That’s ca.700g less than Dumoulin’s new P5 disc!!?? Argon 18 has done a great job here 👍
@matebalogh7550
5 жыл бұрын
Rob Belanger but maybe little bit slower🤔🤭
@RobBelanger
5 жыл бұрын
Mate Balogh well, lopez and dumoulin had the same time at yesterday’s TT 🤔
@madmonkeycycling9098
5 жыл бұрын
The Cervélo is ridiculously heavy, and I don't think TD was too hapy about that ytd
@leon19951209
5 жыл бұрын
Dumolin won the 2017 World TT on an even heavier bike tho lol
@sirspankalottt
5 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair, this Argon is at least two sizes smaller as well..
@z4k1_zaki65
5 жыл бұрын
The junction box location is dope!
@GrotrianSeiler
5 жыл бұрын
I am awe-struck. Every inch of this bike is remarkable. Wow
@furyl1_neverz91
5 жыл бұрын
Damn that fade colour frame with that disc rear wheel.. SUPER NICE
@Outsideville
5 жыл бұрын
It's nice, but the logo on the rear wheel is not perfectly horizontal, so I can't give it a super nice. Good try. If you want to try again, be sure to use our upload link.
@wEedsty
5 жыл бұрын
Also the crank arm is pointed slightly up, definitely just a nice. Better luck next time
@Pierrrrrrrrrrrrrrre
5 жыл бұрын
It's parallel to the chain though...
@Pratalax
5 жыл бұрын
Not often a fan of fade colour schemes but this one looks pretty dope!
@D.Eldon_
5 жыл бұрын
The total weight was impressively light but we couldn't compare it to the previous TT bikes because you didn't tell us the frame size (unless I missed it). It looks like a small frame which may account for some of the lighter weight.
@mrmatthewking
5 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous bike. I was sceptical of the time saving of 25 seconds from 10W, but the maths actually checks out (assuming a rider putting out about 400W)
@xc12
5 жыл бұрын
That paint job is sick
@sudduthjonathan
5 жыл бұрын
I love that is comes with a kickstand! And those handlebar streamers are dope!
@Hexsense
5 жыл бұрын
IMO, 11-30 is better than 11-28 (Shimano 11 speed version) in pretty much all situation. They are 11-12-13-14-15-17-19-21-23-25-28 vs 11-12-13-14-15-17-19-21-24-27-30 Only last three cogs are different. And if you need to use 23 or larger at the back, it means you are climbing. If you climb normally you won't mind bigger jump as much as when you find the right gear at speed (and percentage wise, not tooth count wise, it's not exactly a big jump). Having lower gear to spare is useful.
@matthewho1053
5 жыл бұрын
I don't agree. I like to use the big chain ring if the gradient is not too steep. Big jump at the back is not ideal for this situation.
@scottishjohn
5 жыл бұрын
🤑 Think that I might just be a little bit envious of Astana team now...! What a bike, still prefer a rim brake bike for the aesthetics but this disc equipped Time Trial bike is both a thing of beauty and a really functional bike. I have been wondering how wheel manufacturers would be able to overcome the problem of trying to put space for a disc rotor along with having a solid rear wheel but maintaining the weight and stiffness but those Corima wheels look the business! 🧐 Thanks guys and very much look forward to more Tech from the Giro!
@mattyice1710
5 жыл бұрын
Nice, but I have the feeling the the bike is faster and lighter in spite on the disc brakes, not because of them. The engineers did a great job with it, but the bike would be lighter and more aero with rim brakes.
@DrJRMCFC
5 жыл бұрын
plus one, you’re completely right. I
@mposh
5 жыл бұрын
False. I worked at A18 for 4 years and it is in fact lighter AND more aero than the old E-118 Next. www.argon18bike.com/uploads/files/e118pro-final-vt.pdf
@karstenmeinders4844
5 жыл бұрын
Great looks and great functionality of the Argon bike! The only thing I am kinda struggling is the 3-spoke front wheel.
@jared1932
5 жыл бұрын
Ollie really love disc brake. Nice bike
@symphantic4552
4 жыл бұрын
Their old black-white-red livery will be missed. Was snazzy AF.
@AaronGoodTimes
5 жыл бұрын
Have you guys ever done a comparison between various bike frames to try and quantify for the consumer what makes a good frame regardless of the manufacturer? For road bikes in general I suppose, as well as across materials.
@JasCar1967
5 жыл бұрын
Argon 18 make great bikes!
@geoffbuck6865
5 жыл бұрын
One can't say that discs are lighter or more aero than rim by comparing the total weight or drag with last year's model unless brakes are the only difference.
@wjeurs
5 жыл бұрын
Did you just use the left hand lever to stop the rear wheel :O
@JayB-lz6yd
5 жыл бұрын
this is a preference but i'd say it also should be that way for everybody. people say it's because of which side of the road you ride, i call bullshit. front brake on the left is an abomination.
@MrPijus123
5 жыл бұрын
@@JayB-lz6yd could say tge same but the other way around. Its a matter of what you grew up with and neither option has any advantages.
@tonycrabtree3416
5 жыл бұрын
JayB29 In America we are taught hands signals for turning with our left hands.
@wjeurs
5 жыл бұрын
@@tonycrabtree3416 In the Netherlands we are also learned hand signals, right hand for right and left hand for left :D
@pdrmnds
5 жыл бұрын
@@JayB-lz6yd I guess you meant front brake on the right is an abomination!
@imbarobin
5 жыл бұрын
his brake set up is left lever for the rear wheel, the british way!
@JayB-lz6yd
5 жыл бұрын
the way it should be everywhere. motorbikes don't reverse it so why bicycles?? it's just an abomination.
@martinhuweler4056
5 жыл бұрын
The british way, also known as the wrong way ;)
@amritangural8508
5 жыл бұрын
these corima wheel sets are dope. i own bora one's but this is some next level stuff plus its a tt bike anyways
@paulpaul5606
5 жыл бұрын
Just beautiful
@Narashimai
5 жыл бұрын
disc with tri-spoked wheel brilliant!
@lennartmeinke8861
5 жыл бұрын
Those corima wheels are hot!
@Skirata1000
5 жыл бұрын
Majka was on a new disc Shiv for his TT run
@damon123jones
5 жыл бұрын
supercool..my new favorite....when will some one copy the single sided fork or swing arm i wonder
@gaveltron
5 жыл бұрын
Likely never since i doubt they are uci legal
@twistmint1346
5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!
@PierreC2
5 жыл бұрын
Man Ollie you've reviewed just about every top bikes...i Wonder what is your favorite ??
@HECTORBIDO
5 жыл бұрын
Stunning bike
@mrstanhope1516
5 жыл бұрын
E-118 I thought that was Yorkshire directory enquiries? Nice bike but think discs are a bit pointless on a discipline where you don't want to brake too often.
@mposh
5 жыл бұрын
Tell that to Valverde during the 2017 Tour de France (Stage 1 ITT)
@mrstanhope1516
5 жыл бұрын
@@mposh Bad workman always blames his tools. Most other riders managed to keep it rubber side down.
@mposh
5 жыл бұрын
@@mrstanhope1516 And Froome at this year's Dauphine
@mrstanhope1516
5 жыл бұрын
@@mposh Disc brakes wouldn't have helped him if he wasn't holding the handlebars.
@jameswillett118
5 жыл бұрын
That’s a nice bike 👍🏼
@windnomade7431
5 жыл бұрын
Absolutley beauty!
@matthewlawrence2976
5 жыл бұрын
5:12 Ollie's shades move up and down. How does he do that?!
@estelja
5 жыл бұрын
Plug those huge crank spindle holes! Marginal gains, right?..
@craftyduces90003
5 жыл бұрын
Now that’s a very very super nice!
@gcntech
5 жыл бұрын
Crikey!
@reginaldscot165
5 жыл бұрын
The new TREK Madone is supposed to be an aero road bike.... it's 8.4kg, this bike is fully aero and it's 8.3kg... makes you think.
@rpx1979
5 жыл бұрын
TT bikes are often heavier.
@hemzaczekrafal
5 жыл бұрын
@@rpx1979 exactly his point, they should be but this isnt
@JS-tb9hu
5 жыл бұрын
Corona wheels are insanely light though
@samuelhopely4853
5 жыл бұрын
The iso speed system basically gives the Madone an extra tube, and an additional 80 grams of reinforcement was required for the disc brakes. I've never really loved Trek, but 8.4 kilos is surprisingly lean for all that. This bike is just brilliant though, I have no idea how they did it. Ultegra rotors too!
@reginaldscot165
5 жыл бұрын
Samuel Hopely indeed the iso does add considerable weight to the bike. It's to make an aero road bike actually rideable, because normally the ride quality and comfort of such bikes is terrible, in my experience. But it doesn't make much sense to me... I ride a hand made, USA made Titanium racing bike, one of the best of its type if not the best. Comfort is obviously not an issue as it's Titanium and although it's in Ultegra and has no carbon parts other than the fork it weights 7.6kg. (Size 56) I saved about $4000 over the Madone and if I had spent that much money my bike would be closer to 6kg... so honestly I'm a bit perplexed why anyone would be stupid enough to buy a bike like the Madone? But I know a lot of people are. To me it's a made in China bike that is ridiculously heavy and only comfortable (maybe?) because they crammed it full of shock absorbers... that will probably be expensive to service and repair? Yes it's Aero, but if you want true Aero buy a TT bike right? And as 80% of the drag is the rider and 16% is your wheels how much more aerodynamic is a Madone over a normal bike? Dose it really make a difference to most people? And what happens when you ride a 8.4kg bike and you come to a hill steeper than 6%... like I say, I don't get it?
@dodoslovensko
5 жыл бұрын
Back brake on left = oh sweet jesus ill be dead in first corner .
@QiuyuanChenRyan916
5 жыл бұрын
Well, that is the same as my set up. Thing is I can signal a left turn while breaking my front wheels.
@matthewho1053
5 жыл бұрын
This is something personal just like the saddle
@camsterasmar975
5 жыл бұрын
Why not compare the weight of this years disc brake model to this years rim brake model, if there is one? It’s good to know it’s lighter than the previous rim brake model but someone might want to go even lighter if this years rim brake model is lighter than the disc brake model.
@matthewho1053
5 жыл бұрын
Maybe this year model is a disc specific design?
@mposh
5 жыл бұрын
250g lighter than the old E-118 Next www.argon18bike.com/uploads/files/e118pro-final-vt.pdf
@50nakamura
5 жыл бұрын
The things we can do in my corner of the world!
@londonlodge
3 жыл бұрын
Oli, Were you in Italy ?
@DrJRMCFC
5 жыл бұрын
I love the way he says it is much cleaner at the front end, conveniently ignoring the great lump of a disc and calliper at the hub. Swap for a rim brake and it will be more aero. Fact.
@mposh
5 жыл бұрын
False. Because the fork crown area is cleaned up to offset the rotor.
@d4nman274
5 жыл бұрын
FSA power box. Good gear that 😍
@kostais
5 жыл бұрын
My 70s road bike weights 11 in stock. Still do not understand whats new they invent
@AlexRochette
4 жыл бұрын
What glasses is Ollie wearing?
@jaysonf356
5 жыл бұрын
is that a new tacx water bottle? anyone know if it's available anywhere? I checked their website and it's not listed which makes me wonder if it's new.
@DogeTrump
5 жыл бұрын
Is there a GCN video on how to disassemble and reassemble a road bike?
@CrankCyclingChannel
5 жыл бұрын
Tristan Tiong why
@DogeTrump
5 жыл бұрын
@@CrankCyclingChannel Idk how to
@jpprovost64
5 жыл бұрын
the wheels wow
@Phaidrus
5 жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@douglaspate9314
5 жыл бұрын
I think the mechanics use those electric power tools to unlock the wheels rather than "an allen key", don't they?
@keananconnor4221
5 жыл бұрын
Do the muc off Bike pressure washer!
@criminalb1233
5 жыл бұрын
Did he just used the left brake lever to stop the rear wheel??
@GregaJuvancic
5 жыл бұрын
They reckon? Couldn't find a scale, could they?
@lowflyingdonut
5 жыл бұрын
now let's see what Sam Pilgrim can do with it.
@gillescordier8033
5 жыл бұрын
Woah... The machine of a dream...!! 🇨🇦😉
@ytpadyt
5 жыл бұрын
Rear break with left break lever? Wow
@cameronduff9820
5 жыл бұрын
Pady That’s the standard in Europe!
@tonycrabtree3416
5 жыл бұрын
Cameron Duff I was going to say, “they drive on the left side”
@RobBelanger
5 жыл бұрын
Cameron Duff in the UK yes, but not in Europe.
@ytpadyt
5 жыл бұрын
And why the drivetrain on right side in UK? 😂
@tonycrabtree3416
5 жыл бұрын
Pady Hand signals for turning is the reason for brakes. The drive train doesn’t matter at all.
@lukaseustaquio3102
5 жыл бұрын
So beautiful 😍
@nickhumphrey4833
5 жыл бұрын
Astana and wolfpack tyres- I think they are the only UCI pro team to use those tyres. Very much alone wolf in that regard
@petrolventure
5 жыл бұрын
How did his glasses move @5:13?
@fishyRh
5 жыл бұрын
if i would ever steal a bike, this is the one.
@danielebergonzi8461
5 жыл бұрын
Dario Cataldo 25th after the first stage complained of an out of true rear disc rotor 😁
@marcinkonietzko2911
5 жыл бұрын
kzitem.info/news/bejne/on6u12tjg4iTY34 ??
@gillescordier8033
5 жыл бұрын
That's hard to believe, any excuse is valid I guess when you think you can win the TT...
@tonycrabtree3416
5 жыл бұрын
Gilles Cordier Don’t get your disc brake panties in a wad...
@ketija8999
5 жыл бұрын
lol
@glennoc8585
5 жыл бұрын
Is it the brakes fault or bad setup? I di my own discs and they dont rub so a pro tteam has no excuse.
@el-borcio4457
5 жыл бұрын
nice video
@anisskamal663
3 жыл бұрын
nice bike
@ripped-old-git
5 жыл бұрын
I want one!
@jonnythelegs2597
5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love Corima wheels. In 2 minds with disc brakes being more aero as there's more mass at the hub if they made the same tweaks narrowing the headtube area and ran an integrated brake and a tune style tt skewer it would have less frontal mass to be honest I wouldn't be suprized if tt bikes go back to a proprietary 1" steerer, headtube and bar setup, it wouldn't be hard to get it stiff enough again now carbon manufacture has come so far since that was the norm.
@oreocarlton3343
5 жыл бұрын
Discs are never aero due to front wheel asyimetry. Frame is faster because its updated, not because of discs. Dont believe the hype.
@jonnythelegs2597
5 жыл бұрын
@@oreocarlton3343 i'm with you on that, it's not as much of an issue with tri spokes but yeah you can't have radial spokes or a tiny hub axle with disc brakes.
@morrisizing
5 жыл бұрын
I think using the 3 spoke probably helps limit the drag from using disc brakes as they can cope with the braking force, while normally spoked wheels need more spokes so are less aero. Think they sometimes find a few yaw angles the disc brake version is quicker at so they can say its better than the rim brake bike.
@rockroll9473
5 жыл бұрын
Did I miss tire size?
@thakoharris
5 жыл бұрын
Why is tire clearance important on a time trial bike?
@beeble2003
5 жыл бұрын
Possibly aerodynamics? These days, there's a trend for having wider spaces forks so there's less interaction between the spokes and the fork blades; the same maybe applies to the tyre and the fork crown?
@martinfisker7438
5 жыл бұрын
Shortcuts?
@tomnewham1269
5 жыл бұрын
I’m guessing aerodynamics too. Bigger gaps you have would allow air to pass more freely.
@marcgraveline1771
5 жыл бұрын
Wider tires for rolling resistance.
@julmeissonnier
5 жыл бұрын
For those gravel TT, now that's a niche market ;) !
@johnkim3858
5 жыл бұрын
Really looks like the BMC Timemachine TM01
@the.communist
5 жыл бұрын
8.3kg? Prove it with a scale
@Loris8768
5 жыл бұрын
Bella bella 👍🏼👍🏼
@b09d4n
5 жыл бұрын
This is more like Road Bike geometry than TT Bike geometry. Look at the saddle how forward back is.
@josearodriguez4000
5 жыл бұрын
GOD BLESS YOU !!! Nice like waooooo !!!
@ozgurinsan
5 жыл бұрын
yeah yeah, at least they admit that disc brake bikes are half a kilo heavier, and why compare it to last years rim brake bike, compare it to same bike with rim brakes
@CryWolfFilms
5 жыл бұрын
Lol exactly. It'd be lighter if it was the exact bike with rim brakes
@mposh
5 жыл бұрын
They did - www.argon18bike.com/uploads/files/e118pro-final-vt.pdf
@pdrmnds
5 жыл бұрын
WTF. Are the brakes swaped?
@dennisprofetajr9642
5 жыл бұрын
That's cool
@jondillon3333
5 жыл бұрын
UK brake set up not Euro????
@borthwey
5 жыл бұрын
Why are these bikes so heavy? Extra stiffness for time trials?
@CryWolfFilms
5 жыл бұрын
Disc brakes
@borthwey
5 жыл бұрын
@@CryWolfFilms It was said that disc brakes increase the weight by 500 grams (which already seems like a lot to me). It was also said that even with the disc brakes, this bike was weighing was much as a similar rim brake bike. So the question remains. It's not because of the disc brakes because the rim brakes bike is equally (relatively) heavy. And it's not because of the disc brakes because I mean in comparison with a 5-6 kg bike, which is 3 kg lighter.
@mposh
5 жыл бұрын
Aero tube shapes are heavier than round tubes.
@mattparsons6487
5 жыл бұрын
They updated the frame and made it faster, NOT that the disc brakes make it faster! Hate “claims”
@oreocarlton3343
5 жыл бұрын
Obviously correct, I hate to hear these half truths out there to confuse buyers
@mposh
5 жыл бұрын
But the discs mean you can brake later, keeping more of your speed for longer. So, it is faster.
@davidharrington6273
5 жыл бұрын
A “scruffy” dura ace di2 junction box😂😂😂
@jbkltc4469
5 жыл бұрын
a TT Bike called "E-......", couldn't be more suspicious
@theylivewesee1674
5 жыл бұрын
soon the e-bikes will be uset in peloton when they started to get even more slimmer
@mposh
5 жыл бұрын
All of Argon 18's TT/Tri bikes start with E-### since 2008 and the E-114. Because all their road models are Element names.
@KeithFlint350
5 жыл бұрын
Rear brake in left hand? Why?
@Tom-ol9em
5 жыл бұрын
Exactly!!!!! WTF Was wondering if I'm the only one who caught that b.s.
@bertolddrijver7444
5 жыл бұрын
same here
@lucky5609
5 жыл бұрын
Where would it be
@feedbackzaloop
5 жыл бұрын
Seems like Cataldo rides motorbikes a lot as well
@andyheilmann1656
5 жыл бұрын
Copy and paste the cervelo video for the weight and disk breaks
@christill
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see more disc TT bikes. The frames of most of the TT bikes look very similar though. Not much variation between brands as far as I can tell. Maybe they’ve all figured out aerodynamics.
@oreocarlton3343
5 жыл бұрын
How is that awesome? Discs on TT are totally pointless and just prove how far companies will go for the hype
@christill
5 жыл бұрын
Oreo Carlton Ok well it seems to me that they’re more aero, lighter, much safer, nicer to use, have more feel, look cooler.... But by all means, enjoy your rim brakes.
@oreocarlton3343
5 жыл бұрын
@@christill discs are safer but are less aero and more weight, safety isnt the no1 thing in racing...
@christill
5 жыл бұрын
Oreo Carlton Did you watch the video? XD
@oreocarlton3343
5 жыл бұрын
@@christill I did, bike might be more Aero, but it isnt because of discs
@seano8102
5 жыл бұрын
why arent bike brands using a rim brake at the rear and a disc at the front, surely thats the best of both worlds. discs are already heavy adding another disc cant help that. plus getting a disc disc is a nightmare for customers
@Cathandroo
5 жыл бұрын
I've looked into building a bike from scratch and the actual frames need to be stronger and heavier. It's not just the braking components. On average for a carbon from the disc version is at least 250g heavier.. it's a pity but I guess the extra braking forces need strengthening frames forks etc.
@Digi20
5 жыл бұрын
because it would feel absolutely weird having completely different bite points and power requierements for front and rear. also, levers are different for hydro discs and rim brakes. and no, setting and maintaining a disc is not a nightmare, its just different tech you need to be open for.
@Tom-ol9em
5 жыл бұрын
Left hand rear brake?? Really?
@grvl307
5 жыл бұрын
My reaction as well.... :'(
@JayB-lz6yd
5 жыл бұрын
you are abominations guys. just deal with it. front = right. that's it.
@Hexsense
5 жыл бұрын
my bike too. Front right, rear left.
@markifi
5 жыл бұрын
10 W at 50 km/h just on the brakes is bullshit I think; so is 500 grams weight increase with disc bikes (it's not that much), and so is 250 grams lighter than the rim brake version. The rim brake version must be a different technology frame then. Argon18 bikes always look great.
@alexmites
5 жыл бұрын
8.3kg!
@philwilks
5 жыл бұрын
“10 watts could make all the difference” - no shit
@yspegel
5 жыл бұрын
How much is that at 35km/h?? Some one? :p
@marcgraveline1771
5 жыл бұрын
5 watts
@njm3211
5 жыл бұрын
I don't care about the disc brake hype. A well integrated front rim brake and one mounted on the seat tube near the BB is gonna be more aero and lighter.
@mposh
5 жыл бұрын
False. A18 used to have the aero caliper v-brakes behind the fork blades and it didn`t have enough stopping power, difficult to modulate, and hard to adjust for different wheel widths.
@matijajesenko4195
5 жыл бұрын
Left brake for rear wheel? Weird.
@donaldrivera9861
5 жыл бұрын
Please ride it :(
@lou_leem
5 жыл бұрын
Why does a TT bike need better brakes?
@mposh
5 жыл бұрын
Ask Chris Froome at this year's Dauphine and Valverde during the 2017 Tour de France Stage 1 ITT
@hanyaoyap1826
5 жыл бұрын
Wow
@owenchuarbx
5 жыл бұрын
Argon 18 should ditch their number 18 and be renamed to just Argon. The numbers are always confusing me
@RobBelanger
5 жыл бұрын
Owen Chua they have a tradition of naming their bike with gases (eg krypton, nitrogen) and other elements (eg gallium). E-118, or element 118, is oganesson, a synthesized element. The 18 is the atomic number for Argon. I think they should definitely keep it.
@tmbmtl
5 жыл бұрын
Understand that the cameraman needs good light, but not showing the rear dic brake is somewhat amateur hour... Outstanding bike though.
@simonviter8815
5 жыл бұрын
I wish that I can get a new free bikes.
@PelloGreno
5 жыл бұрын
The Frame looks exactly like this www.lambda-racing.de/product-page/avenger-tm6-rahmen Who is the copycat?
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