We voted for 40 minutes. You owe us 39 more seconds of pure gold.
@altair3090
Жыл бұрын
We clearly got robbed
@SamuelDoesThings2011
Жыл бұрын
@@altair3090 Absolutely!
@Guitario666
Жыл бұрын
Watch it again 😃
@Evie0133
Жыл бұрын
LOL
@mikewifak
Жыл бұрын
KERRY gold
@SuiSanoo
Жыл бұрын
Looks good, but in Germany it’s 800€, 200€ more than the highest Steam Deck version. So not really worth it for me personally. Just got the 64GB version a week ago and so far really enjoying it
@marcofreire
Жыл бұрын
Here, in Portugal is going to be released July 17 at the high high price of 800€. Steam Deck is 679€. Huge difference.
@davidatkinson6267
Жыл бұрын
Ordered mine today!!
@l-Jeremy
Жыл бұрын
This a weird technical question, Russ, but I hope you see this. With your numerous sections about demonstrating different quality components - you show your "Contra Test" and the D-pad functionality very well; it's excellent! You show different aspects of the device uniquely. It's no surprise you are quickly rising up in the community. Is there a way to provide a basic line graph model (thematically styled, with transparency, etc.) that represents the bass and treble balance in low/mid/high ranges? It might be a bit much or over technical at first thought, but I guess if you have a baseline of something with exceptional output - say, oh I dunno, a SteamDeck - and then comparing devices such as the Ally sound quality to that of the Deck. For the example of the Hades theme song: You could have the song length and the change on the graph as the track plays, with a parallel graph as a comparison of the output of the Steam Deck's output. It would be a subtle but beneficial way of adding to the strength of your demonstration section for sound as the speakers are important. This Ally seems a deserving candidate, as a severe competitor compared to the Deck.
@Oakich
Жыл бұрын
Finally a Hadouken-able and Shoriyuken-able D Pad on a handheld.
@DavidFilskov
Жыл бұрын
Great review! - Looking forward to latency measurements :)
@jaymel4691
Жыл бұрын
I didn't see any 3DS games tested but I assume there is more than enough power here to work with, the only question I have is which power mode would be best. I would expect Performance mode but maybe the Silent mode could work for easier games? Also since Wii runs well I assume the MP Trilogy would work fine on Primehack too, in Performance mode. Great review! I'm really looking forward to getting this.
@dri_him
Жыл бұрын
120hz needs to be used correctly. It's not really meant to push games all the way to 120fps just to match the refresh rate. Instead we need to think about the advantages, 120hz lowers input latency and best of all, when games run in 40fps it divides evenly into 120hz and this will limit the risk of screen tearing!
@raphaelpetty1491
Жыл бұрын
Do you experience impute lag? I hope the consol runs smooth. Like a traditional console controller
@MaximusOD12
Жыл бұрын
Any chance this weekend you can test Diablo 4 on asus ally? And how does it work?
@TappIntoGames
Жыл бұрын
I was excited to buy this but the UK have to pay an extra £150. $699 = £558 but we have to pay £699. I think I'd rather leave it then if ita not fairly priced.
@junkmail6274
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I love this device, not because I plan to buy, but to ensure Valve is kept on it's toes for the inevitable Steam Deck 2
@billywhitaker6658
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@RJ_chaos
Жыл бұрын
Yes! Competition is great
@sca8217
Жыл бұрын
Ditto! If much rather stick to the steam library than go around foraging for games on different platforms.
@ekinteko
Жыл бұрын
The only way for that to work is for people to buy the ASUS ROG ALLY Pro. They're making little to no profit from this. So go and support them. Right now the Best Value option is the $700 Pro Model, followed by the $600 Base Model, then it's the $400 SteamDeck. Other options from GPD and competitors aren't even in the picture. If it was my money, I'd get the Ally Pro for the Portable Windows Gaming, Retroid Pocket 3+ for the Pocketable Android Games, and maybe an iPhone for those iOS Apps. That covers the three main ecosystems. Also upto consideration is a console like PS5, and a non-gaming laptop from either Lenovo or MacBook Pro, and if I have the space perhaps a Large Desktop PC for gaming at the luxury budget.
@Kasmot
Жыл бұрын
Valve already said that Steam Deck 2 will not come out soon it will take years and the revisions will not improve on specs but more on optimization. So if they stick with what they've said, SD will lag behind just like Half Life 3 😂
@KarlRock
Жыл бұрын
I like it. The battery life is the only issue with these handhelds. I’m so used to my Switch and its good battery life. But I might go for this ROG Ally.
@Smoje79
Жыл бұрын
@@z_MVP_Z Nothing better than that and 8'' screen 60Hz (not that stupid thing of 120Hz) with 65Wh battery (and fast charging) for $799 (32GB/512GB)
@srinivasprasad837
Жыл бұрын
Namaste Gee..
@douglassmith9445
Жыл бұрын
Battery life is the exact reason these devices have not hit their potential and the most frustrating aspect to me not purchasing one. Luckily the obesity of the steam deck is fixed with this handheld without costing a fortune.
@JasonwithaJay
Жыл бұрын
Same. I'm going to rush to buy a handheld PC as soon as they can give me a top-end gaming experience with 6 hours of battery life.
@crestofhonor2349
Жыл бұрын
It's actually not all that different from a first revision switch when playing in silent mode
@GamezFreakTV
Жыл бұрын
I have a Steam Deck & it's nice to see other companies pushing competition.
@cvig1075
Жыл бұрын
exctly, the steam deck 2 will be exceptional
@GamezFreakTV
Жыл бұрын
@@cvig1075 True, I might be getting an ROG Ally. Depending on how available it’ll be and when it gets to everyday users and not just KZitemrs.
@catchwreck928
Жыл бұрын
cope harder brah
@Emuland69
Жыл бұрын
@@catchwreck928 oh stop. The Ally and Deck can exist together. Competition is good.
@realitycheck2669
Жыл бұрын
@@catchwreck928 Cope why? I'd rather have my Steamdeck than this. It looks great and all but the Steamdeck will get way more support, community support and has the essential trackpads.
@kylerclarke2689
Жыл бұрын
60fps in so many games on a handheld is just insane. What a time to be alive
@vsnrygaming8954
Жыл бұрын
Ive been saying this alot lately. I started gaming in the 8bit era. The leaps in gaming visuals have gotten smaller over the past 10 yrs. Its nuts that kids are growing up in a world where 60fps handhelds is standard. Blowing dust out of cartridges and 60 sec+ loading screens were standard in my childood 🥲. What a time to be alive
@kylerclarke2689
Жыл бұрын
@@vsnrygaming8954 the move BACK to 60fps has been encouraging to behold!
@vsnrygaming8954
Жыл бұрын
@@kylerclarke2689 i remember fantasizing about the SEGA Nomad 😅
@kylerclarke2689
Жыл бұрын
@@vsnrygaming8954 I'm a little younger than that. Gameboy SP coming with a BACKLIGHT in the screen blew my mind 😂
@vsnrygaming8954
Жыл бұрын
@@kylerclarke2689 oooooooooooh i remember when that was innovative 😅. We sound like old geezers 😭
@LegionIscariot
Жыл бұрын
The Steam Deck and ROG Ally are what the market needs. Powerful but affordable. Keep that kind of competition coming.
@DaleonM4
Жыл бұрын
We need more battery tho or efficient cpus
@dorf7219
Жыл бұрын
@@DaleonM4 i think what we really need is less demanding games, these pc ports lately have been so power hungry, even the ones that really shouldnt
@火災のアイスクリーム
Жыл бұрын
@@dorf7219 Jedi Survivor lol
@REXae86
Жыл бұрын
bro really said "affordable" in the same sentence as ROG LMAO
@Kuriketto
Жыл бұрын
@@火災のアイスクリーム Jedi Survivor on the Steam Deck is awesome for battery life. It was so broken on release that it was unplayable, ergo no game, no drain.
@azraeihalim
Жыл бұрын
10W mode 2x slower then Steam Deck. I guess Steam Deck still winner for On The Go use without charger
@Cheerfulnag
Жыл бұрын
Basically it's steamdeck with worse controls, worse OS and interface, worse price, worse performance on low power and +- same performance on 15w, considering that here native res is FHD, not HD => more performance needed for the same FPS. So... It's a gaming laptop? Thing that you'd better have connected all the time to use properly. Also no one ever speaks about repairability, upgradability and etc. It's important stuff.
@Cheerfulnag
Жыл бұрын
Also no EmuDeck for emulation
@timnowak8573
Жыл бұрын
@@Cheerfulnag Also, no one mentions Asus and their recent problems as a brand. For those unfamiliar with the subject, I recommend watching the JayzTwoCents video night,, I'm sorry ASUS... but you're fired ''. And Gamers Nexus,, Scumbag ASUS: Overvolting CPUs & Screwing the Customer''.
@ramonandrajo6348
Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@seppeseppe-jq7nr
Жыл бұрын
in germany extreme 799 euro ... like the produkt price and name .... to expensive
@ThePhawx
Жыл бұрын
Ahhh yea!
@therealforge
Жыл бұрын
I am so glad Steam Deck came and created this market. There really weren't a lot of folks chasing handheld performance x86 before. Now there are multiple parties. I'd love to get an Ally and put SteamOS on it, or even just a nice Arch install and Steam as the default session.
@psvitaoled197
Жыл бұрын
Remember ally runs at a higher tdp, for lower end emulation the deck is a lot better
@stevemuzak8526
Жыл бұрын
They didn't create this market.
@kiniiri1205
Жыл бұрын
Nintendo was first
@stevemuzak8526
Жыл бұрын
@@kiniiri1205 Not really. This is handheld PC gaming device
@pieceofschmidtgamer
Жыл бұрын
@@stevemuzak8526 That's where I'd have to disagree with you. Making and releasing a product for sale is not the same as creating a market. Companies like AYN or GPD really only sell a few thousand units and in most markets, especially in the tech space, a few thousand sold units is basically a rounding error and essentially irrelevant. The only people who cared were the ultra enthusiasts. A few thousand nerds does not a market make. The Steam Deck brought the Handheld PC to mainstream attention and sold hundreds of thousands potentially even over a million units. The Steam Deck literally has other companies bending over backward creating accessories for it because there's tons of money to be made. That's what a market looks like.
@Kanye2O24
Жыл бұрын
Just finished mr whose the boss's dogshit video on this. Time for an actual banger video from someone who cares. I watch almost all your videos even though i dont care about retro gaming. Already thinking of selling my deck and getting this for better ps3/switch emulation.
@osi9567
Жыл бұрын
Careful with Asus, their quality has taken a nose dive lately. Information readily available from Gamers Nexus.
@marshallmcluhan33
Жыл бұрын
After that GamersNexus exposé on Asus's business practices this is a pass. Microsoft can subsidize these proxy war devices all they want it won't stop the open ecosystem.
@chadbizeau5997
Жыл бұрын
Once you learn they all have shitty business practices, it gets easier. Asus, MSI, ASRock, Microsoft, Sony, Nintendo... It doesn't matter, they have all been caught at one point or another doing shady shit.
@marshallmcluhan33
Жыл бұрын
@@chadbizeau5997 Valve has been pretty good but support is an issue for sure.
@retro_ed746
Жыл бұрын
Holy shit and crap. It has been advertised as US prize without "EU TAX". It costs 799 € in EU. I knew it was too good to be TRUE/CHEAP Steam Deck 377 € with TAX in EU (Steam Sale)
@Spongegoose
Жыл бұрын
I audibly had a sigh of relief. I wasn't getting the info I needed from the other vids. Then, I saw your video show up on my feed.
@eros2144
Жыл бұрын
Me too. I just pre ordered 2 of Allys and so far everyones been shitting on it 😩
@FawadBilgrami
Жыл бұрын
It also depends on the community. Steamdeck has a great community and is backed by Steam, who's business is based on gaming. I really hope this device is not left alone by the company or gets revised every year.
@AntonioCunningham
Жыл бұрын
True. Constant Revisions is what killed Sega yet there's so many people asking Valve to do the same. I hope they take their time with the next Steam deck. The current one has a lot of life left in the tank.
@cr4zy4christ
Жыл бұрын
I have a question is the steam deck windows or is it a proprietary steam platform and if it's a steam platform does that mean you can't install Windows programs thank you?
@PixelShade
Жыл бұрын
Awesome review Russ! This confirms my worry about the Z1 Extreme. Although it is very powerful, it seems like you will have pretty bad battery life at those high TDPs, meanwhile it doesn't scale down well to low TDPs. If I'm playing GBA games on the Steam Deck. I reach 8.5hours of playtime (similar to 2D games like Sonic Mania, Huntdown etc) If I play Paper Mario on the Gamecube I get ~6 hours compared to 3hours on the ROG Ally. So for me personally I just like the balanced power profile of the Steam Deck. Better specs on paper doesn't necessarily make a good device. The ROG Ally probably has its target audience, but that audience definitely ain't me. :) I also bought the 400$ Steam Deck as a "companion device". I wouldn't want to spend more on such a device.
@SkaMacanan
Жыл бұрын
It's the 120hz screen probably.
@thegameksk
Жыл бұрын
@@SkaMacanan can you keep it at 60?
@mechanicalmonk2020
Жыл бұрын
@@SkaMacanan It's not. It's CPU draw. At equivalent TDP the Ally actually gets better battery than the deck.
@Xfade81
Жыл бұрын
@@thegameksk sure, he does mention this in the video.
@oladipupodurotimi4754
Жыл бұрын
@@mechanicalmonk2020 Nope it doesn't. The deck clearly beats it at lower TDP just like every other competitors out there. It's crazy the kind of optimization Valve did with that thing.
@saddy-yd9fe
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, what I expected happened. Performance is not way better compared to steam deck, battery life is bad, no touch sensors, so some games can't be played on this thing. And there are 2 reasons why this happened - lpddr5 and windows. The first is actually the biggest problem. Lpddr5 can't provide enough bandwidth and because of that GPU can't utilize all resources and consumes way more power than it should (I believe this can be partially fixed by lowering clocks on CPU and GPU). Windows is just not optimized for handhelds and can't be properly used for gaming. And I believe we will see a huge bump of performance when someone runs steamOS on this device, cause steamOS has lots of optimization under the hood in order to have the best performance per watt. P.S I believe they also could have used lpddr5x, but for some reason they didn't. It may be connected to the price, cause this soc's support lpddr5x. Update: I checked specs of 7840u (actual z1 extreme chip) and I can see that memory has only 2 channels when steam deck has 4 channels. So this is the reason why this handheld doesn't perform as good as it could have.
@drizzydaniell6907
Жыл бұрын
I just want to play new world which one you recommend ? I’m thinking buying the ally because of the 1080p I don’t know if a can stand the 800p from the steam
@saddy-yd9fe
Жыл бұрын
@@drizzydaniell6907 I don't have these consoles, so I can't really say what is better in real life. But I believe rog ally has better value and especially screen. I think you need to wait at least 1-2 weeks to see the full picture and only then decide what to buy.
@SCORP1ONF1RE
Жыл бұрын
No gyro and no trackpads kill it for me.
@Distory777
Жыл бұрын
The problem with ROG Ally is that they took the biggest minus of the Steam Deck and multiplied it by four, getting a very, very, very HUGE minus. I'm talking about battery life. The one who came up with the concept of this console did not come up with how to make a competitive product, but came up with an excellent advertisement that is very quickly read - "2 times more resolution and 2 times more hertz!". As a result, you get 4 times less battery life. AAA-games in turbo mode in 1080p literally work for 45 minutes. You can say: "Put 720p and rejoice." But 720p on a 1080p screen looks much worse than native 720p.
@AhmadCycro
Жыл бұрын
I guess it's just very hard to put a big battery in these handhelds without making them impossibly chunky and heavy.
@lennyngrado6365
Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@Random_4U
Жыл бұрын
Using a Powerbank isnt that bad imo
@redclaw72666
Жыл бұрын
Battery life is fine lol don't be surprised when Nintendo and valve do the same for their next gen handhelds and you people will complain like children lol bunch of crybabies go buy a power bank and play the dam game 🤡
@irvinclemente2368
Жыл бұрын
@@AhmadCycro It's not about putting a bigger battery but turning down the screen resolution to native 720p and making a very lightweight OS like what steam deck has. putting 1080p is not a good decision in the long run.
@nguyennam1945
Жыл бұрын
Seperate D Pad, Hall sensor Joystick , remove the RGB and the device is perfect.
@VicV91
Жыл бұрын
Is there gyro? Steamdeck still works better due to trackpad, additional buttons and gyro (FPS), it seems harder to play RTS or MMO games on the Ally
@RetroGameCorps
Жыл бұрын
Yes it has gyro. I agree that there are more games you can play on the Deck thanks to the trackpads!
@blasphemous24
Жыл бұрын
@@RetroGameCorps not sure if it's best buys mistake, but on their page, they have the Z1 regular listing for 512Gb storage
@Grimsgiver
Жыл бұрын
It's hilarious. All the KZitemrs who have gotten their hands on these are really selling them hard. It's no competition for the Steam deck. Valve is the only winners here. They set the bar for these devices and set a fire for everyone to compete. Meanwhile valve is one of the biggest game sellers for these devices. So they make even more money even if you don't by their device. SMART!
@Chummy8
Жыл бұрын
Sure looks like a Steam Deck competitor. However, I have no regrets about buying my Deck. I love that thing.
@zZiL341yRj736
Жыл бұрын
Something someone who have a bit of regrets would say.
@mechanicalmonk2020
Жыл бұрын
@@zZiL341yRj736 Consider being more happy about something you're about to buy (I'm assuming), and less happy about if others are unhappy.
@cheater00
Жыл бұрын
here's what you'd be giving up: no trackpads, less back paddles, no hall joysticks available, no parts replacement program (think about the battery and the sticks!), no steam os, no joystick touch
@Xfade81
Жыл бұрын
@@cheater00 you can just run steam anyway. And there will be spa reparts. The reason they chose ifixit is because it's the easiest method for a starting hardware company. Asus can just send spares to any of their partners to sell.
@filipemiguel268
Жыл бұрын
@@zZiL341yRj736 lol why????
@EM_vi_ix
Жыл бұрын
You could also get the base model steam deck and a 512 GB micro SD card for about $450. $250 cheaper.
@DeterminedTorres
Жыл бұрын
Or, if you’re the type of person that enjoys tinkering with things, then get a 2230 512GB SSD and combine the 512GB SSD to make it 1 TB in total.
@SynGamer
Жыл бұрын
Really excited to see what the handheld market looks like in 1-2 years.
@SynGamer
Жыл бұрын
@@catch82 Love my Steam Deck, and this Ally looks great. But I can definitely get plenty of gaming out of my SD for the next year or two until something generationally better (than the SD) comes out.
@youdonegoofed
Жыл бұрын
@@catch82 Is it worth getting a Steam Deck at this point? I was thinking about getting the $649 model solely for its etched glass screen (I loathe shiny/reflective displays) but I feel like I'd be scamming myself.
@kezins
Жыл бұрын
I think I'm holding off on this one. I'd love a more powerful Steam Deck but think no trackpads and worse battery life would annoy me. Great sign of things to come in the future with prices being better than expected.
@Vault_Phil
Жыл бұрын
I'd understand this trackpad argument if the Steam Deck was the only device you had, but who's choosing to play these M&KB games on a Deck over a desktop with actual physical peripherals? 🤔
@SCORP1ONF1RE
Жыл бұрын
Yep. no track pads and no gyro is no bueno for me
@AyaWetts
Жыл бұрын
@@Vault_Phil I use Keyboard and a thumb trackball vs a normal mouse... the Steam Deck is almost exactly the same... its nice to be able to play them just as good on my Steam Deck with trackpads. I do not ever play with any other controller any more on any system/console anything.. I cannot stand using joysticks for most games.
@MegaChad-lh8uz
Жыл бұрын
@@SCORP1ONF1RE Ally does in fact have Gyro. Mentioned in the specs at the start.
@MrSujano
Жыл бұрын
Love the thorough review. Surprised that the battery lasted as long as it did lol. Can't wait to see your direct comparison vs the Steam Deck
@adpbobcat
Жыл бұрын
Don't tempt fate
@RetroGameCorps
Жыл бұрын
Tha is for watching! Did you know that ROG stands for “subscribe to Mr Sujano?” It’s in their press notes and everything.
@r.4kram
Жыл бұрын
Regarding the Asus Rog Ally, I'm really excited about its potential. However, I think I'm going to hold off on purchasing it for now and wait for further revisions to the hardware and software. As an early adopter, I've learned that companies often make improvements based on user feedback. Take the example of the improved (Huaying)fan in later orders of the Steam Deck. So, I believe it's wise to give Asus some time to refine their product before jumping in. Can't wait to see what they come up with in the future.
@bertholdvongrimm7782
Жыл бұрын
As far as I remember, some early Steam Deck Units also came with the Huaying Fan, but they had supply issues and had to switch/use Delta fans to keep the Production running. The Delta Fans are also the "cause" of the "updated Fan Control" Setting within the Deck
@TerrannotOP
Жыл бұрын
I sold my deck for 50 dollars less than msrp. For $100 more ($699), I pre-ordered this. $100 dollars for 1080P/120hz and ~20 fps more is next gen category. For me, the deck was ergo; this looks ergo for me. Could care less about battery life, 2 hrs on always turbo is all I need.
@jackeyniraula
Жыл бұрын
Yep, never buy 1st gen gadgets, there are always some issues or something lacking in them.
@40Sec
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I ended up with a Steam Deck from the initial batch, and it was a wreck. The fan made headphones a necessity when playing anything moderately demanding. There were also regular crashes and freezes that I spend months trying to fix through tweaking and software updates before finding others with the same issues and realizing it was an issue with some of the initial units. After an RMA, my second deck has been a dream aside from the garbage screen (I really wish I could've paid an extra couple hundred to get something with 100% sRGB coverage). I really, really want to have a device that will let me play gamepass games and give me a chance to play some of those titles that SteamOS just doesn't support. It's great to see the ROG Ally making some great strides in that direction, but I'll likely reevaluate the handheld scene in a year and choose something then.
@FrakBeats
Жыл бұрын
@@TerrannotOPcouldn’t care less *
@chchris25
Жыл бұрын
Windows is actually a selling point for me. When docked, I find myself using the Steam Deck as a desktop PC a lot. But because it’s Linux, I’m limited to the apps I want to use.
@cooppp
Жыл бұрын
Seems like a very marginal upgrade to the Deck. I think I'll wait until next year for the Ally 2 before upgrading
@mechanicalmonk2020
Жыл бұрын
I hear in 4 years there will be an Ally 7, definitely should wait for that one.
@gangwu4541
Жыл бұрын
You can wait forever.
@leandroverse
Жыл бұрын
I thought it would be so much more powerful. Not worth the upgrade at all. It was clear to me when you had it downscaled to 720p and it even had to use 20W TDP.
@abdullahabid218
Жыл бұрын
Deck is still a better device for the price, minus the awful screen.
@GunsnRoses1972
Жыл бұрын
Id buy the Ally if i didnt have the SteamDeck. Although with how much of a Shit show Asus are in at the moment (see Gamers nexus) i wouldnt be confident this would last
@chrislaustin
Жыл бұрын
This device looks amazing, and those other companies in this space better step up, or sit down, as those $800 and up devices are now dinosaurs. Not because of the tech, but because of the prices they are being offered at, and the poor after purchase services they offer(or lack there of). While I still plan to get a Deck over this device as it checks more boxes for me(don't like Windows & want the touch pads), this is a great alternative and depending on personal needs, can easily be picked over the Deck. So within just a few hours, I would expect all those Chinese devices to have just lost 95% of their market in this time. Valve and ASUS also have brand names to their credit and probably above average customer care, even if those Chinese companies some how get competitive on price, there is ZERO chance they get better at after market care. So there really is only two devices in this market now, and both are priced right, great time to be a consumer for high end handhelds.
@dinodavincil
Жыл бұрын
With this battery life is useless. How can you enjoy playing on a device that shuts down after 1 hour? This is ridicolous. The battery life last longs on lower res etc, but at this point just buy a 200$ device.
@RichardServello
Жыл бұрын
Than you for a REAL review. I appreciate that you also included the negatives! I ordered one. Figure if I don't really see a huge increase over the Steam Deck I can return it (advantage of being a Best Buy purchase)
@PantsaBear
Жыл бұрын
Yeah this being at Best Buy is pretty huge. People can like the Ayaneos or GPD devices, but if something is wrong with it (and by Reddit posts, that is very very possible) youre going to have to ship it to Hong Kong and its super informal on how that is processed. For $1000 devices, thats inexcusable I trust Valve much more of course, but I'm always going to prefer returning something in a store than having to send it in a box across the country and waiting weeks for a refund
@AverageJoe483
Жыл бұрын
Just did the same thing . Bought it , if I hate it I’ll stick with my SD .
@MarceloMedeirosb
Жыл бұрын
Still missing the key features that make the Steam deck work. Raw performance by itself isnt enough to make a device good. If that was the case, the weak switch wouldnt sell a single unit.
@Davemate
Жыл бұрын
It's an interesting device for sure. Nice video. In the UK, I could get the 64gb Steam deck, the official dock and then a 2tb ssd for the same price. I think I'd prefer the Steam Deck, especially with the Steam OS.
@Davemate
Жыл бұрын
All of that would be £628, so I could get a Micro SD card as well, and it looks like the high spec ROG Ally is £699 in the UK.
@crashdude7589
Жыл бұрын
I love my steam deck but this being able to get that extra performance is really nice
@sceerane8662
Жыл бұрын
Do remember the Deck has issues with the 64GB model. It's great value if you're willing to buy and install your own SSD, But without an upgrade the internal drive will likely fill up with compatibility data if you install enough games. That's not to say the Deck is bad, I bought and upgraded the base model myself. But unless you're willing to do that, I'd argue the only models you should be considering and comparing are the 256GB and up ones.
@SaimSelim
Жыл бұрын
@@sceerane8662 I have the 64gb model if you have cryoutilities installed there is almost no issue
@crashdude7589
Жыл бұрын
@@sceerane8662 that issues has been fixed by the community
@MatthewJohnCrittenden
Жыл бұрын
Good option for all in Australia where the Steam Deck hasn't been released. Valve have shot themselves in the foot here. I can't justify another handheld but I'm sure many will go for this. Nice review as ever.
@varshard0
Жыл бұрын
Don't think Steam lost anything over Ally. I believe Valve is selling Deck at lost and planned to get that back by selling games. So, having Asus selling device won't cost Valve money and they can gain from selling games anyway. It's a win win.
@devinrobertson5251
Жыл бұрын
Aya plus 7840u is just as powerful and mich smaller. It's so much better. Bigger battery too. This thing is meh
@timytimeerased
Жыл бұрын
Best review put there. Still disappointed about the battery which was my top problem with the Steam Deck. Also in Europe the Extreme is 799€ which is absurd
@jordy786
Жыл бұрын
Exactly, the price in Europe is way too high. Im not buying that over 650€
@NOVARIS
Жыл бұрын
Same in uk it’s £699 which is 800€
@jordy786
Жыл бұрын
@@NOVARIS Its 804€ in the UK, even more
@eddiprince
Жыл бұрын
Wait what?! 699$ are 650€. They increase the price by almost 200$ then..that’s crazy. Usually it’s Dollar price in Euro, so 699$ = 699€.
@MissMokate
Жыл бұрын
could it be that the usd price is before tax and the eu one with tax included? idk I just remember us has a weird thing of not including tax in their prices
@theflyinfoote
Жыл бұрын
I think the biggest thing this is missing that the steamdeck has is the touchpads for mouse heavy games like Civ. It just works so much better then trying to use the sticks and buttons.
@GameTimeWhy
Жыл бұрын
Yes. Trackpads and even the 4 back buttons. I use those all the time.
@MortonSeinfeld
Жыл бұрын
Especially considering this runs Windows out of the box. Navigating windows with analog sticks sounds like torture.
@noggy152
Жыл бұрын
Also missing is the lack of a suspend mode so you can't just turn it off and on when you want to pause and resume your game. On a handheld that is a deal breaker for me.
@jollyrancherchick
Жыл бұрын
@@MortonSeinfeld There's an entire touchscreen to navigate with. Asus has been making gaming tablets and laptops with touchscreens for awhile now and as someone who owns a Flow Z13, using touch to navigate has been great.
@MortonSeinfeld
Жыл бұрын
@@jollyrancherchick I've used Windows on a touch screen and it blows.
@vloqy
Жыл бұрын
Ill stick to my deck but i am glad that companies are making good hardware for competitive prices
@drizzydaniell6907
Жыл бұрын
I just want to play new world which one you recommend ? I’m thinking buying the ally because of the 1080p I don’t know if a can stand the 800p from the steam
@vloqy
Жыл бұрын
@@drizzydaniell6907 well firstly I'm no expert so don't take my advice and secondly I'm not familiar with new world but I play a lot of rdr2 and it looks fine to me, I am still in disbelief that handheld devices have come so far
@lennyngrado6365
Жыл бұрын
I look forward to the comparison with the Deck because I really cannot see how this is a better value than the Steam Deck when you had to drop down to 720 or 30fps to get more than 1 hour of battery, which you can already do in the Deck for $300 less. Obviously the 1080 screen must look way better, but $300 better? I don't know.
@bionic-beaver
Жыл бұрын
Actually is not that better than 720p, it's a small screen, and with AMD FSR things looks even more crisp
@SamsMangaReviews
Жыл бұрын
Really great review Russ, just placed my preorder! The battery was my biggest concern but seeing your in-depth comparisons between the profiles really helped with my decision. I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on the RSR upscaling at 720p, if the picture quality is comparable to normal 1080p and if it differs from your battery numbers at 720p!
@ninjason57
Жыл бұрын
Good question.
@SupremeBG810
Жыл бұрын
Do you know if you are able to play while it’s plugged into the charger? also can it be charging while being transmitted to a monitor? Thanks for any help
@sojourner4726
Жыл бұрын
699 is great for pc gamers. But for most people who like handhelds its the 399 for the steam deck is a steep ask. Its a good start to windows handled gaming though. But steam OS is still a really good platform with proven support for the firm factor. Glad the Ally turned out to be a quality device.
@aj_-pu1ny
Жыл бұрын
This review helped me make my final decision to preorder the Ally. Thanks all of the detailed info and the extensive testing. Definitely the best review on the Ally I’ve seen so far.
@Xariann
Жыл бұрын
"Hadoukenable and Shoryukenable". That's how you sell a game pad to me.
@ninjason57
Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing but not the steam deck killer I was expecting it to be. The battery life was the biggest concern most people have. I was expecting 2 hours on turbo mode and 4 hours on silent mode. It’s possible over time the community will be able to optimize windows or just run steam OS to get better battery life. The screen is much better at 1080 but what’s the point if you end up running games at 720p. I think I’m gonna be patient for other companies to use this opportunity to make better handhelds next year.
@gambaownsus
Жыл бұрын
Yep, same. Not in a hurry. They be beta-testing, I be buying when the tech matures
@youtubesuresuckscock
Жыл бұрын
the biggest thing about this product is the 120hz display and variable refresh support. it's a game changer for emulation. you actually need > 60hz to run every game in MAME properly because some games in MAME run over 60hz. And because very few if any emulated games exactly ran at exactly 60hz, you need a variable refresh display to run them without hitching. so basically, just the VRR support makes this handheld far better than any of the other options for emulation. everything else about this product is DULL
@DeterminedTorres
Жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts here! SteamOS + ROG Ally would be much better than Windows.
@kuma-bw1we
Жыл бұрын
Asus is basically, making very very small profit. I wouldn't be surprised if ROG ally is selling at cost + 5% margin. At this price point, its a steal. The other company won't be able to compete at all. Sad, but true. ROG ally is just to cheap for the amount of hardware inside.
@brandonhaas5947
Жыл бұрын
I think people are buying into hype. It will be great when it first comes out, and then it will suck after a while. I dont think any company is as dedicated as Valve is at optimizing their devices, most of the competition ends up selling "better" models within a year or less. If ASUS has an update plan for this, then I will take back what I said. But I will agree with most, its good to finally see proper competition for the Steam Deck
@supermegadino1
Жыл бұрын
you should mention the difficulty in buying and replacing broken parts and it should be a factor in comparing it to the deck
@roninreef90
Жыл бұрын
Idk man if we going off the press conference its so durable you might not ever need to replace anything unless you’re really irresponsible lol! Plus I’ll just get a geek squad membership with best buy if im that concerned, Im a steam deck fanboy but man this handheld a true competitor!
@mwaithephoto
Жыл бұрын
Thank god you addressed things that other previews refused to answer or address. Because lord knows every big KZitem tech side previews made this out to be the perfect device. I commend you on addressing and this awesome in dept review
@shahtayyib
Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile mrwhosetheboss straight up giving false information lol
@mehmetsinanaydn5982
Жыл бұрын
@@shahtayyib i have nothing against the guy personally but his videos are so generic it hurts
@Dx-so7jm
Жыл бұрын
Linus was very critical , surprisingly good overview
@shahtayyib
Жыл бұрын
@@mehmetsinanaydn5982 not just that, he constantly shows bias and that he doesn't fully understand all a products specifications before talking about them No knowledge depth whatsoever
@shahtayyib
Жыл бұрын
@@Dx-so7jm agreed
@Handheld_TECH
Жыл бұрын
Steam Deck 512GB Comparison: Price difference US: +50$ ✅ Price difference EU: +120€🤯 (130$) Of course the price-performance ratio is still good but €799 is €799.
@AlphaSteam2
Жыл бұрын
If it takes 30 minutes to charge to 50%, it will not take another 30 minutes to charge the rest. It will take significantly more. The last 50% of any battery takes longer to charge than the first 50% because batteries work like that.
@lemonscampi
Жыл бұрын
Thats why he said about 1:30 for a full charge and not 1 hour.........................................
@AlphaSteam2
Жыл бұрын
@@lemonscampi He said, "about an hour, hour and a half" and just wanted to clarify to anyone that didn't know in the comments that it will take more than they might think. So the expectations are closer to reality. ..................................................... you seem to like periods, have some more ...............................................
@allhandsonsteamdeck1440
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 $699 for horible battery life no trackpads NO GURO?! WTH??😮😮😮 THIS THING IS OVERPRICED NOONE IS GONNA SPEND THIS KIND OF MONEY ON A BASIC HANDHELD 😅😅😅 AT THAT PRICE YOU MAY AS WELL BUY A LAPTOP AT LEAST IT HAS A TRACKPAD 😂😂😂😂
@AJL713
Жыл бұрын
This with GamePass seems like a dream setup 👍
@tjken33
Жыл бұрын
My thoughts as well.
@moomah5929
Жыл бұрын
Btw, hopefully this thing won't explode like CPUs on ASUS mainboards... Seems you now have the choice between small Chinese companies with possibly no warranty or ASUS with shitty warranty. They released a beta BIOS to fix the problem but it didn't and to flash it, you have to agree that this will void your warranty! o_O Btw, one of the problems is, that ASUS is running the new X3D CPUs out of spec, with a far to high voltage... Watch Gamers Nexus about this whole deal.
@rodskikun
Жыл бұрын
Hats off to ASUS for trusting you with the first review unit. Well done with the emulation tests.
@Lady_Moonsong
Жыл бұрын
ETA and others have one too
@afistfulofpimples1745
Жыл бұрын
He wasn't the first, don't spread false info
@timnowak8573
Жыл бұрын
Steam Deck has no competition for several facts. None of the available devices have a trackpad. God lock for people trying to play games that require a mouse. Another huge disadvantage is the installed operating system in the form of Windows. I don't need to explain that Microsoft has been introducing unwanted changes lately. The system is spying more, and more. It's full of telemetry, and the last one is more and more ads. In addition, no one mentions that more and more situations in which Windows updates corrupt the computer's bios during updates. Most people prefer to keep their mouths full of water on this topic and not mention the fact. And most importantly, no one mentions Asus anti-consumer shit with the motherboard, AMD CPU burnout situation. I recommend watching the JayzTwoCents video night,, I'm sorry ASUS... but you're fired ''. And Gamers Nexus,, Scumbag ASUS: Overvolting CPUs & Screwing the Customer''. Most channels avoid the subject by doing free advertising. And not talking about Asus serious problems with the warranty, and their hadware damage. Most prefer only to jump on the train hype regardless of what's really going on with the Asus brand lately. And also for most people hype counts because a new device with better parameters has come out lol. Similar situation with iPhones.
@MarquezDaniel
Жыл бұрын
Nice to see you included Virtua Tennis World Tour in the video. I put in a ton of hours into that game when I had my PSP. I actually lost the game and then had to rebuy it at Circuit City lol those were the good ol' days.
@don5139
Жыл бұрын
Steam Deck owner here. The ROG Ally specs are impressive but the battery life is ass. 1 hour max on 25W for high demanding games and less than 2 hours (1h40m-45m) for average demanding games. Give or take 2h30m for standard emulation usage. That's a real bummer though. The hardware specs are there and noticeably improving year over year but unfortunately the battery tech is still lackluster for high demanding multi-hour usage on 1 charge. Would have paid 200 or 300 bucks above the current price for a doublesized battery.
@modestyblaise4167
Жыл бұрын
I honestly feel that the Steam Deck got many of the basic things right at a fabulous price with great support. With the buggy software mentioned on the Asus, as well as atrocious battery life, I’m staying well clear. I can’t bring myself to use Windows either. SteamOS, drop the 120Hz panel and replace it with a 60Hz OLED (which would help battery life) and it’d be a winner. I’d still have no confidence in Asus support and don’t think I ever will.
@DeterminedTorres
Жыл бұрын
In light of them screwing over their customers with the motherboard fiasco, I agree with the last part of your comment.
@Who-vt9oh
Жыл бұрын
$700 seems like a really great price for everything you get, but it's still more than I would want to spend. I bought the 64 GB Steam Deck on sale for $380, then I put a 512 GB SSD in it and a new fan. I'm less than $500 all in and it's perfect for me. I'm sure the additional $200 is worth it for some, given the better performance, but not for me. I also prefer Steam OS to Windows because I'm a Linux guy anyway.
@ImperiusRex74
Жыл бұрын
Trackpads, support and community is why I'll stick with the Steam Deck. It's tempting but I'd rather have something with official updates as well as performance tweaks/plugins from the community. The performance is good enough for the games I play on the go. I use my desktop for triple A titles anyways. But if it's a one and done, the ROG Ally would be more appealing to me. Great price for what you're getting.
@oladipupodurotimi4754
Жыл бұрын
Same here. This does look nice though and even gets me more excited on what valve will do with Steam deck 2.
@MilfxHunter782
Жыл бұрын
@@oladipupodurotimi4754there won’t be steam deck 2 for another 5-8 years . They sold steam deck at loss
@kuma-bw1we
Жыл бұрын
Asus is basically, making very very small profit. I wouldn't be surprised if ROG ally is selling at cost + 5% margin. At this price point, its a steal. Thank you Asus for helping gamers all around the world.
@chrislaustin
Жыл бұрын
When they announced the 120hz, I wondered how good it could be on such a small screen, and you have confirmed my fears. I figured it was more a selling point, than anything I could ever find use for, even though I knew only lesser games could use the feature anyways. Many complained of the Decks screen resolution before release, but those in the know knew on the 7" screen, it's maximum settings would be just fine. The Ally probably could have saved cost on the higher refresh here and put it someplace else, but I still figure the 120hz will be a WOW for those interested, even though in practical use it may not even be a factor.
@MaxDrougge
Жыл бұрын
The resolution on Steam deck is no where near okay. It is really bad. Om par of first gen Nintendo Switch.. Biggest reason I did not buy it. Games just looked quite bad overall.
@irvinclemente2368
Жыл бұрын
@@MaxDrougge no it's not bad. stop deluding yourself. A 7" screen with 1200x800 resolution is 206 PPI. compared to a 27" 2560x1440 which has 108 PPI (half of steam deck ppi) , it'll be the same image quality if we consider the viewing distance of a desktop and a handheld.
@MaxDrougge
Жыл бұрын
@@irvinclemente2368 Oh no. It's far from the same. It was very notable poor resolution on the Deck. Very very big difference from for example my phone which has a similar PPI as the Ally. At least I wouldn't buy the Deck due to the poor screen.
@irvinclemente2368
Жыл бұрын
@@MaxDrougge as I said the resolution isn't bad for steam deck because of the PPI. I don't care at all about your anecdotal evidence because the numbers don't lie.
@MaxDrougge
Жыл бұрын
@@irvinclemente2368 Exactly. Numbers don't lie. 720p is poor resolution and it shows on the Deck. I assume you own a deck and want to live in denial?
@spayder26
Жыл бұрын
It is laughable nobody comments how terrible the shooter experience is when aiming with joystick vs aiming with a touchpad, plus the general RTS mouse experience. I assume console-primary games are just so used to the jank they don't care anymore, but this is a PC.
@thepunlive
Жыл бұрын
Devices like this that have issues with diagonals need to create a 4 way 8 way mode option in the menu, would help a lot with classic contra and pac-man style games.
@itsJets
Жыл бұрын
The one thing that cannot be put on a spec sheet but carries immense value is customer support and service. Valve has been incredibly transparent about taking apart your deck for replacement parts and has also made them easy to access. I've also had fantastic interactions with Valve customer support and I can't say the same thing about Asus. This is one of my most important things when you're considering buying a 500$ handheld with the controller essentially "built in". Competition is always good but I'm sticking with my Steamdeck for that reason alone.
@Leynad778
Жыл бұрын
Very recently had to deal with the Valve support to refund the base station that wasn't working well with my 8KX. A common problem because of EMI I've wrote, but the guy requested I do some tests and send him logs even it was my legal right to send it back without any reason. So I wrote I don't do that and never heard of him again. I had to open a 2nd ticket to get my DHL label. So not impressed by this support at all.
@alenkiu9886
Жыл бұрын
Just a quick question: Does Ally support power pass through? I would love to be playing on an external power outlet on TURBO MODE without draining the battery nor charging the battery at the same time. Is there any settings or way to stop battery charging and use only external power adapter?
@BareBandit
Жыл бұрын
It's impossible that you didn't tell a difference between 60 and 120Hz. It's such night and day on any device
@crashdude7589
Жыл бұрын
Probably not on a 2d platformer
@leonardodanielgonzalezcast8252
Жыл бұрын
This guy is just blind.
@PantsaBear
Жыл бұрын
I can see it in this video alone lol. Although the examples he included were Cuphead and other pixel platformers, games that dont use fluid animations, so its harder to tell. But yeah, 120Hz is huge especially at 1080p on a screen this small and this vibrant
@gldoorii
Жыл бұрын
I've been burned by ASUS and it's absolutely horrendous quality control with their gaming laptops that I can't imagine paying full price for this. Thankfully since it's being sold at Best Buy etc it'll go on sale eventually.
@zenstoodi
Жыл бұрын
This was the review I was waiting for. As always honest with big focus on detail. I hate windows so this is not device for me, but it’s great for competition;) I hope Valve is taking notes ;)
@studentzero9576
Жыл бұрын
I don't feel like valve will be in any rush to spit out an updated Deck. I feel the Deck for most people is a great way to play through their steam backlogs and emulation in bed. I would rather see support for the device from Valve and the community for the next few years rather than doing the yearly refresh thing cell companies do.
@slickrounder6045
Жыл бұрын
You do realize that uh, you don't need to run Windows on this if you don't want to right??
@pranze3484
Жыл бұрын
Yes valve should take notes on how their true custom apu is so much better than rebranded laptop apus, that 1080p 120hz is a gimmick, that no gyro sucks and that true immediate sleep mode is so great. But also that a better screen when it comes to colours, contrast and backlight would be nice.
@thacoolest13
Жыл бұрын
Ended up canceling my preorder. Already have the steam deck and it just doesn't seem worth it. Especially considering my pc is already plenty capable of running the more demanding titles, so the question then becomes am I gonna replace my steam deck with this? Because I'm not carrying both around and the answer I think is no. Looks like a nice piece of tech though
@scotrick333
Жыл бұрын
Wow, that time worked out perfect! Almost 40 exactly. Glad to hear you're going to do a comparison video vs the Steam Deck. I'm very happy with mine, I just can't wait until Valve gives us the dual boot option. I don't want to wear out a good sd card with windows and I don't really want to do a work around either.
@lc1565
Жыл бұрын
Not surprised about the poor battery life given that it's a Windows device. I'm glad that it's not a piece of junk and at a good price, gives Valve some legit competition. The Steam Deck has made me love linux though.
@najati
Жыл бұрын
Best ROG Ally video up yet. Solid approach. Nicely done.
@R04D3X
Жыл бұрын
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh idk about this. like sure it seems great but in a steam deck world even comparing to that I still don't think it holds a candle. the screen is actually a downgrade when it comes to retro emulation because retro games scale much much better to the steam decks screen than a 1080p screen. and also no trackpads? the trackpads are incredibly useful for FPS games as you can use it as a mouse alongside motion controls. from what I'm seeing this plays retro games (worse screen) and PC games (no trackpads) worse than the steam deck and costs more. it's close but it's not good enough
@LockedPig
Жыл бұрын
Battery life *SUCKS*
@joshuareveles
Жыл бұрын
Ngl, the more videos I watch about this device proves my point that 1080p was pointless. A 720p 60-120hz OLED would have been the best option
@RR_85
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing the emulation stuff. Really why I want this device.
@jonathanellis6097
Жыл бұрын
I wouldnt trust asus. Poor support for repairs unlike Valve. Nonsense marketing that basically lies. Goodness knows if they will honour warrantys (have a look at gamers nexus for how shady Asus can be).
@nuckv7544
Жыл бұрын
Great review as always, Russ! Very impressed by the ROG Ally, if I didn't already have a steam deck then I think I'd be tempted to buy this instead. But it's not a big enough jump from the Steam Deck for me to want to upgrade, I always prefer to upgrade my electronics when the upgrade makes me go "wow this is so much better" but I can't blame anyone who doesn't have a steam deck or one of those 6800u devices if they choose to get this over any of those.
@MM.MischiefManaged
Жыл бұрын
So basically it cant beat the SD unless you downgrade to 720p or are always plugged in. So much for being double the performance. I mean I guess its true, but not a native res which sucks because who wants to be upscaling…
@FarrinD12
Жыл бұрын
Wooo! I didn’t want to watch any other review until yours came out!
@rigomortiz
Жыл бұрын
I have 2 asus rog laptops (2019 and 2021) and command center is always buggy. Its easily the worst part of any asus product. Well until this week lol
@wordsmith451
Жыл бұрын
I'm truly impressed. This quality for this price is amazing. I hope this pushes the market forward significantly in terms of price/performance.
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