұрын
Jews divorce.
@Kathleen-zn9oe
Ай бұрын
Have you not accepted the fact that Diana admitted she was the first to stray and it was early in the marriage. People have such blinkered views when they idolise their favourites
@silva7493
Ай бұрын
Yes, smart & crazy can (and not infrequently) share in one personality.
@msbeecee1
Ай бұрын
ur hair bun looks fabulous on u🎉❤
@margaretmorris672
Ай бұрын
Love the length of your commentary you bring such interesting thoughts and insights to the book. Can’t wait for the next chapter thank you 💕
@NiniM8154
Ай бұрын
Agree with you about her affairs with married men. Rather hypocritical of her! Like Diana, Jackie left the wronged wives in the position of having to compete with arguably the most famous woman in the world. Self-centered and mean, imo.
@RebeccaGreen-qo9ey
Ай бұрын
I really enjoy your content. You are a pretty young lady.
@judistephens723
Ай бұрын
There is no mention of the children. Growing up in that environment must have been horrific.
@katiemarie4035
Ай бұрын
They actually did ok. I grew up seeing enough of them in the media to know they were surrounded by vibrant and capable people. They really didn’t want for anything. I hope the episode in the book were when the kids were at school In new York. John did like Ari. Caroline not so much. I do believe stepdad had the couth to act that way far from her kids. Jmo.
@leemarie7724
Ай бұрын
Perhaps you might want to think about a Rose Kennedy raised in a boarding school run by nuns who instilled self-discipline, and dedication to family, and God. Her life was not easy as her husband, while making millions for the dynasty, was a huge cheat himself. She put her chin up because that was what she was taught in the time she lived. You can't determine who these people are with modern values and mores.
@cheeredenise
Ай бұрын
I’m not. Pride has always been considered a deadly sin, and it’s prideful to detest showing weakness.
@leemarie7724
Ай бұрын
@@cheeredenise says you. but every human has failings. pride was definitely needed to survive the trials that came her way
@leemarie7724
Ай бұрын
By the way, I know what the Bible says....again, human failing....but that is why the Lord provides us forgiveness if we ask for it
@cheeredenise
Ай бұрын
@@leemarie7724 I’m not denying the Lord’s forgiveness, I don’t think anything I said suggests he isn’t offering that to us every moment of the day, but pride was the problem here. You’re right: pride kept her in a loveless marriage to an abuser…because she didn’t want to lose the lifestyle, the perks, didn’t want to deal with people’s annoying nosiness…in the end the desire to be on top rather than have people pity her a little but she was free is what kept her in the mess, not what saved her at all. We don’t have to agree, and I don’t think we will, but it isn’t enough to blame societal pressure for someone’s mistakes. Everyone has to take stock of their own lives and either decide to change or bend to the current culture, but if you bend to the culture there’s no free pass there. You have a free will, and if your life is miserable because you took the road well traveled, God also gave you a mind so you can rationally sort out that maybe, just maybe, the culture lead you astray and you need to find a new way to exist.
@leemarie7724
Ай бұрын
@@cheeredenise I was talking about Rose....since you said she was prideful. Perhaps pride is the wrong word? Intensely private about personal humiliations.
@sabsmcdabs7139
Ай бұрын
Reflecting on it now, did she do everyone a disservice by creating this camelot legacy for Jack. Now the truths are out, it tramples all over the reality we are told. It might have comforted people in the moment, but maybe it did more harm in the end. Fascinating story and life
@katiemarie4035
Ай бұрын
Imo she did it for her kids who were little more than toddlers. It was a genius move. The kids were grown by the time the tell alls hit the streets.
@BIBLE-UNBUTCHERED
Ай бұрын
Looking forward to this one
@buttonhead1282
Ай бұрын
I can understand why Jackie wanted to do this massive translation. It was something to focus her mind on so she didn't have to think about things she wanted to stop thinking about. It took up a lot of time and concentration which was what she felt she needed, and at the same time she could show it as some devotional she did for Ari.
@emv1237
Ай бұрын
Jackie was only 64 when she passed away, that was quite a life she lead. Unfortunately, so much trauma....
@marcopolo4576
Ай бұрын
It's comforting to know God, the Lord Jesus Christ's justice always wins out
@northeything8568
Ай бұрын
No problem for me with extended intro ! 🙂
@sunfish7021
Ай бұрын
43:09 Hurt people hurt people. There's a book you should cover.
@vparkerrd96
Ай бұрын
I really appreciated your insight today. Thanks for your hard work. Keep going!
@valerierowlett153
Ай бұрын
This woman needed the Holy Spirit.She needed to depend on God instead of men. She wasn't going to starve. Jacki, like the rest of us, was her own worst enemy. Ari was her choice as was Jack.
@catherinehoffpauir6323
Ай бұрын
Where are her children? What a crazy nightmare! I’m sorry I think she was a spoiled selfish person. Many people have had much harder lives. These people are insane.
@well_and_nourished
Ай бұрын
Love your take on this bizarre cast of characters. By the way, Maurice Templeman’s “excuse” that Judaism didn’t allow him to divorce his wife is baseless. Judaism has always allowed divorce. In fact, there is an entire section of Gemara (Oral Torah passed down from Mount Sinai) on divorce called Gittin. Perhaps Templeman needed to blame something for his unwillingness to commit fully to Jackie?
@ceciliathompson8685
Ай бұрын
You have very good insight, it’s always fascinated me that JK would tolerate such blatant betrayal by her husbands…but I guess that was another time, and yet; would she have been happy living out her life with a dull, faithful husband? Judging by her own words, most likely not.
@juliejj2651
Ай бұрын
You are so good at this Cheere. I bet you're a great teacher too!
@christinepaige2575
Ай бұрын
I believe that it has been established that Sally Hemings' descendants carry the Jefferson DNA, meaning that she did have an intimate relationship with a Jefferson (of which there were more than one at Monticello, on and off, at the time). Because exposing our heroes' "bad behavior" is so attractive to our modern sensibilities, when the DNA match to the Jeffersons was found, Thomas Jefferson was immediately and widely portrayed as having been Hemings' lover. Although it hasn't been proven, it is treated as a verified fact -- even, apparently, by tour guides at Monticello! Particularly given that Hemings was the half-sister of Thomas Jefferson's late and much-loved wife, I think it is highly probable that he was, indeed, deeply attracted to her and was the father of her children -- but as far as I know, that remains in the realm of speculation and should not be treated as fact. Not that anyone gives two hoots about facts these days.
@sherryaleshire9187
Ай бұрын
BROVO BROVO EXALANT BOOK !!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Can't wait for more 😊 thank you 🙏
@Alanaronald
Ай бұрын
Having had my years with a person of some wealth & fame, (nowhere near approaching the stellar heights of Jackie & Ari), I can say that one can be among people, yet isolated by a narcissist. One's self-esteem plummets, and when we feel glimmers of righteous indignation/anger desires to leave, the gaslighting ramps up. And with $ & power, comes the ability to buy others & use them in their destructive attempts to demolish their partner. Many people can be easily bought, and with Ari having his own private army, one can understand Jackie's fear of losing her life by leaving. Not to mention the lives of her children.
@Bashertxo
Ай бұрын
I also once dated a famous and wealthy person. It was horrible. They had zero empathy and grace and were quite sadistic. I hated myself for staying the whole time and felt bought and used by them.
@zeldahopper
Ай бұрын
I love seeing that your channel is growing!! No one deserves it more than you.
@Msfifisquarepantz
Ай бұрын
You’re are fantastic. “Accountable “😊
@lisawest6355
Ай бұрын
Please do talk! I really enjoy your opinions. Also,I'm an atheist, but your references to faith are genuinely interesting. Thank you.
@ruthkelly5197
Ай бұрын
I keep wondering where are her children? Who's raising them? Did I miss something?
@Sunflowermeadows777
Ай бұрын
Yay! I was waiting. ❤
@francescaderimini4422
Ай бұрын
The way Ari treated Callis and his daughter Christina was far far worse than the way Ari treated Jackie!
@mazriley5401
Ай бұрын
I absolutely love this book club & and I always look forward to your commentary. You make me laugh so much 😂
@HR-nl7fc
Ай бұрын
Never could figure out what all the who-hah about Toni Morrison was all about. Gratifying to know it’s not just me.
@cheeredenise
Ай бұрын
We all need to be brave and say when a writer is trash. People like her keep getting a head because everyone sees the emperor has no clothes but nobody says anything. Toni Morrison is a terrible writer and wrote books that trashed black culture and black people and who made money from debased storylines which she recast as the “brave telling of truth”.
@katiemarie4035
Ай бұрын
TM was a bullet I dodged probably due to advanced age. Lol
@karennogaski1473
Ай бұрын
I find it odd that she kept accumulating last names .Jackie Kennedy, Jackie Kennedy Onassis, Jackie Onassis then finally Jackie Bouvier Onassis? Weird. If she was so disgusted by Onassis why keep his name after he died?
@annelikriek6294
Ай бұрын
A Greek god?! Odysseus? More like the Cyclops and in some weird amalgamation, Calypso... Must have been after a trip to Dr Feelgood. Cheere, you are pumping out the episodes. I did not expect this pleasant surprise 🎉
@Sandi-zh2wx
Ай бұрын
I'd love a trip to Dr Feelgood 😂
@athenaf8278
Ай бұрын
That account is totally unbelievable! Especially copying it out in English AND GREEK!!! I call BS!
@donnab.42
Ай бұрын
You are on the mark about Toni Morrison. I always thought she was at best mediocre. Totally overrated. The result of the hype of Oprah’s Book Club.
@texanpondue
18 күн бұрын
I'm so glad to see your channel doing so well, you're an absolute delight! You're right about Toni Morrison, she was insufferable. But please don't romanticize or gloss over the reality of the Jefferson-Hemings relationship - she was a slave who couldn't say no. That doesn't make his achievements any less great, or mean we should take down his monuments, but we should acknowledge it.
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